I'm sure a lot of you have thought this over so i wanted to get your opinions.
The other day I was telling a friend about a phone with a 5+ inch screen and got to thinking (I love big screens, cant stand less than 3")... At what point should a person just buy a netbook with a 3g card and use VOIP on a bluetooth headset? I mean, my wife has a MSI Wind and honestly It is small enough I could carry it almost everywhere with me. It also cost less than my phone!!!!. The Wind isn't even one of the smaller ones. It has a 10.2 screen. Look at this one though http://gizmodo.com/5084147/umids-mini-netbook-makes-eees-look-massive (they should have made the screen wider but I guess they were trying to use off the shelf parts to keep it cheap).
I think the lines are definitely blurring and I honestly cant decide what to do for my next phone. A netbook with a 3g router is sounding very tempting. What thoughts do you guys have? or do you plan to just buy both lol.
I'd draw the line where you'd feel like a tit holding a netbook against your head tbh. Phones are for making phonecalls remember
Smartphone's are going to die out soon. Why do I need a Touch HD AND a netbook? I don't, I need a littlebitty Nokia that only phones and texts - discuss...
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it´s true that you can carry them, but even little notebooks can´t be put inside your pants pockets...yet....
It's about convergence, having one device that does it all.
I still see idiots carrying a cellphone, an ipod, and a notebook. And they use the phone to go online with their notebooks via 3G.
I just have my i780 and the extra battery pack (i780s come with an extra batt with a stand alone charger case).. and oh yeah.. I also use it for GPS navigation.
Go for one device that can do it all. Though your need for a big screen will be the deciding factor.
Personally i have all three and carry two, Trinity and iPod, on a regular basis as the battery in my Trinity struggles to last all day sometimes when i am reading and replying to mail let alone trying to listen to music as well. Also my iPod is big enough to hold my entire library so there's no "wish i had that with me today" moments. The notebook is for computing somewhere at a desk/table that isn't my own, usually my parents or friends, and as such usually hooks to their WiFi.
You don't stick the netbook to your ear you use a bluetooth headset. Also some of these netbooks are getting small enough to stick in your pocket! Look at the one I linked.
Battery life would be an issue though. My wifes Wind lasts about 45 mins on battery. Those reviews that claim 2.5 hours are BS. Maybe if you turn the screen on super dim, wifi / bluetooth off, switch on econo-mode and read an ebook. In an even smaller netbook with about the same guts I bet battery life would be horrid.
For me this is the limit line between lap top and phone
I still think we might see a movement away from big phones, or people using two devices but not concurrently. For business use a decent netbook with 3G and bluetooth headset would be ideal, providing someone can actually one day make a battery that lasts a whole day yet doesn't have to be on wheels.
However, as useful as that'd be in work, it's not really a solution for how do I phone my missus to tell her I need to come home from the pub?
So I think a big device (with 3G or similar) for work and a small/tiny device (with radio and nothing else) for play/always. Aren't we at the point of a Bluetooth sized headset that has a phone in it? Or a comedy sized watch - aren't LG launching one soon?
The laptop would need to remain on (idling) the whole time, and they're just not designed for that today. In the end, having a laptop with 3G inside and a bluetooth "phone" or having a basic 3G phone and a laptop is not so different... you always need both parts.
I'm also using both a trinity and a Gigabeat F40. I just don't have the same response quickness, autonomy and storage on my trinity. So unless we get a pdaphone with a real battery life (something like 10 hours under heavy use), with 64GB of storage (it should arrive soon enough) and that doesn't struggle to playback a mp3 while surfing the net, I won't leave my loyal mp3 player at home.
I guess that 1 year from now I may find an appropriate device on the market.
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Hi all,
I wonder if anyone else has had similar problems with their Rafael or has any suggestions...
I first got my Rafael (a stock O2 (UK) XDA Serra) back in February. At that time the battery was lasting about a day and a half between charges which was comparable with my previous Artemis (XDA Orbit). This is with my normal use.
About 6 weeks later the phone was needing recharged after about 5 hours of my normal use. The location I was using the phone hadn't changed, so this can't be put down to signal strength meaning the phone is using more power to compensate. My usage hadn't changed either, and I had not instaled any software that ran up the GPS in the background or anything that woudl cause extra drain.
