Hello. I am dealing with an extremely fast battery drain issue. My battery can drain from a full charge in onlt seven or eight hours even in standby. I can have a full charcge, make or recieve no calls, and look agian in twi hours and have %70 percent or less. I have tried a new factory battery and it is the same. Now the battery life during use is the same. I can talk for an hour, ant the battery has only drained about ten or fifteen percent, about the same as if I am not talking. It is almost as if it is alway transmitting at full power. It does not matter if I close everything, turn off data, and even run a clean ram program. If I go to sleep at night with a full charge, it is dead in the morning.
specs,
Factory Rom, Factory radio. Touch pro disabled with some today screen plugins like a clock and a launcher.
please help.
Yes I am new, and yes I used search and read several threads about battery life. I did not find resolution.
Thanks, Drew
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I think you should flash a Rom.If may seem you have less battery at first but after it settles you will get a good week maybe.I normally get 5 days with alerts,Music etc.
Try this!
Try to play a music in TouchFLO 3D Music Tab or Windows Media Player, then press the power button (on the top of the device). The music should stop playing, if the music doesn't stop, there's something wrong with your Raphael.
no, the music stops like it should.
I had this issue once with custom ROM and hardreset solved it.
same here, i had this problem a couple of days ago, it is then that i realized that the Radio Version should be accompanied by it corresponding Rilphone. now i have a better battery performance
I have the exact problem, thing is though I have the default ROM. Should I flash it with a custom one for it to last longer? I went to the store where I bought it from and they recommended me to upgrade the soft or do a reset. Meh, I'll try everything, only for it to last me more than a day...
This sounds like a stupid idea, but what about throwing the device into "airplane" mode for the night? Maybe on a night that you're not going to expect calls. This can rule out the radio portion of the phone as the drainer and possibly point the fault domain towards a runaway application. Or - it could show that something is cranking on the data during suspend.
I've had some of the best battery life recently with 1.14.25.35. My initial runs with it were about the same as .05, but in Columbus Ohio my reception seems to be good enough that the radio backs down and I have >90% charge after 4 hours of standby/light phone use.
In Chicago a few weeks ago, my signal wasn't as good and the phone dropped capacity significantly faster.... so it's not all about the radio for me, but decent reception helps.
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Bought HTC Touch HD second hand -(nearly new) the other day and think it's great. Had one locked password screen ( HTC's have habit of doing this occasionally) and needed hard reset, but in the whole great PDA.
However, couple of times now battery charged night before and checked in morning - only two bars gone. Then an hour later gone to turn phone on and it has no battery life in at all. Not been used except for perhaps alarm. No WIfi on and no programs running. This has happened twice now. I have updated to the latest ROM as soon as I got it and problems hae occured after that. Could this be the reason.
It has only happend in the mornings. Charging up fine again now, but has left me high & dry without warning. p.s I check battery life all the time but it just went from nearly full to none in an hour??? Why
ryanburger said:
Bought HTC Touch HD second hand -(nearly new) the other day and think it's great. Had one locked password screen ( HTC's have habit of doing this occasionally) and needed hard reset, but in the whole great PDA.
However, couple of times now battery charged night before and checked in morning - only two bars gone. Then an hour later gone to turn phone on and it has no battery life in at all. Not been used except for perhaps alarm. No WIfi on and no programs running. This has happened twice now. I have updated to the latest ROM as soon as I got it and problems hae occured after that. Could this be the reason.
It has only happend in the mornings. Charging up fine again now, but has left me high & dry without warning. p.s I check battery life all the time but it just went from nearly full to none in an hour??? Why
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Any ActiveSync / Messaging / IM / other data-pull services active? What is the signal strength in your area? I live in a strange area: in my room I sometimes have 70% strength, ten minutes later only 10% - maybe this drains your battery.
turned off 3g
Noticed since I turned off 3 G battery life has been great. I t did searchquite a bit on H and 3g. perhaps this was the battery eater. Cheers anyway.
May also want to check your running apps as harddisk_wp was discussing. I had a very similar issue come up with my Kaiser/Tilt a few years back. I went from having great battery life to having maybe 2 hours max. Was carrying a second battery, etc., etc... Come to find out, the problem wasn't with my battery, it was with the software the phone was running. Specifically, that time, Emoze. The PC Connector was causing a problem (corrupt file) and every time it connected, it sent a pile of data, failed, then reconnected, and continued the loop, over..and over..and over again...
