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I am an absolute upgrading noob. I have never done anything like this before nor have I even attempted it. So I was hoping someone would please be able to help me. If someone could even take the time to walk me through these processes I would be eternally grateful.
A gentleman came into my store with the Touch Flo Cube application running on his Tilt and I fell in love. The gentleman gave me the name of the program and sent me online to do a little research first. Well, long story short I ended up here and I was told this was one of the best places to go. So, I had quite a few very noobish questions and I was hoping that you guys could help me and would be gentle. I am very concerned because I have never done this before and everywhere I look there are very big warnings about "bricking your device". I have already gone through one Tilt due to liquid, and I do not want to go through another. So please please help me out here guys.
So, I have found a place to download the Touch Flo Cube from. The gentleman that I spoke to on htcwiki.com said that all I needed to do was install the application to my Tilt's internal memory, and then once I open the folder it would self install. Do I store this to it's own individual Folder? Or do I store it to a certain folder in the device? Does the device have to be unlocked in order to run the application?(Mine currently is locked to at&t Wireless USA)
Will the Touch Flo Cube enable me to view websites similar to the i-phone?
Will the Touch Flo Cube enable me to watch Youtube videos and other online videos? If not, how do I do so?
Also, I went to download the application, and it said that if I didn't buy some content that after 90 days my stuff would be deleted. Does this meant that after 90 days my application will be deleted off of the device? This might be a really really dumb question, but I just simply don't know the answer. Sorry
Brother Alecium said:
I am an absolute upgrading noob. I have never done anything like this before nor have I even attempted it. So I was hoping someone would please be able to help me. If someone could even take the time to walk me through these processes I would be eternally grateful.
A gentleman came into my store with the Touch Flo Cube application running on his Tilt and I fell in love. The gentleman gave me the name of the program and sent me online to do a little research first. Well, long story short I ended up here and I was told this was one of the best places to go. So, I had quite a few very noobish questions and I was hoping that you guys could help me and would be gentle. I am very concerned because I have never done this before and everywhere I look there are very big warnings about "bricking your device". I have already gone through one Tilt due to liquid, and I do not want to go through another. So please please help me out here guys.
So, I have found a place to download the Touch Flo Cube from. The gentleman that I spoke to on htcwiki.com said that all I needed to do was install the application to my Tilt's internal memory, and then once I open the folder it would self install. Do I store this to it's own individual Folder? Or do I store it to a certain folder in the device? Does the device have to be unlocked in order to run the application?(Mine currently is locked to at&t Wireless USA)
Will the Touch Flo Cube enable me to view websites similar to the i-phone?
Will the Touch Flo Cube enable me to watch Youtube videos and other online videos? If not, how do I do so?
Also, I went to download the application, and it said that if I didn't buy some content that after 90 days my stuff would be deleted. Does this meant that after 90 days my application will be deleted off of the device? This might be a really really dumb question, but I just simply don't know the answer. Sorry
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no it will not brick your phone
it will install on its own
no it will not make you view websites like the iphone or watch videos on you tube..you need to get TCPMP video player and the video bundle to do so
and that cube is prolly some 3rd party program that you buy...there is a cube application that is completly free...
the cube is just a cube that has shortcuts to programs and your favorite people...
read here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354715
Jesus Christ sorry for asking. Thanks for the link, but could you be anymore condescending?
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Jesus Christ sorry for asking. Thanks for the link, but could you be anymore condescending?
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yea u pay for being a noob some time but ur time will come, grubbing setion aguess
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Jesus Christ sorry for asking. Thanks for the link, but could you be anymore condescending?
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Don't really see how he was being condescending.... his answers were frank and quick. No insults nor pleasantries....
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Don't really see how he was being condescending.... his answers were frank and quick. No insults nor pleasantries....
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I agree. This was a quick, informative reply without any attitude. For someone to ask such noob questions because the can't be bothered reading this site for more than a few minutes he should be lucky. Questions like this get answered every other day and just bog down the fourm.
Please do a lot more reading of this site so that you actually understand how to flash a ROM before you go a head and brick your phone. I'd say at least for a few days rather than a few minutes!
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Jesus Christ sorry for asking. Thanks for the link, but could you be anymore condescending?
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Well... you have to understand that this is probably not the right site for you.
It would be like walking into an Advanced Calculus class and asking the teacher to help you solve 2 + 2.
Head over to att.howardforums.com.
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Jesus Christ sorry for asking. Thanks for the link, but could you be anymore condescending?
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i wasnt trying to be rude or anything...i was simply trying to help you out the fastest way possible....did you get it to work?
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Jesus Christ sorry for asking. Thanks for the link, but could you be anymore condescending?
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I wish you all the luck and hope you get what you're looking for, but, seriously, you couldn't use search and read for a little? Anything you wanna learn how to do is provided in Stickies, Wiki's, and Search. I had NO idea how to flash a ROM or where to start when I first got here. I just started reading thread after thread until I started to grasp what needed to be done. I understand you're anxious to get your device all modded and the way you want it, but unless you invest the time to understand what you're doing, jumping into this is NOT the way to go. Next thing you'll be doing is starting ANOTHER thread because something went wrong and your device got bricked. Do you wanna go w/o a phone for x amount of days until you either figure it out or buy another one? Doubtful. So read, read, and keep reading. Everyone is here to help, but they're also sick of people making their first post exp[ecting people to hold their hands and do everything for them. Good luck.
I have yet to find a ROM with the Sprint TV app. I have a friend that has this app on his blackberry tour and it is a fascinating app as you can watch full episodes of tv shows without lag. I tried using Miximo's ROM which featured this app but it does not work. What a bummer... If you know of any ROM that has this working app, please let me know. Peace to all. (Y)
For what phone?
Here's a link for a Hero rom for the 32A/32B with Sprint TV
Download is in the 2nd post
Sprint Hero Rom
When I push Sprint TV app to my phone, the widget works but the app doesn't.
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For what phone?
Here's a link for a Hero rom for the 32A/32B with Sprint TV
Download is in the 2nd post
Sprint Hero Rom
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For the Vodaphone 32B, This ROM was particularly slow for me and I did not see and Sprint TV app only Sprint Navigation and Nascar but no Sprint TV... I did not check if it was available as a widget... If it is available where can I locate it on the phone and if it is only available as a widget, does the Sprint TV app work and how well? Thanks
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When I push Sprint TV app to my phone, the widget works but the app doesn't.
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How do I push this app to my phone? Which ROM do you use? and when you say the Sprint TV widget works, how well does it work and which features are available?
Again seriously shouldnt this crap be in qna or the app section. Has nothing to do with development. Unless you actually come up with a fix dont ask ques that are highlighted all over the forums. Oh my bad you prob didnt see them bc your in the wrong section.
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Again seriously shouldnt this crap be in qna or the app section. Has nothing to do with development. Unless you actually come up with a fix dont ask ques that are highlighted all over the forums. Oh my bad you prob didnt see them bc your in the wrong section.
