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Hello. I am dealing with an extremely fast battery drain issue. My battery can drain from a full charge in onlt seven or eight hours even in standby. I can have a full charcge, make or recieve no calls, and look agian in twi hours and have %70 percent or less. I have tried a new factory battery and it is the same. Now the battery life during use is the same. I can talk for an hour, ant the battery has only drained about ten or fifteen percent, about the same as if I am not talking. It is almost as if it is alway transmitting at full power. It does not matter if I close everything, turn off data, and even run a clean ram program. If I go to sleep at night with a full charge, it is dead in the morning.
specs,
Factory Rom, Factory radio. Touch pro disabled with some today screen plugins like a clock and a launcher.
please help.
Yes I am new, and yes I used search and read several threads about battery life. I did not find resolution.
Thanks, Drew
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I think you should flash a Rom.If may seem you have less battery at first but after it settles you will get a good week maybe.I normally get 5 days with alerts,Music etc.
Try this!
Try to play a music in TouchFLO 3D Music Tab or Windows Media Player, then press the power button (on the top of the device). The music should stop playing, if the music doesn't stop, there's something wrong with your Raphael.
no, the music stops like it should.
I had this issue once with custom ROM and hardreset solved it.
same here, i had this problem a couple of days ago, it is then that i realized that the Radio Version should be accompanied by it corresponding Rilphone. now i have a better battery performance
I have the exact problem, thing is though I have the default ROM. Should I flash it with a custom one for it to last longer? I went to the store where I bought it from and they recommended me to upgrade the soft or do a reset. Meh, I'll try everything, only for it to last me more than a day...
This sounds like a stupid idea, but what about throwing the device into "airplane" mode for the night? Maybe on a night that you're not going to expect calls. This can rule out the radio portion of the phone as the drainer and possibly point the fault domain towards a runaway application. Or - it could show that something is cranking on the data during suspend.
I've had some of the best battery life recently with 1.14.25.35. My initial runs with it were about the same as .05, but in Columbus Ohio my reception seems to be good enough that the radio backs down and I have >90% charge after 4 hours of standby/light phone use.
In Chicago a few weeks ago, my signal wasn't as good and the phone dropped capacity significantly faster.... so it's not all about the radio for me, but decent reception helps.
I'd love to hear how people are finding the battery life on the Captivate, and what their usage patterns are. I don't have many apps on the phone to begin with, but on the train to work I can easily knock out a third of the battery just listening to music. While using the phone for five or ten minutes, I'll sometimes see the battery dop 2-3 percent!
For tomorrow, I'm going to try using the stock launcher instead of LauncherPro, no widgets. I got rid of the Android Central app just in case it was fetching data in the background. But my hopes aren't terribly high, I'm afraid.
I have rooted the phone, but the battery life was bad before rooting. Once rooted, I tried some apps like JuiceDefender, and there seemed to be no change.
If I continue having these problems, I may unroot and bring the phone to an AT&T store to see what they say. I've heard it mentioned that Samsung is sending out new batteries that are better than some current ones, but I don't know if that's true.
I'd love to hear any suggestions. I want to use my new phone, not worry about it all day!
I too have been getting very poor results. I have talked on the phone for less than 3 minutes, went to maybe 15 different website pages, one 3:00 youtube video, 10 minutes of GBC emulation gaming, and regular texting, and I'm at 10% with 8 hours. I've probably only used the phone for 30 minutes total today.
Smartphones always drain battery, if you want a phone that can be heavily used for like 4 or more days on one charge cycle, get a feature phone....the samsung captivate has given me the best battery time overall, against all my past smartphones.
I don't think it makes sense, though, that it should run out halfway through the day like mine is. My former devices were a feature phone and an iPod Touch. The feature phone lasted a week or so, and the iPod Touch with heavy heavy use lasted three days at least. So even if I had both pulling from the same battery source, and with light usage, shouldn't it last at least a full day?
Weird, I had wireless on almost all day, with push mail and doing tons of market downloading and I was only down to about 50% by early afternoon.
Seems about the same as my two year old HTC Touch Pro to me.
My battery is running fine too, even after streaming music from my house with subsonic, testing out a couple videos, messing with the gps, push email a bunch of app downloading, and a live wallpaper and i was still at 33% by the time I got home, even seems to be getting better.
"On the train to work..."
There's a bit of your problem, methinks. The 3G radio is burning a lot of power trying to connect to towers inside a metal box that moves to a new tower on a regular basis. Unless you need to get calls on the train, put it in Airplane mode during your commute.
Have you actually let the battery die completely yet?
My first battery burn-down, (starting with the charge on the battery as it was unboxed) I was showing zero percent battery for almost two hours before it actually shut itself off, moderate usage with WiFi on.
The next charge-up burn-down, it was showing zero percent about fifteen minutes before the end.
