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Hello, I've been running xboarder56's rooted GB OTA (not the tweaked one) for about 2 months now with almost no problems. However, my phone slows down and starts getting laggy to the point of being unusable after a day or two, and the frequency seems to be increasing. I don't run many background services. Only rebooting fixes the problem temporarily. I'll try to load a webpage on either opera mobile or the stock browser while listening to music and the music starts skipping and popping while the page loads slower than usual, but after rebooting it's fast again with no skipping.
I've been searching the forums and Google and seen a few others with this problem but can't find a fix for it. I've tried clearing the Dalvik cache (with NVflashed CWM) but it didn't seem to help any. Is this a common problem with LG-based Gingerbread ROMs, and does anyone else here still have this problem? I started having this problem after running my last ROM, CM7 RC1 after a month, and when I switched to my current ROM I did do a full wipe/factory reset. I'm thinking about trying the new-ish CM7.1.0.1 stable ROM or Weapon G2x and am wondering if those have this problem as well. Any suggestions? Thanks for your time!
I have honestly had that problem with every most roms I've tried at some point. Maybe not instantly, but it will eventually start to slow down like you described in which i have to reboot.
Dang. Do you think a fix actually exists for this, or does everyone have this problem? It's strange since I can't find much discussion about this.
It sounds like you have an app gobbling up memory and not releasing it. All Android phones such be rebooted around once a week to keep things nice and tidy.
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It sounds like you have an app gobbling up memory and not releasing it. All Android phones such be rebooted around once a week to keep things nice and tidy.
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That's the issue I have with any 2.3.3 builds. But with 2.3.4 straight for 2 days now, hasn't experienced this issue yet. Unlike 2.3.3 that even within a day, it needs a reboot. I think there is a problem with LG's memory management.
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That's the issue I have with any 2.3.3 builds. But with 2.3.4 straight for 2 days now, hasn't experienced this issue yet. Unlike 2.3.3 that even within a day, it needs a reboot. I think there is a problem with LG's memory management.
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If I flash CM7.1.0.1 stable, will ClockWorkMod 3.0.2.7 that I flashed for the CM7 RC suffice? Or do I need to update that too before flashing? Sorry to drag the thread along.
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If I flash CM7.1.0.1 stable, will ClockWorkMod 3.0.2.7 that I flashed for the CM7 RC suffice? Or do I need to update that too before flashing? Sorry to drag the thread along.
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It should work fine flashing any zip, but the 5.0.2.0 version of CWM is far better. Flashing it with the One Click tool is a no brainer. Go ahead and update it. It will only take you a few minutes of your time.
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It sounds like you have an app gobbling up memory and not releasing it. All Android phones such be rebooted around once a week to keep things nice and tidy.
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Do you have any evidence to support that? From what i've read android is made to run better when more memory is used.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
I never had to reboot my Nexus One, or even my T-mobile G1.
I've tried just about every rom for the g2x since i got it about a month ago and they are slow down. I'm not on the 2.3.4 rom and it started out great; now its almost unusable.
Anyone know whats wrong?? i'm about to call t-mobile and try to get another phone. I don't understand how they can release phones that just don't work. How can my single core 1ghz Nexus one be faster then this dual core 1ghz phone?
i'm just on stock and i have to reboot my phone every single day or else it's not useable. i have like zero apps on my phone almost so i know that can't be the problem, it's ridiculous
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tokimaromi said:
i'm just on stock and i have to reboot my phone every single day or else it's not useable. i have like zero apps on my phone almost so i know that can't be the problem, it's ridiculous
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Good to know it isn't only me. I'm trying some more tests on my phone to see whats going on. I think i'm gonna call tmo soon and see what they say.
i'm sure they won't have a good reply for you but definitely share with us if they do! i understand having to reboot the phone like once every three days or so but every single day is totally unacceptable
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Did anything ever come from this? I'm completely stock, just got this phone the other day. This phone lags harder then my HD2 I just had, which I would have kept if the digitizer didn't go out.
