Hey guys,
was wondering what you all think about 16GB as internal space being enough or not? The problem that I'm thinking of is that "/sdcard" will get mapped to the internal memory (and not the external SD Card), and a lot of apps just go there to write stuff. Things like downloads folder etc., which default to /sdcard/download and may fill up the 16GB partition very soon.
What are your experiences in this direction?
thanks
Personaly for me its far too litle ,cuz i have got a lot of differents app ,also 4K video and timeshift video eat unimaginable amount of space
I believe Lollipop will allow you to save app data to an external storage.
Well there's at least a decent amount of onboard memory. I got by with a 32gb card for the past 3 years. Just noe upgraded to 64gb heading into my Z3v. I really only use it for old pics (from phone to phone) and keeping my entire music library on me at all times, which is like 12 gbs.
It's nice to know I'll never be worrying for space.
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I believe Lollipop will allow you to save app data to an external storage.
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Even then, the difference of write/read speeds is massive between internal memory vs external SD card. I believe 32 GB should be the bare minimum for today's smartphones. Glad T Mobile thought so as well, at least for the Z3.
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Even then, the difference of write/read speeds is massive between internal memory vs external SD card. I believe 32 GB should be the bare minimum for today's smartphones. Glad T Mobile thought so as well, at least for the Z3.
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If you get a good card like the Samsung Pro or SandDisk Extreme you won't notice much difference (40-50 MB/s Writes). The internal flash (made by Samsung) is obviously faster due being soldered and more inter connects (like RAID).
Cheap cards like the Sandisk Ultra are slow.... (10-15MB/s Writes)
abhinav.tella said:
If you get a good card like the Samsung Pro or SandDisk Extreme you won't notice much difference (40-50 MB/s Writes). The internal flash (made by Samsung) is obviously faster due being soldered and more inter connects (like RAID).
Cheap cards like the Sandisk Ultra are slow.... (10-15MB/s Writes)
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The internal memory is like 200+ MB/s, so there is still a BIG difference. Also, I don't believe the memory controller can read the full potential of the Pro and Extreme cards. I have a 64 GB Ultra (advertised at 48 MB/s read), and I only get about 39 MB/s read. I have read the same for the Note 4 in that it cannot use the full speed available from those cards.
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The internal memory is like 200+ MB/s, so there is still a BIG difference. Also, I don't believe the memory controller can read the full potential of the Pro and Extreme cards. I have a 64 GB Ultra (advertised at 48 MB/s read), and I only get about 39 MB/s read. I have read the same for the Note 4 in that it cannot use the full speed available from those cards.
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True on both points, the card controller max is like 40-50MB/s. What I meant was I don't think you will notice much difference because, for most apps it should be fast enough and caching is still generally in the internal card. Loading big games like Asphalt may load a little slower but in use, it should not be too bad. Internal is ~240/40(R/W) Max for the klmag2geac-b001 (16GB) and 240/60 (R/W) for the 32 GB version in the D6616.
The reads are not the problem as most ops are reads anyway, but its the writes which are really low ~15 MB/s max, hence the cost of the Extreme/PRO 35-40 MB/s.
Basically what I am saying is you are right but this is your best bet.
Here is the specifications for the internal NAND if you are interested:
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Hi guys
i recently received my Sandisk Class 4 16gb micro sd card, but im getting pretty slow speeds with it.
Its currently in FAT32 format.
When transferring files from my computer to the card via the usb cable, im getting 3mbps, which is much slower than what ive seen others get with a class 2 sandisk microsd card.
Also when i test the card using 'SD tools' in the app market it says it should have write 5.7, read 10.4, which is not what im getting and still slower than results ive seen others get with class 2 sandisk microsd cards.
I also have an old 2gb Verbatim card (with no class markings), which is currently in FAT format (not FAT32), that came free with an old phone, that seems very quick when transferring files, much quicker, and in SD Tools it gets - write speed 2mbs, read speed 17 mbps.
Questions -
What format should i set the card to maximize performance (not using app2sd)?
Is a smaller capacity card of the same class faster?
(is a class 4 8gb faster than class 4 16 gb?)
Is FAT faster than FAT32?
Is my card defective?
Should i return it for a class 2 as they seem to be faster?
Hope you can help
For starters, which of those 2 file system is really faster don't matter because you cannot use FAT16 on your 16GB card. FAT16 only supports up to 2GB.
Also, class 4 is suppose to be faster than class 2.
sounds like you got a fake Sandisk Class 4 16gb, a knockoff market imitation with low quality component
what is the actual speed test result of the write?
AllGamer said:
sounds like you got a fake Sandisk Class 4 16gb, a knockoff market imitation with low quality component
what is the actual speed test result of the write?