And the charge-up burn-down after that, it showed 0% about twenty seconds before it died.
See where I'm going here? The software needs to be calibrated at zero and 100, and it can't do that if you don't let it reach zero a few times. Once you're sure the meter is accurate, then you can start making informed conclusions about battery life.
And like I've posted elsewhere, you've got 'Newshiny-itus', which is proven to suck extra life out of a smartphone battery. And it's hard forcing your new toy to die...for one thing, if it's dead, you can't play with it. Tough it out, kill it. At least twice.
Well if you want to find truly terrible battery life try the EVO.
I had one for a month and that thing really ate the battery fast. The capti is stellar in comparison.
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Well if you want to find truly terrible battery life try the EVO.
I had one for a month and that thing really ate the battery fast. The capti is stellar in comparison.
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Yea I had one for two weeks and it was horrid. I would lose 6% just in standby time in between waking up and getting out the door to work in the morning!
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I've had great results with the battery and I find it to be much better than my HD2. I watch quite a bit of youtube, text message a lot, and browse the web and the market on and off, not to mention all the time my wife plays solitaire, and I still have 30% battery at an uptime of 41:46. I don't use gps or live wallpapers, and I keep my display as low as possible, since it is still bright.
Bit better by the end of the day. 13 hours and 15 minutes
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The software needs to be calibrated at zero and 100, and it can't do that if you don't let it reach zero a few times. Once you're sure the meter is accurate, then you can start making informed conclusions about battery life.
And like I've posted elsewhere, you've got 'Newshiny-itus', which is proven to suck extra life out of a smartphone battery. And it's hard forcing your new toy to die...for one thing, if it's dead, you can't play with it. Tough it out, kill it. At least twice.
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Definitely agree with the last part. I've been doing my best to kill it, but I don't want it to be dead. Been noticing the inaccuracy of the meter quite a bit, especially when it's charging, but I'm sure it'll get better over time.
Thanks for the informative replies! It hadn't occurred to me that the battery meter might be uncalibrated - I've been charging once it reached 10% or so. I'll try letting it die fully today.
One thing that seems to have helped, too, is the brightness settings. Turning OFF the "power saving" auto adjust ing brightness option allows the brightness to stay low, and a brightness control widget lets me set it lower than stock controls allow. I've seen some definite improbement from this alone!
These are Li-ion batteries, DO NOT let them die completely before charging.
Ok, so...is there a safer way to make sure the battery gets calibrated? I'm reading in a lot of places that Android phones fairly often misreport battery info unless calibrated.
The lowest I can get on battery status is 60% after a full days use. Admittedly I'm not a power user but I had my phone unplugged for 16 hrs and still had 95% I'd like to know what you have to do to get such low battery levels , start your car
All I've done today is listen to music for an hour (used 25%) and texted/browsed the web for perhaps two hours (another 5/% down.)
I read that LIons can be occasiomally discharged, since they have undercurrent protection circuits. One guide for Android phones suggested leaving the phone on until it shuts itself down, turning it on again, and then letting it shut itself down again. Then, with the phone off, charge fully. The guide said once a month or do is safe and beneficial. How does it sound?
Battery is good today. Been sending a few texts, checked email, facebook, and surfed these forums a bit. I'm at 2 hours with 98% battery left.
i hope the battery doesnt suck, i plan on getting this phone soon and want good batt life!!!
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These are Li-ion batteries, DO NOT let them die completely before charging.
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I agree with you, however, the phone's hardware will NOT let the battery completely die.
So I wouldn't worry about that all to much.
Basically though, Li-ion batteries are 'memory' free so they can be recharged on a whim partially.
They also prefer partial charges vs deep charges.
There are questions about this that I don't have answers for such as: When the phone displays 0% or shuts off due to low battery, how LOW is the battery?
Obviously the phone battery can't be dead dead, but it is low enough for the hardware to take precautions.
Anyway Li-ions will at max last 500 charges.. If you want it more than that, You're going to have to buy a new battery anyway. =)
Is the battery life shorter than the life of a fly? I'm coming from a HD2, which I was constantly wanting to turn into a bomb and ship it back to HTC because of it's poor battery life, until I upgraded to CyanogenMod.
The other thread about the phone is filled with silly, useless blabbering about benchmarks, so if you have the phone, could you please spare us drudging through that thread and post your battery life results here?
+1 to T.S
If the Sensation can run more than 8 hours on Battery I'mma pre-order this beast on Handtec asap
Good initiative. Change the topic title to 'battery life' or something similar otherwise people interested won't think to look in this topic.
the phone only came out yesterday, it always takes a few charge/discharge cycles to get it conditioned properly, so any comparisons that are done after just one day aren't going to be very accurate. give people a chance!!
For who?
