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Hi. I know this has been brought to question many, many times, but still, i'm having a hard time deciding. I got a Black Friday Code, which is valid until December 15. So i could get my hands on a Moto X (32gb) for around 420$. I've used the Moto X (2nd gen) and it's a beautiful phone. Feels premium in my hands and the screen and operating system is beautiful, Moto Voice is accurate and snappy, i loved the phone overall. On the other hand, there is this OnePlus One. 0.3 inches larger, but not sure if the proportion is the same (seems taller, but not wider, might be due to the capacitive buttons on the bottom). What i like about the OnePlus One better? - Capacitive Buttons, not a fan of of on-screen buttons, they take quite a chunk of my screen size. - Slightly large screen. (My note 3 suffered an accident, and its the phone i am looking to replace, i am used to the 5.5 inches, even if 0.3 difference inches is negligible, i can surely feel it between a 4.7 inch and a 5 inch phone). - Larger Battery. 'nuff said here. - 64 vs 32 GB Storage, neither of them has SD card slots, but 64G is huge for me.
"Higher" Levels of customization are irrelevant to me. I am a power user, and i've been around android since the times of the Motorola Milestone (Android Eclair 2.1) so i really like customization, but i could achieve that on a rooted Moto X and Xposed Modules and Such.
I am aware of some defective units being shipped, the yellow bleed on the bottom of the screen and the "already solved" black bar bug.
So question is, from you users, who have had both devices in hand, which one would you keep and why.
I am aware of the superior Customer Service by Motorola, but, is really the defective percentage of OnePlus One phones high? Is it really unstable to be your daily driver?
For me it comes to reliability vs power using. I wish both came in the same package, and they probably do, but surely outside my price range.
Thanks for your help!
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Because nobody wants them or because of the issues with the phone itself?
There really isn't a problem with this phone. You'll hear more complaints than praises, like anything. Battery life is a big thing for me. So I choose the one plus.
Go with the oneplus one man. Happy person over here, been having mines for 3 months and no issues other than some bugs from hardcore flashing...
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What ever blows your dress up. If you don't mind dumping the money for the X get it. If you want to save your money and still have a great phone get the 1+.
I have a Opo and considering the switch mostly for the software additions that Moto added. My wife just ordered one and once she gets hers I'll play with it and make a determination.
If I could make the decision again, it would be for the moto x... Yes, more expensive and a smaller screen, however at least I KNOW that I will be getting a quality unit with some level of manufacturer support... OPO said my dead pixel is normal and it shouldn't bother me that much... Do yourself a favor and get the moto x
Yeah, if you can afford it get moto x. And I been pretty happy with my One. But the warranty issues are concerning.
Thanks guys.
I asked myself the same question some time ago and I got the OPO.
I wanted yo try something different, and I'm pretty happy with my OPO, no problems at all.
My wife's Moto X arrived. It's a beautiful phone. The screen is (inaccurately) punchy. The added Moto software tweaks are pretty fantastic. The build is phenomenal. And it already has Lollipop. Performance is super snappy--noticeably better than the OPO.
Battery life, however, is a big step down from the OPO. And obviously it's more expensive. Camera looks to be about the same.
The One is really cool. I use mine since 6 months and it runs perfectly!
Comparison of specs: gsmarena .com /compare.php3?idPhone1=5601&idPhone2=6327
The OPO beats the MotoX hands down. I find the build quality to be really good, I love the soft back (Sandstone black edition) and metal strip running around the phone edges. Luckily, I haven't had any issues with the phone so can't say much about how helpful Oneplus is with warranty.
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My wife's Moto X arrived. It's a beautiful phone. The screen is (inaccurately) punchy. The added Moto software tweaks are pretty fantastic. The build is phenomenal. And it already has Lollipop. Performance is super snappy--noticeably better than the OPO.
Battery life, however, is a big step down from the OPO. And obviously it's more expensive. Camera looks to be about the same.
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My current daily driver is a Moto X Pure Edition. I'm in possession of a OPO for a little while (another strange story that I'll elaborate on later if anyone's interested) so I decided to do a little A-B comparison. I have to say that I am very impressed by the OPO. But as Stories pointed out, I too found the Moto X to be much snappier and responsive. This surprised me, a lot because they have identical processors, and the OPO has 3gb ram vs 2gb for the X. Am I missing something here? FWIW: the OPO is brand new, box stock, locked bootloader etc....
