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Does anybody else notice that the screen colors on the MT4G are a little too high, its like the colors are too bright. I know that I can turn the brightness down, but right now I just have it set to automatic and I like that and I don't want to have to change that.
Does anyone know how to change the contrast on the MT4G? I just want to saturate the colors a little more. Anyone?
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Does anybody else notice that the screen colors on the MT4G are a little too high, its like the colors are too bright. I know that I can turn the brightness down, but right now I just have it set to automatic and I like that and I don't want to have to change that.
Does anyone know how to change the contrast on the MT4G? I just want to saturate the colors a little more. Anyone?
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You can't do this on any android phone, rooted or not. Could you take a picture or maybe tell tmobile your problem, it might be an actual lcd problem.
Yeah I thought that I was the only one. Especially on this site when you view it from your mobile browser, the brown XDA heading is too bright and faded
I noticed it when I got my wife a MT4g. On her phone the colors are slightly more saturated and the blacks are slightly darker also. It is kinda bothering me now.
wanna see something crazy look at your phne for a minute and then look your computer the screen looks blue lol iyts true my mytouch colors are bright or must be my eyes
jesemalave1 said:
wanna see something crazy look at your phne for a minute and then look your computer the screen looks blue lol iyts true my mytouch colors are bright or must be my eyes
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Maybe its related to the screen being used in the phone.
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Im going to the tmo store tommorow hopefully they can help. They will probably look at me crazy.
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My wife is experienceing this as well. She went to look for the night time bedside clock app and found when the app turned the brightness down to 6 the entire screen went black, but at a brightness level of 7 the screen was dim, but still brighter than I would expect.
She commented on her Vibrant when the brightness was turned down it would go all the way down and have a black background, not a washed out dim gray background.
Hopefully there will be a fix coming.
I posted elsewhere that the screen, while obviously not as good as the Vibrant's, seemed to be just as good as that of the Nexus, Incredible, Eris, etc.
Well, I stand corrected. After reading your post, I downloaded 'Night Watch', and compared the look to that of my wife's Nexus. The Nexus does indeed appear to have a black background at 39% brightness, with vibrant green (color I chose) numbers. The MT4G appears more grey-ish, with less vibrant green numbers. Even when I reduced the brightness by another 5%, the MT4G was still grey-ish.
Now, I'm not sure if this is the screen hardware itself, or something in the contrast settings of the phone. It did bum me out a little, as I've been a pretty staunch supporter of this phone since I got it.
The dilemma is,
Do I decide to go back to a Vibrant for a nicer screen, but much fewer options? (not much chance of that)
Look to find another Nexus; and tak ea step back in terms of processor speed, ram, features, et.c (with the exception of the color trackball, which Nexus lords over ever other phone)
Wait until something better comes out; as there are no other android phones comparable to this one in terms of features, available by T-mo right now? (Wait? Really? Arggh!)
All in all, I'm very happy with this device. And maybe I'm just knee-jerking. But, in truth, it does bother me somewhat. Thoughts?
Kienz said:
I posted elsewhere that the screen, while obviously not as good as the Vibrant's, seemed to be just as good as that of the Nexus, Incredible, Eris, etc.
Well, I stand corrected. After reading your post, I downloaded 'Night Watch', and compared the look to that of my wife's Nexus. The Nexus does indeed appear to have a black background at 39% brightness, with vibrant green (color I chose) numbers. The MT4G appears more grey-ish, with less vibrant green numbers. Even when I reduced the brightness by another 5%, the MT4G was still grey-ish.
Now, I'm not sure if this is the screen hardware itself, or something in the contrast settings of the phone. It did bum me out a little, as I've been a pretty staunch supporter of this phone since I got it.
The dilemma is,
Do I decide to go back to a Vibrant for a nicer screen, but much fewer options? (not much chance of that)
Look to find another Nexus; and tak ea step back in terms of processor speed, ram, features, et.c (with the exception of the color trackball, which Nexus lords over ever other phone)
Wait until something better comes out; as there are no other android phones comparable to this one in terms of features, available by T-mo right now? (Wait? Really? Arggh!)
All in all, I'm very happy with this device. And maybe I'm just knee-jerking. But, in truth, it does bother me somewhat. Thoughts?
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I know exactly what you mean, the blacks look grey and the reds look pink.
I think there is something wrong with the contrast balance in the software somehow, because it does seem like a nice screen, but those are just my thoughts.