Needless to say, I corrected the problem (Emoze support made suggestions, a few weeks later I was gone from Emoze completely). Anything using data, heavy or not, can effect your battery life dramatically. Your 3G of course will drain it more, as will WiFi, but in my experience it is related to the data being processed itself...
-John
Thxs for that. Since I disconnected from 3G battery life has been great. End of each day still only two bars gone with lots of use. Ryan
^^yep, that darn 3G can suck the guts out of these batteries!
With Energy standart from 17Sep09- it took 5 hours until full discharge...
Impossible... check Radio or Rillphone...
valerima said:
With Energy standart from 17Sep09- it took 5 hours until full discharge...
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wow thats hillarious...
my 16 sept 09 build need about 2 days to fully discharge..
backlight is set to auto
3g off
data connection only if needed
and of course matching rillphone and Radio...
what with u?
You cannot measure a ROM's battery life performance by installing a ROM and seeing how long it takes to die. The device needs time to calibrate. About 1 week of normal usage minimum. After I flash a ROM, I'll sometimes get 5-12 hours on the first charge. After a week I get typically 48-72 hours per charge. This is with screen at full brightness, 3g/data on, lots of txt and calls etc. This has been my experience with all of NRG's ROMs. I do install the recommended radio, no need to mess with rilphone.dll if you are using Energy ROMs with the recommended radio.
With TAEL rom and 1.11.25.01 I was at 71% after 3 days of liberal usage. I am trying NRGZ's latest build now but TAEL's ROM has been by FAR the best I have ever used. I haven't left NRGZ since I got my Fuze 6 months ago, and TAEL instantly switched me. Battery life is much better, the ROM is better in every category. I recommend TAEL, with ENERGYRom a close second.
I get exactly 24 hours from full charge to less than 10%.
3G always on
Data connection always on
a few phone calls, a few texts, light data usage (web, rss, email, maps)
Using latest EnergyROM
I can get 1.5~2 days maximum if I turn 3G off, data off, and further limit data usage.
This phone is just extra bad with battery life in general. Even with the stock ATT rom I wasn't able to get more than 2 days.
am I the only one that uses a cradle charger with an extra battery and not care about batt life.
I care more about the quality of the rom.
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am I the only one that uses a cradle charger with an extra battery and not care about batt life.
I care more about the quality of the rom.
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nah, I would also prefer a newer/better performing ROM at the expense of battery life (which isn't always the case). As long as it last me throughout the day im fine.
Battery life is also highly dependant on geography. When I'm in the country (with coverage at all) the battery runs much quicker.
These are all subjective matters and opinions. You can not compare the use that each one makes and where each one makes it. Too many variables. The time it takes to discharge does not mean anything, or it says very very little to the other person.
It would be interesting if someone conducted a benchmark with some metrics to evaluate what each ROM consumes and where does the power goes (which apps, backlight, ...).
Maybe one day we can have a standard benchmark, maybe a simple thing, which can be used by the chefs when they release their ROMs, or by someone else, and that gives results that we're able to compare.
Perhaps someone who is reading this, is willing take this challenge and develop such a benchmark. That would be great.
ewuzh said:
I get exactly 24 hours from full charge to less than 10%.
3G always on
Data connection always on
a few phone calls, a few texts, light data usage (web, rss, email, maps)
Using latest EnergyROM
I can get 1.5~2 days maximum if I turn 3G off, data off, and further limit data usage.
This phone is just extra bad with battery life in general. Even with the stock ATT rom I wasn't able to get more than 2 days.
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I generally get the same usage with 3G and Data set to "always on", gps daily and maps. I can go a full 24-36 hours routinely and over the weekend if i'm not on the phone a full two days. I'm a flash ***** so i've had this on several ROMS including Energy and NATF.
I always use the ril with the appropriate radio, but accidentally used the 1.12.25.19 ril with radio 1.14.25.35 with great success... In doing this I was getting super battery life immediately....
