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I did a small search but could not find anything.
Would it be possible for some smart developer to create new drivers/application for htc camera?
I mean iphone 4 has 5 megapixel camera just like htc hd2 however it can record 720p resolution videos. I will dear to say it quite good quality!!!
How come Leo can not do it? Is it possibly down to hardware as well?
720p video resolution is 1280x720 and 5mp stills are easilly 2x that?
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1st: the 5 megapixel are for pictures only.
2nd: i think the Hardware of the HD2 is capable of 720p videos as it is the same camera as in the Desire/Nexus One...
3rd: as windows mobile doesnt support 720p video playback (i think so) i dont think that it could record it
if it is possible, then in android...
ruscik said:
I did a small search but could not find anything.
Would it be possible for some smart developer to create new drivers/application for htc camera?
I mean iphone 4 has 5 megapixel camera just like htc hd2 however it can record 720p resolution videos. I will dear to say it quite good quality!!!
How come Leo can not do it? Is it possibly down to hardware as well?
720p video resolution is 1280x720 and 5mp stills are easilly 2x that?
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He does sorta kinda have a good point
720p does not mean the quality is going to be better. it means that the resolution is going to be larger.
you can stretch a VHS video to 720p... but at the end of the day its still a VHS.
Its all down to the camera sensor. Thats why you can pick up a 12MP digi cam for £60 or a 10.1MP Canon 1DS Mk3 for £1700.
I know which one I would have...
Oberoth said:
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1st: the 5 megapixel are for pictures only.
2nd: i think the Hardware of the HD2 is capable of 720p videos as it is the same camera as in the Desire/Nexus One...
3rd: as windows mobile doesnt support 720p video playback (i think so) i dont think that it could record it
if it is possible, then in android...
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I know that about camera still shots being 5mp only. Windows not supporting 720p is partially correct. Windows media player does not want to play anything bigger then 800x640 while core player shouts at me at 1024x768 sp not short of 720p, it is obvious it's driver/codec/software issue only for playback. Did anyone try tcpmp for 720p playback?
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720p does not mean the quality is going to be better. it means that the resolution is going to be larger.
you can stretch a VHS video to 720p... but at the end of the day its still a VHS.
Its all down to the camera sensor. Thats why you can pick up a 12MP digi cam for £60 or a 10.1MP Canon 1DS Mk3 for £1700.
I know which one I would have...
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720p does mean quality will be better.
Resolution 640x480 is 307200 pixels per frame plus what ever colour depth so x16 for 16m and so on.
Resolution 1280x720 is 921600 pixels which is over twice as much data to be displayed on the same surface.
Single pixel size on 32" screen with 640 resolution will be much bigger and therefore have much less details then with 1280 resolution.
Twice as much data will have to equal better quality.
I know that camera sensor is very important, quite often more then MP value. However our sensor if good enough to catch twice the resolution of 720p and after all video is just a bunch of still images played one after another (a bit more in to that I know ).
On HTC HD2 there was a burst photo option. With registry edit you could tell it to make 20 pictures a second ad 1280x720p or something similar. Almost full frame late
With Android (today build) you can rec 800x480 video file
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With Android (today build) you can rec 800x480 video file
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is it real? how can i find this build?
vessk0 said:
With Android (today build) you can rec 800x480 video file
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This would be true except there is no button on the HD2 to activate video recording (at least through the default android video recording facility. I'm assuming someone is working out how to remap one of the keys whilst in this program. It will happen though.
jonboyuk said:
This would be true except there is no button on the HD2 to activate video recording (at least through the default android video recording facility. I'm assuming someone is working out how to remap one of the keys whilst in this program. It will happen though.
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On the build I used, you simply press on the screen for 3 secs...
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On the build I used, you simply press on the screen for 3 secs...
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THATS ONLY FOR THE CAMERA DUDE LOL
ruscik said:
720p does mean quality will be better.
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No it doesn't.
As he mentioned, you can stretch any video source to make it 720p or even 1080p or even go to 4k if you want.
It's up to the camera sensor to fill in the extra pixels to make it a high def image, if it can't then all you're doing is making 1 pixel use 2 pixels instead.
Psygnosis84 said:
No it doesn't.
As he mentioned, you can stretch any video source to make it 720p or even 1080p or even go to 4k if you want.
It's up to the camera sensor to fill in the extra pixels to make it a high def image, if it can't then all you're doing is making 1 pixel use 2 pixels instead.
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For one pixel to be used on two is upscaling. That is a software option and our camera for now does not have it. But even if camera would only do that to 10% of the extra spaces it has to fill the quality will be much better as that still means 10% extra data captured.
Pixel size in standard and 720p resolution is not the same. If the picture will be split it will also be compressed to fit smaller pixel keeping the same ammount of data mostly (this one we will not know until we try it) so when used on bigger screens there will be mroe detail there.