Are you guys on stock? If so then i highly recommend going custom. LG can't code for crap, so lots of stuff that was wrong with this phone has been fixed in the recent custom roms/kernels.
I've had the same issue until i recently switched to Phoenix Blood rom. I recommend it if you want to forget when was the last time you rebooted and still use the phone buttery smooth. I am using Faux kernel and the ROM is rock solid for me. Recently ran and the V6 script(instructions are on the rom's page in development section) with it and now it's even better! Give it a try you would love it;-)
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Okay I'll check it out later, ya I'm out the box right now but not for long.
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Yeah get on a ROM without any LG coding or framework. If you guys prefer a more stock 2.3.3 feeling I would suggest Bionix Reloaded.
I make it a habit to reboot my phone every night before I sleep.
Howdy hello,
I've been on my Nexus S since GB. Ever since I've rooted and been running custom ROMs. I've had some awesome experiences but some crappy ones at the same time, all of which I attributed to my phone running a custom ROM.
Now I've finally got the new, new stock JB on my device, and after running it for a few weeks, I'm a bit disappointed. The features are nice and all, but there are so many issues I face that make it near unusable. To name a few:
Google Now takes way too long to pull up. At least 5 seconds and even while it's loading the cards, it's very laggy. The search button used to be a quick way for me to search for something, but the is effectively ruined with this lag.
Constantly losing data / connectivity. I know this may be at the carrier level, but I've never had this much trouble. ALSO, in these cases, the phone will often be reporting that it has full bars / full 3g connectivity, so either way the phone is acting screwy. I mean seriously, the one thing I need my phone to do is make a damn phone call, yet it semi-frequently fails to do so.
Apps fail left and right. Today my youtube app crashed in the middle of the first video I pulled up on it. I know this isn't really the OS, but it's part of the stock experience, and I think android should be held responsible.
Just a few minor gripes. I'm just wondering: has anyone else experienced this? I did a full wipe before installing the stock JB rom, and I don't think it could just be root permissions making things go wacky. I may consider re-wiping and only installing a few apps, but I really don't have that much crap installed, so I'm not sure if that's the issue as well.
I saw another post recommending to get a new SIM card from AT&T. I have had mine for a few years, so that could be a possible fix for issue #2, but I don't think that's the entire reason.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks a lot all.
Stock JB was very laggy on my NS for some reason. Even swipping pages in the home screen was laggy. Some apps would instantly crash, too.
I've been running custom JB roms on my Nexus S, and its been running really well. The only thing is im experiencing the same lag that you do with Google Now. It has caused me to open my browser to do a search, which is disappointing, because in GB and ICS, the Google Search bar was so quick and convenient.
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Howdy hello,
I've been on my Nexus S since GB. Ever since I've rooted and been running custom ROMs. I've had some awesome experiences but some crappy ones at the same time, all of which I attributed to my phone running a custom ROM.
Now I've finally got the new, new stock JB on my device, and after running it for a few weeks, I'm a bit disappointed. The features are nice and all, but there are so many issues I face that make it near unusable. To name a few:
Google Now takes way too long to pull up. At least 5 seconds and even while it's loading the cards, it's very laggy. The search button used to be a quick way for me to search for something, but the is effectively ruined with this lag.
Constantly losing data / connectivity. I know this may be at the carrier level, but I've never had this much trouble. ALSO, in these cases, the phone will often be reporting that it has full bars / full 3g connectivity, so either way the phone is acting screwy. I mean seriously, the one thing I need my phone to do is make a damn phone call, yet it semi-frequently fails to do so.
Apps fail left and right. Today my youtube app crashed in the middle of the first video I pulled up on it. I know this isn't really the OS, but it's part of the stock experience, and I think android should be held responsible.