I sincerely hope that this is the case. If so, perhaps some tweaking can be done in the settings, mch like, but nothng at all like, the registry settings change in WinMo phone, wherein the colors/contrast could be adjusted by assigning different numbers.
I realize that there is a huge difference between android and WinMo registry tweaks. But it's hard to believe they would simply included an inferior screen to go along with so many other hardware improvements.
its not an amoled display guys, it's never going to be completely black or have as high a contrast ratio as the nexus or vibrant.
Yeah, I know what kind of screen it is, and I know how others look in comparison, my point is though, my Mytouch3G had better colors. It just seems like something could be done via software.
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It has only been out a couple of weeks, I would give it some time and everyone complain a little to T-Mobile and hopefully they can add it to a future OTA update.
I only had the MT4G for a night before returning it for a replacement (which is still in the mail), but I agree: The screen looked very washed out. It was so bad that I am now considering keeping my Vibrant.
I am not asking for SuperAMOLED-like quality, but something average would be nice... not low quality crap.
I'm starting to think there's production issues. The very first 2 units I saw had the washed out look. I saw one today that seemed fine. I went thru the menus and changed the backgrounds. Everything seemed much better on this one.
I wish I could compare them side by side, but these were in 2 different stores.
Thoughts?
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I had been weary about the screen ever since I got mine last Wednesday. From reading reviews talking about how great the screen looked, and then mine was kinda... blah. First words in my mind when I turned it on was how washed out some of the colors looked.
I took mine back to T-Mobile tonight and swapped it out for a new and I have to say that there's a huge difference. Some of the colors are still a little off, but it looks like it's the app's icon and not the screen itself. Compare the newest YouTube app's red to the TasKiller's red, for instance.
Now to wait on the OTA so I can re-root this thing and clean it off.
I wish I had something to compare mine to. I went to the store, thinking I would compare mine to one of theirs. But it was a bust; as the screen looked exactly the same. So either mine is as good as the replacement you got, but just pales in comparison to the Nexus. Or it's washed out, the one in the store is washed out, and I'm still at square one. Unfortunately, there's no way for me to tell.
I took my MT4G back after running the Asphalt demo next to an Epic and Droid X. The colors were totally faded out and missing details seen on the other devices. The Epic is over-saturated and the X seems to split the difference, not to mention the size is awesome.
Hmm...
Well, being with T-mo, neither of those other two is an option for me. But, I'm thinking about it, and I'm starting to think our phones only seem to pale in comparison.
What I mean is, side by side, yes, they seem to be less-than-stellar. But when used on their own, they seem to be pretty alright... though obviously not as good as what our minds recall the others being.
If you look at a 60hz 1080p tv side by side with a 120hz edge-lit LED tv, yes, the original would look tame. But that's not to say that it doesn't look great on it's own.
It is time to start pushing developers of apps you like but you dont get BLACK skins/modes/themes. Start pressing developers to optimize every app they create or update by including BLACK theme to save our batteries and often life saving extra minutes of being connected before we they are drained.
Many people will appreciate if there will be at least section or website listing such a soft which contains apps with black themes.
One of worst examples is Talk Google.
Purely white and with no choice, at all, maybe good for LCD phones,
but hostile for AMOLED batteries.
What's needed I think is an accessibility setting that inverts colors, I'm photosensitive so it would be lovely to turn all the painful white on my phone to a nice non-irritative black.
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it would need to be app based selective.
would work nice for Google Talk but Skype wihch i guess will never have black skin,
especially under strictly conservative and not always practical Microsoft management mindsets, Skype would turn to orange-like tones after reversing colours.
so i think that black skin is simple to including, and doesnt require crerativity to compose, its just white on black, easy peasy quick and nice.
so why it is not standard yet?
Agree i have a GNex and would love apps to have black themes, like some twitter apps as well as facebook. The major apps should have black themes as Samsung is one of the largest handset makers and they are obsessive with AMOLED
White screens are so terrible in the dark D:
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It is time to start pushing developers of apps you like but you dont get BLACK skins/modes/themes. Start pressing developers to optimize every app they create or update by including BLACK theme to save our batteries and often life saving extra minutes of being connected before we they are drained.
Many people will appreciate if there will be at least section or website listing such a soft which contains apps with black themes.
One of worst examples is Talk Google.
Purely white and with no choice, at all, maybe good for LCD phones,
but hostile for AMOLED batteries.
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I agree 100%.
I have been BEGGING imo and others to release dark themes for months.