It is down to sensor to pickup everything at desired resolution and as long as we do not exceed 5mp still it does. What is the problem is speed that sensor processes the information, converts it to known format, sends it and stores it.
In other words how fast is the cpu that converts it, communication with cpu and memory, plus finally speed it can save it to card.
If you have an HD camcorder get it to record stock resolution, then get a class 1 sd card and get it to record 1080p. Compare the images.
At 1080p sensor will get all the pixels but will not be able to save them and it will be similar situation to what Leo camera will do. Without trying we will not know how much. Fact that Android can record at 800x480 should say it will be better as cam was instantly capable of that.
I am not working in video industry but I do a lot of editing and video processing from my, and my friends motorcycle cameras and other action cams. I know a thing or two about videos. Sometimes you do not need much improvement in camera to see a lot improvement in quality. It is all down to how much camera can save per frame.
hi there
can any body tell me which apps are capable of taking 720p widescreen pictures
thanks
Stock camera can take 16x9 widescreen at 6mp and 2mp. 2mp is 1920x1080 (same as 1080p). You could just resize either of those to 1280x720 (same as 720p).
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AyDee said:
Stock camera can take 16x9 widescreen at 6mp and 2mp. 2mp is 1920x1080 (same as 1080p). You could just resize either of those to 1280x720 (same as 720p).
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if you select 2MP, no change in quality?
Z3US911 said:
if you select 2MP, no change in quality?
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yeah if you use 2mp that will reduce your quality but you will get a widescreen pic
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Stock camera can take 16x9 widescreen at 6mp and 2mp. 2mp is 1920x1080 (same as 1080p). You could just resize either of those to 1280x720 (same as 720p).
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Eerrmm????? How does that one work out. Surely he means he wants an app that actually takes 720p pics like the cm camera takes 1080p which I'm a bit skeptical about.
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NightStalker2011 said:
Eerrmm????? How does that one work out. Surely he means he wants an app that actually takes 720p pics like the cm camera takes 1080p which I'm a bit skeptical about.
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When they say CM has a "1080p" still camera all they mean is 1920x1080 resolution ([email protected])
I guess 1080p sounds better than 2mp so they put that
Also the "p" means progressive scan and only applies to video in this case. So it is used wrong when put in that context. There are progressively scanned jpegs as well but that is not what they are talking about here.
SO, taking a 1280x720 ("720p") picture (if there is an app that will do that) would be a lot smaller than 2mp and wouldn't hold as much detail as a resized 6mp or even 2mp. Plus I don't know an app that takes pics that size so I tried to provide a workaround.
I wonder why OP wants this anyway?
@Z3US911: You can get decent results resizing a 2mp to a smaller size depending on your subject, etc. but yes you will surely see more detail/quality with 6mp.
Yeah err.... 720P is for shooting video. You don't take a still picture in 720P that just affects the quality of the video.
the MP is what affects the still image taking. Basic thing to remember is more MP = larger picture = more detail.
With vignette app you can take 8 MP pics and you have an option to shoot in widescreen. I don't know if the picture is 720p large though. I will test this tomorrow!
Is out there any application that allows you to shoot 120 fps video?
Thanks in advance!
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dsmpampis said:
Is out there any application that allows you to shoot 120 fps video?
Thanks in advance!
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as far as i know not. there is also no 60 fps camera yet. the snapdragon 800 should be able to capture in 60 fps i think but not in 120 fps
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as far as i know not. there is also no 60 fps camera yet. the snapdragon 800 should be able to capture in 60 fps i think but not in 120 fps
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The SD 800 is able to capture 120fps at 720p (Note 3). But there is no option in N5. Maybe with an application.... That's why I'm asking...
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What are you smoking?
The CPU isn't the one capturing the video, it's the camera module and if it's not capable then the CPU doesn't matter.
Surely the CPU needs to be able to process that much information as well but the camera module is the one that has to be capable of capturing it.
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What are you smoking?
The CPU isn't the one capturing the video, it's the camera module and if it's not capable then the CPU doesn't matter.
Surely the CPU needs to be able to process that much information as well but the camera module is the one that has to be capable of capturing it.
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I don't smoking....
I think the camera is capable of shooting 120fps in lower resolution and the cpu capable of processing the image....
I think that the iPhone 5(and yes I mean 5 and not 5s)hasn't got a a better camera than the N5.
It was just questions...
Edit : I made a mistake, the iPhone 5 can capture a video with 60fps and not 120...
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See this video
I saw a video on youtube where S3 could record at 120fps by porting camera app from Note 2. So i believe it's not hardware based as S3 is a very old phone. If it can do it, sure N5 can do it easily
Since Google won't update the awful stock camera app and the quality of the pictures taken with the third party apps on the play store is garbage.