Just a few minor gripes. I'm just wondering: has anyone else experienced this? I did a full wipe before installing the stock JB rom, and I don't think it could just be root permissions making things go wacky. I may consider re-wiping and only installing a few apps, but I really don't have that much crap installed, so I'm not sure if that's the issue as well.
I saw another post recommending to get a new SIM card from AT&T. I have had mine for a few years, so that could be a possible fix for issue #2, but I don't think that's the entire reason.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks a lot all.
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The cards could be taking longer to load because of your flaky connectivity. Can't expect them to load instantly if your data/signal is dying all the time, can you?
Definitely an inferior experience here on stock JB compared to ICS. Really hope Google fix this in an incremental update, as it's a bit silly their second-best phone can't run JB properly.
polobunny said:
The cards could be taking longer to load because of your flaky connectivity. Can't expect them to load instantly if your data/signal is dying all the time, can you?
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heh, that's a fair point. I'm not so upset with the cards taking a long time to load as I am that, while they are loading, the OS is very unstable. It's difficult for me to bring up the keyboard and search google while it's trying to load those cards. I can't believe it's not butter
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Definitely an inferior experience here on stock JB compared to ICS. Really hope Google fix this in an incremental update, as it's a bit silly their second-best phone can't run JB properly.
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My thoughts exactly . I was excited to get back on stock so I could have a functional phone without any added bells and whistles. New features are nice, but not at this price.
Try running a custom kernel.. Try the thalamus kernel its very stockish and it's SUPER smooth..
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I'm running stock on [email protected] with a matrix kernel everything smooth for me
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I had problems with JB too. There were a few lags, especially with Google Now. Some apps would crash every time I tried to open them, and the launcher crashed every time I tried to change wall paper.
shyguyhighfive said:
Howdy hello,
I've been on my Nexus S since GB. Ever since I've rooted and been running custom ROMs. I've had some awesome experiences but some crappy ones at the same time, all of which I attributed to my phone running a custom ROM.
Now I've finally got the new, new stock JB on my device, and after running it for a few weeks, I'm a bit disappointed. The features are nice and all, but there are so many issues I face that make it near unusable. To name a few:
Google Now takes way too long to pull up. At least 5 seconds and even while it's loading the cards, it's very laggy. The search button used to be a quick way for me to search for something, but the is effectively ruined with this lag.
Constantly losing data / connectivity. I know this may be at the carrier level, but I've never had this much trouble. ALSO, in these cases, the phone will often be reporting that it has full bars / full 3g connectivity, so either way the phone is acting screwy. I mean seriously, the one thing I need my phone to do is make a damn phone call, yet it semi-frequently fails to do so.
Apps fail left and right. Today my youtube app crashed in the middle of the first video I pulled up on it. I know this isn't really the OS, but it's part of the stock experience, and I think android should be held responsible.
Just a few minor gripes. I'm just wondering: has anyone else experienced this? I did a full wipe before installing the stock JB rom, and I don't think it could just be root permissions making things go wacky. I may consider re-wiping and only installing a few apps, but I really don't have that much crap installed, so I'm not sure if that's the issue as well.
I saw another post recommending to get a new SIM card from AT&T. I have had mine for a few years, so that could be a possible fix for issue #2, but I don't think that's the entire reason.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks a lot all.
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Hmm I can say that AOSP JB is WAYYYY better than ICS. Soon I can port my ROM from the NS4G to the NS.
I have to agree with this. I've used stock JB when it was released, I was wowed by it's smoothness and cool animations. But everything felt a little slow and sluggish coming from ICS custom rom. After switching to Jellybro, JB feels both very fast and smooth. If you feel disappointed with JB, try using custom rom.
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I don't know if you guys with problem tried that yet, but it might be a good idea to do a factory reset. You will lose all your data if not backed up but I'm getting a feeling it could help. JB has only been smoother than ICS for most.
Looking to get an NS soon, but it may help, as others have mentioned to run a custom kernel and bump up the clock speeds a bit.
