Hello XDA Devs,
I am considering next to buy a tablet..
I am restricted to buy either the Tab 3 8.0 (Samsung) or the LG G Pad 8.0 LTE...
I've compared the two CPU's (Snapdragon vs Exynos) and I see Exynos is better but what about with the ram and the overall performance?
What about the software each of the device offers?
If you any of you had these devices I would be more than thankful if you could address some of the issues you had or tell me anything about the device..
I hope I didn't post this on a wrong forum
Thanks everyone
My personal advice regarding the 'Galaxy tab x' series when it comes to performance is very simple: DON'T.
The Tab 3 is a low-end device
Exynos is NEVER better. Always get a Snapdragon, if you can. The CPU in the Tab 3 is a Dualcore, as opposed to LG's Quadcore.
(I'm normally very positive about Samsung, but the Tab x series is absolute rubbish. The Tab Pro and Tab S series are the High-end line ups.)
I don't have personal experience with the Pad 8.0, only the 8.3. Just felt I should warn you about the Tab 3. I do own that one, it's slow as hell.
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ShadowLea said:
My personal advice regarding the 'Galaxy tab x' series when it comes to performance is very simple: DON'T.
The Tab 3 is a low-end device
Exynos is NEVER better. Always get a Snapdragon, if you can. The CPU in the Tab 3 is a Dualcore, as opposed to LG's Quadcore.
(I'm normally very positive about Samsung, but the Tab x series is absolute rubbish. The Tab Pro and Tab S series are the High-end line ups.)
I don't have personal experience with the Pad 8.0, only the 8.3. Just felt I should warn you about the Tab 3. I do own that one, it's slow as hell.
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Thank you...
I might go with the LG then
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Hello,
Have the opportunity to buy a 4 day old second hand galaxy plus for about the price of an galaxy tab 2. The specs on the 7 plus are the "plus" over the tab 2, but the plus still runs on honeycomb 3.0. My phone runs the ics and i'm very happy about ics.
Is the 7 plus a good investment, (will it get the ics one day), or would the tab 2 with the "lesser" specs would be the better buy in the dev support department?
Wich one should you choose over the other and why?
Thanks for the input,
Adam
Forgot to mention, it is the P6210 model (wifi + IR, no 3G).
Is it the same as the P6200 model for rooting the device? Is it possible to use a P6200 rom on the P6210? Am i correct that the p6200 has more dev support than the P6210?
This to keep the change on ics as open as possible.
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Hello,
Have the opportunity to buy a 4 day old second hand galaxy plus for about the price of an galaxy tab 2. The specs on the 7 plus are the "plus" over the tab 2, but the plus still runs on honeycomb 3.0. My phone runs the ics and i'm very happy about ics.
Is the 7 plus a good investment, (will it get the ics one day), or would the tab 2 with the "lesser" specs would be the better buy in the dev support department?
Wich one should you choose over the other and why?
Thanks for the input,
Adam
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Wish I have gotten Tab 2! I don't see there much hype about Tab Plus here in XDA
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maruf010 said:
Wish I have gotten Tab 2! I don't see there much hype about Tab Plus here in XDA
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The only hype I've seen from the Tab 2 is the cheap price. 8GB with roughly 4GB free is a joke. Not to mention VGA front camera, less HP and unusable SD storage because of ICS. Great Deal!
mcfanman said:
The only hype I've seen from the Tab 2 is the cheap price. 8GB with roughly 4GB free is a joke. Not to mention VGA front camera, less HP and unusable SD storage because of ICS. Great Deal!
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Thank you. The biggest thing about this forum is that there are PLENTY of users that are happy, XDA is just where the whiners come out in force.
The Plus is far and away a better device, and the ICS bruhaha is simply temporary.
robyr said:
Thank you. The biggest thing about this forum is that there are PLENTY of users that are happy, XDA is just where the whiners come out in force.
The Plus is far and away a better device, and the ICS bruhaha is simply temporary.
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+1
+1 for the Tab 7 plus which I bought.
Far better specs than the Tab2 IMHO . the Exynos processor is great. Agree with the comments on the remaning space left onthe Tab2. 2M front camera on the plus is actually pretty good in comparison.
Just watch out for wifi. On tab plus a few folks have had issues with wifi (me included, but only @ work, so less of an issue for me) no idea whether that's fixed on the ICS build for the Tab 2, but poss something to think about.
I'd still go for the Tab 7 Plus personally.
still undecided, but thanks for the input!
maybe ill jump to an 10" instead
crabe919 said:
still undecided, but thanks for the input!
maybe ill jump to an 10" instead
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Check out the GT 8.9 if you get a chance, also very solid!