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mass.w said:
It is time to start pushing developers of apps you like but you dont get BLACK skins/modes/themes. Start pressing developers to optimize every app they create or update by including BLACK theme to save our batteries and often life saving extra minutes of being connected before we they are drained.
Many people will appreciate if there will be at least section or website listing such a soft which contains apps with black themes.
One of worst examples is Talk Google.
Purely white and with no choice, at all, maybe good for LCD phones,
but hostile for AMOLED batteries.
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You are right. It's beter for the planet too
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some amoled screens have those nasty lines from the darker backgrounds though. i thought that was an ongoing issue.
How is that? Amoled and Super Amoled are supposed to have less battery usage. It used to consume only about 7:40% from the battery.
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whereas LCD consumed up to 70% of mean battery capacity an all white screen on AMOLED should only consume 50%. There would have to be something else like processor, with today's dual core, 1.5 freq, etc. eating battery life. Lithium is an old technology that is now affordable. It is also a highly reactive and temperamental technology too. Everything from heat to humidity are enemies to lithium.
Besides this though, I agree. We can change backgrounds, etc in Linux and Windows, why not Android?
White screens are so terrible in the dark x2
we all agree with that, but i think developers will change the layouts of games or so
having amoled plus screen and using it with %25 brightness to save battery life is just
Black screens would be nice to save battery. I use bgoog as my home page in the browser to save power.
I leave my brightness at the lowest setting majority of the time, but leave it in auto when I'm out in the sun.
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I'm using ics resurrection remix with my galaxy s2. All gapps are black themed along with messaging apps, etc. However, normal apps are lacking with black themes I 100% agree
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Hi,
I have a ZTE Blade and the screen various in some versions, some have AMOLED and others not. Has some way to figure out if I have a AMOLED screen or not ?
Dark skinned apps n themes look way better imo...hope developers take note.
Dark skinned apps do save a lot of battery and save your eyes from that bright white screen when you look at your phone in the middle of the night. But the white is nice at the same time. I guess I'm indifferent about it.
If you cant spot difference in darkness, go and google it. Find out tech-spechs from websites.
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Well, I saw a Rogers user posting his comments after a week of use so I figured I'd post some opinion as well, especially since I disagree with several of his opinions.
First, I've noticed the wi-fi issue as well. As with some other posters my router is not known to be super reliable, so that could have some impact. Also, it seems that some folks are having success switching to G instead of N and that may also help as I believe I am on G at work and I haven't had any issue with wi-fi at work. Hopefully this can be fixed with a software update.
I first reported some disappointment with the warm hue of the screen, and either it is growing on me or it is burning in a little bit and the tans, greens, and oranges are starting to look better. The screen as a whole looks fantastic. Several people have remarked how it looks like a sticker on the phone or like the image is sitting on top of the glass. The resolution is fantastic and everything looks crisp vibrant. Reds, blues, and yellows look fine too. White seems pretty white to me. When comparing a white screen on the HOX to an AMOLED screen the HOX looks white and the AMOLED looks blue.
Battery life is about what I was expecting and seems to be on-par with the international version. I've not had any trouble making it from 8AM to 11PM even with pretty heavy usage. It's not as good as my Captivate on AOKP which could make it ~30 hrs under my normal usage which is relatively light. Because the HOX is such a great phone and it's brand new I've been using it a lot more so the most I think I've gotten is 18 or 19 hours which most people would consider fantastic in consideration of the usage.
Camera is by no means average and it absolutely smokes the iPhone 4S. I took some test shots with my wife's iPhone and the HOX just blows it away. The flash is much better, but even in low light without the flash the HOX looks better, has less grain to the photos and generally focuses better and has better color reproduction. The speed of the camera is incredible and using the burst mode to capture a moment is a stroke of genius if you have a dog or a kid that you want to take a pic of them doing something cute.
I've not had any status bar icon issues or in call volume adjustment.
My biggest complaint is not being able to turn off LTE since I'm not in an LTE area. I tried using a different APN and I didn't notice any difference and it didn't improve my battery life at all. I only had the new APN for ~2 days but I felt I may have been getting worse battery life, but certainly wasn't getting better battery life so I just went back to the stock APN.
I guess the Rogers poster was coming from an iPhone and remarked on a slight lag moving between homescreens. This is exagerated to say the least. This phone with sense 4.0 is the fastest UI I've seen on an android phone and the only phone that is more fluid is the iphone and that is due to apple putting realtime priority on UI rendering computations while Android puts industry standard normal priority on rendering. No matter how good the code is, no matter how fast the processor is, it's just never going to look like the iphone because it's never going to have realtime priority. That said, this phone responds instantly to all touches in virtually all parts of the phone. The only times I've seen lag is either app related or network related. It's a great user experience.