Don't expect any better battery life than present phones. It's dual core. I don't have it but I think it's predictable. You will get 1 or 2 days depends on how you use it. I'm saying that might be 2 days because for normal usage it will run only one core which is new chipset etc. so it will spend less power than 1 core phones when one core is running. It will spend more power when you play gamse etc. because of 2 cores.
As long as it's better than my Desire (AMOLED), I'm happy.
I've installed CM7 and undervolted it and when I run my usual set up (Podcasts/Music, Trillian (Battery Saving Mode), GTalk, Latitude activated) it can happen that it doesn't really reached the end of a typical work day. When I had certain widgets installed, it didn't really reach the end of the day.
I don't need it to last 2 days, but easily one full day with nearly heavy use would be somehow nice...
Had my phone for 3 hours, battery life is about 10 billion times better than my HD2 was. Been using it pretty constantly since, and my battery would have gone down by about 25-30% on my HD2 (mental!!) but battery has gone down by about 5-10% and I haven't even charged it yet. Very happy soo far! .
I unplugged my phone after it's first charge cycle 7h 38m ago. It's gone from 100% to 23%.
During that time, my phone has been used almost constantly, including benchmarking, taking screenshots, as well as the usual few phonecalls, facebook updates every hour and Twitter updates every hour. Plus, of course, all the mucking around that we all do when we get new phones!
sjgore, great news! I have a question about your signature, how could you possibly be holding both your phone and your baby at the same time in each hand?
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I unplugged my phone after it's first charge cycle 7h 38m ago. It's gone from 100% to 23%.
During that time, my phone has been used almost constantly, including benchmarking, taking screenshots, as well as the usual few phonecalls, facebook updates every hour and Twitter updates every hour. Plus, of course, all the mucking around that we all do when we get new phones!
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Thats is very promising, waiting for my Sensation! Have to wait a damn week though!
This thread is relevent to my interests...
A good reliable benchmark will be good only after everyone stops playing with their new phone for 23 hours out of the day!
Can't wait to get mine when it hits the US soon!
Also, battery conditioning isn't applicable to these kind of batteries. The first charge is as good as the 50th or the 100th. Of course, this is pending the lifetime of the battery. They do wear out!
I have been using my phone since 8am this morning, the battery is at 53%
My HD2 would have easily been dead by now!
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I have been using my phone since 8am this morning, the battery is at 53%
My HD2 would have easily been dead by now!
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thats promising
Could please more users comment regarding battery experience so far? Even though you might still hope for an improvement after several charges, I'd like to know how it has been for you guys for the first couple of days. Thanks
I charged mine about half 5 yesterday, been using it as normal and had WiFi turned on, and its just hit 25%.
A lot better than my Desire HD.
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Mine's been off charge since about 9:30, and today I've been recording some 1080p video clips, taken some photos, playing Angry Birds and general usage. It's currently at 65%. So I'm pretty happy all in all!
Ok people who say "I've been off the charger since XX:XX and I'm at XX%, my YYY phone would've been dead by now!" please stop... people use their phones every differently and moderate/heavy usage varies greatly among different people.
If possible just look at your battery graph and report how long it says it's been off the charger, and also press display to see the DISPLAY TIME ON. Also, if you've made a lot of calls, report the voice call time as well. Signal strength is another major factor.
With Gingerbread it's MUCH easier to see battery life performance because of that new graph. Signal strength, display on, awake, etc. are very important in determining how long the battery will last and also if your phone isn't getting as much juice as you think it should.
20 hours 5 mins off charge, 100% to 39%, display time 1 hour 26 mins. WiFi on all that time. Is that any use?
Edit: Forgot to say, my phone's on its third charge cycle now.
Thanks. Did you make many calls? 1.5 hours of screen on time seems like light usage for 20 hours off the charger. The battery life on this phone seems quite average... on par with other 1500mah phones I guess.
More data is always welcome =)
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20 hours 5 mins off charge, 100% to 39%, display time 1 hour 26 mins. WiFi on all that time. Is that any use?
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Background: I have had phone 11 months. I am very familiar with how the battery drain is while it is stock (WiFi ON all the time). battery lasted ~16h which is plenty for me.
Rooted phone, Battery Life on AR14 and IceColdSandwich (and others) was around 20h with WiFi on all the time and light use.
Recent Kernels (anything IceColdSandwich 3.0.0+ or AR 23+ (haven't tested between 14 and 23) cause a base of around 50mA of drain even when phone is locked. Battery life is ~8-10hours WITH NO USE. I have tried these ROMs without installing ANYTHING on them with the same results.
Current Widget does not identify an offending program from what I can tell.
WiFi off, the phone lasted 2d9hr of pretty light use.
I first started looking into WiFi when I forgot to turn off airdroid and unplugged the phone for 3 hours. I found AirDroid still running but could not connect to it via laptop or desktop until I tinkered with the phone a bit more and the WiFi connection cycled.