Edit: I'm not dissing the OPO, rather I'm looking for suggestions to close the gap with the X.
When I first receive the OPO the size a big bit hard getting use to coming from Nexus 5. But after a month with this phone it's hands down the best phone out there. Ridiculous battery life tons of support and developments. It's like a nexus 5 with double the battery life
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I'm kind of fighting with a similar issue; Nexus 6 or OPO. I have both and have been using the N6 as my daily driver for the past week and 1/2. Great phone, love the big screen, super fast even with encryption on. The OPO just keeps drawing me back, its really that good. If you go over to the N6 thread you will see the same kind of issues that you see in the OPO thread, so I always take that with a grain of salt, neither pf the phones had any issues at all.
Either of your choices are good ones for sure. The OPO has the best battery life I've used in the last 5-6 years, I came from a N5, HTC One. It boils down, for me anyway, what features do you want and who best can fulfill it.
Ultimately you have to make the choice, but honestly you can't go wrong with the OPO.
I have owned both devices and I would go OnePlus one simply because the battery life of the Moto X is just not good at all. It does get you through a work day but some days I need more juice and I have to charge the phone several times a day. I recently went to NY and I had to charge the phone 3 times that day. That sucks to me. If it wasn't for battery life then it'll be a harder choice. Oh yeah, if camera is something you really need then Moto X is a no no. Here are my pros and cons between both devices:
Moto X pros over One +1:
-Fits much better in hand
-Very stylish, customizable look
-Extremely fluid performance, zero lag
-front facing speaker are only bested by The boomsound speakers
-The Motorola features are the best features added to android
Cons:
-Mediocre battery life
- crappy camera
- very limited storage options
- Development is almost non existent
One +1 pros over Moto X:
- bigger display, more screen real estate
- Much better battery life
- Much better camera
- Development is pretty good
- more storage
- Price
Cons:
- warranty issues
- yellow tint issues on many panels
- HArd to purchase ( fixed?)
- CM has some bugs (fixable with roms)
The best way to compare devices is to pretend they came out the same day. The One Plus is a few months old but if it was released today alongside the Moto X, considering the price, specs, development, battery life, performance and all, honestly I think the OnePlus would be the best option IMO.
I had all moto phones and I bought the oneplus one and I am very happy. I had the droid maxx (newest version of the max line) and other moto/droid phones before the 1+ one I'm glad that in switched. I have acdisplay to get my active display. The only thing I miss is the twist to activate camera.
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Moto X pros over One +1:
-Fits much better in hand
-Very stylish, customizable look
-Extremely fluid performance, zero lag
-front facing speaker are only bested by The boomsound speakers
-The Motorola features are the best features added to android
Cons:
-Mediocre battery life
- crappy camera
- very limited storage options
- Development is almost non existent
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I have to agree with your assessment of both devices. The decision relative to which criteria are most important is obviously a personal one. Thanks for your input.
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A question for you. Do any of the custom ROMs available for the OPO significantly improve the responsiveness and fluidity, vs stock CM11S?
With the OnePlus Two rumored to be around the corner is the One still a good phone to buy? Or should I wait, I'm worried about the One running out of stock when the Two is released, and with the two being an invite only buy I may not even be able to pick one up and it's not often that I have money readily available to spend, so should I go for it now? Having the latest thing isn't much of a bother to me (Still on 2013 Moto G) Any answers would be great.
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With the OnePlus Two rumored to be around the corner is the One still a good phone to buy? Or should I wait, I'm worried about the One running out of stock when the Two is released, and with the two being an invite only buy I may not even be able to pick one up and it's not often that I have money readily available to spend, so should I go for it now? Having the latest thing isn't much of a bother to me (Still on 2013 Moto G) Any answers would be great.
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I upgraded from the 2013 moto g to the oneplus one, performance difference is huge, the screen is huge, the camera is 100% better and it is definitely worth £235 for about a week but then you question did i really need the one plus one , it really does look the same with the Moto g as they are both stock so if you really dislike something about the moto g then i would get the oneplus one as its great but personally with all the bugs you can possibly get i would wait for the two as they most probably ironed it out so they don't have the same issues. The one plus one is a real gamble, some peoples touchscreen mess up and some others have a non booting phone, i really am scared that my phone is going to just switch off and with there embarrassingly bad customer service i would be -£250 and im 16 so its a lot of money ;D
TL;DR - What flagship should I get next that I can root and unlock?