Another concern I saw in some other threads that I completely agree with is that the white smudges easily. In addition, the polycarbonate shell may be very durable in that it protects the phone, but it's basically the same material as a LEGO and as such can be dented with a drop as I've unfortunately experienced already. As far as the smudging the phone wipes back to a bright white easily, but probably needs to be cleaned every few days to keep it bright white and not getting dull. The white looks fantastic, best looking white phone out there, but I'd have to reluctantly recommend the grey if you aren't going to use a case in order to hide some dirt and dings more easily.
Overall, this is a fantastic phone. HTC has lived up to the hype and produced THE top android the device out right now. If you want the best in basically every area, you want an HOX right now, and it doesn't look like Samsung is going to beat it and it's going to take quite some time for the S3 to come to the US. If you've got an ATT upgrade in the next 2 months, you'd be crazy not to drop it on the HOX.
Hey since your on the AT & T version and you don't have the setting to turn LTE off. Type *#*#4636#*#* go to phone information and you can switch it to GSM/HSPA only. Let me know if that works for you!
My two biggest concerns right now are the wi-fi performance (which seems to be real and potentially fixed with a software update) and the battery life. In a few days we should see professional reviews for the AT&T model that will be able to compare the international and LTE editions under equal usage.
I know the white is harder to keep clean but I really prefer the look of it over the grey. Maybe I'd just make the effort to keep it clean.
I also think the camera lens is an issue with respect to scratches. I don't plan on using a case 95% of the time, so I'd have to find a DIY way to cover said lens while not in use. (I was thinking a small piece of electrical tape or something along those lines.)
I'm also going to wait until the WWDC keynote next month to see what Apple has in store for iOS 6.
If the wi-fi issue can get settled, battery life is solid while using LTE, iOS 6 isn't leaps and bounds better than iOS 5, then I'll probably make the jump. Some things to line up first though.
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Camera is by no means average and it absolutely smokes the iPhone 4S. I took some test shots with my wife's iPhone and the HOX just blows it away. The flash is much better, but even in low light without the flash the HOX looks better, has less grain to the photos and generally focuses better and has better color reproduction. The speed of the camera is incredible and using the burst mode to capture a moment is a stroke of genius if you have a dog or a kid that you want to take a pic of them doing something cute.
I've not had any status bar icon issues or in call volume adjustment.
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I did some more testing with the camera and no doubt it is able to create some fairly high quality shots. I just find the camera experience a bit easier overall with the i4s. We have matte grey walls at home and for some reason they always show up weird and distorted, I'll take a pic after work tonight and post it to show you what I mean.. I'll also post a comparison pic off the iPhone camera.
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Hey since your on the AT & T version and you don't have the setting to turn LTE off. Type *#*#4636#*#* go to phone information and you can switch it to GSM/HSPA only. Let me know if that works for you!
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Tried this before and posted results in my first thread about it. Doesn't work.
Odd question, can you do time lapse videos? I know this is an ICS thing, just wondering if HTC left it in?
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Odd question, can you do time lapse videos? I know this is an ICS thing, just wondering if HTC left it in?
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I don't have the phone yet but i remember from reading a review from neowin that they left the time lapse feature out.
blairh said:
My two biggest concerns right now are the wi-fi performance (which seems to be real and potentially fixed with a software update) and the battery life. In a few days we should see professional reviews for the AT&T model that will be able to compare the international and LTE editions under equal usage.
I know the white is harder to keep clean but I really prefer the look of it over the grey. Maybe I'd just make the effort to keep it clean.
I also think the camera lens is an issue with respect to scratches. I don't plan on using a case 95% of the time, so I'd have to find a DIY way to cover said lens while not in use. (I was thinking a small piece of electrical tape or something along those lines.)
I'm also going to wait until the WWDC keynote next month to see what Apple has in store for iOS 6.
If the wi-fi issue can get settled, battery life is solid while using LTE, iOS 6 isn't leaps and bounds better than iOS 5, then I'll probably make the jump. Some things to line up first though.