I will crop my pictures using a Photoshop Script until we get a new app or I get the HTC One+/ One 2014 , to which size should I crop my pictures to get the maximum resolution posible of photos taken with HDR+ on?
The Nexus 5 camera takes pictures with 3264x2448 and when you use HDR+ it takes slightly smaller pictures (3200x2368) native 8 MP cameras take pictures with 3008 x 2000 resolution, would it be ok if i just chop 368 pixels horizontally and 192 vertically?
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Since Google won't update the awful stock camera app and the quality of the pictures taken with the third party apps on the play store is garbage, I will crop my pictures using a Photoshop Script until we get a new app or I get the HTC One+/ One 2014 , to which size should I crop my pictures to get the maximum resolution posible of photos taken with HDR+ on? The Nexus 5 camera takes pictures with 3264x2448 and when you use HDR+ it takes slightly smaller pictures (3200x2368) native 8 MP cameras take pictures with 3008 x 2000 resolution, using my 3200x2368 pictures and cropping them to 3008 x 2000 won't slightly distort the picture?
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Cropping CUTS the image. It doesn't SQUISH it so no distortion is possible. You just wont be able to see parts of the photo you crop off.
Anyway, to get a 16:9 aspect ratio from a width of 3264, You would need to crop to a height of 1836.
4:3 means for every 4 pixels across the screen, it goes 3 pixels up the side of the screen. So if 3264 is the 4 across (3264 / 4 = 816 for each 1) then 816 * 3 = 2448
16:9 for every 16 pixels across, it goes 9 pixels up. So if 3264 is the 9 across (3264 / 16 = 204 for each 1) then 204 * 9 = 1836
Or in otherwords
Resolution is always WidthxHeight
Aspect ratio is always Width:Height
Take Resolution Width and divide it by Aspect Ratio Width to get a multiplier. Multiply the multiplier by the Aspect Ratio Height to get the resolution height.
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Cropping CUTS the image. It doesn't SQUISH it so no distortion is possible. You just wont be able to see parts of the photo you crop off.
Anyway, to get a 16:9 aspect ratio from a width of 3264, You would need to crop to a height of 1836.
4:3 means for every 4 pixels across the screen, it goes 3 pixels up the side of the screen. So if 3264 is the 4 across (3264 / 4 = 816 for each 1) then 816 * 3 = 2448
16:9 for every 16 pixels across, it goes 9 pixels up. So if 3264 is the 9 across (3264 / 16 = 204 for each 1) then 204 * 9 = 1836
Or in otherwords
Resolution is always WidthxHeight
Aspect ratio is always Width:Height
Take Resolution Width and divide it by Aspect Ratio Width to get a multiplier. Multiply the multiplier by the Aspect Ratio Height to get the resolution height.
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Had to re read what you posted hahaha :'( , but I do what aspect ratio refers to, yes silly me, the picture won't be distorted, because I'm just chopping a piece of it, what I should have asked is wether cutting it to 3008 x 2000 will give me a true 16:9 aspect ratio, I cropped a HDR+ picture (3200x2168) and I got a 3200x1800 picture
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Had to re read what you posted hahaha :'( , but I do what aspect ratio refers to, yes silly me, the picture won't be distorted, because I'm just chopping a piece of it, what I should have asked is wether cutting it to 3008 x 2000 will give me a true 16:9 aspect ratio, I cropped a HDR+ picture (3200x2168) and I got a 3200x1800 picture
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Why would you choose to crop to 3200 width? Are you using an app with presets?
3200 x 1800
16 : 9
3200 / 16 = 200
200 * 9 = 1800
So yes
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3200/16 = 200
1800/9=200
So yes
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Why would you choose to crop to 3200 width? Are you using an app with presets?
3200 x 1800
16 : 9
3200 / 16 = 200
200 * 9 = 1800
So yes
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3200/16 = 200
1800/9=200
So yes
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Yes I'm using the Photoshop presets for 16:9 , why is it a different size than the size you're talking about ?
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Yes I'm using the Photoshop presets for 16:9 , why is it a different size than the size you're talking about ?
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Ok well I can confirm, that preset is 16:9 but you're also losing some width of the photo there too. The number in my earlier response is based on the maximum width of image produced by the N5 sensor. The optimum 16:9 resolution for an image taken from the Nexus 5 is 3264x1836, however your preset isn't much smaller so its a non-issue I suppose.
Of course for anyone else reading ( @Chad_Petree knows this) it will still only display as 2mpx 1920x1080 on a HD display. A higher resolution can only be achieved on a higher than HD resolution screen or printing to poster size.
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I believe the 3200 width comes from the HDR+ photos hes taking. The pictures are reduced in size presumably to better stitch the multiple images together.