After being on the 2013 Developer Edition of the Moto X since it's release, I think it's time for a new phone with some more power behind it. I've been rooted and unlocked for a couple years, switching between multiple ROMs and using Xposed modules, so the hope is unlocking the bootloader won't be a pain in the ass like it was on my old Galaxy S3.
I know several people who have the S6 (non Edge model) and love it and the build quality/features. After a bad experience with Samsung bootloaders, bloatware, and stuck in the legacy channel for ROM support, it makes me wary to give my love away to something I may hate long term. Personally, I'd opt out of the Edge screen.
The Moto X Pure is coming out in September and after having a great experience on Moto, it looks like a strong contender for me. The Pure will get updates first and come unlocked (what kind of bootloader will come on it- or do you install one yourself?). I could not care less about Moto Maker, but the camera sounds like a great upgrade.
We've all heard the hype about the One Plus Two and now that its out and reviews have been surfacing it's positioned as the device to beat. I'm on board since it runs Oxygen and has the best specs on paper. Getting an invite doesn't seem too difficult, but the limited supply creates an issue in acquiring one.
And then I have the Nexus 5 2015 whose specs just got leaked is the most notable I have to consider. Android M is slated to be released in October/November, and that is when I expect the handset will drop too. Almost every Android enthusiast has wanted a Nexus, with me at the top of the list.
With all of these considered, what should I get next?
Speaking for myself, I'm very much interested in the Moto X Pure/Style and the upcomming Nexuses. No interest whatsoever in the S6, and the OnePlus 2 isn't enough of an upgrade to make me want it instead of my OnePlus One. Speaking of which, don't ignore the OnePlus One. $300 for a brand new 64gb one, and it'll be a perfectly competent device for a good long while, plus you'll have custom development support at a level only matched/exceeded by Nexus devices.
As for what you should get next, I can't say. Not yet, without these new devices being released and reviewed. The OnePlus 2 has a better camera...on paper. Same for the Moto X Pure. But without reviews, who can say? Will the underclocked SD810 on the OnePlus 2 perform up to standards? Will it still overheat? Will it be better than the 801-AC on the OnePlus One? What about the 808 on the Moto X Pure? What rumored features of the Nexus 5 will actually come to fruition (and what it have that surprises us)? And what about the Saygus V2? WTF is going on with that phone?
Now is not the time to decide anything.
There is already a thread for this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
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I have LG G4 and thinking of switching to Moto X Play as I always was fan of Moto X.
Have you made similar switch? If so what phone from and what are your first impressions?
I am coming from 1+1 . I have had drop my phone flat on screen and shuttered . Was waiting for for nearly 2 months now to buy new phone ...somehow this phone lured me given price tag and all the goodies it has inside. Last but not least existing customer care.
I'm kind of torn between oneplus 2 and play. What's your impressions on the Moto?
I will only get my X Play tomorrow.
Zenfone 2. I'd love a phone with a better camera and battery life.
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Moto X 2014 (and now, temporarily, Moto G 2nd. edition).
I'm coming from a HTC M8- loving my X play so far.. especially with the great battery life.
Coming from a Verizon Note 3, a late 2013 phone, and I'm pretty neutral on this phone after using it for more than a week. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I guess I preferred Samsung's superAMOLED screen and camera software, and especially the dialer. Stock dialer is just painful. Feels better in the hand though, and having dual SIM (I have the XT-1563 unlocked version from Brazil) is a godsend when you're traveling. Battery / fast charging / camera are all decent but pretty much the same as my Note 3. Doesn't feel like an upgrade but it does the job.
Coming from a Nexus 5 paired to a Moto 360. With the Nexus 5, I would have to charge the phone in the middle of the day to last. With the MXP and paired to the M360, it definitely lasts the day.
Came from a Galaxy S6. So far doesn't feel like a downgrade.
Coming from the S5. The Moto X feels like a huge upgrade. I'm assuming its got a lot to do with the X shipping with near stock Android. :good:
My last phone was the xperia sp but am currently using the S3. Just ordered the Moto X Play and its arriving tomorrow! Cant wait!
I'm considering an upgrade from my Galaxy s5 mainly for the extra battery life, but am worried about a downgrade in performance. Any advice guys?
One plus 2
Loads of negatives with this phone and this included USBC is not main stream so I had to buy spare cables for work car etc. Battery life was abysmal even with the ota oxygen OS update. It ran hot. Finger print sensor was OK not as good a apples.