However during this time, the charge lost on the battery was a reasonable rate, and after the WiFi connection cycled it dropped like the usual rock.
What I've tried:
WiFix
WiFi polling interval increase
Cleaning/checking battery cover contacts
Changing battery covers
Battery Calibration (which is a myth from other reading I've done)
A couple of different programs like Juice Defender.
On the list to do:
Try a different Kernel
Root my friend's phone and trade him hardware (he says he never uses WiFi, so it won't be an issue for him)
/wrists
Thanks for all the suggestions and help so far. I understand that the problem is pretty obscure and seems rare.
on icecoldsandwich ive seen quite a few people show an improved battery draining using lordmods newer bfs kernel. maybe give that a try and report back?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450962
kernel: http://goo.gl/ZqBZl
btw, very good informative question. its heart warming usually we get 'my battery sucks yo, fix it!' haha
Here is some irony.
Exitz ICS AR25 has been on the phone for a couple of days and has lost essentially 10% per hour when not on the charger (been off work in my house) After the 4th day, I installed AirDroid and AngelCamera. I took it off the charger last night...
92% 6 hours later AND the phone has been awake(?) all night...
Seems I left AirDroid 'running' but couldn't connect to the phone through AirDroid until after the WiFi cycled...
I will see how the drain is today. I'll out of the house all day tomorrow (half a day in Denver), toggle off the wifi for a day at home, and then try your suggestion Darunion.
Here are a few screen shots (first two are old), and honestly, I don't know how much I trust the battery stats.
IceColdSandwich 2.0.0 pretty much shows that battery life I have been used to for a long time including before rooting. Not AMAZING, but not fail. (WTF Proximity Recaibrator 29% of Drain on a 16 hour day?) Also note this is about the same rate of drain I experienced with Existz AR14 last week. Light use and ~16-19 hours of battery life. Not amazing, but I can live with it.
IceColdSandwich 3.0.0 pretty much shows the battery life I have been getting with any ICS roms since.. well 3.0.0 was released. Oh and the voice call that is 37% of drain lasted less than 10 minutes.
Existz AR25 (someofthedrain.png) the steep drop was a 20 minute phone call...
And Finally Airdroidwtf.png is the same install three nights later (this morning) If I could get battery drain like THIS on a regular basis...
Anyway, I'll keep trying to isolate this down to the specific 'area' of the phone that is causing it....
Edit: and as for Darunion commenting about the information I've included... I'm a patient person, I don't want to be a drain on the community, and I have no issue trying to solve a ROM, APP, Radio, RIL, Or watever issue. I'm only posting because the issue isn't unique to a ROM but is unique to a time frame AND the issue is not solveable via Google or XDA search
Right now it is looking like the 'extra' drain on newer ROMs is directly related to the wireless being on*.
Right now the phone is at 1day 19 hours with 14% left and the wireless was only on for the first couple of hours this charge cycle.
I never thought there would be such a considerable difference between battery usage on any ROMs.
I'm going to continue looking around and trying to solve things, and I haven't quite made it to trying the Kernel, Darunion. It is on the list after I toggle WIFI on and off throughout a day.
*The rest of this post is just back-story I have ran the phone on stock for 11 months before rooting it and during that time, I got used to leaving the WIFI running all the time simply because the battery always lasted through my longer days and my-typical light-use. I'm near WIFI that my phone connects to about 80% of the time.
So after rooting, I had a little increase in battery life and I never changed this habbit, or more to the point, I was leaving WIFI on as to make it one less variable in drain while testing various ROMs and different build dates.
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Right now it is looking like the 'extra' drain on newer ROMs is directly related to the wireless being on*.
Right now the phone is at 1day 19 hours with 14% left and the wireless was only on for the first couple of hours this charge cycle.
I never thought there would be such a considerable difference between battery usage on any ROMs.
I'm going to continue looking around and trying to solve things, and I haven't quite made it to trying the Kernel, Darunion. It is on the list after I toggle WIFI on and off throughout a day.
*The rest of this post is just back-story I have ran the phone on stock for 11 months before rooting it and during that time, I got used to leaving the WIFI running all the time simply because the battery always lasted through my longer days and my-typical light-use. I'm near WIFI that my phone connects to about 80% of the time.
So after rooting, I had a little increase in battery life and I never changed this habbit, or more to the point, I was leaving WIFI on as to make it one less variable in drain while testing various ROMs and different build dates.
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I was on battery for around 13 hours yesterday with wifi on for at least 8 hours of that and plugged my phone in with 51% battery remaining.
ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
I was on battery for around 13 hours yesterday with wifi on for at least 8 hours of that and plugged my phone in with 51% battery remaining.
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Yeah, I know this isn't a typical issue for most everyone, and am not implying so.