My N1 is almost perfectly smooth (very little lag and often times none) with JB installed and overclocked.
My GNEX is smooth as butter. (As to be expected). But I guess what I'm saying is, if the N1 can run JB smooth, then the NS should not have any problems.
And while I know AOSP is technically designed to run on multiple devices, only two were in mind when JB was released....the N7 and the GNEX. Everything else is an afterthought in which AOSP may not be fully optimized for the hardware that is pushing it. (Just my opinion).
And another opinion while I'm on my soap box. JB is what ICS should have been.
In my opinion 512 MB of RAM are a tight fit for Jelly Bean. I can just run 3-4 background apps without kill-restart-kill-restart-kill-restart and a constant lag.
I remember some kernels used to have compcache support. Maybe I could try to enable compcache/zram.
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Looking to get an NS soon, but it may help, as others have mentioned to run a custom kernel and bump up the clock speeds a bit.
My N1 is almost perfectly smooth (very little lag and often times none) with JB installed and overclocked.
My GNEX is smooth as butter. (As to be expected). But I guess what I'm saying is, if the N1 can run JB smooth, then the NS should not have any problems.
And while I know AOSP is technically designed to run on multiple devices, only two were in mind when JB was released....the N7 and the GNEX. Everything else is an afterthought in which AOSP may not be fully optimized for the hardware that is pushing it. (Just my opinion).
And another opinion while I'm on my soap box. JB is what ICS should have been.
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I just got my GNex and the difference with JB on this phone is night and day. I didn't think it would be but I'm pleasantly surprised. But yeah. The RAM issue seems to be my biggest gripe with it on the NS. And for some reason, it just dominated my battery. I went through my first cycle on stock with Trinity and managed 3.5 hours of screen time over the course of almost 17 hours and still had a little under 50% remaining. My NS would've been dead long before that with the same usage pattern.....
I run stock JB with Matr1x. It works very very well.
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In my opinion 512 MB of RAM are a tight fit for Jelly Bean. I can just run 3-4 background apps without kill-restart-kill-restart-kill-restart and a constant lag.
I remember some kernels used to have compcache support. Maybe I could try to enable compcache/zram.
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Not to mention it only uses 368 mb of them. If it used the full 512, it would be pretty nice
I'm running Androxide 3.1 and used to run AdamG's custom ROM. Both ran great, no hiccups what so ever, Google now loads very fast, I guess it depends on your GPS and internet connection. My experience with JB is far better than the fastest ICS ROM out there, I believe given enough time, performance will become exceptional.
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I run stock JB with Matr1x. It works very very well.
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Not to mention it only uses 368 mb of them. If it used the full 512, it would be pretty nice
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That can be tweaked a bit with different kernels.
I am running XenonHD 9 + marmite 4.2 kernel. It's stable and smooth. Worth a try.
Hi,
I just got a free tab 2 with a Samsung camera, and have given it to my son to use, playing Agent Dash it often lags to the point where its not really playable, but sometimes its fine which is bizzare, anyway I'm considering rooting it and putting a custom rom on which I'm guessing will help???
Question is If I put some rom on and custom recovery etc can I go back to a stock Samsung recovery and firmware and reset the flash counter should I wish?
Thanks in advance
edit. Also are there any roms which look similar to the Samsung stock one with touchwiz that would perform better?
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Hi,
I just got a free tab 2 with a Samsung camera, and have given it to my son to use, playing Agent Dash it often lags to the point where its not really playable, but sometimes its fine which is bizzare, anyway I'm considering rooting it and putting a custom rom on which I'm guessing will help???
Question is If I put some rom on and custom recovery etc can I go back to a stock Samsung recovery and firmware and reset the flash counter should I wish?
Thanks in advance
edit. Also are there any roms which look similar to the Samsung stock one with touchwiz that would perform better?