One thing I did notice before I sent the phone back to O2 for repair was that occasionally I would take the phone from my pocket and the screen would be on, an app would have launched (like SMS or email or something) and the text entry area would be full of a repeated character. So the phone had obviously woken up from standby in my pocket.
The phone (and bettery) went back for repair and came back with a note saying that the fault had been found and repaired - unfortunately it didn't say what the fault was that had been found.
For a few weeks the phone seemed a bit better, but now about 3 weeks later it's doing it again.
Yesterday the phone was left in standby and not used at all. From full charge and just taken off the charger, the battery was dead within about 5 hours!
The waking up issue is a bit more than just inadvertantly touching the power button. I now have the phone in the supplied case/cover the other way around which protects the power button more meaning that I can't switch it on by accident. But sometimes I take the phone out and its on as before.
Even more odd is that sometimes if I pick the phone up of my desk by the sides (ie fingers nowhere near the power button) it switches on. And if I have used the phone and switch it back to standby and go to put the phone down, sometimes it wakes up again before I have managed to put it down...
A soft reset seesm to cure the waking up problem for a while, but after a few hours it seems to come back.
Obviously the phone waking up will cause extra battery drain, and that would mean the two are related or even the same problem. But does anyone have any idea what it could be and why a soft reset seems to sort the problem? Has anyone else seen this problem?
Obvisouly a battery life of just a few hours means this is not such a mobile device anymore!
Cheers,
FM
Update:
I sent the phone back for repair (to O2 UK) and they apparently found and fixed the fault.
When the phone came back it still seemed to have the same problem, but I tried it for about 6 weeks until I was absolutely convinced - it did!
So, back to o2 again, this time it was returned 'No Fault Found' - having done nothing to the phone.
So once again it was sent back, this time I was demanding a replacement handset as they were obviously unable to fix the fault.
A replacement handset turned up a week later. Note that this was not a new handset, but a refurb from the repair centre and it already had about 9 hours of calls on it and a dirty screen!
After putting all my apps and things back on the phone one at a time just in case it was a particular app causing the power on problem and the battery drain, the phone seemed absolutely fine - no switching itself on and battery life of a few days (estimated over two days). This was without the SIM card in though.
After 4 days when all my apps and things were back on I finally inserted the SIM and made my first call on the new handset...
...arrrggghhh....
This handset had a faulty speaker (earpiece, not handsfree loudspeaker)... sounding like a badly tuned analogue radio. Calls to a few numbers confirmed the handset at fault (the cracking started as soon as the speaker activated before the ringing tone started).
So after another heated call with o2 I eventually learned that they are no longer supplying the Serra (Raphael) and that my only option is repair again.
Oh no. Not going to happen. At this point I am 4 or 5 months into a new contract for which I paid for an upgrade to the Serra and have not yet had a new working handset. So I demand a replacement.
As they are no longer supplying the Serra, I have had to make do with an SE Xperia X1 (HTC made anyway, and just rebadged by Sony Ericsson), but in my opinion an inferior phone despite the widescreen.
The X1 has no accelerometer, no TV out, won't run Ton Tom Navigator 5 (of which I have a legit paid for copy), has a few supplied apps missing compared with the Raphael (RSS Hub, WorldCard Mobile - although they are available elsewhere incl links from these forums), and inferior remote control on the headphones (though better headphones, it must be said), and only a 3 row keyboard.
The loss of TF3D is no problem as I never used it anyway - I don't use the X1's 'Panels' either.
The X1 does seems to 'stick' a bit more often than the Serra did as well, but I'm managing to live with it so far - especially as I now have a battery which isn;t dead by 2pm each day!
-FM
P.S. O2 UK customer services were apalling. It was only after 3 months of grief that one day I eventually got to speak to decent people who genuinly seemed to want to help. One bloke (a supervisor!) I spoke to (called Nathan) was the most utterly rude and unhelpful tosspot I've had to deal with in a long time. Not only was he accusing me of 'trying it on' but he refused to even entertain the thought that I had received less than satisfactory service from O2. His superiors wil be receiving a letter very soon, when I eventually get this completely sorted - which it isn't quite yet.