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Hello? This has everything to do with development, this app is in the process of being developed DUH! I did not realize you wanted to be a moderator. You can think you are but in reality you are underdeveloped in the sense you have no business bringing your negative comments and dictating how things are run. For Christ's sake, go rub one out or find something useful to do in your life instead of wasting your precious time coming in here with you uselessness, makes me sick and irritated all at once... I have a question that has not been answered. Seriously you should get out of here and mind your own business. If you have nothing to contribute to this thread, your useless comment is not wanted nor needed here. If you can answer my question then please do so otherwise use your common sense and try to look deep inside yourself and realize if you have nothing positive to contribute to a thread that has an unanswered question than your best keeping your garbage and nonsense out of here. I'm sure you think you know everything so I hope the next time you have a question to something you do not know or are trying to find out, no one responds! If a moderator feels this thread does not fall under the proper category and needs to be moved they will do so accordingly, but that is NOT your job. Take a hike. Thank you. Peace to all (Y)
it had it on maxima's hero . the widget and program worked but i kept gettin an error saying "no connection, try again later"
Sprint has Blocked all non Sprint user's From using these app, ( Sprint TV ), Nav still works for me... Till Somebody hacks the TV App, It's not going to work.
Likely Looking at the Phone Provider when App starts, or provision of the phone.
anyone's guess at this point.
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it had it on maxima's hero . the widget and program worked but i kept gettin an error saying "no connection, try again later"
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Yeah, I had the same experience
eugene373 said:
Sprint has Blocked all non Sprint user's From using these app, ( Sprint TV ), Nav still works for me... Till Somebody hacks the TV App, It's not going to work.
Likely Looking at the Phone Provider when App starts, or provision of the phone.
anyone's guess at this point.
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Thanks for the update Eugene, that makes perfect sense. I suspected it was being blocked but I also thought it could have been an issue with coding because the Sprint Nav app works flawlessly on your ROM and is a valuable asset in my opinion. Well I guess I'll just have to wait and keep my fingers crossed until someone hacks it... The other reason I would like to see the Sprint TV app on the sapphire is because it would give more competition to those with Iphone 3Gs. I do feel slightly humiliated and obsolete when I'm hanging with my friends and they can watch lag-less TV on their Iphone's while I'm pretending the metal detector app on my sapphire works and I get laughed at. While this is all happening, I am reminded that we all have the same unlimited data plan, yet I paid more for my Magic and I have limited functionality in comparison. How sad... *Sigh*
Hello,
I got recommended this forum by someone from a mountain bike forum I use as apparently you guys are the authority on all things Android!
Firstly I have a Samsung Galaxy Ace running 2.2 which I got from 3, being a network they have ruined the phone with gambling Apps and other crap that it won't let me delete. I've heard that Android in its pure form (and not networked up!) is as smooth as iOS and my phone currently has a tiny bit of lag.
Also, it won't run flash (something I thought 2.2 was meant to be able to) other than on its youtube App?
Anyway, what I want to do is put the normal Android 2.2 on there free from all of 3's crap, but if I do this is there anyway 3 would know and block my handset?
One other question, Google voice search seems to be pretty good at recognising my words. In the youtube tutorial video it shows the guy saying 'send text to blah de blah I'll meet you outside this place in 40 minutes' and the phone does it. When I try it just google searches 'send text to (whoever I want to text) *message*'
Thanks guys, sorry if this is obvious.
unfortunately there isn't a section for the Samsung galaxy Ace.
But someone started a thread for it check it out.
Hope it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961858
Looks like at the moment you can only root it since there aren't any custom roms, have faith
What you're looking to do is root your phone and install a custom Rom. I'm not familiar with your phone, so I can't tell you specifics. You would probably get the most info by going to the forum for your device & reading the stickies.
If you do root your phone, you have to be sure to have it unrooted & returned fully to stock before you could take it to the carrier for repairs. I know this is fairly simple for the Evo, but again - I'm not familiar with your phone so you would need to look it up.
If you have any questions or need any clarification, send me a pm. I'd be glad to help.
I've spent way too many hours trying to root my Inspire 4g. I'm using the ace hack kit. Yes I've read the effen manual and yes I've searched the forum, along with google and other forums. I've rebooted, tried multiple times to run the hack kit, and it never makes it all the way through. I also tried the flash method. The phone now has busy box installed and fastboot shows up, however fastboot freezes and will not let me select recovery. Also, at the top it stills says S-ON. I realize it needs to say S-OFF, but I cannot find any way to correct it. It seems like the hack kit is not finishing the install each time I try it. I end up having to pull the battery. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Saleen777 said:
I've spent way too many hours trying to root my Inspire 4g. I'm using the ace hack kit. Yes I've read the effen manual and yes I've searched the forum, along with google and other forums. I've rebooted, tried multiple times to run the hack kit, and it never makes it all the way through. I also tried the flash method. The phone now has busy box installed and fastboot shows up, however fastboot freezes and will not let me select recovery. Also, at the top it stills says S-ON. I realize it needs to say S-OFF, but I cannot find any way to correct it. It seems like the hack kit is not finishing the install each time I try it. I end up having to pull the battery. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Here is your little help....go back and re-read the OP of the hack kit thread. You will see in that first post and also mentioned sseveral times on here that they have an IRC chat that is usually staffed at all times. Please read and ask them for help in the irc. We do not need 50 threads like this opened every week.
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I've tried a few times to access the IRC already. I have no idea how to use it. I looked up tutorials for it and I can't find one. Little help on how to chat?
Saleen777 said:
I've tried a few times to access the IRC already. I have no idea how to use it. I looked up tutorials for it and I can't find one. Little help on how to chat?
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If you need help with the chatroom and are looking up tutorials.. rooting your phone is next level stuff and you should stop now. I'm not trying to be a jerk but seriously the chatroom is as easy as entering any user name, typing the verification code and hitting go. Stop now before you destroy your phone.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App
I'm capable of working a computer. I created a user name, logged into the chat, yet I can't type or select anything. I'm running a mac is that a problem? I've tried safari and firefox. I just need a little help. So far people trying to talk like they are better than me or compare the size of their manhood doesn't exactly help. I asked a question in the correct location on the forum and all I'm looking for is some answers. If putting me down makes you feel "cool" then congrats. Thanks to anyone who would actually like to help me out a bit with the issue.
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I'm capable of working a computer. I created a user name, logged into the chat, yet I can't type or select anything. I'm running a mac is that a problem? I've tried safari and firefox. I just need a little help. So far people trying to talk like they are better than me or compare the size of their manhood doesn't exactly help. I asked a question in the correct location on the forum and all I'm looking for is some answers. If putting me down makes you feel "cool" then congrats. Thanks to anyone who would actually like to help me out a bit with the issue.
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Really? That's you're scathing retort, I'm just comparing manhood, thinking I'm better then you because I'm cool I have a rooted phone? Okay, you caught me? I confess. I'm sorry you got buttmad.