But at the end of the day you need to find what combo works for you, what may be great for me in Atlanta may totally suck butt in San Diego or anyplace else for that matter. So test test test and report back...
i can only suggest this: LevelSightSvc.1.0.3.2.CAB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446434
install, go to power settings, disable SO auto adjust, and set the slider in the position u like (i usually set the 3rd step from the left).
LevelSightSvc fully replace the system autolight with HUGE improvement of my battery life.
Try it.
There are lots of things to take into account with battery life. Your radio can play a huge role as well as the base build the rom was built on. Then the various settings and apps suckle the battery tit also.
I put my phone on a charger every night before I go to bed since I use it as an alarm clock too. I usually have 60-70% left over with some light GPS, full brightness, a dozen texts and 5-6 calls. I don't know how accurate that is since I'm a chef and flash my phone 5-6 times a day. The latest one I've used for a while and seems nice.
there's a prog from nueROM called nueDynamicClock which underclocks your cpu when it's on standby or when the screen is off. it will increase your batt life significantly if your phone is on standby for long periods of time..
I agree with some of the others.
I am currently using EnergyRom Genesis build 09-20-09 (1.14.25.05 radio) and my battery doesn't run out that quickly. I recently did a stress test (as a comparison to a Nokia E71 I own) and the phone went roughly 5 hours before it hit 10%.
However, take my usage into consideration:
1) 3G always on
2) Heavy data usage (Youtube, Internet Radio, web surfing, etc)
3) Receiving text and emails
Obviously, that is very heavy usage, and will naturally drain the battery, but it took five hours to do so. By comparison, if I had just use it normally, it would last roughly 1.5 days.
Hi,
i have an abnormal battery drain on my mda vario iv. The battery with light use up to 30min internet, 3-4 texts, 5min phone call drains in 5-6 hours. The e mail is set to manual, weather too, wi-fi is off more than 75% of the time,backlight to auto, energy saving to turn off screen and phone... I have the Energy ROM Photon 2, and 1.14.25.35 with matching rilphone. Tried a fer battery cabs, and some GPS cabs, because I have an enormous lag, that seemed to drain the battery even further.
Please help
I changed the radio to 1.14.25.05 with matching rilphone. The problem seems to be with gps, i used the gps for 15min, left it at 80% it went to sleep for 2 hours, and after I woke it up it was on 33%?!!
Help please
51 views no replys. c'mon people, some tips please
Hy Hy,
got the same problem... but don't know why...
I made a radio update to 1.11.25.01 since it is gone.
May be it is a problem with the newer versions?
thanx for the reply
could be, i will try,and report back. Definetely Energy ROM is very power consuming, the best reviews battery-wise are for Timolols roms, but the links are broken, and can not be downloaded. Energy rom is nice and smooth, but the ram consumption on idile is 55%,and that takes a lot of power. I tried a lot of tips from various sites, but nothing seems to work. Is there a program that can measure power consumption in certain moments?
seems like it's your radio as mentioned before. some energy roms have been great on battery life (i've gotten up to 36 hrs!) and some die after 8. maybe try a different version of the energy rom too?
My Ram consumption on idile is 43-48% and i use my Touch Pro to hear Mp3's the hole day at work ... and got a Battery livetime of about 9 to 11 Hours ...
But if i use my Navigation system it dies in about 2-3 hours... is it normal for GPS?
yes it is normal for gps use. 3h is actually a good result
I have had my Fuze for a few days now, also flashed to an Energy ROM (21885) and radio version 1.02.25.32. I am pretty disappointed with the battery life, I have it connected to a USB cable for most of the day, so its charged at work. When I leave at 4pm, the phone is barely touched until 6:30am the following day, at which point the battery is dead.
Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS are all off, I have GLight, ASKicker and nueROM Processor running on Powersave mode. I have not messed with the settings of these much yet, but am surprised at how poor the battery really is.