I've had an iPhone for the past 5 years.
I decided to take the plunge & buy an android yesterday.
I purchased the AT&T HTC One XL.
This is my experience so far:
1) Audio -- while listening to music, opening another app sometimes either crashes the player or momentarily fragments the sound.
2) Connectivity (in NYC using the 4G LTE network) -- very patchy. Seems to go in and out, even though I've never had these issues in the same area on the 3G network. Don't know if this is a network issue, or just a phone connectivity issue overall. Pandora constantly goes 'in and out'.
3) Seems like there is no caching (anywhere):
a) Opening a web site, briefly checking my mail, and then switching back to the website, makes the website reload.
b) Conversely, opening, e..g, my mail, going to the web browser, and then going back to my mail, makes my mail reload.
For a phone with 1GB of RAM, I don't anticipate this issue -- my iPhone 4 with half the ram was able to keep many more apps and browser tabs in memory for extended periods of time.
Is anyone else experiencing these issues?
Do I have a faulty phone?
Are any of these 'issues' just the way the android OS works? (like said, i've never used android before, so i have no clue.!)
Will a future software update fix them?
I'm very much contemplating returning this device and reviving my iphone 4;
but I don't want to if i don't have to -- android allows everyone I wish the iphone would.
Thanks you.
I haven't had any of the issues you are mentioning. I used my music player for an hour while mowing the grass tonight. As far as the 4G LTE goes, I can't comment on that since I don't have it where I live.
When your music was messing up, where you using the music app or google music player? I would try the other just to see if that issue is with both.
Other than that, I would swap the phone out as you may have just got a bad one.
I take it you have the ATT ONe X?
I just got my ATT One X today, so I haven't fully put it through the tests, but I did have an Unlocked Euro One X about a month ago that had quite a few bugs. One was the sound issue you mentioned. When I played music thru any music player the sound broke up when you hit a hardwear button or sometimes just on its own.
bothfly said:
I take it you have the ATT ONe X?
I just got my ATT One X today, so I haven't fully put it through the tests, but I did have an Unlocked Euro One X about a month ago that had quite a few bugs. One was the sound issue you mentioned. When I played music thru any music player the sound broke up when you hit a hardwear button or sometimes just on its own.
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Mine does this to should I take it back
I called HTC and they said they are working on a major update I.talked to a woman name Gloria and she said she couldn't begin to say how many phone calls about the music issue they have had lol
tyshemi said:
I called HTC and they said they are working on a major update I.talked to a woman name Gloria and she said she couldn't begin to say how many phone calls about the music issue they have had lol
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She give you an ETA by any chance?
#2 pisses me off the most. No one else has this issue?
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Got mine yesterday and having only the issue with wifi signal and 4g signal showing. Lte is lightning fast where I am. I've been able to listen to music through my car speakers, take phone calls and text at the same time.
No eta and she shuddered a lot like she wanted to say an eta but the manager that was also talking stopped her I think lol. And it does work fine in the car it's when your using the built in speaker and doing other stuff . It's an intermittent issue
I am having issue number 3. My original iphone multitasked better than my one x is right now. Web pages always reload when I go back to them no matter the browser. Heck almost every app reloads.
Here's the number I called fyi
8664498358
For your nyc issue. You wouldn't happen to me walking would you? It might be connecting to Starbucks WiFi which can't be disable if WiFi is on. This was happening to me
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Yes #2 is a HUGE issue for me. To the point (as expressed in another thread) that I'm ready to return it altogether and just keep my Sprint contract alive afterall for their EVO 4G LTE...Despite the fact I won't have 4G, at least I know their network is up consistently and is reliable!
I talked to a nice lady on the phone just now and she said this was the first time she had a call from a subscriber with a One X...So she hasn't heard anything. Just not enough data and time. She looked at some notes and AT&T does have the WiFi issue flagged in their system. I told her yes I was experiencing that one too. It's an issue when coming out of WiFi your data doesn't connect.
She had me turn off my phone, she disconnected me from their network and then I came back on it. After I explained to her with the WiFi issue, I worked around it by turning all off and then airplane mode, she said, yes airplane mode does the same thing and will essentially reset your connection to their network. You may be assigned a different tower, IP, etc.
