Hi guys, my new Z3 has just arrived today and I am looking to remove the bloat. I went to the Sony site to unlock my bootloader but aparently it cannot be unlocked (using service menu to check). I am new to Sony products, does this mean I will never be able to unlock my bootloader? Is this caused by a hardware difference?
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damonsmith666 said:
Hi guys, my new Z3 has just arrived today and I am looking to remove the bloat. I went to the Sony site to unlock my bootloader but aparently it cannot be unlocked (using service menu to check). I am new to Sony products, does this mean I will never be able to unlock my bootloader? Is this caused by a hardware difference?
Thanks
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Plenty about this on the forums already.
If service menu says "bootloader unlock allowed: no"
You can't do anything.
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My Z3 is D6653 android 4.4.4 build 23.0.A.2.108
i have unlock boot b4.. after than i was lock it back to restore back original ...but now i wan unlock back it not working d
just show me the error have rooted is that only can unlock one time???after lock back its not working any more??
Can someone clearify to me what i lose or what dont work if i unlock my bootloader and root my Z3... Some camera elements dont work? I lose TA and DRM things? What else? Now i have rooted Note 4 without losing anything (okay, Knox but i dont even need it) but i havent never unlock Sony Xperia Devices and i can't live without root.
I just received my Sony D6603 Xperia Z3 from my carrier which is Rogers. Is there a way to fully unlock the device as if it was purchased as an unlocked version? I've tried searching for answers, but only came up with how to unlock the bootloader and rooting instructions. Unless, if by doing those methods, will fully unlock my device including SIM lock. Any help and insight would be greatly appreciated.
Depending on Roger's terms you should be able to have them unlock it. Appears you have to wait 90 days though.
http://www.rogers.com/web/support/wireless/unlock/733?setLanguage=en
Loving this one:
Why do I have to wait 90 days before I can unlock my device?
Your device has been optimized for use on the Rogers network. You may find that some settings or features do not function properly once the device is unlocked and in use with another carrier's SIM card. We want to ensure that you've had the chance to experience the full capabilities of your device on the Rogers network before making the decision to unlock.
Rooting and bootloader unlock will make no difference to SIM unlock.
The two issues are separate.
gregbradley said:
Rooting and bootloader unlock will make no difference to SIM unlock.
The two issues are separate.
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If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
Flava0ne said:
If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
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Once your device is sim free (using code) it will remain unlocked no matter what you do
Flava0ne said:
If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
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Please re-read what I said. Bootloader unlock and SIM unlock are two separate things. One does not affect the other. It does not matter what you do to one it will not change the status of the other.
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Please re-read what I said. Bootloader unlock and SIM unlock are two separate things. One does not affect the other. It does not matter what you do to one it will not change the status of the other.
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Yes, I understood what you said. What I meant was, when or if I get Rogers to unlock my device, unless they're only unlocking the SIM on it, hopefully I'll be able to unlock the bootloader as if I originally purchased it unlocked to begin with. Because when I checked my device's service menu, the status on the bootloader is that it cannot be unlocked using Sony's official method. If I had purchased an unlocked device instead of getting it through Rogers, the bootloader unlockable status would be different, correct?
When I get home, I'll try and see if I can still unlock the bootloader un-officially using Flashtool, unless for some reason that method won't work at all and my bootloader will not be able to be unlocked at all currently.
Edit: All I basically want to accomplish in my new device is to have root access to it. My previous device was an Xperia PLAY which was also purchased originally locked from Rogers. But after fully unlocking it using the Omnius client, I was able to unlock it's bootloader, flash DooMLorD's kernel and get root access to it. Because all the tutorials I've found on how to access root on the Xperia Z3 involves having the bootloader unlocked.
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Yes, I understood what you said. What I meant was, when or if I get Rogers to unlock my device, unless they're only unlocking the SIM on it, hopefully I'll be able to unlock the bootloader as if I originally purchased it unlocked to begin with. Because when I checked my device's service menu, the status on the bootloader is that it cannot be unlocked using Sony's official method. If I had purchased an unlocked device instead of getting it through Rogers, the bootloader unlockable status would be different, correct?
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Probably, but some carrier free devices come with a boot that cannot be unlocked and some devices that are from a carrier can be unlocked. SIM free or SIM locked does not imply the bootloader can or cannot be unlocked.
When I get home, I'll try and see if I can still unlock the bootloader un-officially using Flashtool, unless for some reason that method won't work at all and my bootloader will not be able to be unlocked at all currently.
