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Tell me what do you like about it, what you would like to have been different. And the best features. It suckss completely that tizen is running on gear 2 rather than android really disappointed and the software itself is making me not want to upgrade. Love android. Tizen has no apps. No development. It's a baby without its training wheels. They should have released tizen on the gear neo not gear 2. I don't want to shed $300 just for a couple new things. The watch itself is nice but I'm more interested under the hood and knowing it's running tizen. Makes it feel like like a 2L car I want a V8 powerhouse.
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All I can say is give it time. The G2 is my first watch and it's fine with me. It makes me not pickup my phone as much and that in it of itself is a win. I would like to have a keyboard to respond better than templates.
What kind of apps are people wanting on these things....I screen is so small I wonder what would be exciting to use.
You can speak to it to reply what you want to say rather than use the templates.
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What kind of apps are people wanting on these things....I screen is so small I wonder what would be exciting to use.
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This!
I have no desire to browse the web, play games, or watch movies on the Gear. That's what my Note 3 is for!!! I managed to get a keyboard on the Galaxy Gear, but it took more time to get my message correct on the Galaxy Gear than if I just pulled out my phone and used it. Plus the Tablet Talk app that enabled that functionality killed the battery (+ all the screen-on time). I currently have about 30 text templates to use for responding to text messages. If any of those don't fit the bill, then fine, I'll reach for my phone when I feel like responding.
The only app I can think that would be nice is some type of navigation integration with Maps. And even then I would only expect it to show me my next turn... not the entire map/route.
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This!
I have no desire to browse the web, play games, or watch movies on the Gear. That's what my Note 3 is for!!! I managed to get a keyboard on the Galaxy Gear, but it took more time to get my message correct on the Galaxy Gear than if I just pulled out my phone and used it. Plus the Tablet Talk app that enabled that functionality killed the battery (+ all the screen-on time). I currently have about 30 text templates to use for responding to text messages. If any of those don't fit the bill, then fine, I'll reach for my phone when I feel like responding.
The only app I can think that would be nice is some type of navigation integration with Maps. And even then I would only expect it to show me my next turn... not the entire map/route.
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Yeah...some map integration would be nice, but out of the box it does all I expect it to. I think once the Fleksy keyboard is released it'll be perfect. I love being able to get home, sit my phone down, walk freely and still be connected w/out it. I dont have but about 10 templates, but as I run into different situations I'll add more.
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Tell me what do you like about it, what you would like to have been different. And the best features. It suckss completely that tizen is running on gear 2 rather than android really disappointed and the software itself is making me not want to upgrade. Love android. Tizen has no apps. No development. It's a baby without its training wheels. They should have released tizen on the gear neo not gear 2. I don't want to shed $300 just for a couple new things. The watch itself is nice but I'm more interested under the hood and knowing it's running tizen. Makes it feel like like a 2L car I want a V8 powerhouse.
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All this Tizen hate going around is just going to keep developers from even bothering to develop. Why don't you just take the Gear 2 for a test drive. If it's not worth it, then return it. But just stop with all the hate mongering, it's not helping anyone.
And for the record, even Google turned its back on full Android for smartwatches. They came up with Android Wear, and from what I've seen (video) Android Wear is a minimalist OS geared toward simple notifications. TizenExperts.com clearly mentions (and seems to encourage) flashing custom ROMs for the Gear 2.
I so want to get a Gear 2 but the one thing holding me back is the lack of Google Now functionality. S voice is just so weak and limited by comparison.
If there any way to get Google Now working seamlessly on a Gear 2 just as on Android Wear? Will it be possible to port Android Wear to the Gear 2?
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I so want to get a Gear 2 but the one thing holding me back is the lack of Google Now functionality. S voice is just so weak and limited by comparison.
If there any way to get Google Now working seamlessly on a Gear 2 just as on Android Wear? Will it be possible to port Android Wear to the Gear 2?
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You are informed that there is nothing Google about gear 2 its running tizen Samsung os. Also even the original galaxy gear only got Google now after root. And needed to tether internet from phone to be anyway useful. Plus killed your battery fast . So your reason for not getting gear 2 makes no sense .
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You are informed that there is nothing Google about gear 2 its running tizen Samsung os. Also even the original galaxy gear only got Google now after root. And needed to tether internet from phone to be anyway useful. Plus killed your battery fast . So your reason for not getting gear 2 makes no sense .
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My reason for not getting Gear 2 makes no sense? Um, are you trying to be ironic or are you actually making a serious statement?