Likely it will end up being something very specific to the two WIFI networks I am at for 80% of the time OR something else that is very specific to my circumstances.
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Yeah, I know this isn't a typical issue for most everyone, and am not implying so.
Likely it will end up being something very specific to the two WIFI networks I am at for 80% of the time OR something else that is very specific to my circumstances.
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Have you, by chance, removed and reinstalled your back covers? I know it's unlikely, but since they contain the antennae, maybe they've come a little loos, resulting in higher imepedence connections.
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Have you, by chance, removed and reinstalled your back covers? I know it's unlikely, but since they contain the antennae, maybe they've come a little loos, resulting in higher imepedence connections.
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I have not specifically toyed with the covers as part of trouble shooting. I will be sure that I look at them after my battery finishes charging on WIFI.
It does seem to be more a software difference, (I've casually be at this for the better part of 2 months) as I have seen expected performance when flashing back to a ROM I've used.
Thanks, I like being able to limit variables and this will be one I check before charging the phone again.
(What I'd really love to do is convince my brother or one of two friends who have the Inspire 4g to let me root their phones so I can trade them phones for a week and really isolate out hardware issues
fyi if you are still running icecoldsandwich. 6.2 just was released. Maybe give that a try?
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fyi if you are still running icecoldsandwich. 6.2 just was released. Maybe give that a try?
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Right now, I'd like to figure out WHY my WiFi is so bad on battery drain with later AOKP releases.
I'll try to rule out hardware issues (I'll look into antenna and MAYBE convince a friend to let me root their phone and trade them for a week... if not then covers at least.)
But likely this is something about newer releases and how my WIFI is setup. I don't live in a high-density area, so it's not because of too much wifi trafficz (I can barely see a 2nd wifi with any device and it's on the opposite end of the frequency choices.... by my settings)
Anyway, I am a very patient person, so I'll continue working on this slowly so that I can be thorough and find the real cause of the problem.
What I would wish is for someone to point me in the direction as to how WiFi MIGHT drain the battery so hard for later releases but not earlier. I'll be reading up more on logcat and how to read it in regards to wifi... but searching and reading is hard because 'wireless' and what not are very vague terms
Now at 1% (still) and 2d9h... is MORE than double my record on the first roms I tried after rooting OR my stock rom. and MORE than quadruple my record on any of the newer roms
I've swapped battery covers with a friend this past weekend, and the WiFi being on still drains the phone considerably (~8%/hr) when turned on. So if it's a hardware issue, it's not in the battery cover.
Wifi and blue tooth are very hard on the battery regardless. But 8% an hour seems pretty steep tho.
I would start by getting the current widget in Google market and put in on your home screen to monitor your Mili-volt ussage. If its running high like the 200+ constantly you have a lot of drain going on. When in sleep mode it should drop down to 0mv up to 8mv. If it stays high in the sleep mode you have apps waking your phone from sleeping. Which causes tremendous drain.
Next I'd try removing apps that have wifi permissions. To see if that drops your mv ussage.
Drop your notifications to less frequent times on your email and Facebook.
Remove any task managers or juice defender. They run constantly.
Google + is a massive battery drainer. Remove or limit notifications and sync as much as possible.
Also running wifi fix apk could also help. If you are knowledgeable enough you could also edit the build.prop to set the wife scan at a less frequent rate as well.
Last but not least get a toggle button widget for wifi and turn it off when not using.
I'd you follow these steps this will drasticly decrease your battery drain.
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Wifi and blue tooth are very hard on the battery regardless. But 8% an hour seems pretty steep tho.
I would start by getting the current widget in Google market and put in on your home screen to monitor your Mili-volt ussage. If its running high like the 200+ constantly you have a lot of drain going on. When in sleep mode it should drop down to 0mv up to 8mv. If it stays high in the sleep mode you have apps waking your phone from sleeping. Which causes tremendous drain.
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Thanks for taking the time for this response!
I started by running current widget for about a week and with a 3 different roms AR23(?), IceColdSandwich 2.0.0, IceColdSandwich 3.0.0.
I was stock for 11 months, and ICS2.0.0 was a little better than battery drain than stock. AR23 and ICS3.0.0 were terrible and pretty much ran a constant 50ma drain asleep or awake as a baseline.
I'd really like to figure out what the difference is with the older AOKP and the newer AOKP, but that may never happen.
Next I'd try removing apps that have wifi permissions. To see if that drops your mv ussage.
Drop your notifications to less frequent times on your email and Facebook.
Remove any task managers or juice defender. They run constantly.
Google + is a massive battery drainer. Remove or limit notifications and sync as much as possible.
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I've been testing with stock roms since a couple weeks before I posted this thread. This is because current widget didn't really show any specific program causing the issue, so I wanted to make sure that I didn't have some issue from my installed programs.