Let's start off with the basics, I notice you signed up in Feb 2011. That's about a year ago so I can understand you don't remember the rules you agreed to, which state you must search before opening a thread. I see your next comment coming, "but I did search, I stated I searched here and in other forums". O rly? I find it incredibly difficult to believe that you searched XDA and didn't come across a thread that pointed you to the IRC chatroom, because honestly that's where about 90% of these types of threads get referred to. That's the whole purpose for why Attn1 created it so that threads like this aren't created and that those who need help can get help immediately. Rooting is not a simple process, despite how easy Attn1 has made it, its also very easy to get jammed up. More times then not its user error from not reading enough. I'm willing to make that bet this is the case here as well since you didn't know there was an IRC chatroom, which is stated in the first post of the hack kit thread. It's laughable that this thread is going to turn into "please help me use the IRC chatroom".
BTW, I used the IRC chatroom a couple days ago using my Mac with no issue so its something you're doing or something your computer is doing, which is going to be pretty hard to diagnose from all the way over here.
Saleen777 said:
I've spent way too many hours trying to root my Inspire 4g. I'm using the ace hack kit. Yes I've read the effen manual and yes I've searched the forum, along with google and other forums. I've rebooted, tried multiple times to run the hack kit, and it never makes it all the way through. I also tried the flash method. The phone now has busy box installed and fastboot shows up, however fastboot freezes and will not let me select recovery. Also, at the top it stills says S-ON. I realize it needs to say S-OFF, but I cannot find any way to correct it. It seems like the hack kit is not finishing the install each time I try it. I end up having to pull the battery. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I agree with the guys here. Before moving into the rooting direction, you always have to make sure that in case anything goes wrong you will be able to fix it. It has nothing to do with being a man or anything, what Bacon tells you is that in order to succeed you need to know what you are doing. Anyway, and before you panic, my guess is that your SD card is not working properly. Try a different card and it will probably work. That same thing happened to me, and still happens when I boot into hboot. Seems, that the stock sdcard has some issues to be read in bootloader.
But again, you shouldn´t argue with the guys here, the are 100% right, you must ensure you will be able to achive your goal before doing anything at all....
well said bacon. makes me think of "i can drive a car so i must be able to build one" when you get people like this.
I knew nothing about rooting when i came here, had pages and pages bookmarked with reading material. the 'what ifs' for when things go wrong, any error code that the hack kit spit out i googled and most cases brought me to a tutorial thread here. best case tho is irc, if you need help using irc then like bacon said, rooting a phone is much harder because if you cant search for something you sure arent going to be very good playing in linux.
Darunion said:
well said bacon. makes me think of "i can drive a car so i must be able to build one" when you get people like this.
I knew nothing about rooting when i came here, had pages and pages bookmarked with reading material. the 'what ifs' for when things go wrong, any error code that the hack kit spit out i googled and most cases brought me to a tutorial thread here. best case tho is irc, if you need help using irc then like bacon said, rooting a phone is much harder because if you cant search for something you sure arent going to be very good playing in linux.
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hahahaha, agreed man. I understand that the OP has found himself in a frustrating position but while he says he searched and did the proper research, his actions say something different. We tell him where to look for the best advice possible and he can't figure out. This is a development site mixed with some help me and tutorial information but this isn't a hold my hand into the chatroom and explain how it works site.
Like you, I had no idea what I was doing at first..I believe Gene or CW gave me the best advice when I first started...Research better ya moron..come to think of it that sounds a lot like CW I keed I keeeed Chris, but seriously that comment has made the world of difference and the reason why I followed Chris to Absolution..the guy hasn't steered me wrong yet..except for the steelers. (too soon man?)
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hahahaha, agreed man. I understand that the OP has found himself in a frustrating position but while he says he searched and did the proper research, his actions say something different. We tell him where to look for the best advice possible and he can't figure out. This is a development site mixed with some help me and tutorial information but this isn't a hold my hand into the chatroom and explain how it works site.
Like you, I had no idea what I was doing at first..I believe Gene or CW gave me the best advice when I first started...Research better ya moron..come to think of it that sounds a lot like CW I keed I keeeed Chris, but seriously that comment has made the world of difference and the reason why I followed Chris to Absolution..the guy hasn't steered me wrong yet..except for the steelers. (too soon man?)
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Yup...that does sound like me. LMaO
Edit...just saw the Steelers comment.....
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MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
hahahaha, agreed man. I understand that the OP has found himself in a frustrating position but while he says he searched and did the proper research, his actions say something different. We tell him where to look for the best advice possible and he can't figure out. This is a development site mixed with some help me and tutorial information but this isn't a hold my hand into the chatroom and explain how it works site.
Like you, I had no idea what I was doing at first..I believe Gene or CW gave me the best advice when I first started...Research better ya moron..come to think of it that sounds a lot like CW I keed I keeeed Chris, but seriously that comment has made the world of difference and the reason why I followed Chris to Absolution..the guy hasn't steered me wrong yet..except for the steelers. (too soon man?)
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ya exactly. Heck this phone is a year old, very VERY unlikely to have an issue that hasnt already been seen and posted at xda. I miss the old irc days, back when ya used to have your own custom mIRC scripts to kick people or welcome back messages lol
Damn another thread of the same thing ...
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G using xda premium
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Next tine we move the joking out of the main threads, let's link to it... Like I wanted to "search" for the steelers... Ugh. You boys drive me crazy...
you can't rain on my parade, I'm on the road to my fairytale!!!
Starting a new thread here.
YES I A NEWBIE!!!
(when it comes to Android at least).
That said. Nobody has to point it out. I know where I stand and I don't know much about Android. I know quite much about Unix/Linux so that's
a start. I know some electronics. I own a Note 3 that I think is mostly the same and want to try to take it parts from there.
It's not about stealing, "kanging", code. Please see it as a journey of fun. Of learning. Making something!
Newbie or not. I think we could be a fun bunch. Since we all want to learn!
I see more want the same. So why don't we pool? Why not make a "Hello I9506!"-Rom?
It's something I want to learn. Today I don't know something. Tomorrow I will. But just the satisfaction of doing something is worth it.
So if someone is interested. Message me. Hell. All the devs where newbies once.
Some are very helpful and some are jerks. We have the whole spectrum here and met both sides. But I don't care if a "elite-dev" snorts at me.
I want to produce something. From there on? Who knows?
A quick question:
Do we have some bloatware-list we can use or it the same? Still would need it thank you
I got some strange behavior of it yesterday (yes, I rooted it and tripped Knox, knowingly). It says it doesn't have space.
Folderspace says otherwise but saw that the /system was 89% and that feels just like it needs a real good cleanup.
I need to do the same with my Note 3. There I think there are scripts, but not for this. Is it the same TouchWiz as on the '05?
I contacted the "head developer" (I think, the one that made the first post) from FoxHound Rom since they
1) Makes a really nice rom
2) Have a release it on Note 3
So I asked for some help, hints. I'm sure he answers when he sees it.