The fact Gear 2 does not make Google Now available is a DEAL KILLER in the extreme and as such makes PERFECT sense. S-Voice is slow, inaccurate and constantly sends you back to your phone for anything but the most basic information - thus eliminating the entire benefit of the smart watch. So, um yeah, it's a problem. And yeah, it makes sense to reject the Gear 2 for this reason.
Samsung has a history of shooting itself in the foot by forcing poor proprietary software on us (S-Note anyone?). Looks like they are doing it again here with Tizen.
My prediction? When the Android Wear products are released, Tizen will evaporate from the scene and even Samsung will release Android Wear Gear. Why would ANYONE buy a Tizen watch when they could have Android Wear?
I have been running google now for a couple of weeks now, I have reduced the size of the widget as its getting anoying with unwanted pop up cards, its not as good as you think
It's so funny to hear ppl praise Android Wear when they haven't seen so much as a real working demo. Do you even know what it is? It's a notification system. Exactly what the gear is. Other than that you probably won't be able to make phone calls. What is the big fuss with android wear anyway? What will it do that my gear2 doesn't already do?
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Android wear not seen?
The moto 360 is running android wear so yes we have seen a working "demo". But it too is somewhat limited compared to running it on your phone. Only responds to play music, not specific artists or songs and plays anything at random. It really only uses Google now and is pretty much useless otherwise unless you're into the fitness thing. I get more use out of my gear 2 but also am dissapointed in the lack of functionality of s voice as compared to using the phone. It'd be nice to be able to voice post a Facebook status but the watch doesn't support it, only the phone will
This is a first time I use Tizen wearable and I'm kinda disappointed with poor appstore. I'd like to reflash my gear s2 with Android Wear (if/when avaliable).
How about you?
Nope. If i wanted Android Wear I would have bought it. If Im gonna lose support for the bezel, nfc payments, tizen battery life, etc.... What's the point of owning an S2? Should have just bought a Moto 360.
No. Android wear has a better app selection for sure, but Tizen handles most of the core functionality a lot better. OK so android wear links well with fart apps on my phone to amuse my kid, but it gives me less powerful options for handling email and text notifications...
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I see your POV, maybe Tizen is better choice for particularly this device in terms of optimization, but on the other hand it's a huge lack of Android Wear and its market.
The reasons you've marked is correct and makes sense, but can be easily fixed by Samsung if they will.
I'm sure we will see rotaty bezel devices on Android Wear in nearest future and Google have to optimize their wearable OS in that direction anyway.
The android wear ui is a mess as well. Samsung did a fantastic job with the gear s2. Hopefully some guys at Google use the s2 and do some serious thinking about android wear. Samsung did a lot of things better. Like almost everything having to do with notifications and how I can respond to them, the widgets, the consistent ui, the bezel.
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Keep the Tizen
Samsung needs to continue with their Tizen OS for Gear series.
They are doing many things right now. Personally I don't see many advantages of Wear over Tizen on Gear.
They don't even need many more apps if they can get some of the major ones well supported.
If they can open up a bit and better support more apps creation and Google Now voice support, I don't see why they need to use Android Wear for Gear series. They can also improve S-Voice and not be dependent on Google Now voice support as well, which would be even better.
I would never get an Android Wear device. I do not want to tie myself to Google that much. One goal of mine is to have as little Google in my life as possible: I am down to Android (with the most minimal gapps that will allow the phone to operate) because the other alternatives are worse and an email address that I use for web related commerce. As far as Smart Watches go, I have been using them since I got a WIMM (Mine actually still works which is more than I can say for my Kickstarter edition Pebble) and the S2 is by far the best watch I have had for what I want: notifications without having to look at my phone, something to tell me the TOD, and a countdown timer. I know I am a curmudgeon but there you are.
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I'm sure we will see rotaty bezel devices on Android Wear in nearest future and Google have to optimize their wearable OS in that direction anyway.
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I'm not so sure the rotating bezel will come to other watches anytime soon. I really hope it does (really is a great input method) but Samsung has it patented from what I understand. Guess we'll see.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/samsung-patents-bezel-spinning-smartwatch-input
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I'm not so sure the rotating bezel will come to other watches anytime soon. I really hope it does (really is a great input method) but Samsung has it patented from what I understand. Guess we'll see.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/samsung-patents-bezel-spinning-smartwatch-input
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Lol! Sammy pulled an apple. Patent does not automatically mean exclusive. It just means other OEM's will have to pay to add it to their devices. Might be worth it.