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The GTab 2 has an OMAP 4430 which is also used in Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet. I have the Kindle Fire which is a decent performer, but in terms of graphics performance, the GTab Plus with Exynos chip and Mali400 GPU really blows the SGX 540 @ 300 MHz of the OMAP 4430 away.
Yes they both play 1080p videos smoothly - downloaded H.264 or DIVX videos, or Adobe Flash in the browser (NOT through youtube app). However, GTab+ has superior browser experience - webpages load much quicker (eg. website pictures and text are ready for viewing much earlier when it is waiting for Adobe flash ads to load). Drag to view different parts of the webpage and pinch-zooming is buttery smooth in the GTab+ and stuttery in the Kindle Fire. Maybe it cannot all be blamed on the processor - maybe Honeycomb on the GTab+ helps because KF has Gingerbread. I am not into games but I expect the GTab+ should also perform better than the OMAP4430.
IMO, it is worth spending $50 more for the GTab+ than the GTab2 (yes I waited for the price drop to buy my GTab+)
Samsung Galaxy S IV specs, granted its only a rumor...
http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/18/samsung-galaxy-s-iv-early-rumor-roundup-8-core-exynos-5-proc-5-440ppi-display-wireless-charging/
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Samsung Galaxy S IV specs, granted its only a rumor...
http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/18/samsung-galaxy-s-iv-early-rumor-roundup-8-core-exynos-5-proc-5-440ppi-display-wireless-charging/
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No doubt. It's newer technology, but it doesn't matter if you OWNED BOTH
raishiro said:
Samsung Galaxy S IV specs, granted its only a rumor...
http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/18/samsung-galaxy-s-iv-early-rumor-roundup-8-core-exynos-5-proc-5-440ppi-display-wireless-charging/
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If your penis is so small you need to compare a phone with your tablet.
Yes, then you got beaten.
I for my part never understood why anyone would need that power in a phone.
Okay maybe some people like to charge their device twice a day...
I laugh at everyone that say they are going to wait for the "ultimate phone".
You might as well just never buy a phone then, since not even 6-months later something WILL be better then what you have.
The only thing lately that hasn't been changing so fast in the tech world has been TV and Desktop computer parts.
My SLI GTX 580 setup (which is coming close to 3 years old), is just as fast as a single GTX680, if not faster in some cases!
raishiro said:
Samsung Galaxy S IV specs, granted its only a rumor...
http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/18/samsung-galaxy-s-iv-early-rumor-roundup-8-core-exynos-5-proc-5-440ppi-display-wireless-charging/
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The note 2 already surpassed it in performance. I have both and I love my TF, but the performance of the note 2 is considerably better.
Beyond that the DNA(though I'll never buy HTC again) surpasses even the note 2 in performance.
I-Dig!
WOW... You said it all! Good one...
You will most likley pay 600.00 and a 40 year service contract wid the carrier.
Lets see, hmm, how long is my service contract with the TF700t... Oh yeah I don't have one.....
DarsVaeda said:
If your penis is so small you need to compare a phone with your tablet.
Yes, then you got beaten.
I for my part never understood why anyone would need that power in a phone.
Okay maybe some people like to charge their device twice a day...
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The Galaxy S4's specs are just speculation, but I am sure most of us here know that there are many devices that are CURRENTLY available on the market that can easily surpass the tf700 just by comparing specs. Tegra 3 was already outdated the moment the Galaxy S3 was announced. Just to name a few, any devices with Snapdragon S4 Pro and Exynos 5 (LG Optimus G, LG Nexus 4, HTC Droid DNA, J Butterfly, Galaxy S3, Note 2, Note 10.1, etc...) will surely give you better performance (both overall and graphical performance) than any Tegra 3-powered devices (including the tf700).
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The Galaxy S4's specs are just speculation, but I am sure most of us here know that there are many devices that are CURRENTLY available on the market that can easily surpass the tf700 just by comparing specs. Tegra 3 was already outdated the moment the Galaxy S3 was announced. Just to name a few, any devices with Snapdragon S4 Pro and Exynos 5 (LG Optimus G, LG Nexus 4, HTC Droid DNA, J Butterfly, Galaxy S3, Note 2, Note 10.1, etc...) will surely give you better performance (both overall and graphical performance) than any Tegra 3-powered devices (including the tf700).
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all the samsung/exynos devices you mention there are Exynos 4 devices and those have the Cortex a9 cores as Tegra3, i guess gpu wise the Exynos 4 mali 400 could be faster
And if we speak now of a new 8 core exynos then i guess we also should speak that we have a 5 core A9 in our system!! the Exynos 4 of the Galaxy S3 is only a 4 core...
But thats all crap and marketing the Exynos 5 Octa is just a quad core you system/os will never see 8 cores only 4 just as we see only 4 and not 5
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I for my part never understood why anyone would need that power in a phone.