What I like is the AOSP-feel of it. I'm like all the time running, between them. Flash, flash, flash. Ok dual boot now, but not the same!
Was same on my HTC until Venom released Viper for One X. The rom of roms! Venom Team. They are damn skilled.
So you find your "fav-rom". Me I like Foxhound just because it connects the two worlds. It's aiming for the best of the both worlds. Innovative.
Granted TouchWiz as a base is stable. They have a whole stab of people working on it.
It's fun to play around with both Probam or Pac-man (as it's built on) but it has drawbacks.
I can't use my Flipcase, and on the Note the pen and then we have some bugs on it. As all the rest.
Nothing that I can't complain about, since then I should take my butt and fix them or report them at least.
Please. Report. Never complain of bugs, because they happen. It's their hobby project ffs!
I really hate people that start to "demand" or are very unfriendly in their bug reporting.
It goes the other way around as well. Sauerkraut-devs with snotty answers.
Having worked with several closed and open source projects bug-reports are good, ideas for change. You can voice.
Sometimes strongly, about a new direction you don't like but you can NEVER demand, complain. Want something that badly? Ok. Pay me.
Over the years I've been on the net (like since 1991) I've seen this circle over and over.
The circle of Open source development
1) Enormous enthusiasm. The start! The first little halting buggy rom. So proud. Full of energy.
2) Taking in own and others ideas and develop, develop, develop - this is the happy times
3) The bugs start to be complicated as the code complicates so they are not that "fun" as to implement new stuff - and here starts the spiral
4) Here it's a combo that can go two ways or together
a) Constant nagging, demanding users without positive feed back makes them think that the users are just ungrateful. Because they are.
The coding is done on spare time. You can't "demand" someone from an Open source project. You can ask, propose.
In some you can expect it holds high standards and you can sometimes question if the decision in some part is wise and made a good and sound argument.
Give an alternative. But never demand and the final decision is up to the project.
b) The coders starts to seem themselves as the best on the earth and starts to see the users as something unavoidable.
This is a big error because then they should stop releasing version and just have their own. So they stop listen to ideas, and feel that the users
are ungrateful ****heads that should just follow the path and be happy that they get some app at all.
That is the negative spiral.
The frustration and the worst scenario, a rouge programmer, that go it's own way in the project. That makes a schism. Quarrels
Either the code is then forked (parted) or the whole structure starts to fall apart in who is the leader, owner, and never-ending discussions
because everybody knows BEST. Here the users are totally ignored since the internal conflicts takes over the whole project.
5) The coders gets tired of all this. Have bugs they don't care to fix and if someone files a report or do a suggestion they get a "Do it yourself" back.
6) Abandoned code or a restructure, a new way of working and uniting, some people leave, some new joins.
Healing and a fresh start or the project dies, often with the last version full of bugs that people still use because it's still what they want.
If there is luck, an new bunch of coders take that code and start from 1
I've seen this so many times and it's always the same.
In commercial projects you try to identify when the coder comes to this frustration point, because then it's time to move him/her to something else.
Because a disgruntled and unhappy person is never good, in anything. So it goes both ways.
So how to avoid it?
Basics. Planning. Setting goals. Having a real bugtracking system. Making clear that suggestions are suggestions and have a civil tone from both ways.
And then talk, yell, have big arguments inside the group, but make a real case for it. Like having your own space, where you give proposals.
But in the end. ALWAYS RESPECT.
A round table is not a bad thing, but there has to be respect and it has to be someone that has the final word that you have enough respect
for and trust that he/she decide what he/she think is the best and accept it. Else it's a chicken-yard. Never ending back and forth.
If you can't live with it because YOUR proposal was not granted either leave in a good way or make a fork. Or be a good player and not a crybaby.
A proposal should be in the form of What, Why, Time, Benefit (and if you are mature enough - potential problems and implications).
And then have a discussion about it. Advocate your case. Have a chat in the group.
There is nothing to say that a program can't have two different versions. Sometimes an experimental branch just to test things.
Time can tell which is the best. Be humble and respectful. Have heated discussions, as I have in a current project, challenge something.
That way, you see if it holds. It's the basis of research as way.
Postulate something. Try to prove it. Find someone to disprove it. Have an argument. See if it holds else start over. Boring? Yepp.
Does it give results? Oh yes. This is how mature people work.
Especially when it comes to medicine (that is my field now). Proving something is not easy. And think of those who sit for 20 years with a problem,
try 200 ways that fails, but don't give up. Persistence towards a goal. I met a professor. She has been working with HIV for something like 20 years.
She told me how many times they thought they where close. How it looked so nice. How it looked "THIS IS THE KEY" to see that it held for that part of the virus,
but not for the other 18 mutations and that it doesn't do any real benefits compared to the disadvantages. Finding a "hook" as they thought a few years back.
That was the most promising. Because a specific "hook" in something means that you can do something that grabs it. But it failed.
Or the people working on Malaria that kills so many. It's a complicated parasite and we have been so close, so close, but not yet.
The really big big thing. Documentation. I know, this is sooo damn boring, but to write out what you are doing in this block of code
(if obvious, just one line), If more complicated, explain.
Don't over complicate.
Don't insert numbers that you forget lie *1024 or +2, use a label for that. Document!
Try to write as general code as possible. KISS! (Keep it simple, stupid).
There is this case that we always get. It's about a coder in a project. He has this subroutine. He has been writing it to "perfection". Rewriting it.
Over and over. The machine went for years. Then it called that function and it crashed. Oh the irony,
In Sweden we call code that is in total disarray for spaghetti-code, because YOU know it, can navigate, but for someone new, it's hard or impossible.
Modularize as much as possible! Can't stress this enough.
That way, even if it take a bit extra time you have "boxes" that are taking in stuff and spitting out stuff.
Example.
We need a database to store things. We chose X. We work with X and then the X is not ideal, we need to make compromises in the code.
Mend it to work with X. But we come to a point where we want and need Y. But since the code is so intertwinned with X it's a hell to change it to Y.
Making an "interface", where you define clearly, the function of the database simplified (creations etc), boils down to this:
Search for something, read that something, write (change/add/delete) that something. That is it.
So yes, you write a few more lines, but today, we don't need to count how many clock-cycles the penalty it get (as I did way back).
We have damn fast things. When Java came it was like syrup. So zzzlooooowww. People just scratched their heads.
The only thing was that it worked over platforms. Today we have computers that can run it just fine. Fluid. Our phones for instance.
Same with C++. And yes, you can still make it zzzzloooow. So it's good to have some books (I have ebooks) on functions.
Don't reinvent stuff.
A sort function is mathematical. It will not change. When I started my masters we had this "little" book called "Introductions to algorithms".
It's like 3000 pages! Written in "pseudo code" 20 years ago but still holds. I can teach why we should not use this and why we should use that.
But I have not coded since 1997 or so and so much has changed!