The watch faces with android wear are loads better, such a simple thing to be limited on with tizen..love the os though
I would love to have something as functional as Google now on my watch. If s-voice was half as functional then I would be quite a happy camper. But I agree that all the basic functionality is working quite nicely. Love not having to bring my phone around to make quick runs to the store or lunch etc. Still get my hangout, whatsapp, email text calls etc and I can reply to them right on my watch
Definitely not, I've had a android wear watch for the past year and their was no way in hell I would buy another one.
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My issue with Android wear is that sometimes I wanted to go back and look at my sms history and I couldn't. Once you dismiss a notification it is dismissed and you can look at it again ...
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My issue with Android wear is that sometimes I wanted to go back and look at my sms history and I couldn't. Once you dismiss a notification it is dismissed and you can look at it again ...
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Sounds like the problem we have with apps like hangouts and whatsapp. We can reply but not get any history. But we can get text and email history :good:
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Definitely not, I've had a android wear watch for the past year and their was no way in hell I would buy another one.
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The problem of tizen for me is the really limited app store ... The bezel is amazing , but i would be able to use it to surfing on web ( for exemple on opera mini ...) or zoom in a photo .... And i cannot do anything of that ... There is a giant potential in this watch , but userfull is less than a china watch like the no.1 d5...
One part of my decision which watch to choose was, that I dislike Android Wear because its way to googly in there (if you know what I mean ;D). I spent much hours of keeping Google out as much as possible out of my phone without loosing the Play Store but on the watch basic apps like messages, mails, calendar, health, calc, alarm,... are more than enough. I also stick with one of the stock watch faces. Tizen is a new way to think and do and I like that way. So up with Tizen! Also Android had to start in a small way.
Maybe I'm missing something, but:
No Hangouts support
No sleep tracking
No connection to MyFitnessPal
Very limited watch face selection
I'm really disappointed in what I thought would be basic functionality of my Gear S2 and I could seriously use some Wear support.
The battery life is really better than Android wear. The core function is good.
But I really love the google now, wish samsung or some one can make google now run on the gear s2.
I also want my gear can run android wear app
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The battery life is really better than Android wear. The core function is good.
But I really love the google now, wish samsung or some one can make google now run on the gear s2.
I also want my gear can run android wear app
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Yes, I would like to Have Google now, shazam and spotify (view the playlist, not only change song and sound)... I'm waiting for that!
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I'm planning to buy either a Huawei Watch or a Samsung Gear S2 Classic soon, and the one piece of information I seem to be unable to find is a decent list of what apps are available for each?
Based on watching youtube videos I really prefer the interface on the S2, seems far more intuitive, but I don't want to find myself missing apps that I would find useful...
Anyone got one and find anything missing or know where I can find a list - google is failing me! Having come from Windows Phone to Android recently I dont want to back myself into an app hole again
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-gear-s2/599771-list-apps-work-gear-s2-please-add-here.html
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-gear-s2/599771-list-apps-work-gear-s2-please-add-here.html
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So that list is really handy, thanks, but does seem to be 6months old...
Also, it doesnt help me by comparing to what Android Wear has - I havent used either, so I don't know what i'm missing out on if you know what i mean...
e.g. can i do turn by turn directions on wrist with google maps on either device? Can i get Waze running on either device? That article mentions e-mails and messaging with Samsung apps on their phones, what about on my Z5? Do i need to find a third party in that case?
I've updated that Gear s2 list on and off for the last six months, so while it's not comprehensive, it's up to date as far as it goes. I don't have a google wear watch to compare, but unlike Samsung, google let's you browse android wear apps on the web: https://play.google.com/store/apps/category/ANDROID_WEAR
It's generally agreed that android wear has way more apps than Tizen (and that apple has even more apps than Wear.) There's not a lot of agreement about how important that fact is. Some smartwatch users stick mostly to notifications, which are good for things like getting messages and for quick, simple replies; saves you from digging your phone out of your pocket all the time. Others care more about specific apps. The general feeling seems to be that the Gear S2 has maybe the best hardware and interface (and many like its looks), but that apps for the Gear S2 are a weak link. So, for example, the Gear S2 has a couple of options for turn-by-turn directions, one that comes with the watch called Here maps, and another 3rd party app called Gear Navigator; both are a little funky in my experience. Over on Android Wear, I'm guessing you'll have many more options to try from. On the other hand, the only circumstance in which I've found watch-based turn by turn directions useful is on a bicycle; in a car, the tiny screen just doesn't match up to having a full-sized smartphone screen on your dash. (I'll have to let someone else with experience let you know about what works and what doesn't with a Z5.)