The most I've installed (out of necessity is AirDroid and AngelCamera) in the past few weeks. Both were installed when I ran without wifi on one charge for 2d9hrs.
(I don't have a google+ account, I don't have juice defender or any task managers aside from the stock rom)
Also running wifi fix apk could also help. If you are knowledgeable enough you could also edit the build.prop to set the wife scan at a less frequent rate as well.
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I'll do this and see if that helps things. Thank you
Last but not least get a toggle button widget for wifi and turn it off when not using.
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This is likely going to have to be my solution. Just run cell data all the time unless I am doing something specific like downloading files or uploading pictures.
OR
Maybe I can convince my friend to let me trade him phones (root his and nand backup and then restore all his stuff to my phone) and see if it is about the same drain. His phone was bought a couple months after mine AND from a different vendor, so it isn't going to be out of the same manufacturer's lot.
I'd you follow these steps this will drasticly decrease your battery drain.
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Thanks again. I'll definitely try the wifix along with the rest of your suggestions that apply
I'm in the same boat you are. I'm running ics aospX ar-26 and I can barely get mine to last from 8 til 4. Wifi is pretty prevelent around here and I leave it on most of time. I guess I could try turning it off til I need it. Anyway I'll be following this thread.
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You also might consider reading the threads on calibrating battery after flashing roms. I made the mistake of flashing a rom @ 40% battery. It jacked my stats all up. The new rom thought 40% battery was actually 100%. It had my stats all screwed up too. Except mine was Bluetooth. Showed running at 60% of battery ussage. So don't trust that system tool. Because the display is almost alway gonna be the biggest drain on the battery. An app called "spare parts" is a little more accurate.
I ran the gambit on this one finnally got my battery back to normal for me anyway. I've never seen a full days use with out charging. Get about 14 hours Max now. But the calibration steps is the way to go.
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You also might consider reading the threads on calibrating battery after flashing roms. I made the mistake of flashing a rom @ 40% battery. It jacked my stats all up. The new rom thought 40% battery was actually 100%. It had my stats all screwed up too. Except mine was Bluetooth. Showed running at 60% of battery ussage. So don't trust that system tool. Because the display is almost alway gonna be the biggest drain on the battery. An app called "spare parts" is a little more accurate.
I ran the gambit on this one finnally got my battery back to normal for me anyway. I've never seen a full days use with out charging. Get about 14 hours Max now. But the calibration steps is the way to go.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.
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I actually have read quite a bit about battery calibration... and before I flashed a new ROM, I've made sure that current widget has been tracking 0ma for a while. (Only reliable way to be sure you have a full battery from what I can tell)
The batterystats.bin file and calibration has been ... contended in a number of places, mostly stating that when taken off the charger 'full' the battery stats file is overwritten... which makes calibration a non-issue (assuming that you occasionally charge your phone for a while after it hits 100% from time to time)
The problem is that the WiFi mA draw is HUGE compared to what it should be (in theory from reading other people's logs), and it's not because of the battery cover. AND It's not as bad in older AOKP ROMs than it is in newer ones. SO it could be a hardware issue exacerbated by a change in how WiFi is handled, but the hardware issue was never noticed because the battery life Stock was sufficient for my needs.
I've been busy working so I haven't been able to continue troubleshooting the phone (damn my patience), but Mondayish, I'll likely have traded my phone with a friend and root it and flash a new rom and see how the drain is with completely different hardware from a different vendor from a different lot of phones.
I had a similar issue with wifi. I changed the build.props wifi supliment scan from every 15 seconds to 180 and used the wifi fix manager apk. That seemed to help. Coupled with a proper battery calibration and I'm back to my display being the major battery draw.
So don't know if that helps but it seemed to work out my bugs.
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This I can do right now.. and given I'm on the same, unmodified AR24 release, I can observe it for the weekend before I annoy my friend about his phone.
Seems the WiFi scan interval was already set to 100... moved it to 180 anyway.
I used to have this issue. I could literally see my battery draining while I was using it. I keep wifi on most of the time. I recently purchased an anker battery online. It is AMAZING! My old battery wouldn't last more than 6 hours or so. Right now I'm at about 14 hours on this charge, and I'm at 47 percent. Try swapping his battery for yours for a day or two. Another thing to try is different radios if you're losing power to cell standby.
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DynamiteRave said:
I used to have this issue. I could literally see my battery draining while I was using it. I keep wifi on most of the time. I recently purchased an anker battery online. It is AMAZING! My old battery wouldn't last more than 6 hours or so. Right now I'm at about 14 hours on this charge, and I'm at 47 percent. Try swapping his battery for yours for a day or two. Another thing to try is different radios if you're losing power to cell standby.