Overall not worth it since moving to moto x play in so much happier the battery is a massive plus and overall the OS is faster.
All being well I'll be picking up my moto x play from carphonewarehouse today.
I'm coming from a LG g2. Battery doesn't cut it for me and all the services you can't get rid of without rooting etc really gripes me.
So a stock android, better camera and battery should be good.
Now I just need to sell my g2 and my n5.....
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Coming from Oppo Find 7a (X9006).
My dear old Z1 is dying and I hope DHL delivers my new moto X play asap..
Had an HTC One M7 Dev Edition, now switched to Koodo with the Moto X Play. Everything about the Moto X Play feels better... it's responsive, has insane battery life (not to mention the turbo charger), the screen size feels just right and looks good too. I feel like the only downgrade would be the build materials -- the HTC One has a beautiful metal chassis. Build quality is still solid though, although I'm hoping to get a case soon so it doesn't get prematurely murdered in my black hole of a purse.
I don't game on my phone (I'm a PC gamer), but I am a power user. Even with a ton of apps open, the phone speed is snappy and it doesn't get too warm. I really like the "pure" android experience that Motorola gives. My HTC phone was heavily skinned and detracted from the experience (although it's not the worst offender... I'm looking at you, Touchwhiz). Another thing I wasn't expecting to use so much is the Moto Voice/Google Now features, but it has come in handy a lot. Plus I now say goodnight to my phone, and it goes to sleep.
One creepy but pretty cool feature is the fact that the Moto X Play is ALWAYS picking up on what you're doing with the Google Now "assistant". It figured out where I lived after less than 24 hours, and it tells me what the traffic is like to get to work. I've had smartphones for years, but they've never been this "smart".
I haven't played around with the camera much, but it looks to be pretty decent from what I've read.
The fact of the matter is, most people don't need the expensive flagship phones anymore. Koodo sells the Moto X Play off contract for only $410 including the turbo charger, compared to $700+ for high range phone. I'd argue that specs are becoming less and less important as the software evolves. Unless you are a hardcore mobile gamer (do they exist??), need a space grey chassis, or just like to brag about having the best phone eva, everyone should consider the Moto X Play and so-called mid-range phones like it.
Had oneplus one before, but the software was buggy so I changed to huawei ascend mate 7. Huawei are too big phone for me so that's reason I'm going back for a 5.5 inch phone, moto x play. Like the way moto get updates and it's as near the real stock android experience. Looking forward for the android updates faster. This as near I will come my old Lg nexus 5. The best of two worlds.
Coming from a Zenfone 5 and looks like battery of my X Play will never end. My Zenfone was with an average 2h SOT and X Play go easily over 6h SOT.
Hi, maybe its to early to compare but since the price for both devices are almost the same in Europe i really cant decide which one is the better choice. Let me tell you something, i really like the pure android experience on Moto but i think that LG isn`t bad either. I hear there are some problems with data connection and touch on LG, and i am not sure if they solve the issue. Then again, the specs are pretty much the same on both, or am i missing something?
So what do you think, from your point of view?
The LG G4 is available today brand new unlocked on eBay for $452, shipped. The reason i went with the X Pure is because LG's UI is ugly and a resource hog IMO. Motorola's additions to Android are minimal yet extremely useful, which i prefer. I also feel that since the Pure is being sold unlocked directly through motorola, there will be better development for it here on XDA.
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The LG G4 is available today brand new unlocked on eBay for $452, shipped. The reason i went with the X Pure is because LG's UI is ugly and a resource hog IMO. Motorola's additions to Android are minimal yet extremely useful, which i prefer. I also feel that since the Pure is being sold unlocked directly through motorola, there will be better development for it here on XDA.
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The G4 has 0 development (at least Verizon and other locked bootloader devices). I love my G4 but she's going back in the box when my 64gb Moto X Style arrives.
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I have the G4. So development is dead, if you have a carrier one you have touchscreen issues (miss touches and lag), there is a fix but you have to wait for the update. Locked bootloader... I love the phone but it is annoying to use at the moment. Bring on the moto x
I have the TMobile G4 and a recent update fixed the touchscreen issues. I never had data issues though.
I am planning on switching to the Moto X Pure Edition. While I don't mind the LG UI and the phone has some nice useful customizations, I still prefer the stock Android experience. Throw Moto's features on top of that and the experience is that much better! I am also looking forward to the carrier-free experience!