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I remember people saying that about 1ghz phones. Then dual core phones. In 6 to 12 months quad core phones will be the norm and someone will undoubtedly say "There is no need for 8 cores in a mobile device".
pileot said:
I remember people saying that about 1ghz phones. Then dual core phones. In 6 to 12 months quad core phones will be the norm and someone will undoubtedly say "There is no need for 8 cores in a mobile device".
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it will be a while before we get real 8 cores in mobile devices..
even the next arm chip: http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a50/cortex-a57-processor.php
is designed to be a quadcore setup in single processor (they do support clusters of those again but i guess thats for servers)
And we only get now the A15, Nexus 10" being the first, no phones yet.
jcompagner said:
all the samsung/exynos devices you mention there are Exynos 4 devices and those have the Cortex a9 cores as Tegra3, i guess gpu wise the Exynos 4 mali 400 could be faster
And if we speak now of a new 8 core exynos then i guess we also should speak that we have a 5 core A9 in our system!! the Exynos 4 of the Galaxy S3 is only a 4 core...
But thats all crap and marketing the Exynos 5 Octa is just a quad core you system/os will never see 8 cores only 4 just as we see only 4 and not 5
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Oops, I was thinking about the Nexus 10 when I was talking about Exynos 5. You're right, it should be Exynos 4 instead. Nevertheless, it does not change my point about Tegra 3's being outdated. For instance, when it comes to memory performance, Tegra 3 only has single channel memory controller as opposed to dual channels found in almost anything else (from Apple, Qualcomm to Samsung), a fact that is readily taken advantage of by Amazon when they introduced the Kindle Fire HD (TI OMAP 4 vs Tegra 3). Overall, if you follow articles on Anandtech about mobile SoCs, Exynos 4 gives you much better performance and more power efficient.
I was not aware of any sort of competition...
ShadowLea said:
I was not aware of any sort of competition...
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Apparently you don't attend the annual Mai Cawk convention.....
hx4700 Killer said:
Apparently you don't attend the annual Mai Cawk convention.....
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I'm a woman.
There are two types of electronic devices, experimental and obsolete. If you always waited for the next great thing you'd still be using a rotary dial phone.
gottahavit said:
The note 2 already surpassed it in performance. I have both and I love my TF, but the performance of the note 2 is considerably better.
Beyond that the DNA(though I'll never buy HTC again) surpasses even the note 2 in performance.
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haha true. Quad core exynos is very snappy. Games are smooth and had the better effects. ie. blurr effect on Nova 3, Modern combat 4. I havent felt the need to do anything to it besides root. My s3 now seems so outdated lol.
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haha true. Quad core exynos is very snappy. Games are smooth and had the better effects. ie. blurr effect on Nova 3, Modern combat 4. I havent felt the need to do anything to it besides root. My s3 now seems so outdated lol.
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Eh? The S3 has an Exynos Quad Core.... The one in the Note2 is 0.2ghz faster, but that's it.
Unless you're unlucky enough to be American, of course.
ShadowLea said:
Eh? The S3 has an Exynos Quad Core.... The one in the Note2 is 0.2ghz faster, but that's it.
Unless you're unlucky enough to be American, of course.
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Haha ya American version s3 here.
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It got beaten by more than one phone, all quad core krait phones and the note II
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ray3andrei said:
It got beaten by more than one phone, all quad core krait phones and the note II
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Unless you start looking at the screen resolution, of course. Any Gamer knows that a lower resolution uses less resources, and thus gives more frames per second.
Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 Spec
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_2_10_1_p5100-4567.php
Toshiba Excite 10.1 SE Spec
http://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_excite_10_se-5154.php
Looks like toshiba has much more superior specs than tab 10.1 since the galaxy tab 10.1 is 1ghz dual core and toshiba is 1.5 ghz tegra 3 quad core.
only problem is bootloader for toshiba excite 10.1 se is locked while its open on galaxy tab 10.1...
because of that im not sure which to pick... spec wise the toshiba seems by far superior but in actual day to day performance if say compared with a galaxy tab 10.1 rooted smooth optimised custom rom vs stock android toshiba excite 10.1 se... which one would have better performance?
and which one do you recon would have better battery life?
I wanna get all and any other xda peoples opinions on this ?? I posted in this thread because there isn't even a excite 10.1 thread on xda ..??
BY THE WAY --- im getting one of these free from my university and I have to choose which one so telling me other tablet options will be meaningless in my situation---
Go with the gtab 2
djsynth said:
Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 Spec
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_2_10_1_p5100-4567.php
Toshiba Excite 10.1 SE Spec
http://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_excite_10_se-5154.php
Looks like toshiba has much more superior specs than tab 10.1 since the galaxy tab 10.1 is 1ghz dual core and toshiba is 1.5 ghz tegra 3 quad core.
only problem is bootloader for toshiba excite 10.1 se is locked while its open on galaxy tab 10.1...
because of that im not sure which to pick... spec wise the toshiba seems by far superior but in actual day to day performance if say compared with a galaxy tab 10.1 rooted smooth optimised custom rom vs stock android toshiba excite 10.1 se... which one would have better performance?
and which one do you recon would have better battery life?