But an Android is a Linux in the bottom. I've worked as a Unix specialist for many years before I changed path. So I know my way around there.
I DO need to update myself. I'm honest. I can spend time in clusters. Sometimes I have personal matters that hinders me. Like most people.
But first and foremost. It has to be FUN. This is our spare time. We do this for free. It SHOULD be fun.
Writing not fun is something you get paid for. Get a specification. Do this and that.
We still need that and it can be an obstacle but it still should be a goal to want to do this.
Persistence. Ask for help. Get a no? Ask another. We all have to start from square one. That is the beauty of this in a way.
So I'm asking if someone wants to make a group and do a ROM? I want to try. We seem to be an enthusiastic bunch here right now. Let's pool!
Let's make our "Hello Worlld! I9506 rom!
So if anybody else, newbie or not, feel it would be fun, message me. Cause I will try anyway and I would love some company.
I've had "some" project leading experience, and I still sit as a bit "advisor/pain in the but".
I don't code but most probably need to start again. But I do voice advice/concern from time to time. I try to propose some solution based on experience.
Call it "meta-coding", but it can be just as important to know how to move code fast then to be able to write the lines.
"Paradigms" don't change. If you look at a language, Java, C etc. You can boil it don't to rules. And the rules are basically the same.
The syntax, how you write it, is different. Some special solutions that is unique for just one language is there.
It's a pain to work with strings of text in C but easy peasy in Perl for instance.
And if we find someone that can give us hints help. That would be kind of them. We can ask. The worst response we can get is a "no", right?
As you see I'm known to write long. "Walls of text" is something I first got a bit mad at, now I find it funny. Sure, I "chat" in a written form.
But I'm full of ideas and enthusiasm here.
I have no plans to enforce me as some "boss". We are a team. Later on, someone will lead. We are a bunch of enthusiasts.
Right now. Baby steps. At least this is how I look at things. You might look at it otherwise.
Nothing stops us from exchanging ideas, even if we don't work on the same thing? I think that is the spirit. Helping each other.
This is not an competition. I don't care if 5 people uses the rom or not. It's not about that. The next one will be cooler. But competition?
Isn't that a bit childish? People have different tastes. I like the AOSP. If my flipcase etc worked I would move from TouchWiz since I even don't use it.
My subproject that takes precedence
KNOX. I will not give up on Knox. That is my main goal right now.
It affects me personally. If we don't stop it. Stop wasting time how to circumvent the bootloader. That is irrelevant.
If not stopped NOW. We will have an S5 with a chipped version of it. Then it's too late.
I see, in some despair, people whining in the threads, but no action. Why don't 20 people start to reg at user-forums and start to spread this?
I have MY theory. You can have that. I think it's for spying. Because I can't any other reason. My employee would give me a phone.
It has no place in our phones. But whining in a thread in a special forum like XDA, where there are people who are wizards when it comes to
developing and people that want to custom their hardware doesn't do it.
We need to spread it to the forums where the "normal" users sit. That probably never noticed it's even there. The ones that ask how to change
the different levels of volume, for calls and system. The user-base. Make them understand in simple terms. Telling them that this place, where the
best people frequent, doesn't really know what it does, because Knox is more then a bootloader that you want to circumvent not to trip that "flag".
That is the only place where we can reach the masses. Make people think. NSA. Snowden. Reading my mails? Recoring my calls?
I don't know. Do you? But it's possible. Who am I to know if my provider feeds my government with data. We already feed them with positiondata.
Make people aware. Make this crowd DO SOMETHING...
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When you turn on Skype it tries to make a tunnel through in a very sneaky way to "somewhere". I see it each time I turn it on since I tap my ethernet.
My webcam is on a switch. When I Skype I turn it on. Else it's off. And aimed at the wall, if I would happen to forget to turn it off.
So they can make happy pictures. So did Hitler. I just don't buy their bull**** of security for individuals that they added a few days ago.
if I don't want to use a firewall and a viruskiller on my PC. That is my choice. If I look at the downloaded movie Intel won't blow up my CPU.
But here, if this e-fuse is true. That is a deliberate active action. Then they are destroying my property. That is not acceptable.
But to make the "whiners" do something. Damn. That takes energy.
Ok, I stop here. If someone IS interested in experimenting together, message me. I think it can be a fun journey
All the best,
Absolon (yes I got my real nick back!)
:good: Nice explanaition of your opinion and you plan!!!
Never Seen such one!!
.........Few things about me...
1. I AM A NEWBIE TOO IN ANDROID AND LINUX!!
2. I want learn more about LINUX and ANDROID
3. Everything that i know about LINUX and ANDROID i learned here from Instructions of some people( cant remember all nicks - but BIG THANKS to THEM!!! ) that are posted on XDA Forums or Googled it!! And that is not much since i can not even compile a CWM from CM source - after 2 weeks of investigation and always getting error - - i understand its not easy to do that with my less experiance!!!
4. I have a wife and 2 kids around me - so thats top priority 1 for me!
5. I do things in Android when i got time for that - thats mostly on weekends in the evening or night when wife and kids are in bed!!
6. My english is not the best!!
7. Yes of course i am interested in experimenting and learning with other interested people!!!!
8. If you can live with that 7 points before this point - you can call me a member of the ROM "Hello I9506!"
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Cheers
absolon said:
Starting a new thread here.
YES I A NEWBIE!!!
(when it comes to Android at least).
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Ok, I stop here. If someone IS interested in experimenting together, message me. I think it can be a fun journey
All the best,
Absolon (yes I got my real nick back!)
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xenix96 said:
:good: Nice explanaition of your opinion and you plan!!!
Never Seen such one!!
.........Few things about me...
1. I AM A NEWBIE TOO IN ANDROID AND LINUX!!
2. I want learn more about LINUX and ANDROID
3. Everything that i know about LINUX and ANDROID i learned here from Instructions of some people( cant remember all nicks - but BIG THANKS to THEM!!! ) that are posted on XDA Forums or Googled it!! And that is not much since i can not even compile a CWM from CM source - after 2 weeks of investigation and always getting error - - i understand its not easy to do that with my less experiance!!!
4. I have a wife and 2 kids around me - so thats top priority 1 for me!
5. I do things in Android when i got time for that - thats mostly on weekends in the evening or night when wife and kids are in bed!!
6. My english is not the best!!
7. Yes of course i am interested in experimenting and learning with other interested people!!!!
Cheers
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DEAL!
ALL programming books starts with how to write a "Hello World!" program. That's why I thought of the name
So "Hello I9506"?
/Absie
Looks interesting, i have only build a buggy CM rom for S3 but never released it, can i join ya .
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
absolon said:
DEAL!
ALL programming books starts with how to write a "Hello World!" program. That's why I thought of the name
So "Hello I9506"?
/Absie
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Yes "Hello I9506" sounds nice and the Rom Name got also a background by this way why we call it so.
cheers
Sent from my GT-I9506 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Hey man, i agree with your point. I'd like to help even if I own a I9505. That shouldn't be a problem though! Count me in as a developer! :good:
My I9506 is ready for testing!