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I"d say you won't get any improvement. Sounds like a app problem. I"d send a note to the developer. There is little difference if any in performance between CM based JB and Stock. Are you on the stock JB ? There is a difference in performance between ICS and JB.
And no , there is no stock ROM that performs better. IN general I'd say the tab performs very well. and problems you see are usually poorly written apps.of which there are a lot
DigitalMD said:
I"d say you won't get any improvement. Sounds like a app problem. I"d send a note to the developer. There is little difference if any in performance between CM based JB and Stock. Are you on the stock JB ? There is a difference in performance between ICS and JB
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Yeah updated it as soon as I got it yesterday its on P3110XXCLK7, I had another one earlier in the week but that came and the box was smashed up so got it swapped, I only briefly tried that one but it seemed to play fine, I restored this one last night thinking that might help but its come back, I was playing it myself a few hours ago for about 20-30 mins and it was fine, put it on charge and then took it off charge and tried again and it started to lag big time.
If I flash the stock rom via odin over the top it wont affect the flash counter will it? Maybe something got buggered during the update? Having said that it only appears to be this app
I've put a clip of it on you tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K988t6tgNUM
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Yeah updated it as soon as I got it yesterday its on P3110XXCLK7, I had another one earlier in the week but that came and the box was smashed up so got it swapped, I only briefly tried that one but it seemed to play fine, I restored this one last night thinking that might help but its come back, I was playing it myself a few hours ago for about 20-30 mins and it was fine, put it on charge and then took it off charge and tried again and it started to lag big time.
If I flash the stock rom via odin over the top it wont affect the flash counter will it? Maybe something got buggered during the update? Having said that it only appears to be this app
I've put a clip of it on you tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K988t6tgNUM
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Falshing stock ROM by Odin will not affect the counter.
I never experience lag on this tablet, but certain apps will mess up any device. If you are having a problem with only one app , check with the developer. if you are not sure what's slowing things down try a cpu analyzer and see what is eating your resources up..
A lot of games now access the web during the game to provide interactive play or offer to sell you things, that can often slow things down.
DigitalMD said:
I"d say you won't get any improvement. Sounds like a app problem. I"d send a note to the developer. There is little difference if any in performance between CM based JB and Stock. Are you on the stock JB ? There is a difference in performance between ICS and JB.
And no , there is no stock ROM that performs better. IN general I'd say the tab performs very well. and problems you see are usually poorly written apps.of which there are a lot
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DigitalMD said:
Falshing stock ROM by Odin will not affect the counter.
I never experience lag on this tablet, but certain apps will mess up any device. If you are having a problem with only one app , check with the developer. if you are not sure what's slowing things down try a cpu analyzer and see what is eating your resources up..
A lot of games now access the web during the game to provide interactive play or offer to sell you things, that can often slow things down.
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Yeah hadnt thought about that, i'll try again with wifi off
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Yeah hadnt thought about that, i'll try again with wifi off
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Games often use lots of hacks to try to get certain things to work, and the hacks get hammered sometimes when the Android version changes.
seems clearing the app cache helps but it doesnt seem to last too long
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seems clearing the app cache helps but it doesnt seem to last too long
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How much internal storage do you have free?
About 3gb
No matter what ROM I put on my phone, sense 6, 7, AOSP 5.1 every rom I use my phone is extremely slow and unreliable. I'm not sure what I can do at this point and am wondering if the hardware is worn out, or I have corrupt files. I've wiped everything in twrp many times and still get a phone that can not even handle navigation without freezing or not working. Anyone else have terrible performance regardless of the rom?
Have you updated your firmware?
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No matter what ROM I put on my phone, sense 6, 7, AOSP 5.1 every rom I use my phone is extremely slow and unreliable. I'm not sure what I can do at this point and am wondering if the hardware is worn out, or I have corrupt files. I've wiped everything in twrp many times and still get a phone that can not even handle navigation without freezing or not working. Anyone else have terrible performance regardless of the rom?