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The phone ran for 2days 9hours with WiFi off and lasts for 8-10 hours with WiFi on. I am pretty sure that it's not a Radio/RIL or a Battery capacity issue. ;(
When I first got my Nexus 5, I got about 3.5 hours of SOT. This is with airplane mode 24/7. Note, I still have my phone in airplane mode 24/7. I upgraded to Lollipop 5.0 but before that I was getting bad battery. 5.0 I get about 2.5 hours. Now with 5.1 I got 2 hours. Barely.
I have used the troubleshooting battery life thread and searched around, tried custom ROMs, kernels, everything. Not a thing helps. BBS and Wake lock Detector show absolutely nothing out of the ordinary.
I've had my phone a little over a year now, and its just deteriorated. Is it just my phone? Bad battery perhaps? Or is everyone getting this awful battery?
I know what everyone is going to say to, it depends on usage. And it does, but to an extent. I'm a light user, I'd say. Greenify installed, I use Kik sometimes, little camera here and there and messenger to talk to people. That's literally it. If I have the phone sit there and do nothing I get good battery, well, better. But it seems switching apps or touching it at all hurts battery. I've tried App Ops, and location is off and sync. Literally every piece of advice I have tried.
So just a general question, how is everyone's battery holding up? It is really that bad? Or am I just unlucky. Nexus 6 has better battery and bigger screen but average battery. Which is sad. I think its software and bad battery related.
You definitely have a problem there the nexus 5 should last you much more than that even on lollipop
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You definitely have a problem there the nexus 5 should last you much more than that even on lollipop
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That's what I'm thinking. It used to be such a good phone, nothing is draining battery and nothing out of the ordinary is draining... :/ I think it is just a bad, used up battery.
Well you did look into replacing it with a G2 battery, you'll lose QI charging but have a bigger battery
It's not just you. In fact I'm very close to just going back to kitkat. I get no wakelocks, my phone shows as in deep sleep and just today my phone came off charge at 11am and was dead by around 5pm with half hour screen on time. That's just ridiculous! It was showing as deep sleep the entire time.
I've tried everything. I'm 80% sure lollipop is the problem because I know a lot of people with the same issues. Anything Google related I've turned off and I still can't shake this battery drain
If you're using airplane mode then you should get more, I get above 4 hours with adaptive brightness and a signal.
Sounds like a bad battery or something isn't right software wise
Feel free to posts stats and stuff, maybe have a look at what the times are for your cpu frequencies
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If you're using airplane mode then you should get more, I get above 4 hours with adaptive brightness and a signal.
Sounds like a bad battery or something isn't right software wise
Feel free to posts stats and stuff, maybe have a look at what the times are for your cpu frequencies
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I may post those stats, because I'd like to know. Me and so many others are getting lousy battery but you get this amazing battery. I'm starting to believe 80% of Nexus 5's just got awful stock factory batteries...
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It's not just you. In fact I'm very close to just going back to kitkat. I get no wakelocks, my phone shows as in deep sleep and just today my phone came off charge at 11am and was dead by around 5pm with half hour screen on time. That's just ridiculous! It was showing as deep sleep the entire time.
I've tried everything. I'm 80% sure lollipop is the problem because I know a lot of people with the same issues. Anything Google related I've turned off and I still can't shake this battery drain
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If you decide to go back, please let me know if things improve. I'm with you in that, me, you, and others are getting just awful battery. I don't understand it, deep sleep and nothing is causing any drain... But like the guy above, he is getting 4 hours with a signal? It has to be maybe we have bad batteries... It is just awful.
Definitely something wrong. I've got a launch week device putting it at almost 18 months old. I leave absolutely everything turned on, even have Google Fit tracking steps, Facebook app, and a couple games. I have also overheated the battery several times during bootloops. Just today I finished out a charge cycle with just over 3 and a half hours SOT, including 2 hours Bluetooth music, and just under an hour of wired headphone music using ViPER4Android with a couple options known to drain more battery.
I'd look into Better Battery Stats for some hidden kernel wakelocks.
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Definitely something wrong. I've got a launch week device putting it at almost 18 months old. I leave absolutely everything turned on, even have Google Fit tracking steps, Facebook app, and a couple games. I have also overheated the battery several times during bootloops. Just today I finished out a charge cycle with just over 3 and a half hours SOT, including 2 hours Bluetooth music, and just under an hour of wired headphone music using ViPER4Android with a couple options known to drain more battery.
I'd look into Better Battery Stats for some hidden kernel wakelocks.
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I've tried literally everything and nothing is showing up. Nothing... Bluetooth music to my stereo drains batter horribly. 1 song per percent. Maybe I as well as others have bad batteries and you're just lucky... Are you on 5.1? It literally makes no sense...
I came from a Galaxy S3. The Nexus 5 battery isn't that great, but your description sounds like you're unlucky. I went from Kitkat to Lollipop on the N5 and the battery life was definitely better. Perhaps try the Elemental X kernel?