A lot of being a good developer is mindset and enthusiasm. I'm sure you'll do great!
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app
I hope the ROM also includes support for the E330S variant....
GO young Dev's !!
@Absie
Hi, my mate.
If u need help/some knowledge in decompiling/compiling of apks and framework jar files and building yr own ROM, PM me.
I have done my ROM projects in the S2 forums and some mods in I9505.
But I'm not a C++/java programmer freak.
I didn't have time to study in this field .
Just a tiny bit of xmls, themings and smali codes here and there that I can help u.
I'm sure u can make a good ROM in this forum.
U need more "real" devs to help u in making yr own ROM.
Cheers.
You are not alone on this. if you can do a clean system dump of 4.3 for me when it released I will take on some projects for you folks
Absolon said:
She told me how many times they thought they where close. How it looked so nice. How it looked "THIS IS THE KEY" to see that it held for that part of the virus,
but not for the other 18 mutations and that it doesn't do any real benefits compared to the disadvantages. Finding a "hook" as they thought a few years back.
That was the most promising. Because a specific "hook" in something means that you can do something that grabs it. But it failed.
Or the people working on Malaria that kills so many. It's a complicated parasite and we have been so close, so close, but not yet.
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Yup, that about sums up the majority of time I spend troubleshooting, with the answer often being something very simple that I overlooked in the beginning.
As for de-bloating, once you get familiar with what's what it can usually be done pretty quickly.
The first thing to always do is make nandroid of everything and save it your desktop just in case. Having a zip with the stock ROM handy can also save you a lot of time if you need to replace just one app.
There are four main places you have to remember when doing this:
/system/app - primary location for system apps
/data/data - where the app's data is stored
/data/app - where upgraded copies of the apps are saved
and the dalvik-cache (usually /data/dalvik-cache or /cache/dalvik-cache)
If you're using an odexed ROM you'll want to get both the .apk and .odex files at the same time. Many apps will also have two or three widget providers, etc., be sure to get all that stuff. Just keep a list of everything you've removed.
Facebook is usually the first thing I nix as it often uses ~50MB, is redundant when it's going to install itself from the market anyway, and always has way to much access to your personal information as a system app. Twitter, flickr and any other apps like that, which you don't need or want as a system app, can all go too. Some devices also ship with keyboards for every language ever created, you can get rid of any that don't apply to you.
Once you've cleaned out the easy ones take your list and open up Settings -> Apps. The apks may be gone from /system, but all their data and updates are still taking up space. So to finish removing them look under the "All" tab and when you see one hit wipe cache, wipe data & uninstall.
Now just return to the recovery so you can wipe your dalvik-cache and create another nandroid. If you want to clean even more this will give you a good checkpoint to revert back to if needed.
xHausx said:
Yup, that about sums up the majority of time I spend troubleshooting, with the answer often being something very simple that I overlooked in the beginning.
As for de-bloating, once you get familiar with what's what it can usually be done pretty quickly.
The first thing to always do is make nandroid of everything and save it your desktop just in case. Having a zip with the stock ROM handy can also save you a lot of time if you need to replace just one app.
There are four main places you have to remember when doing this:
/system/app - primary location for system apps
/data/data - where the app's data is stored
/data/app - where upgraded copies of the apps are saved
and the dalvik-cache (usually /data/dalvik-cache or /cache/dalvik-cache)
If you're using an odexed ROM you'll want to get both the .apk and .odex files at the same time. Many apps will also have two or three widget providers, etc., be sure to get all that stuff. Just keep a list of everything you've removed.
Facebook is usually the first thing I nix as it often uses ~50MB, is redundant when it's going to install itself from the market anyway, and always has way to much access to your personal information as a system app. Twitter, flickr and any other apps like that, which you don't need or want as a system app, can all go too. Some devices also ship with keyboards for every language ever created, you can get rid of any that don't apply to you.
Once you've cleaned out the easy ones take your list and open up Settings -> Apps. The apks may be gone from /system, but all their data and updates are still taking up space. So to finish removing them look under the "All" tab and when you see one hit wipe cache, wipe data & uninstall.
Now just return to the recovery so you can wipe your dalvik-cache and create another nandroid. If you want to clean even more this will give you a good checkpoint to revert back to if needed.
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Thank you!
Right now, all we have is the original rom, that is "normal" so I gess it's "dexed". I have no clue how to make it odexed, since what I understood it makes
the whole rom smaller?
The thing that worries me is the bootloader, since we only have the one with Knox in it and I don't know how other bootloaders work or are compatible.
But that means that we are locked into SELinux, right? So until having a "Knox-free" bootloader we can't do **** when it comes to customizing roms?
Because we can't add our own kernel or is there some code that Samsung have, because I found out that Samsung had a code-repo (wow), but
not for this phone yet.
I tripped the Knox-flag when I rooted it. Found no other way really. And I don't know if this is Knox-related or something else. I noticed this on the i9505
as well. I have space but when I try to install things it says that it's out of space and can't install it. The "funny" thing is if I push the install from the webpage
of Play it installs just fine so it's seems to be something preventing it?
I don't recall if I had it before or after Knox since I tripped Knox unknowingly on my other phone before we even found out what it was.
So I need to clean it out. Yes, /system is 76% full with the original. Since all I have done so far is just rooted the phone.
If someone has an I9505, can you do
1) df -k
The partitions (not counting the sd.) on I9506 are:
The root partition (/)
/efs
/firmware-modem
/data
/persist
/system
I'm too tired to write out a good coomand, but best is to use "find" and with some -printf options and then start to hunt.
Then we can compare the phones. The special parameters for SELinux are the next step. But this is a start to see how
The SELinux special parameters part is also something that I want to see, but I want to start with this.
Btw. On my Note 3 I got an "update" of the SELinux rules. Anyone else? (Will ask in the Knox-tread as well).
That is not rooted but totally plain vanilla and I didn't even noticed that there was an update function but got "update 16".
See my post: From Knox-thread
I read and read this night, and to just condense it since I write too long anway and I'm tired. Since the bootloader
is loading an SELinux, that won't boot if it's not compared with an unique X.509 cert in every phone and see if the
loader checksums we really get an virtual environment. That is the "wrong" feel I've had I think. And I think that we need
to sit down and test some things to verify this theory. Get some programs that can do some deep probing of the hardware.
If I'm right, and they have made a VM out of the phone we should probably notice it somehow, because it's easy. I looked,
SEAndroid that NSA created is a VM with Xen.
That means that the SELinux can just run in the background with it's processes that it will never show to you and you think
you have a rooted and Knox-free phone when you never have it since the bootloader loags a SELinux and makes a sandbox.
If's perfect. Unique id on each phone. Your signature on the papers with the serial numbers which identify you as the owner.
So perfect that I could cry if I was an engineer at Samsung...