I will probably end up picking up a 1500mAH battery at some point.
lately ive had terrible battery life because of data.
i have average while texting and just using the phone
but data can take off about 7 pct every 10 mins. that dont seem normal to me
Hi, I installed the viperS 530 ROM on my Sensation 4G almost 2 months ago, and I basically like the ROM. Battery life was never great on this phone, but now seems twice as bad. From a full 100% charge, 1 short less than 5 minute call will make it go down to 90 to 95%. If I connect to T-Mobile data and use the browser, I actually see the battery level drop 2-3% every *minute*! I tried watching a Youtube video, from 100%, dropped down to 3% within less than 2 minutes, and shut itself off! I rebooted, and it then said 27%. I pit it on charge and it took more than 12 hours to get back to 100%. I have the original battery that came with it, and a different brand battery that I ordered, both around 1500 mah. But they are about 3.5 years old, and when I'm home the phone is almost always on charge. I have GPS, location, sync, bluetooth and data normally turned off when I'm out somewhere, unless I need the data or wifi to connect. Seems to drain just as fast whether wifi or data. I keep my phone at 30 or 45 seconds for the display. If nou used at all, will seem to stay at or near 100% for a few hours, then start dropping.
Is it worth me ordering a new battery, or is there something in the settings I'm overlooking? Like I said, seemed to get worse with the new ROM. Thanks much.
i think your battery is dying since it is 3.5 years old
Thanks rzr86, gonna look fora new battery on ebay or Amazon, prolly one of the higher mah ones. Strange that both my present batteries are at the same level of weakness, for example on each, when online, battery level drops 2-3% per minute, you would one would be somewhat better or worse than the other.
In the meantime I just installed Wakelock Detector and Greenify that I was reading about at another site, so hopefully those will help somewhat.
its battery issue
dannykewl said:
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Is it worth me ordering a new battery, or is there something in the settings I'm overlooking? Like I said, seemed to get worse with the new ROM. Thanks much.
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I'll go ahead and chime in on this as well.
I picked up this Sensation as my friends wife got a new Sammy after the Sensation suffered horrible battery life, just as you described. She even got a new factory authorized battery, and still the exact same issue after a month or so. Needing a decent backup phone, I took it off her hands. S-off, new viper ROM.
Never had this model before, but I knew battery wasn't the greatest to begin with.
So after messing with it for a few days, I realized the battery was crapped out. Same as you wrote, loss of percentage just looking at it! :laugh::laugh: Reboot, different percentages every time. At the most, maybe one hour usage. Did the usual, flush battery stats, full charging, wipe stats again, etc. No help.
Finally bought a new battery couple days ago. Did a halfway charge, and the difference was seen immediately. Still discharged rather fast, but at least the percentage readout was consistent. Better but not acceptable.
So today, I tried "bump charging" about 4 times. First full charging resulted in about 5hrs (and a couple minutes) straight mp4 video via MX Player till battery shutdown. Now fully charged and bump charged and testing the second go around, only this time with normal usage and you tube playback.
Question (as being unfamiliar with this device). Is 5 hours Mp4 playback about normal for this device?
One thing I notice immediately, is that Youtube requires more battery power than standard video via MX Player. 8% in 15 minutes playback. This equates to roughly half available playback time compared to normal video. I suppose this can be attributed to the usage of constant wifi streaming using more CPU and GPU. Just a guess anyhow.
Will hope a couple more "full charges" will extend the usage some.
BTW, Running Sultan's CM11 with Sultan kernel at mostly default settings. Testing done with mostly only default apps running in memory.
When I first got my Nexus 5, I got about 3.5 hours of SOT. This is with airplane mode 24/7. Note, I still have my phone in airplane mode 24/7. I upgraded to Lollipop 5.0 but before that I was getting bad battery. 5.0 I get about 2.5 hours. Now with 5.1 I got 2 hours. Barely.
I have used the troubleshooting battery life thread and searched around, tried custom ROMs, kernels, everything. Not a thing helps. BBS and Wake lock Detector show absolutely nothing out of the ordinary.
I've had my phone a little over a year now, and its just deteriorated. Is it just my phone? Bad battery perhaps? Or is everyone getting this awful battery?
I know what everyone is going to say to, it depends on usage. And it does, but to an extent. I'm a light user, I'd say. Greenify installed, I use Kik sometimes, little camera here and there and messenger to talk to people. That's literally it. If I have the phone sit there and do nothing I get good battery, well, better. But it seems switching apps or touching it at all hurts battery. I've tried App Ops, and location is off and sync. Literally every piece of advice I have tried.
So just a general question, how is everyone's battery holding up? It is really that bad? Or am I just unlucky. Nexus 6 has better battery and bigger screen but average battery. Which is sad. I think its software and bad battery related.