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I know a lot of user's are concerned about getting the white version dirty, eBay has some clear gel cases for 2$, figured I'd share since a clear case won't hide the beauty of this device
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I know a lot of user's are concerned about getting the white version dirty, eBay has some clear gel cases for 2$, figured I'd share since a clear case won't hide the beauty of this device
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No clue if I'll end up getting the One X, but if I do, I'm only going to use a case when necessary (working around the house, etc). Love the way that polycarbonate feels in my hand. Camera lens needs to be covered with something though.
Has anyone messed with the APN settings and noticed a difference in battery life. You definitely can force HSPA/+.
Do you realize the menus are now all in white?
Are they mad?
AMOLED's have terrible white, and their whites are never accurate.
Do they want our screens to die faster or something?
There's a reason previous Touchwiz-es all have black menus.
An advantage to black menus is that AMOLED's use absolutely no power for black
and almost twice the power for whites compared to LCD's
So what the hell are they thinking?
Livebyte said:
Do you realize the menus are now all in white?
Are they mad?
AMOLED's have terrible white, and their whites are never accurate.
Do they want our screens to die faster or something?
There's a reason previous Touchwiz-es all have black menus.
An advantage to black menus is that AMOLED's use absolutely no power for black
and almost twice the power for whites compared to LCD's
So what the hell are they thinking?
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They are thinking more letters from the OCD types.
How long does anyone here keep a device? 6 months? a year? Does anyone really use this as a professional device for Photography or video work? Or just snapshots and video logs where all that can be fixed with SW. As long as they have replaceable batteries, and people can charge every night I don;t think battery life is a concern. The Note 2 battery life is insane for such a large phone. I have never used my spare. I was using it at about 4PM on my S2 previous to the Note.
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I'm not 100% sure but I think that it might be changeable. I've seen some of the same pictures show in both black and white.
Edit: or its a mixture of Black and white menus....
But either way.... easily changed.
Thats why you gain root and wait for a rom.
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I'm not 100% sure but I think that it might be changeable. I've seen some of the same pictures show in both black and white.
Edit: or its a mixture of Black and white menus....
But either way.... easily changed.
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Glad it's easily changed. But why did Samsung went to White?
I noticed the white menus too, and I really don't like it.
I hope it's switchable. And I hope when updates finally come to the S3 that they don't change over to white menus.
I usually just use custom ROMs, but I had considered going back to stock if there was an update.
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Livebyte said:
Do you realize the menus are now all in white?
Are they mad?
AMOLED's have terrible white, and their whites are never accurate.
Do they want our screens to die faster or something?
There's a reason previous Touchwiz-es all have black menus.
An advantage to black menus is that AMOLED's use absolutely no power for black
and almost twice the power for whites compared to LCD's
So what the hell are they thinking?
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But why does it matter to you since you're not getting the phone anyway?
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But why does it matter to you since you're not getting the phone anyway?
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Hey! Be nice.
This forum is open to all, if there getting the phone or not.
He's just posting what's troubling on the device.
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Hey! Be nice.
This forum is open to all, if there getting the phone or not.
He's just posting what's troubling on the device.
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What is your problem? I wasn't being mean that was a simple question.
Livebyte said:
Do you realize the menus are now all in white?
Are they mad?
AMOLED's have terrible white, and their whites are never accurate.
Do they want our screens to die faster or something?
There's a reason previous Touchwiz-es all have black menus.
An advantage to black menus is that AMOLED's use absolutely no power for black
and almost twice the power for whites compared to LCD's
So what the hell are they thinking?
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Things have changed a lot since the AMOLED display on the original Galaxy S. The OLED's last much longer, power efficiency is drastically improved and their screen tunings have also improved. And about accurate whites, that is simply not true. The Galaxy S3 had a more accurate white point than the HTC One according to DisplayMate's own tests, even with the S3's green push.
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Things have changed a lot since the AMOLED display on the original Galaxy S. The OLED's last much longer, power efficiency is drastically improved and their screen tunings have also improved. And about accurate whites, that is simply not true. The Galaxy S3 had a more accurate white point than the HTC One according to DisplayMate's own tests, even with the S3's green push.
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I hope so. In that case, I think Samsung believes its own display is efficient enough to have whites in their menus.
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The answer's hiding in plain sight.
That and S-600 should be 20% more efficient than the SGS3 and Octa potentially more so. If you want to worry about something the additional sensors, especially the one that allows the display to recognize something hovering over it, probably use more power than the white menus do. There's an option under power saving to turn off the sensing of the S Pen when it's not removed on the N2. The great thing about the white menus is that, in direct sunlight, it's a ton easier to read dark text on a white background.