I wanna get all and any other xda peoples opinions on this ?? I posted in this thread because there isn't even a excite 10.1 thread on xda ..??
BY THE WAY --- im getting one of these free from my university and I have to choose which one so telling me other tablet options will be meaningless in my situation---
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I would say go with the gtab 2. If your gonna be into flashing roms to it and such this will have many more options for that stuff. For battery life i can go a long time without charging my tablet. the gtab 2 will probably have a little bit better battery life.
If you don't want custom roms you should get the toshiba.
I've got a Tab 2 and am growing tired of the lag even using the basic function such as web browsing (running stock or rooted/CM10.1). I don't want to completely jump from the Samsung ship (I have an iPad 2 already) and wanted to know how the Tab 2 stacked up against the much higher spec'd Note 10.1 but can't find any direct comparisons on here or online.
My question is whether the the Note 10.1 is WAY better/faster/smoother/more lag free than the Tab 2. From the spec's I know it should be but I'm interested in real world first hand experience of anyone who's got or used both.
There is a lag in the GT2? Hmm didn't notice that... But since I want 4G LTE on my tab, there isn't a lot of choices...
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I've got a Tab 2 and am growing tired of the lag even using the basic function such as web browsing (running stock or rooted/CM10.1). I don't want to completely jump from the Samsung ship (I have an iPad 2 already) and wanted to know how the Tab 2 stacked up against the much higher spec'd Note 10.1 but can't find any direct comparisons on here or online.
My question is whether the the Note 10.1 is WAY better/faster/smoother/more lag free than the Tab 2. From the spec's I know it should be but I'm interested in real world first hand experience of anyone who's got or used both.
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I actually have both and there is a significant difference but that is because the note 10.1 has a quad core processor and 2gb of ram vs galaxy tab 2 which is dual core 1Ghz with 1 GB of ram. I noticed it more on touchwiz but after I got pacman ROM and over clocked it to 1.5 GHz its working pretty smooth. I can even play some high quality games without lag. So I guess the only way to actually get it to be smooth is on an aosp ROM and over clocking it to 1.4 just to be safe
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I actually have both and there is a significant difference but that is because the note 10.1 has a quad core processor and 2gb of ram vs galaxy tab 2 which is dual core 1Ghz with 1 GB of ram.
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Thanks, that's the info I was after and is what I'd suspected. I'd much rather run vanilla and unrooted tbh. I bought an iPad and whilst it was a restrictive OS I liked the smoothness so subsequently really enjoyed the freedom of not having to mess around with Rom's trying to smooth things out as I'd tried before with an original Xoom.
So do you see any lag at all using the Note? Things like pinch-zooming on the web, flicking between apps etc?
Actually there is something that gets lost in the details and blogs, the real answer is..it depends. Not all Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 devices are the same. The ATT Variant actually comes with a Dual Core 1.5 GHZ S4 Krait, basically the same chips inside of the US S3s, which makes for a very very very snappy package. If you are looking at a 1.0 GHZ model, meeh, but if you happen to come across a newer carrier model, TMobile, ATT, etc, they are an order of magnitude faster than the stock 10.1 Tab 2.
This is regarding the Samsung galaxy Tab 4 7.0
there are 2 variant of this
Samsung SM-T231
Samsung SM-T235
(unable to post gsmarena links due limitations)
Im more concerned about the gpus Vivante GC1000 and mali-400mp4
4g dosnt really matter since i will be using wifi
Which is better for gaming or just overall performance ? (i know this is not a high end device)
Usually games like bravefrontier, phantom of the kill, emulators (gba, snes and psp if possible)
i was able to use the SMT230 version felt fluid on the surface
is the lg g pad 8.3 worth getting even if its a bit more pricey than this (not really a fan of the UI as well) ?
thank you in advance
Dont go for both of them.. i got a mali 400 GPu its shi.... get some more money and buy a better one whit snapdragon
The Tab 4 is, like its predecessors, a low-end product. Low specs. Do not waste your money on it.
Mali (and Exynos) isn't suited for gaming, the other even less so.
Go for something with a Snapdragon&Adreno combination. Like the 4G editions of the Tab S or Tab Pro tablets. (Yes, more expensive. With good reason...)
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You will find lots of opinions in our dedicated "What should I buy" thread here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
I will close this one. Ask in that thread and you'll find advice. :good:
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