Edit: All I basically want to accomplish in my new device is to have root access to it. My previous device was an Xperia PLAY which was also purchased originally locked from Rogers. But after fully unlocking it using the Omnius client, I was able to unlock it's bootloader, flash DooMLorD's kernel and get root access to it. Because all the tutorials I've found on how to access root on the Xperia Z3 involves having the bootloader unlocked.
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There is no unofficial bootloader unlock for this device. Its done through sony's official method or not at all.
If Rodgers unlocks the sim for you it will not affect the status of the bootloader at all, unless you ask them to do it and they agree.
To get root access you do not need to be SIM unlocked. The only way to gain root acces on the Z3 currently is to unlock the bootloader, which you cannot do even if Rodgers SIM unlock it
The xperia play is a legacy device and there were unofficial ways to unlock the bootloader. That has not been the case with all new phones for a couple of years now. I believe (Correct me if I am wrong) that the xperia NEO was one of the last to come with an unofficial unlock (The test point method). My old Xperia T was one of the first to come that had no unofficial unlock and the only way to do it was via Sonys unlock site.
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Probably, but some carrier free devices come with a boot that cannot be unlocked and some devices that are from a carrier can be unlocked. SIM free or SIM locked does not imply the bootloader can or cannot be unlocked.
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That's something I didn't know, I've always thought that when you purchase an unlocked Android device that the bootloader would be unlockable, good to know!
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If Rodgers unlocks the sim for you it will not affect the status of the bootloader at all, unless you ask them to do it and they agree.
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So they can apparently change the unlock-able status of the bootloader themselves?
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The xperia play is a legacy device and there were unofficial ways to unlock the bootloader. That has not been the case with all new phones for a couple of years now. I believe (Correct me if I am wrong) that the xperia NEO was one of the last to come with an unofficial unlock (The test point method). My old Xperia T was one of the first to come that had no unofficial unlock and the only way to do it was via Sonys unlock site.
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So basically, unlocking Sony devices unofficially, stopped around the same time Sony Ericsson became only Sony?
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That's something I didn't know, I've always thought that when you purchase an unlocked Android device that the bootloader would be unlockable, good to know!
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So they can apparently change the unlock-able status of the bootloader themselves?
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Yes, there have been some posts that some people have managed to do this with some carriers, but I am very sceptical as to this actually happening.
So basically, unlocking Sony devices unofficially, stopped around the same time Sony Ericsson became only Sony?
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That may be coincidence, I believe that Sony made a tactical decision to stop unofficial methods by allowing some devices to be unlocked officially. This saw an almost immediate stop in devs working on unofficial unlocks as you could always get hold of a device that could be unlocked officially and for free. They basically took the need of an unofficial unlock out of the equation.
If Rogers could do that, it really makes me wonder what kind of tool/program that they use to accomplish this.
Probably something similar to Emma or just fastboot and adb. I really do not know that. The problem is they know the keys, without them it needs a good dev to find a vulnerability and write an exploit. That takes time and skill. And since there is an official method there seems no need to spend that time, as people with that skill just get themselves devices which can be unlocked
My 3rd day now with my new Z3 and I'm really missing having root access.
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Will SIM unlocking allow you to delete the Rogers apps?
Also, I noticed my phone doesn't let me hide apps, though most people seem to have that option... is that a Rogers thing or is there something wrong with my device?
Sim unlock has nothing to do with root, so sim unlocking will not give you the ability to remove system apps.
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Will SIM unlocking allow you to delete the Rogers apps?
Also, I noticed my phone doesn't let me hide apps, though most people seem to have that option... is that a Rogers thing or is there something wrong with my device?
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What i have done already to my device as soon as i got it, before even turning it on for the first time, was use Flashtool and flashed it with the Global Generic Firmware to get rid of the Rogers branding on it. I was able to disable most of the built in bloatware that originally comes with it.
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What i have done already to my device as soon as i got it, before even turning it on for the first time, was use Flashtool and flashed it with the Global Generic Firmware to get rid of the Rogers branding on it. I was able to disable most of the built in bloatware that originally comes with it.
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Will doing so essentially wipe my phone? Unfortunately I've already downloaded all my apps/customized it how I want otherwise, so I'd like to avoid that if possible. Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, I'm new to Android.
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Will doing so essentially wipe my phone? Unfortunately I've already downloaded all my apps/customized it how I want otherwise, so I'd like to avoid that if possible. Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, I'm new to Android.