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The answer's hiding in plain sight.
That and S-600 should be 20% more efficient than the SGS3 and Octa potentially more so. If you want to worry about something the additional sensors, especially the one that allows the display to recognize something hovering over it, probably use more power than the white menus do. There's an option under power saving to turn off the sensing of the S Pen when it's not removed on the N2. The great thing about the white menus is that, in direct sunlight, it's a ton easier to read dark text on a white background.
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Thanks. That cleared up a lot of my misunderstandings.
I will still have to see how it affects the burn-in issue of AMOLED's.
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I will still have to see how it affects the burn-in issue of AMOLED's.
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There are 100MM Galaxy devices of various forms that have been in people's hands for years. The percentage complaining about burn-in is I'd guess less than single digit percentages. So it can definitely happen but I'd guess that it's not happening in large volume based on average screen-on time or it's so subtle people don't even notice.
P.S. - With your GIANT "One" signature you'll be viewed as a Palestinian in Jerusalem on the SGS4 forum.
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P.S. - With your GIANT "One" signature you'll be viewed as a Palestinian in Jerusalem on the SGS4 forum.
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ROFL HAHAHAHHA. that's messed up hahahha.
BarryH_GEG said:
There are 100MM Galaxy devices of various forms that have been in people's hands for years. The percentage complaining about burn-in is I'd guess less than single digit percentages. So it can definitely happen but I'd guess that it's not happening in large volume based on average screen-on time or it's so subtle people don't even notice.
P.S. - With your GIANT "One" signature you'll be viewed as a Palestinian in Jerusalem on the SGS4 forum.
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I like your perception of my sig. HAHAHAAAAA
Maybe I'll have both devices on my sig so people won't judge me because of my sig.
Livebyte said:
I like your perception of my sig. HAHAHAAAAA
Maybe I'll have both devices on my sig so people won't judge me because of my sig.
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We won't judge you, i won't. I just thought that Barry comment was hilarious, i didn't expect it
So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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mopar said:
So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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Red screen*
When I got this phone in my opinion it was clear whit but tgen when I tried reducing the red colour it became even more clearer, I don't know it's probably I didn't pay attention to the colour when I got this phone...
In my opinion the blue light filter messes up the display although I know this isn't the case..
I got a replacement new phone as I cracked the screen on my first one, and my new one, if anything is slightly cooler / bluer than I usually like, no red / pink issues I can see. My last one was ever so slightly reddish even with red slider down.
for me it is fixed after:
- specific sw update
- set adaptive display
- set display tone to cooler option (-1 or -2 from the slide bar in display settings)
Out of the box mine is fine. I swapped my first one that had a pinkish display even when red turned all the way down.
mopar said:
So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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if i understand your question right then yes, there are devices without the ted tint issue!
I went into 4 shops and looked at 8 phones and everyone of them had the red /pink issue only 1 could you turn down red to reduce it in adaptive settings when it became blue/green white and all were red In photo and cinema settings
I bought my s8+ ten days ago, after two days I changed it because of pink borders... Before change, I powered on two new s8+, one were all red (not only borders), the other one was nearly perfect... But I had to choose another color (orchid gray) instead of my first black phone... It's a shame that we have to choose the phone from the color of display and not from the color of the phone...
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My screen is pretty noticeably green-tinted, but it somehow gets corrected when sliding the cool / warm slider all the way to the right, making the display more warm. Even though the issue is too much green, making the display warmer seems to fix it somehow. I know that the issue is green, because sliding down the green slider under advanced options fixes it, while sliding down the blue or red one just makes it worse
And pro tip, you can combine the cool / warm slider with the advanced options RGB sliders, if the warm / cool slider isn't enough on its own. Perfect mix for me is the cool / warm slider all the way to the right, and green slider decreased by 1-2. You could fix a bright red display with the combination of the general slider and the RGB sliders
I'm still concerned that Samsung isn't taking this time to educate people of OLED calibration. They could put this entire thing to bed with just providing more than 2 marketing crafted sentences. Not one thing is wrong with the screen sans those with actual manufacturing issues of course. Microsoft takes their pixel sense displays, like apple and individually calibrates them. Its why you don't complain about color on iPhones and even surface PCs.
This has 0 to do with the display, the manufacturing process etc. It's just a step that Samsung and many other don't do to their phones. They take a lot # for screens produced, get them close to accurate, preprogram the variables for the entire lot and off ya go. The update is fine because all it does is give yu extended granular control over the calibrations. Once you set the point on all, you'll be fine.