So you can try that. Turn everything all off. Then turn airplane mode on. Then off and then the mobile network back on. You'll see a notice saying "preparing SIM card" ...
However, despite all that. I still have constant connectivity issues. The phone will not stay connected for long periods of time. It is always bouncing between LTE, HSPA+ and simply not connected at all. There's a few apps that I go to update in the store and all their downloads fail because the phone will not stay connected long enough to download them.
WHEN the phone is connected, for those brief periods of time, the speeds are good. I've seen nearly 30Mbps download on LTE to a close test server and 5, 10, 23, etc. on test servers farther away. It's extremely fast. Unfortunately, the phone simply won't stay connected to their network rendering it just about useless for anything other than getting some e-mail messages as they are able to trickle in.
thanks
The connectivity issue is horrible on my phone. I don't even have any clue that it's gone bad until I try to send a text or make a call that refuses to go through. A reset used to fix my problem, but recently it became very very stubborn (many resets... thought I tried everything and was preparing to drive to the store) and then I tried the all radios off, airplane on, airplane off, mobile on and it finally fixed itself. very frustrating, but thanks for the tip. Not sure I'll be keeping this phone. My iPhone 3gs was overall far more reliable.
droidiac13 said:
I haven't had any of the issues you are mentioning. I used my music player for an hour while mowing the grass tonight.
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That's explains why you didn't experience the #1 issue, it's only when music player is on background you start/switch to another app.
I'm experiencing all the above, but after LG Nitro HD I'll take these issues ten fold without complains. This phone is awesome even these issues.
the caching one sucks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646409
I have #2 and #3.
I was going to give HTC till day 29 prior to returning it,, however, ive changed my mind. Taking back tomorrow morning. It frustrates me to no end for the following reasons in order of importance.
1. Battery Life- only 6-8 hours with maybe 1.5 hours screen time. Thought maybe I received a dud based upon the reports of others but,,,,
2. Multitasking- there is none. 3/4 of the memory is ate up with crap running which probably accounts for the lack of caching. Due to there being no multitasking, my old iphone, iphone 4s and lumia 900 wipe the floor with this unit. It actually reminds me of the old galaxy S in terms of performance.
3. messaging- no notification
4. email-Can only send one attachment at a time.
5. email, cant click links, must copy
6. email- when you move an email to a folder, you must do additional steps to get back to inbox
7. System- pretty much everything requires so many additional taps, it is counter intuitive
8. camera- not on par with iphone 4s or galaxy s2, however software is better. I really wonder if the compression settings are what is destroying the photos.
9. No Visual Voicemail- without downloading more crappy bloatware from ATT
I do love the screen, the Quadrant scores are outstanding but not indicative of the phones actual performance and usability. I was excited, now not so much at all. There are so many other things to list but numbers 1,2,3 pretty much negate the use of this phone. I also have the Lumia 900 and iphone 4S. And so far I am most impressed by the Lumia900. However, it's camera,well, stinks.
You're crazy bro. I just scanned 6 pages wirelessly from my WorkForce 545 with my HTC One and emailed them out directly...that was 6 attached files...
Battery is awesome, but you could drain it in a few hours depending on what you do...but the same goes for every other phone.
I mean, I'd seriously give the thing a factory reset and a good charge. Play with it some more... He'll, root it and use titanium backup to remove bloatware...
But eh up to you
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
So I've been an avid Android user since it's birth, I've NEVER owned an apple products and up until recently, I've NEVER even considered it but the 6plus caught my eye.. I know that neither eco system is perfect but I'm so tired of some of the issues I'm having with my Samsung device that have continued from s3 to s4 to note 3 and now my Note 4... I can't understand why the same problems persist???? And rooting the phone is just not something I want to do + a jailbroken iPhone also opens up the device to better performance...
(a) Frequently when I take a picture and try and view the picture immediately afterwards, the phone experiences lagging and force closing
(b) when I receive a message or notification of ANY kind while listening to media, my volume is decreased and the only solution is to text myself and the new notification increases my media volume again
(c) the brightness sometimes turns itself down due to overheating
(d) WiFi issues!! Losing connection and reconnecting FREQUENTLY!!