G4'ed it!
Thanks for the feedback guys, i think i ll get the Moto x Style
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Thanks for the feedback guys, i think i ll get the Moto x Style
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Good choice Don't get me wrong the screen and the camera on the G4 is awesome but stock is the way to go!
I'm coming from the Verizon G4. While I love the looks, the feel, the camera, etc, I'm just not getting a good feeling that it will ever see a bootloader unlock. My MXP is supposed to arrive in a week, and I'm really looking forward to it.
I'm on the G3 right now and looking at the G4 as my finacee needs a phone and can take my G3. I was hoping to get the Moto X Pure, but I can't bring myself to go backwards on camera quality. Can't count on the new Nexus phones being great in that department either.
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It's not just about MPs
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Exactly, there's much more to it. All cameras now are measured against the LG G4, new Galaxy range and iPhone 6. From everything I've seen the Moto X Play & Style are not on the same level as these phones.
I admit I got the G4 due to all the camera hype ... and it certainly lives up to that hype! Manual mode is cool, but honestly WAY over my head. However, I have come to realize I don't take very many pictures - I find myself wanting to take more pictures due the G4's camera though LOL. Personally, I'd rather the Moto features and stock Android over the G4 camera as said Moto features will get far more use than the camera. Yes, I may have situations where I am let down or aggravated by the camera on the X, but as I mentioned, taking pictures for me isn't a normal occurrence so it's worth the trade-off IMHO.
Edit: And I've had the first and second gen Xs and seen what improvements Motorola can make via software updates. While it may never get to G4 quality, I am confident they will address what ever shortcomings the camera has (assuming it's limited to software and not hardware)
I'm going to buy the MXP when I have to cash on hand. My last Android phone was a Droid Razr(ancient). I've since been to and iPhone 5s, and don't really like the OS. I've also been using a 2012 nexus 7 and still use it every day. The pure Android experience on the Nexus devices trump all. Add in the Moto Features and you can't go wrong. The Camera in the G4 is better, but if you're buying a ~&400 device for a camera only, you should buy an actual camera. The G4 also had an IR blaster, which I don't believe the Moto X Pure has. It would be nice to have that, but it really doesn't sway a decision for me. I also like the 0.2 inch boost on the screen size for the MXP, but that's an entirely opinion based decision. Dev support will certainly be better for Moto as well. I would also like to point out that the Moto X is actually cheaper, and straight from Moto, so customer support will be better than getting it from a rand third party on Ebay.
Looking at various reviews/pics of the X play, getting at the battery isn't all that complicated. It's not a plug'n'play replacement, but appears to be a rather simple disassembly process. If it's anything like the 1st gen moto g, it's a no brainer.
Folks, can we stick to the topic please. I'm all for no replacement for displacement but I don't want to read up it in an updates for phone thread.
I have a sony z3 compact with a 21 mp camera. It is nowhere near as good as a galaxy s5, s6, note whatever, g3, or g4. Not even close.
MP don't mean sh*t.
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I have a sony z3 compact with a 21 mp camera. It is nowhere near as good as a galaxy s5, s6, note whatever, g3, or g4. Not even close.
MP don't mean sh*t.
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Yeah I agree, not all sensors are created equal which means you could have horrible ones and good ones. Perfect example is the 8 MP sensors on the iPhone... there are a lot of 8 MP sensors on the market that don't come anywhere close to the photos the iPhones put out, some are down right laughable. I think the G4 and S6 will have a better camera than the moto x, however I do not think it will be by much, for me as long as it is decent I will be happy.
I wonder how many days after the first few MXP's are delivered it'll take for TWRP to show up? My guess is that by the time I receive mine on the 21st, there will be a couple lightly mod'ed roms to flash.
...and then the G4 goes back in the box.
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I wonder how many days after the first few MXP's are delivered it'll take for TWRP to show up? My guess is that by the time I receive mine on the 21st, there will be a couple lightly mod'ed roms to flash.
...and then the G4 goes back in the box.
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It wont take long, the play got it quickly if I'm not mistaken, just a few drivers and it will be ready to go.
After reading some more reviews, I'm not so sure the G4 has a better camera. At least not for me. I rarely take pictures, but when I do, I only take them in good lighting areas. The reviews I have read say that the MXP has a better camera than any in good lighting. That's all I need to hear to give the MXP my vote for camera as well as my previously mentioned features.