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When was your last ruu? Doctor says to keep the bits clean you gotta ruu!
And depending on use you may want to run fs trim. Like this one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fifthelement.trimmer
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d1ez3 said:
No matter what ROM I put on my phone, sense 6, 7, AOSP 5.1 every rom I use my phone is extremely slow and unreliable. I'm not sure what I can do at this point and am wondering if the hardware is worn out, or I have corrupt files. I've wiped everything in twrp many times and still get a phone that can not even handle navigation without freezing or not working. Anyone else have terrible performance regardless of the rom?
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To be honest.. I've only noticed this on ART file system. I just stick it out and restart my phone every so often and usually fixes it.
I even tested once Dalvik vs ART. I dont have any numbers to back up my theory, but as soon as i change back to dalvik, its night and day difference and doesnt slow down.
Unfortunately not sure if 5.x.x can use Dalvik
dottat said:
When was your last ruu? Doctor says to keep the bits clean you gotta ruu!
And depending on use you may want to run fs trim. Like this one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fifthelement.trimmer
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Hah, I actually did this last night before checking this thread. I figured that was the only real option that would make my phone the same as new. So far running well, a lot better than before. I notice redraws and slowdowns only when navigating in my car with bluetooth and charging.. music streaming as well. Maybe it's a little much for the phone.
Clearing the internal memory definitely helped out, I'll try the trim eventually too.
Thanks for making the RUU
Can anybody link me to any? I see people in several posts referencing battery life and also temperature issues to be dependent on kernels and which one you chose, but I don't see any to choose lol. A popular one seems to be arde and a Google search doesn't bring anything relevant up. Is there a list of kernels somewhere? I think I'm starting to prefer stock actually. Is there some for stock and cm based?
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Can anybody link me to any? I see people in several posts referencing battery life and also temperature issues to be dependent on kernels and which one you chose, but I don't see any to choose lol. A popular one seems to be arde and a Google search doesn't bring anything relevant up. Is there a list of kernels somewhere? I think I'm starting to prefer stock actually. Is there some for stock and cm based?
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HERE
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HERE
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Well I clearly stated that I Googled it. I wouldn't be posting this if I didn't. The only real relevant link appears to be the first one and it's in Spanish. Using Chrome to translate I still can't seem to make sense of an organize the links, nor do all of them work. Excuse me for thinking someone might have reorganized them somewhere in English.
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Well I clearly stated that I Googled it. I wouldn't be posting this if I didn't. The only real relevant link appears to be the first one and it's in Spanish. Using Chrome to translate I still can't seem to make sense of an organize the links, nor do all of them work. Excuse me for thinking someone might have reorganized them somewhere in English.
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I also had it translated to English,and I could understand it well.
Group 1 and Group 2 are for STOCK
CM and CM OC are for CM
Aren't most of them included in the ROMs? I've finally got it where I got CM12 not running that hot, at least to the touch anyway. The kernel auditor app still is showing numbers sorta high
I was under the thought that the ARDE kernels dont work with the newer type builds.
One other thing.....they are in .img formats. Isn't that for bootloaders and reocveries? Can you flash a kernel as an img file in twrp?
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Aren't most of them included in the ROMs? I've finally got it where I got CM12 not running that hot, at least to the touch anyway. The kernel auditor app still is showing numbers sorta high
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Flashify will do the job. Free in play store. ?
dongarritas said:
Flashify will do the job. Free in play store. ?
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I used to use it way back in the day with Samsung phones lol. So you can flash a kernel IMG with it? Would that delete TWRP? Or do these kernels have TWRP ingrained or something? Last time last phone I was flashing kernels they were just Zips. That's what I'm used to, I'm just a little confused why they are boot IMG's on this phone.
carnivalrejectq said:
I used to use it way back in the day with Samsung phones lol. So you can flash a kernel IMG with it? Would that delete TWRP? Or do these kernels have TWRP ingrained or something? Last time last phone I was flashing kernels they were just Zips. That's what I'm used to, I'm just a little confused why they are boot IMG's on this phone.