Thanks for that. I had an MS band before and basically used it for notifications and telling the time!
I guess I'm worried that there will be some app I realise I want and can't get on Tizen , which knowing how that felt on WP is a concern...
But as you say, Gear S2 classic is the best looking smart watch out there (imho) for the price (huawei is nearly £100 more) so might be worth the shot since the interface appeals much more...
Hopefully someone with one and a Z5(or anything but a Samsung) can tune in and tell me how crippling it is to not be on Samsung's infrastructure
I've just sold my Huawei Watch and am currently using a s2 classic, my thoughts....
never installed any apps on my Huawei barring watch faces and an app to ajdust screen on time, all I needed and I guess wanted was the stock apps.
Gear s2 is IMO a better watch and the interface is so intuitive, of it could swap S voice for Google then I'd be even happier , so far the s2 does all I need and I love the extra run time I get compared to android wear.
I also have a gear S running biktors wear port so I still have option to use android wear whenever I choose.
BTW I got my s2 classic on eBay for £110 so this is based on my thoughts and this price point.
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I've just sold my Huawei Watch and am currently using a s2 classic, my thoughts....
never installed any apps on my Huawei barring watch faces and an app to ajdust screen on time, all I needed and I guess wanted was the stock apps.
Gear s2 is IMO a better watch and the interface is so intuitive, of it could swap S voice for Google then I'd be even happier , so far the s2 does all I need and I love the extra run time I get compared to android wear.
I also have a gear S running biktors wear port so I still have option to use android wear whenever I choose.
BTW I got my s2 classic on eBay for £110 so this is based on my thoughts and this price point.
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Thank you for the insight. Are you running with a galaxy phone or something else?
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Honestly I don't think either are worth their retail price, be patient and grab a mint 2nd hand one and let someone else take the hit.
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It should be no problem getting the S2 to link to a Z5, I am running on a Nexus 6 with a CM-based custom ROM with no problems. Apparently, you can do more with an S2 and a Samsung phone but I am not missing anything I want.
I try to keep Google out of as much of my life as possible so the idea that Tizen is not integrated into the Google infra-structure is a plus for me. I know I am in the minority but you couldn't pay me to use Android Wear (or Apple for that matter).
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Well, despite leaning towards the Gear I just got a deal on Prime Day for the Huawei for under £200 so have sumped for that. Figure if I don't like it I can probably break even on selling on anyway
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I'm planning to buy either a Huawei Watch or a Samsung Gear S2 Classic soon, and the one piece of information I seem to be unable to find is a decent list of what apps are available for each?
Based on watching youtube videos I really prefer the interface on the S2, seems far more intuitive, but I don't want to find myself missing apps that I would find useful...
Anyone got one and find anything missing or know where I can find a list - google is failing me! Having come from Windows Phone to Android recently I dont want to back myself into an app hole again
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I think Tizen will improve in future and will add some best stuffs like android. I read here (Tizen vs android difference - .mindxmaster.com/2017/01/samsung-tizen-vs-google-android-compaision.html) Tizen is using HTML 5 apps and has better flexibility than android. Android has lots of apps in Google play store, which is an advantage over Tizen.
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I think Tizen will improve in future and will add some best stuffs like android.
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I have the Gear1, Gear2, GearS2 and use Tizen for about 3 years. I think I can count on the finger on ONE hand the new apps for Tizen since 3 years, so.......
So my question is basically will the future watch (or watches) from Samsung will be also using the Tizen system and will Samsung continue to support and the devices?
Or will it be like in other experiments where after a couple of versions the company moved to a different system and abandoned the old one.
I am asking this because i have been burned before with the HTC HD2 (LEO) that came with win6.5 and lost support after about a year (give or take) luck would have it that it could be outfitted with android and be used for a few more years but i don't think that this will be the case with watches.
So do you guys think that there is a future to Tizen and that the app store will continue to grow and improve and Samsung will continue to update the software? or will it switch for example to androidware next year and we might be stuck with a 400$ unsupported outdated watch that gets no new apps what so ever. (windows even closed down the app store for the win 6.5 at some point)..........
Hope to hear your thoughts o the matter before I go and buy one
It's tough to say... We're in a very weird spot. I would guess the Gear S3 is probably the best selling wearable, most desirable and IMO, most well rounded smartwatch. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like developers are knocking the door down to create apps. The scary part is, the S2 has been out for a while and it doesn't seem like much has been accomplished. Let's hope that these developers see the value in the S3 and we can get some basic apps added.