You definitely have a problem there the nexus 5 should last you much more than that even on lollipop
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You definitely have a problem there the nexus 5 should last you much more than that even on lollipop
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That's what I'm thinking. It used to be such a good phone, nothing is draining battery and nothing out of the ordinary is draining... :/ I think it is just a bad, used up battery.
Well you did look into replacing it with a G2 battery, you'll lose QI charging but have a bigger battery
It's not just you. In fact I'm very close to just going back to kitkat. I get no wakelocks, my phone shows as in deep sleep and just today my phone came off charge at 11am and was dead by around 5pm with half hour screen on time. That's just ridiculous! It was showing as deep sleep the entire time.
I've tried everything. I'm 80% sure lollipop is the problem because I know a lot of people with the same issues. Anything Google related I've turned off and I still can't shake this battery drain
If you're using airplane mode then you should get more, I get above 4 hours with adaptive brightness and a signal.
Sounds like a bad battery or something isn't right software wise
Feel free to posts stats and stuff, maybe have a look at what the times are for your cpu frequencies
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If you're using airplane mode then you should get more, I get above 4 hours with adaptive brightness and a signal.
Sounds like a bad battery or something isn't right software wise
Feel free to posts stats and stuff, maybe have a look at what the times are for your cpu frequencies
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I may post those stats, because I'd like to know. Me and so many others are getting lousy battery but you get this amazing battery. I'm starting to believe 80% of Nexus 5's just got awful stock factory batteries...
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It's not just you. In fact I'm very close to just going back to kitkat. I get no wakelocks, my phone shows as in deep sleep and just today my phone came off charge at 11am and was dead by around 5pm with half hour screen on time. That's just ridiculous! It was showing as deep sleep the entire time.
I've tried everything. I'm 80% sure lollipop is the problem because I know a lot of people with the same issues. Anything Google related I've turned off and I still can't shake this battery drain
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If you decide to go back, please let me know if things improve. I'm with you in that, me, you, and others are getting just awful battery. I don't understand it, deep sleep and nothing is causing any drain... But like the guy above, he is getting 4 hours with a signal? It has to be maybe we have bad batteries... It is just awful.
Definitely something wrong. I've got a launch week device putting it at almost 18 months old. I leave absolutely everything turned on, even have Google Fit tracking steps, Facebook app, and a couple games. I have also overheated the battery several times during bootloops. Just today I finished out a charge cycle with just over 3 and a half hours SOT, including 2 hours Bluetooth music, and just under an hour of wired headphone music using ViPER4Android with a couple options known to drain more battery.
I'd look into Better Battery Stats for some hidden kernel wakelocks.
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Definitely something wrong. I've got a launch week device putting it at almost 18 months old. I leave absolutely everything turned on, even have Google Fit tracking steps, Facebook app, and a couple games. I have also overheated the battery several times during bootloops. Just today I finished out a charge cycle with just over 3 and a half hours SOT, including 2 hours Bluetooth music, and just under an hour of wired headphone music using ViPER4Android with a couple options known to drain more battery.
I'd look into Better Battery Stats for some hidden kernel wakelocks.
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I've tried literally everything and nothing is showing up. Nothing... Bluetooth music to my stereo drains batter horribly. 1 song per percent. Maybe I as well as others have bad batteries and you're just lucky... Are you on 5.1? It literally makes no sense...
I came from a Galaxy S3. The Nexus 5 battery isn't that great, but your description sounds like you're unlucky. I went from Kitkat to Lollipop on the N5 and the battery life was definitely better. Perhaps try the Elemental X kernel?
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I've tried literally everything and nothing is showing up. Nothing... Bluetooth music to my stereo drains batter horribly. 1 song per percent. Maybe I as well as others have bad batteries and you're just lucky... Are you on 5.1? It literally makes no sense...
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I'm running CM12(5.0.2).
The only thing keeping me from trying to replace my battery is that there are occasional days right after a reboot where everything work as is should. (I.E., 3-4 Hr SoT, Bluetooth streaming 30min or so, 16-24hr total time). After that first day it goes to **** and I get maybe 1-2 hrs SoT and 12-16hrs total time. I'm just waiting on 5.1.1 at this point. In the mean time, it just lives on a wireless charger if I can access one at home or work easily.