Keep in mind that even if they were individually SRGB calibrated for perfect color space and white point, someone who find them to look off because as humans our perception of color varies tremendously. I hate overblown colors yet RGB 100% dead on is weak and dead to me.
Just use your settings to make your screen right for you. That's all. Don't yell at CS, don't sit in the store waiting for their next lot of phones. They will be variations of the same display with slightly more detailed calibrations. And you'll have wasted time waiting for something you can just do yourself with some patience and correct lighting.
Funny thing about red screen and pink tint. I have my s8 plus since a week. My device came with lots of red tint, then I got an update that really helped, but still wasn't perfect. After few days my screen lost pink/red tint without adjusting anything. Of course, little pink tint on the edges exist but it's due to screen specifics.
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I'm still concerned that Samsung isn't taking this time to educate people of OLED calibration. They could put this entire thing to bed with just providing more than 2 marketing crafted sentences. Not one thing is wrong with the screen sans those with actual manufacturing issues of course. Microsoft takes their pixel sense displays, like apple and individually calibrates them. Its why you don't complain about color on iPhones and even surface PCs.
This has 0 to do with the display, the manufacturing process etc. It's just a step that Samsung and many other don't do to their phones. They take a lot # for screens produced, get them close to accurate, preprogram the variables for the entire lot and off ya go. The update is fine because all it does is give yu extended granular control over the calibrations. Once you set the point on all, you'll be fine.
Keep in mind that even if they were individually SRGB calibrated for perfect color space and white point, someone who find them to look off because as humans our perception of color varies tremendously. I hate overblown colors yet RGB 100% dead on is weak and dead to me.
Just use your settings to make your screen right for you. That's all. Don't yell at CS, don't sit in the store waiting for their next lot of phones. They will be variations of the same display with slightly more detailed calibrations. And you'll have wasted time waiting for something you can just do yourself with some patience and correct lighting.
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What your saying makes a lot of sense to me, maybe you can point me in the right direction here. I have the S8+ with a pink tinted screen and even pinker edges. Fortunately mine is consistent across the screen. I have 4 other Samsung phones and the Tab S 10.5, which all have great displays (at least to me they're all great). Every one has a slightly different white balance, but they're all nice. They also can be tilted at very strong angles and only have very minor tinting of the colors. Now, my S8+ has been updated and I've been able to get the edges to look great. I'm also able to get the main screen to a really nice white. Here's the two problems I'm running into that you might be able to help me learn how to fix and finish getting my phone to the quality I've grown to love with all of my other Samsung devices. If i adjust my whites in any giving environment, say inside, it looks wonderful, but as soon as I go elsewhere, like outside, or go from incandescent light to florescent, the whites will go to either redish again, or to a green/blueish. I've never had this on any of my other Samsung devices, I mean they do change from warm to cool depending on the environment I'm using them in, but they never look redish, or green/blueish like my S8+ does, they are warm or cool. That's what I'm trying to adjust my S8+ to do. I have all the great new tools that Samsung gave us in the latest update, but for some reason, I can't get it anywhere close to my other devices and have it stay that way when changing the lighting I'm in. The second problem I'm having is that if my phone isn't held almost perfectly straight on, it takes on a pink hue again. None of my other devices do this either. Like I said, all of my Samsung devices have different white balances, but they're still enjoyable to use. The main reason I've stayed strictly with Samsung is their displays, I'm a huge fan and just can't find any displays I enjoy more than Samsung's.....until now. If you can share any advice on anything I might be able to do to fix my S8+, I'd greatly appreciate it, this phone is the best one I've ever had, and I really don't want to have to return it and risk getting a dud. The display is really important to me and if i can get it to be at least as good as the worst of my other Samsung devices, it would be awesome! Thanks in advance for any advice!