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Of course for anyone else reading ( @Chad_Petree knows this) it will still only display as 2mpx 1920x1080 on a HD display. A higher resolution can only be achieved on a higher than HD resolution screen or printing to poster size.
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Yes, by the way I'll reserve judgment until I see them, maybe they will blow me away, but all this talk about 2k screens on phones, I think it's innecesary, putting more strain on the battery, just give me a damn phone that last 24 hours with heavy use, a normal sized phone not a phablet
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I believe the 3200 width comes from the HDR+ photos hes taking. The pictures are reduced in size presumably to better stitch the multiple images together.
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That sounds like a plausible explanation, the photos taken with HDR+ are indeed a bit tinier
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I believe the 3200 width comes from the HDR+ photos hes taking. The pictures are reduced in size presumably to better stitch the multiple images together.
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yes you're right
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Yes, by the way I'll reserve judgment until I see them, maybe they will blow me away
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They won't. It is impossible for there to be any visual improvement between a 2mpx image and a 6mpx image on a 2mpx screen. In fact, since the 6mpx image has to be condensed into 2mpx, it is even possible that a 2mpx image will look better than a 6mpx image.
The only time you will get blown away with more than 2mpx is if:
1) You have a screen with more than 2mpx (4k for example)
2) You're printing the image in an enlarged format
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They won't. It is impossible for there to be any visual improvement between a 2mpx image and a 6mpx image on a 2mpx screen. In fact, since the 6mpx image has to be condensed into 2mpx, it is even possible that a 2mpx image will look better than a 6mpx image.
The only time you will get blown away with more than 2mpx is if:
1) You have a screen with more than 2mpx (4k for example)
2) You're printing the image in an enlarged format
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I was talking about 2k screens, not 2k videos on our 1080p screens, don't forget that when 1080p screens were announced we were quick to say they were gimmicks, but look how much better they look, and yes I realise that it probably has to do more with the fact that they come with new technologies and the resolution is not the main reason why they look better
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I was talking about 2k screens, not 2k videos on our 1080p screens, don't forget that when 1080p screens were announced we were quick to say they were gimmicks, but look how much better they look, and yes I realise that it probably has to do more with the fact that they come with new technologies and the resolution is not the main reason why they look better
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I'm not saying that they're a gimmick. 4k screens will become prevalent in the future. 2k seems like a pointless step to me though.
Watching a 1080 video on a 720 screen looks no better (in fact worse) than watching a 720 video on a 720 screen. The trick is, display whatever you are displaying at the native resolution for best results
...and yes, a 6mpx photo will look better than a 2mpx photo on a 2k screen. The 6mpx image will need to be condensed to fit but the 2mpx picture is a lower resolution so it will either need to be upscaled or simply not fill the screen.
However 1080 screens are 2mpx so a 2mpx photo will always look better than a 6mpx photo on the same screen because it is the native resolution of the image and screen.
So as long as you have nothing over and above 1080, a 6mpx image is pointless. That said, I prefer as full a resolution as I can get for future proofing.
I'm personally leaning towards the 1080p 60FPS video from my brief tests. It's SO smooth. I wish we had a 4K 60FPS option...
What does everyone else prefer?
I would record at 4K 30fps over 1080 60fps because 1080 60fps is blurry compared to all other modes. I personally prefer 1080 @30fps because i dont have any 4K compatible tvs or computers.
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I would record at 4K 30fps over 1080 60fps because 1080 60fps is blurry compared to all other modes. I personally prefer 1080 @30fps because i dont have any 4K compatible tvs or computers.
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I dont either but its considerably sharper on my screens and allows for zooming
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I would record at 4K 30fps over 1080 60fps because 1080 60fps is blurry compared to all other modes. I personally prefer 1080 @30fps because i dont have any 4K compatible tvs or computers.
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I've never noticed blur. Did you notice on the phone or when viewed on a larger screen?
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I dont either but its considerably sharper on my screens and allows for zooming
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I didn't know that.. I'll have to test the zoom.
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I've never noticed blur. Did you notice on the phone or when viewed on a larger screen?
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On the phone for sure, I haven't looked on a larger screen lately as I sent my phone to google on an RMA. I get the new device in a day or so so I'll have to look then.
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I didn't know that.. I'll have to test the zoom.
On the phone for sure, I haven't looked on a larger screen lately as I sent my phone to google on an RMA. I get the new device in a day or so so I'll have to look then.
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I do lol thats why I use 4k cuz i can zoom without messing up the video quality
Either way, 60fps makes me want to barf and looks too fake. Like when people use the 120fps filter on their TV's. I think with free storage, may as well use 4k @ 30. Although, I feel the image stabilization is stronger @ 1080