If I'm a baseline (I'm probably not) then you certainly seem to have a problem.
I do seem to get marginally worse battery life on Lollipop, but still nothing to complain about - considering. Generally I get 3.5+ SOT over a 14+hour day (from 85% as I almost never let it run lower than 15-10%). That's with every service turned on (including precise location & always listening), and I normally listen to at least 2-3 hours of podcasts (accelated playback + skip silences, both processor-heavy) and some Tune-In radio & Play Music. Playback is usually a split between BT & the phone's internal speaker. My normal usage is almost all on Wi-Fi. 3G can be disappointing & will sometimes eat through my battery significantly faster.
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It's not just you. In fact I'm very close to just going back to kitkat. I get no wakelocks, my phone shows as in deep sleep and just today my phone came off charge at 11am and was dead by around 5pm with half hour screen on time. That's just ridiculous! It was showing as deep sleep the entire time.
I've tried everything. I'm 80% sure lollipop is the problem because I know a lot of people with the same issues. Anything Google related I've turned off and I still can't shake this battery drain
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To be honest kit Kat is the nexus 5s Prime os I doubt it's going to get better than that
You guys have to remember the jump from JellyBean to KitKat was nowhere near as expansive as the jump from KitKat to Lollipop and Google spent a year refining KitKat to 4.4.4. We're less than half a year into Lollipop. Yes, Lollipop should be in a much better state than what it is but obviously Google fell short of that mark.
my N5 also over 1 year, light usage but even with 2hrs SOT I still have at least 40% battery
p.s. wifi and bluetooth is always on
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If I'm a baseline (I'm probably not) then you certainly seem to have a problem.
I do seem to get marginally worse battery life on Lollipop, but still nothing to complain about - considering. Generally I get 3.5+ SOT over a 14+hour day (from 85% as I almost never let it run lower than 15-10%). That's with every service turned on (including precise location & always listening), and I normally listen to at least 2-3 hours of podcasts (accelated playback + skip silences, both processor-heavy) and some Tune-In radio & Play Music. Playback is usually a split between BT & the phone's internal speaker. My normal usage is almost all on Wi-Fi. 3G can be disappointing & will sometimes eat through my battery significantly faster.
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my N5 also over 1 year, light usage but even with 2hrs SOT I still have at least 40% battery
p.s. wifi and bluetooth is always on
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Okay you guys (and hopefully others) take a look at this battery. I did play Clash of Clans somewhat today and got den m decent battery but yeah. Any thoughts? Bluetooth streaming to my stereo still used 2 percent in 10 minutes. I'm adding more to a new post. I think I may have a bad battery still because even though it said 98 it went to 99 for a brief minute. I see messenger and Line during battery some, and cause wake issues but FB is greenified. Messenger isn't... Also the other apps like Google Calendar, and the Google App itself cause battery drain, and it shows Android OS in battery under screen.
More screenshots hopefully adding
Phone is hating me
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Okay you guys (and hopefully others) take a look at this battery. I did play Clash of Clans somewhat today and got den m decent battery but yeah. Any thoughts? Bluetooth streaming to my stereo still used 2 percent in 10 minutes. I'm adding more to a new post. I think I may have a bad battery still because even though it said 98 it went to 99 for a brief minute. I see messenger and Line during battery some, and cause wake issues but FB is greenified. Messenger isn't... Also the other apps like Google Calendar, and the Google App itself cause battery drain, and it shows Android OS in battery under screen.
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I do suck at math, but 2% per 10 minutes of bt streaming doesn't really sound that awful. That seems to work out to 8+ hrs of active usage. Most of my battery drain on streaming audio comes from the apps themselves - Most of my listening is of podcasts where I'm playing at 1.5x speed +skip silence which are both processor-heavy. TuneIn is pretty battery-hungry (and annoyingly buggy!) as well. Play Music seems a bit easier on my battery, but I'm mostly listening to the non-music apps & I probably don't do much better than 2% per 10(ish) minutes a lot of the time.
It's fairly common to see your battery level jump up or down a point or two once in a while. Others can better explain this technically, but I gather it's just refining the estimate of where you are at the moment.
*Edit* Looking at your screenshots, I don't see the app that you're streaming on. ?