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What your saying makes a lot of sense to me, maybe you can point me in the right direction here. I have the S8+ with a pink tinted screen and even pinker edges. Fortunately mine is consistent across the screen. I have 4 other Samsung phones and the Tab S 10.5, which all have great displays (at least to me they're all great). Every one has a slightly different white balance, but they're all nice. They also can be tilted at very strong angles and only have very minor tinting of the colors. Now, my S8+ has been updated and I've been able to get the edges to look great. I'm also able to get the main screen to a really nice white. Here's the two problems I'm running into that you might be able to help me learn how to fix and finish getting my phone to the quality I've grown to love with all of my other Samsung devices. If i adjust my whites in any giving environment, say inside, it looks wonderful, but as soon as I go elsewhere, like outside, or go from incandescent light to florescent, the whites will go to either redish again, or to a green/blueish. I've never had this on any of my other Samsung devices, I mean they do change from warm to cool depending on the environment I'm using them in, but they never look redish, or green/blueish like my S8+ does, they are warm or cool. That's what I'm trying to adjust my S8+ to do. I have all the great new tools that Samsung gave us in the latest update, but for some reason, I can't get it anywhere close to my other devices and have it stay that way when changing the lighting I'm in. The second problem I'm having is that if my phone isn't held almost perfectly straight on, it takes on a pink hue again. None of my other devices do this either. Like I said, all of my Samsung devices have different white balances, but they're still enjoyable to use. The main reason I've stayed strictly with Samsung is their displays, I'm a huge fan and just can't find any displays I enjoy more than Samsung's.....until now. If you can share any advice on anything I might be able to do to fix my S8+, I'd greatly appreciate it, this phone is the best one I've ever had, and I really don't want to have to return it and risk getting a dud. The display is really important to me and if i can get it to be at least as good as the worst of my other Samsung devices, it would be awesome! Thanks in advance for any advice!
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Now that seems like it might actually be a dud. Or try first calibration outside. This seems silly but are you using auto bright and adaptive display?
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Now that seems like it might actually be a dud. Or try first calibration outside. This seems silly but are you using auto bright and adaptive display?
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Ok, I will definitely try the calibration outside. I'm not sure I've tried it outside on a bright day yet. I am using the adaptive display setting and auto brightness, all of the other modes are quite pink and unusable, actually the tint is more of a magenta. I'm fairly certain its the adaptive display mode shifting my white balance in the various environments. Hopefully Samsung will somehow fix the other modes as well. The more I use my phone, the more I realize the biggest problem is the color shift that happens at angles. Almost any movement up, down, left, or right will produce a pink tint. If i go to an even stronger angle (around 75 degrees)the tint goes away. I can also get rid of it by turning both the red and blue down all the way and set the slider fully towards cool. The pink is gone when I do this, but then everything's really blue/green. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely give it a try and let you know how it works.
I've tried calibrating my display outdoors, but the pink persists. I decided to send mine back to Samsung. They said they'll repair it lol. I'll just keep sending it in until it's right. I'm at Best Buy now to have Samsung flash my firmware like the factory asked, although it's not going to fix anything. I've looked at about ten various S8 phones on display and found only 2 with the problem, one of the was borderline ok, the other was just like mine. It's my first time seeing another S8, one that doesn't have the pink tint and it pretty much about took my breath away! The display was more beautiful than I had thought it would be. I just wish Samsung would simply make this right and swap out these faulty phones, heck I'd respect them for it. Having to jump through hoops on a brand new thousand dollar phone is ridiculous. I had debated about sending it in to Samsung, wondering if I was just being too picky. After seeing what the display is supposed to look like, there's no doubt in my mind that my display/phone/software, whatever, is defective. Grrrrrr
I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.
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I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.
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Are you on csc SEE ?
vimto25 said:
I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.
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Carrier?
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Carrier?
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gregoryostrom said:
I've tried calibrating my display outdoors, but the pink persists. I decided to send mine back to Samsung. They said they'll repair it lol. I'll just keep sending it in until it's right. I'm at Best Buy now to have Samsung flash my firmware like the factory asked, although it's not going to fix anything. I've looked at about ten various S8 phones on display and found only 2 with the problem, one of the was borderline ok, the other was just like mine. It's my first time seeing another S8, one that doesn't have the pink tint and it pretty much about took my breath away! The display was more beautiful than I had thought it would be. I just wish Samsung would simply make this right and swap out these faulty phones, heck I'd respect them for it. Having to jump through hoops on a brand new thousand dollar phone is ridiculous. I had debated about sending it in to Samsung, wondering if I was just being too picky. After seeing what the display is supposed to look like, there's no doubt in my mind that my display/phone/software, whatever, is defective. Grrrrrr
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There is no chance I'd allow Samsung to "repair" my phone. This thing is brand new. You make them get you a BRAND NEW device out of a box you open in wherever you purchased it. Then you move forward in the store and check that display and all other fun things. Once satisfied, buy that unit. Why ever take a repair on something less than 1 month old. Have fun selling my OG unit as a refurb Sammy!