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LOT'S of differences in these Chinese phones vs the flagships. All in all, pretty solid phones, but better left with minimal modifying, as the hardware, software, and development just aren't on par. After trying 2 ROM's, with bad result, I am just going to stick with stock rooted, TWRP, and Xposed. You can already freeze/uninstall the little bloat there is, and because of no hardware method of booting into TWRP, risk vs gain just isn't worth it for me. Anyway, I don't think you will lose TWRP by flashing kernel. I'm not knocking any of the dev's......far from it! I just don't feel the need to spend so much time modifying what is such a small footprint (178 elements for me, vs 380 in touchwiz flagships!) for little, if any gain in battery or performance. Just one nerd's opinion.
dongarritas said:
LOT'S of differences in these Chinese phones vs the flagships. All in all, pretty solid phones, but better left with minimal modifying, as the hardware, software, and development just aren't on par. After trying 2 ROM's, with bad result, I am just going to stick with stock rooted, TWRP, and Xposed. You can already freeze/uninstall the little bloat there is, and because of no hardware method of booting into TWRP, risk vs gain just isn't worth it for me. Anyway, I don't think you will lose TWRP by flashing kernel. I'm not knocking any of the dev's......far from it! I just don't feel the need to spend so much time modifying what is such a small footprint (178 elements for me, vs 380 in touchwiz flagships!) for little, if any gain in battery or performance. Just one nerd's opinion.
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Try installing that arde OC kernel i mentioned in the other post. There's not much you even have to mess with with it, it's already set. It has helped out things majorly and I still get stock battery life even.
carnivalrejectq said:
Try installing that arde OC kernel i mentioned in the other post. There's not much you even have to mess with with it, it's already set. It has helped out things majorly and I still get stock battery life even.
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I flashed the kernel, and when it rebooted, it stayed stuck at Alcatel screen. Wouldn't respond to adb/fastboot commands, finally decided to try to reflash/update using update software, but when I turned it off, as soon as I plugged it into PC, it would boot to Alcatel screen. So then I tried to put it in download mode, and after many tries,got it there, but update tool would fail at5%, saying device not recognized. Finally, some how trying to get into download mode, it booted into TWRP. Yay!.....or so I thought. I wiped and then restored, and when it booted, back to Alcatel screen. Managed to get it back to TWRP after several tries, and it turned out that something unmounted system. Wiped, restored, mounted, wiped cache and dalvic, put it in freezer, as the only time it gets hot is when I wipe caches.....takes about 5 minutes to update/reboot. Now all is good, but I'm going to stick with stock rooted, as even out of the box I never experienced any lag. I have even underclocked with ROM toolbox pro, 1344 for top cores, 960 for bottom, powersave governor. Still no lag! :good: I have Cricket 60450,btw. This really is a different animal than the EVO and Galaxy phones I have been using since 2010. I dont understand how you can have such wildly different variables with similar hardware....I have a ZTE Warp Elite with 2gb RAM, and when i clear junk/caches it gets down to 10-16% memory usage, and tops out at about 65%. The Idol will clear to mid 40% and quickly gets to low 80%. Is the difference that bad between 5.0.2, and 5.1.1? Anyway, if you get stuck like I did, just keep powering off, and rebooting with power, vol up, down, both, and you can get into TWRP. Wish I could say there was a specific order/procedure to get there, but it just seemed to be a case of repetition. Hope this can be of help if anyone gets stuck at splash for whatever reason, and can't get phone to respond with PC. Also, have any cricket users used the upgrade tool, and if so, did that SIM unlock? Don't know if that's a separate firmware/chip that controls SIM lock. So much for my rambling adventures, but hopefully if someone gets stuck they can use my experience to get into recovery.