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Not if you tick the box to exclude data on flashtool when you flash it
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Not if you tick the box to exclude data on flashtool when you flash it
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Is there some sort of beginners guide/explanation/walkthrough you can point me towards? I've never had an Android before, so I have no idea what I'm doing and I don't want to screw anything up.
Hi there.
I have an Xperia E1 from o2. I've already rooted it but when it comes to the bootloader, it says: bootloader unlock allowed: no.
Is there any way to unlock the bootloader so I can install a custom rom?
Thanks.
If I recall correctly, once you have obtained the network unlock code to allow any operators sim card to work in your device, you can contact Sony and in some instances they will arrange for it to be collected and returned with an unlockable bootloader.
However were possible it's always best to buy a phone off network as they come network unlocked, bootloader unlock allowed yes along with a bloat ware free rom.
Ive found on few sites that my Sony Xperia M2 D2303 with Kitkat should be 18.3.C.0.37 but mine software version is 18.3.1.C.0.21.
Why is it like this? Is there something wrong with my device, is it fully updated to last software version or not?
Also ive checked bootloader unlock status and it says Not allowed.
In the official Sony site ive seen a text that says: "Important note! In order to unlock your Xperia™ M2 you need to be on software version 18.3.C.0.37." - which is different then mine.
I also checked for any updates but there is nonne showing in my sony app.
How can i solve this?
Thanks in advance.
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Ive found on few sites that my Sony Xperia M2 D2303 with Kitkat should be 18.3.C.0.37 but mine software version is 18.3.1.C.0.21.
Why is it like this? Is there something wrong with my device, is it fully updated to last software version or not?
Also ive checked bootloader unlock status and it says Not allowed.
In the official Sony site ive seen a text that says: "Important note! In order to unlock your Xperia™ M2 you need to be on software version 18.3.C.0.37." - which is different then mine.
I also checked for any updates but there is nonne showing in my sony app.
How can i solve this?
Thanks in advance.
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Different terms, different topics.
Let's see, .21 build version number means 4.4.4 KitKat (most updated version of KitKat).
If the unlock allowed device says No, it means you have the SIM Locked, so, you need to contact your carrier provider in order to unlock it and change the status to "yes", so, you could unlock your bootloader without any troubles in the process
Official Sony says you need to be in 4.4.2 or higher build number version, it's not stated you need to be in .37 build number.
Note: 4.4.2 (is precisely .37 build number, but, still .21 or higher works fine with the unlocking).
Regards!
i know its a bit turn off the topic, but while im still here let me ask - Does anyone know is Lolipop gonna come out for M2 or not?
There have been many different statements about this so id like to know once for all, is it or not?
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i know its a bit turn off the topic, but while im still here let me ask - Does anyone know is Lolipop gonna come out for M2 or not?
There have been many different statements about this so id like to know once for all, is it or not?
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No. It ain't confirmed yet. In some point might show up for our device. But right now there's no confirmation. Just OmniROM, CyanogenMod 12 and FXP AOSP.
If your bootloader unlock allowed says no. Then there is nothing you can do to unlock it. Not even network unlocking your phone will change that. To get bootloader unlock allowed yes buy sim free unlocked device. Most carriers lock down bootloaders hope this answers your questions
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aidy.luca[email protected] said:
If your bootloader unlock allowed says no. Then there is nothing you can do to unlock it. Not even network unlocking your phone will change that. To get bootloader unlock allowed yes buy sim free unlocked device. Most carriers lock down bootloaders hope this answers your questions
sent from my Rooted B/l 4.4.4 kk Xperia D2303
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But ive hear many times people are "decoding" their phones in order to get SIM free device, why cant i do it?
And is there a way to root my device without unlocking bootloader?
To root you need to search on here plenty of easy to follow tutorials on how to root for locked and unlocked bootloaders.
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If your bootloader unlock allowed says no. Then there is nothing you can do to unlock it. Not even network unlocking your phone will change that. To get bootloader unlock allowed yes buy sim free unlocked device. Most carriers lock down bootloaders hope this answers your questions
sent from my Rooted B/l 4.4.4 kk Xperia D2303
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Under what assumptions you say that? Topics before some guy said that he unlocked its device changing the status of its SIMLock with some code to unlock it. The carrier locks down your phone via SIM, but it doesn't mean you can't unlock it forever. If you "free" it, the problem must be solved. The guy I'm talkin' about, unlock two devices using the same method I'm sayin' here, and the two of them went fine. So, just try. The carrier shouldn't show any troubles in order to disable the SIMLock, it's your right, in fact.