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I've tried literally everything and nothing is showing up. Nothing... Bluetooth music to my stereo drains batter horribly. 1 song per percent. Maybe I as well as others have bad batteries and you're just lucky... Are you on 5.1? It literally makes no sense...
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I'm running CM12(5.0.2).
The only thing keeping me from trying to replace my battery is that there are occasional days right after a reboot where everything work as is should. (I.E., 3-4 Hr SoT, Bluetooth streaming 30min or so, 16-24hr total time). After that first day it goes to **** and I get maybe 1-2 hrs SoT and 12-16hrs total time. I'm just waiting on 5.1.1 at this point. In the mean time, it just lives on a wireless charger if I can access one at home or work easily.
If I'm a baseline (I'm probably not) then you certainly seem to have a problem.
I do seem to get marginally worse battery life on Lollipop, but still nothing to complain about - considering. Generally I get 3.5+ SOT over a 14+hour day (from 85% as I almost never let it run lower than 15-10%). That's with every service turned on (including precise location & always listening), and I normally listen to at least 2-3 hours of podcasts (accelated playback + skip silences, both processor-heavy) and some Tune-In radio & Play Music. Playback is usually a split between BT & the phone's internal speaker. My normal usage is almost all on Wi-Fi. 3G can be disappointing & will sometimes eat through my battery significantly faster.
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It's not just you. In fact I'm very close to just going back to kitkat. I get no wakelocks, my phone shows as in deep sleep and just today my phone came off charge at 11am and was dead by around 5pm with half hour screen on time. That's just ridiculous! It was showing as deep sleep the entire time.
I've tried everything. I'm 80% sure lollipop is the problem because I know a lot of people with the same issues. Anything Google related I've turned off and I still can't shake this battery drain
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To be honest kit Kat is the nexus 5s Prime os I doubt it's going to get better than that
You guys have to remember the jump from JellyBean to KitKat was nowhere near as expansive as the jump from KitKat to Lollipop and Google spent a year refining KitKat to 4.4.4. We're less than half a year into Lollipop. Yes, Lollipop should be in a much better state than what it is but obviously Google fell short of that mark.
my N5 also over 1 year, light usage but even with 2hrs SOT I still have at least 40% battery
p.s. wifi and bluetooth is always on
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If I'm a baseline (I'm probably not) then you certainly seem to have a problem.
I do seem to get marginally worse battery life on Lollipop, but still nothing to complain about - considering. Generally I get 3.5+ SOT over a 14+hour day (from 85% as I almost never let it run lower than 15-10%). That's with every service turned on (including precise location & always listening), and I normally listen to at least 2-3 hours of podcasts (accelated playback + skip silences, both processor-heavy) and some Tune-In radio & Play Music. Playback is usually a split between BT & the phone's internal speaker. My normal usage is almost all on Wi-Fi. 3G can be disappointing & will sometimes eat through my battery significantly faster.
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my N5 also over 1 year, light usage but even with 2hrs SOT I still have at least 40% battery
p.s. wifi and bluetooth is always on
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Okay you guys (and hopefully others) take a look at this battery. I did play Clash of Clans somewhat today and got den m decent battery but yeah. Any thoughts? Bluetooth streaming to my stereo still used 2 percent in 10 minutes. I'm adding more to a new post. I think I may have a bad battery still because even though it said 98 it went to 99 for a brief minute. I see messenger and Line during battery some, and cause wake issues but FB is greenified. Messenger isn't... Also the other apps like Google Calendar, and the Google App itself cause battery drain, and it shows Android OS in battery under screen.
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Okay you guys (and hopefully others) take a look at this battery. I did play Clash of Clans somewhat today and got den m decent battery but yeah. Any thoughts? Bluetooth streaming to my stereo still used 2 percent in 10 minutes. I'm adding more to a new post. I think I may have a bad battery still because even though it said 98 it went to 99 for a brief minute. I see messenger and Line during battery some, and cause wake issues but FB is greenified. Messenger isn't... Also the other apps like Google Calendar, and the Google App itself cause battery drain, and it shows Android OS in battery under screen.
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I do suck at math, but 2% per 10 minutes of bt streaming doesn't really sound that awful. That seems to work out to 8+ hrs of active usage. Most of my battery drain on streaming audio comes from the apps themselves - Most of my listening is of podcasts where I'm playing at 1.5x speed +skip silence which are both processor-heavy. TuneIn is pretty battery-hungry (and annoyingly buggy!) as well. Play Music seems a bit easier on my battery, but I'm mostly listening to the non-music apps & I probably don't do much better than 2% per 10(ish) minutes a lot of the time.
It's fairly common to see your battery level jump up or down a point or two once in a while. Others can better explain this technically, but I gather it's just refining the estimate of where you are at the moment.
*Edit* Looking at your screenshots, I don't see the app that you're streaming on. ?