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It's tough to say... We're in a very weird spot. I would guess the Gear S3 is probably the best selling wearable, most desirable and IMO, most well rounded smartwatch. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like developers are knocking the door down to create apps. The scary part is, the S2 has been out for a while and it doesn't seem like much has been accomplished. Let's hope that these developers see the value in the S3 and we can get some basic apps added.
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Tizen is an experiment - not much promotion by Samsung. The watch is a beautiful piece of hardware but as usual, Samsung is being devious - there is NOT 4 Gb of memory available but only 1.5 Gb - the rest is taken up by bloat - watchfaces that many won't use, S-Health that cannot be removed, etc.
Typical - they think they know what we want and never listen to customers - IMHO, these watches will (are?) not gaining market traction and are a solutoion looking for a problem to solve. Maybe some folks just want notifications, SMS, Email and not how many steps they walked today?
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Tizen is an experiment - not much promotion by Samsung. The watch is a beautiful piece of hardware but as usual, Samsung is being devious - there is NOT 4 Gb of memory available but only 1.5 Gb - the rest is taken up by bloat - watchfaces that many won't use, S-Health that cannot be removed, etc.
Typical - they think they know what we want and never listen to customers - IMHO, these watches will (are?) not gaining market traction and are a solutoion looking for a problem to solve. Maybe some folks just want notifications, SMS, Email and not how many steps they walked today?
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I've had my S3 for a few weeks now and love it but I have to admit that after having several Android watches, the support for apps is so much better. With the S3, you are pretty much stuck using all Samsung apps which sucks.
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Tizen is an experiment - not much promotion by Samsung. The watch is a beautiful piece of hardware but as usual, Samsung is being devious - there is NOT 4 Gb of memory available but only 1.5 Gb - the rest is taken up by bloat - watchfaces that many won't use, S-Health that cannot be removed, etc.
Typical - they think they know what we want and never listen to customers - IMHO, these watches will (are?) not gaining market traction and are a solutoion looking for a problem to solve. Maybe some folks just want notifications, SMS, Email and not how many steps they walked today?
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Unfortunately it is not just Samsung that does crap like that (forced apps etc). Even Pebble had watch faces that you couldn't remove if you wanted. Most every phone/tablet has bloat you can't remove. I don't understand this mentality and why they won't let the user make their own decisions, I guess they think we are all too dumb to know what we want. Maybe users aren't vocal enough and since no one complains they keep doing what they do thinking everyone likes it.
I have an issue with the S3 where when not connected to phone I get that distracting watch icon that ruins the look of watchfaces and can't be turned off. I guess Samsung never thought anyone would use the watch without being tethered to the phone constantly even though they allow it to be used standalone. I suppose they also never thought putting a big white icon over the 12:00 position on all faces would bother anyone, go figure.
As far as Tizen who knows I guess it depends on how easy it is to port to it from android and how popular it gets. Apple watch OS is only Apple and they succeeded being a separate OS.
I have been wondering the same. Whats the future of this platform? The gear s2 has been out for a while, and still pretty much the same. I mean not even google has any apps for tizen. What if this is a dying platform? What if once android wear gets next big release, samsung decides, oh we are done with tizen?
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I have been wondering the same. Whats the future of this platform? The gear s2 has been out for a while, and still pretty much the same. I mean not even google has any apps for tizen. What if this is a dying platform? What if once android wear gets next big release, samsung decides, oh we are done with tizen?
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Welcome to Blackberry OS10 and Windows Mobile!
That is exactly my point...
I mean the watch looks beautiful and I think it's one of the best looking smart watches out there, and I also love the bezel use.
I had experience with Windows Mobile and Windows 8 rt and this is why I am not buying the watch yet.
I don't buy and don't intend to buy a new watch every year, I replace watches only when needed or every several years and I am kinda of scared on spending almost 400€ ( I live in germany) on a watch that will become irrelevant and not useful in a year or less.
Just like the HTC hd2 was replaced by an android version after less then a year ....
A big problem I see is our community is very scattered. Basically, I migrate between xda and android central. I've had android wear and after having this watch, I really don't want to go back, but unfortunately will have to of the app selection doesn't grow. I use this watch as a standalone sometimes and I need certain apps.
Man i dunno. I guess we probably have to just wait and see. If samsung sees money in this thing, they might invest enough. And who knows. Wish we had a way to attract developers for tizen.
Thank you all for the answers
I guess that at least for now i will remain on the fence.....
I cant afford and nor do I want to spend almost 400Euro's on a watch that I will need to replace in a year because of lack of support and lack of development......