/Abs
Please make a custom ROM that works for the SHV-E330S as well
THank you very much!
sheesha_straw said:
Please make a custom ROM that works for the SHV-E330S as well
THank you very much!
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We need to start with baby steps so a skeleton for the I9506 is the first prio.
SHV-E330S I head that before. What IS that? Can you give me details? Is that some version of the I9506?
If it is then you are most welcome to help out!
/Abs
Absolon said:
We need to start with baby steps so a skeleton for the I9506 is the first prio.
SHV-E330S I head that before. What IS that? Can you give me details? Is that some version of the I9506?
If it is then you are most welcome to help out!
/Abs
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I think it's the Korean SK Telecom version of the i9506
It has the same LTE-A support & Snapdragon 800 processor and everything
GSMarena description of the phone
Also known as Samsung Galaxy S4 with LTE+
Available as Samsung SHV-E330S Galaxy S4 LTE-A for SK Telecom.
Inventory
First,
I need to know if it's ok that I take the Project leader role here a bit? I have sat down and identified the things we need to even start and I have some pretty good idea.
But I can only be a Project leader if you let me. If I'm allowed to spread out the work. Else we can close this. I can't do this alone. It's too much work.
But I think that the work WE can do is the base that will benefit all rom-makes. Because this is the starting point that anyone that want to make a
rom has to start from.
The difference is that I want this to be here. In the open, and not at some closed webpage. I want all to benefit from what we do.
Either we do this openly or not at all.
And so you know. There will be a bit of work. I have my Unix knowledge and I run several Linux/BSD machines at home. I did a small calculation.
I have now been playing/then having it for getting bread on the table with Unix for 23 years.
I don't know everything. Far from. Even though I been working with it that long, the part I did as a consultant was within a certain part and I never learnt
other. Simply because I was hired for knowing just that part really well.
The problem with Unix (and why I use Unix is that everything is basically Unix, even though it called differently. It would be called Unix today if it didn't
happen to be a patent fight over the NAME. The one that held the patent of the name Unix wanted money for people to use it (it might have been SCO,
they tried to get money for anything they could. Really despise that company).
So instead of paying the companies invented their own names, Sun went for SunOS and then Solaris, Hp (HP-UX), IBM (AIX) etc.
So it's hard to say that Linux is not a Unix because it's not a Unix Unix (that doesn't exist anymore) but when I say Unix I mean the whole spectrum
of very very closely related OS to it, ok? So I will sometimes say Linux and can say Unix, but I mean basically the same.
The thing with Unix is that the learning curve is steep. You install it and have a black screen with a ">". It's a bit more easy now with Ubuntu (that I hate),
but it's better for you, that never worked with it to have something to "point and click". When it comes to the real work you will have to open up a
terminal anyway and TYPE command. See it a bit as a DOS-windows in your Windows.
There is two distinct flavors though. The one is BSD and the other is the Linux, bla bla. Those two are a fork that happened long ago and you tend
to feel like a newbie again, once you sit in from of a FreeBSD after being a homie on Linux because everything is different.
There is a standard basically on how to start up things. There is now a new thing that comes more and more that should be less conservative then
what has been the case the last 20 years but that is another thing. The Linux that Android is based on has a normal "init.d"-structure and that is
where the different scripts are that start up, in an order you decide, different parts of the system, or do what ever really. They are just scripts and
could write "Hello I9506!" on the screen if you would like that.
Did you all see the post I made about the i9506?
PLEASE ALL. I need to verify this so it's not some duckup from my part but I will do a odin today to be sure
Take a look at what I wrote: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48320189&postcount=1402
Anyone here that tripped Knox? Anyone got any strange things?
We need to know this before making any attempt at all.
I don't cry wolf here. This is true. No bulltitting. I KNOW I had this.
If you look my sig, you might think I know has build a Faraday's cage around me and have a folio-hat while looking through a magnifying glass at my
monitor at a Youtube-video showing taped in a tv that was recorded by a CC-camera from a TV in the 80-ies about the (pick one):
Moon landings
Kennedy
Roswell
9/11
Ilumatnii/NWO
And I wish I where. But the phone is erratic and I really think it's tampered. Did someone get a notice with rule-updates? I didn't get it to this one
but I got it to Note 3.
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So in case that you let me lead the project here in the start and be able to have work that I can "assign", or I rather want to list work and have volunteers for it.
Then I can say "Ok, test that then" etc. And we have a dialog that is open and never that someone feels forced over it, ok?
We need a BASE. Something to start from and we need to see what we have so this is the inventory part. What we have, where we start.
The first step
And I need someone that can do some deep probing for me of the hardware. We need to start comparing.
Can all do a *#1234# and post it?
I have:
AP: I9506XXUAMI3
CP: I9506XXUAMHD
CSC: I9506NEEAMI1
I noticed it only works on the original "Phone app".
This is what I think we need as a base to start with.
I9505
As close stock rom as possible. Now I saw that Hotfile was closed down (did a post about it) so I hope we get
Base
I9505 - Plain vanilla rom. As close we can get
I9506 - Depends here what you have. Here I would ask if someone has an unrooted and a rooted version.
Note 3 - I have an unrooted version. Anyone has a rooted? Knox tripped? I tried to root it with that Universal thing that doesn't trip know but it hangs.
This are the things we need to start with at least. Make nandroid-backups on them. When you have them I'll prepare a space for them on my g-drive
where you can upload them and then I can start to compare them.
Also, anyone with a Knox-tripped I9506. Please PM me. I got really strange behavior and I don't know if it's Knox or something else.
The ones with Note 3, did you get an "SELinux rules upgrade #16" a few days back? I didn't see that was an option to turn them off.
As I wrote in my other thread. My I9506 started to behave real strange. REALLY strange. There are a whole bunch of programs missing.
The are gone. I have 3 icons on them in launcher but they are just not there. So what gives?
Is this only me or is this something that we all get when we trip the Knox?
After I did a clean with the CleanMaster and removed the Knox apps, I can't get into settings, so I need to try a nandroid restore or in worst case
try to install a odin-version and reroot it. Or maybe play with it unrooted for a while.
This is serious things is this Knox-flag tripped something. I talked with my provider today about this.
So an inventory! What do we have for hardware to test on?
Things to investigate - Here I start list things that any of you can do. As I said. I can't do all and I have so much IRL that I shouldn't be here at all...
Hardware
We know it's closer to Note 3 then to 05. When I look at specs it seems like the same phone.
But I need a rooted Note3 to get the app that list ALL hardware, sensors etc, to compare it. An unrooted Note 3 will not get that access.
My theoryI is that a BL from Note 3 will probably work but one from 05 will not.
But that need to be verified. And I need to see that Odin can reflash if we do something that hangs the phone. This is the risk I will take.
What is on it?
Here I could start to compare. But I need backups of the phones!
If you happen to have any personal password for your wifi, I can give my word that I will overlook it.
Besides, what do I need it for? Not like I would come home to you and hack your Wifi
So here is a list of things:
There is no source released on their webpage about the i9506 yet.