(e) this phone was supposed to be compatible with my pioneer head unit using mirrorlink, purchased the latest head unit EXACTLY for that purpose as pioneer assured me that it was what I needed for mirror link to work. Well it didn't and researched the hell out of it (no solution)
(f) GPS sucks balls, constantly getting confused on my location, at 1st it was strictly a problem in downtown Chicago but now it happens in the suburbs too.. I could be sitting still and the phone suddenly tells me to turn left and then it corrects itself and then again turn left and it will continue to switch back N forth until I start moving again...
Now I've had all but one of these issues on EVERY Samsung device I've owned, each time hoping that their latest and greatest devices will have resolved these issues but to no avail!!!
So I'm thinking of actually making a switch to Apple and keeping an Android tablet along side it for my Android fix... I have a couple friends who've always switched back N forth between the 2, so I know Apple is a fantastic device that doesn't typically suffer from existing problems with complete deniability.. The customer service is absolutely stellar but I also know that's it's a limited device... No more unlimited skip Pandora, no more torrenting straight to my device, no more custom launchers ect ect ect....
Anyways just want some input... By the way I'm NOT a dev or a computer wiz BUT I'm a geek and electronics and gadgets are my passion, I do custom car stereo installation, I build pc's, I repair pc's for friends frequently and overall I'm very capable... Trust me NON of my problems have a real solution... Also my wife too owns a Note 4 and same crap happens with her phone
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Around late June 2018 my phone was updated to Oreo. I posted this complaining of a slow and sluggish phone with poor battery life. After a full clean flash the phone improved noticeably but still wasn't where I thought it should be. Certain apps still seemed slow to open I continue to have WiFi issues.
About four to six weeks later there was another update. I'm not sure if it was a Samsung update or an AT&T update (security patch maybe?). Once again all aspects of the phone became slow and battery life plummeted. I was back down to eight or nine hours per charge. So, once again, I performed a clean flash of the phone and things got a little better. I was back on par with my initial post-Oreo clean flash and still nowhere near my pre-Oreo performance.
About four or five weeks ago my phone started nagging me to update again. I kept WiFi turned off and continually procrastinated the update for about a week or two. Finally I allowed the update and again I am having major performance issues. Battery life is unacceptable. I get around eight hours per charge. All apps are noticeably slower to open and run slower. My G-Mail app is slow to open and show new correspondence. My navigation app is virtually intolerable. The telephone app takes forever to open. Often it will ring four times and go to voicemail before the caller ID opens to show who is calling. My Swype keyboard sometimes takes two or three seconds to come up also, I forgot to backup my custom dictionary before my last clean flash so I lost all my slang and cuss words.
Here is an interesting and annoying quirk. Bluetooth now fails. I'll get in the car and the phone will automatically sync to my JVC receiver. This still happens without any issues. The issue is that, at random times, the music will just stop playing through the stereo and it will play through the phone's speaker. The bluetooth connection is not broken or interrupted (the devices are still conntected), it just randomly starts sending music to the phone's speaker instead of the car's stereo. The easiest work around I have is to hit the pause button on the car's stereo, wait one or two seconds then un-pause. It may be simple but it is BS. I shouldn't have to do it. It wasn't a problem before and it should not be a problem now. This happens with other bluetooth devices as well such as my headphones (no pause button) and a bluetooth adapter (also no pause button) that is connected to an older home stereo that doesn't have bluetooth.
So here are my questions:
1) How can I know who is responsible for these updates? Is it AT&T? Samsung? Which 'higher power' can I direct complaints to? Honestly it feels like my phone's performance is purposely being compromised in an effort to push me to a new device. If this is the case then I'll purchase a cheap 'Sprawl-Mart' phone. At least I know I'll be buying a cheap, slow and crappy phone for $60 or $70 instead of a $750 'flagship' phone that is only good for 18 months.
2) Is it possible to set my phone to never even look for updates? I look at it this way; if I have to perform a clean flash every time my phone updates then I don't want the updates anymore. Since Oreo, none of the updates seem to provide me with any noticeable benefits.
Just a bump
Just a bump to get me back to the top of the pack. Hoping somebody has some answers for me.
Thanks,
PR