We don't have any "pre-knox" BL for this one.
Can someone check the Note 3 forum if there is some pre-knox. Did a 4.2.2 even existed or was it a 4.3 from the start?
And then backups of the partitions for comparison.
That is the first steps to even start to move this.
/Paul
Absolon said:
First,
I need to know if it's ok that I take the Project leader role here a bit? I have sat down and identified the things we need to even start and I have some pretty good idea.
But I can only be a Project leader if you let me. If I'm allowed to spread out the work. Else we can close this. I can't do this alone. It's too much work.
But I think that the work WE can do is the base that will benefit all rom-makes. Because this is the starting point that anyone that want to make a
rom has to start from.
The difference is that I want this to be here. In the open, and not at some closed webpage. I want all to benefit from what we do.
Either we do this openly or not at all.
And so you know. There will be a bit of work. I have my Unix knowledge and I run several Linux/BSD machines at home. I did a small calculation.
I have now been playing/then having it for getting bread on the table with Unix for 23 years.
I don't know everything. Far from. Even though I been working with it that long, the part I did as a consultant was within a certain part and I never learnt
other. Simply because I was hired for knowing just that part really well.
The problem with Unix (and why I use Unix is that everything is basically Unix, even though it called differently. It would be called Unix today if it didn't
happen to be a patent fight over the NAME. The one that held the patent of the name Unix wanted money for people to use it (it might have been SCO,
they tried to get money for anything they could. Really despise that company).
So instead of paying the companies invented their own names, Sun went for SunOS and then Solaris, Hp (HP-UX), IBM (AIX) etc.
So it's hard to say that Linux is not a Unix because it's not a Unix Unix (that doesn't exist anymore) but when I say Unix I mean the whole spectrum
of very very closely related OS to it, ok? So I will sometimes say Linux and can say Unix, but I mean basically the same.
The thing with Unix is that the learning curve is steep. You install it and have a black screen with a ">". It's a bit more easy now with Ubuntu (that I hate),
but it's better for you, that never worked with it to have something to "point and click". When it comes to the real work you will have to open up a
terminal anyway and TYPE command. See it a bit as a DOS-windows in your Windows.
There is two distinct flavors though. The one is BSD and the other is the Linux, bla bla. Those two are a fork that happened long ago and you tend
to feel like a newbie again, once you sit in from of a FreeBSD after being a homie on Linux because everything is different.
There is a standard basically on how to start up things. There is now a new thing that comes more and more that should be less conservative then
what has been the case the last 20 years but that is another thing. The Linux that Android is based on has a normal "init.d"-structure and that is
where the different scripts are that start up, in an order you decide, different parts of the system, or do what ever really. They are just scripts and
could write "Hello I9506!" on the screen if you would like that.
Did you all see the post I made about the i9506?
PLEASE ALL. I need to verify this so it's not some duckup from my part but I will do a odin today to be sure
Take a look at what I wrote: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48320189&postcount=1402
Anyone here that tripped Knox? Anyone got any strange things?
We need to know this before making any attempt at all.
I don't cry wolf here. This is true. No bulltitting. I KNOW I had this.
If you look my sig, you might think I know has build a Faraday's cage around me and have a folio-hat while looking through a magnifying glass at my
monitor at a Youtube-video showing taped in a tv that was recorded by a CC-camera from a TV in the 80-ies about the (pick one):
Moon landings
Kennedy
Roswell
9/11
Ilumatnii/NWO
And I wish I where. But the phone is erratic and I really think it's tampered. Did someone get a notice with rule-updates? I didn't get it to this one
but I got it to Note 3.
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So in case that you let me lead the project here in the start and be able to have work that I can "assign", or I rather want to list work and have volunteers for it.
Then I can say "Ok, test that then" etc. And we have a dialog that is open and never that someone feels forced over it, ok?
We need a BASE. Something to start from and we need to see what we have so this is the inventory part. What we have, where we start.
The first step
And I need someone that can do some deep probing for me of the hardware. We need to start comparing.
Can all do a *#1234# and post it?
I have:
AP: I9506XXUAMI3
CP: I9506XXUAMHD
CSC: I9506NEEAMI1
I noticed it only works on the original "Phone app".
This is what I think we need as a base to start with.
I9505
As close stock rom as possible. Now I saw that Hotfile was closed down (did a post about it) so I hope we get
Base
I9505 - Plain vanilla rom. As close we can get
I9506 - Depends here what you have. Here I would ask if someone has an unrooted and a rooted version.
Note 3 - I have an unrooted version. Anyone has a rooted? Knox tripped? I tried to root it with that Universal thing that doesn't trip know but it hangs.
This are the things we need to start with at least. Make nandroid-backups on them. When you have them I'll prepare a space for them on my g-drive
where you can upload them and then I can start to compare them.
Also, anyone with a Knox-tripped I9506. Please PM me. I got really strange behavior and I don't know if it's Knox or something else.
The ones with Note 3, did you get an "SELinux rules upgrade #16" a few days back? I didn't see that was an option to turn them off.
As I wrote in my other thread. My I9506 started to behave real strange. REALLY strange. There are a whole bunch of programs missing.
The are gone. I have 3 icons on them in launcher but they are just not there. So what gives?
Is this only me or is this something that we all get when we trip the Knox?
After I did a clean with the CleanMaster and removed the Knox apps, I can't get into settings, so I need to try a nandroid restore or in worst case
try to install a odin-version and reroot it. Or maybe play with it unrooted for a while.
This is serious things is this Knox-flag tripped something. I talked with my provider today about this.
So an inventory! What do we have for hardware to test on?
Things to investigate - Here I start list things that any of you can do. As I said. I can't do all and I have so much IRL that I shouldn't be here at all...
Hardware
We know it's closer to Note 3 then to 05. When I look at specs it seems like the same phone.
But I need a rooted Note3 to get the app that list ALL hardware, sensors etc, to compare it. An unrooted Note 3 will not get that access.
My theoryI is that a BL from Note 3 will probably work but one from 05 will not.
But that need to be verified. And I need to see that Odin can reflash if we do something that hangs the phone. This is the risk I will take.
What is on it?
Here I could start to compare. But I need backups of the phones!
If you happen to have any personal password for your wifi, I can give my word that I will overlook it.
Besides, what do I need it for? Not like I would come home to you and hack your Wifi
So here is a list of things:
There is no source released on their webpage about the i9506 yet.
We don't have any "pre-knox" BL for this one.
Can someone check the Note 3 forum if there is some pre-knox. Did a 4.2.2 even existed or was it a 4.3 from the start?
And then backups of the partitions for comparison.
That is the first steps to even start to move this.
/Paul
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Main:
AP: I9506XXUAMHE
CP: I9506XXUAMHD
CSC: I9506VF6AMH4
It's GOOD!!!
Ap : E330sksuamg5
cp : E330sksuamg4
csc : E330ssktamg4