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Thanks for the reply allgamer, I've seen many of your posts on these boards and your very helpful
My actual write speeds are 3mbps, when transferring from my pc to the phone via usb cable.
I got the card from play.com so I didn't expect it to be fake. Are there any other tests I could do to confirm its authenticity?
Should I try different file systems like ext2 or fat etc?
3MB/s for a class 2 card is pretty good. I don't what you can expect more from that.
I have an Kingston 16Gb Class 4 and the writing speed from pc -> phone is like 2MB/s, much slower then it should. But in SD Tools its shows 4 or 4.8 MB/s writing speed.
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3MB/s for a class 2 card is pretty good. I don't what you can expect more from that.
I have an Kingston 16Gb Class 4 and the writing speed from pc -> phone is like 2MB/s, much slower then it should. But in SD Tools its shows 4 or 4.8 MB/s writing speed.
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The card I got is a class 4, and being a san disk I expected better write speeds.
What is really confusing is why the 2gb card (with no class markings) I got free with an old phone is much faster at transferring files via usb despite it getting a much lower score in SD tools.
Can anyone explain that?
Hi, i bought some days ago an 8GB class 10 micro sd card, hoping it would speed up my phone (i was using app2sd+ with Kyrillo's ROM v7.1).
I didn't notice any diference compared to my old 4GB class 2 card, so i installed SD Tools app to test the speeds, and i realized all the cards i put in my phone get 4MB/s as the maximun write speed, i tried many different sd cards, class 2 and 10 and there's no difference. Then i tried the same cards in my girlfriend's Galaxy Ace and the speeds were much higher, 7~12 MB/s write speed.
I thought it was a rom problem, so i backed up with Titanium Backup and flashed a stock ROM (JPM), but the speeds remain the same (around 4 MB/s for writing), i also tried changing the buffer size from 128kb to 1024, 2048, 4096 with "SD Booster" and "SD Speed Increase" apps, but no good results...
Could my phone be faulty?
Is there any configuration i can try to make my sd card faster? any command line?
What are the speeds you reach with "SD Tools" and classes of your SD card?
Best Regards!
I'm not sure, but I think there's nothing you can do....
Mine is a 16GB class 6 and it's the same, whatever I try. Before had 8GB - was the same.
Whatever I wrote into the 'read ahead buffer'...
But maybe anyone else has an idea?
Try changing the buffer to 0 as sometimes that works.
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Try changing the buffer to 0 as sometimes that works.
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TNX for the tip, but unfortunately SAME RESULT...
i also get the same speeds..
i think thats a bug with sd tools.
By the way has any one tried data2sd/apps2sd v3? do you face lags?
also do you people have SD or SDHC
I belive that sdtools has a bug. Or is seriously faulty. I have 16GB class 2 sdcard and sdtools claims that my read and write speeds are equivavlent to class 6 card (values range from 6.x/6.x to 8.x/7.x, write/read, respectively (depending on read_ahead_kb values). And I know for a fact that this really cheap sdcard does not have such performance. You can try antutu benchmark, free app on market, which provides a bit more accurate results plus you can select what to benchmark. My card gets 3.0MB/s read and 2.0 MB/s write with default buffer values. Which is more accurate than sdtools. Especially because disks (any kind) usually have higher read rate than write rate (because it is easier to read data than to write it and 'cause we usually perform much more reading than writing, so it is optimized for read operations).
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I belive that sdtools has a bug. Or is seriously faulty. I have 16GB class 2 sdcard and sdtools claims that my read and write speeds are equivavlent to class 6 card (values range from 6.x/6.x to 8.x/7.x, write/read, respectively (depending on read_ahead_kb values). And I know for a fact that this really cheap sdcard does not have such performance. You can try antutu benchmark, free app on market, which provides a bit more accurate results plus you can select what to benchmark. My card gets 3.0MB/s read and 2.0 MB/s write with default buffer values. Which is more accurate than sdtools. Especially because disks (any kind) usually have higher read rate than write rate (because it is easier to read data than to write it and 'cause we usually perform much more reading than writing, so it is optimized for read operations).
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antutu give me 3.x and 4.x for write and read speed respectively!!
8gb class 10
That is odd. Do you have a card reader? Maybe you can bench from pc and see the results. I have only 2 sdcards, both class 2 and the results I get are to be expected from class 2 cards. There is also possibility that it is a low quality component. If you feel like it try to investigate, get cards info like serial, model and manufacturer and see what you'll discover. Nowadays people are selling everything claiming it to be a better than actually is. I remember reading tests regarding SD 's where they said that same card type from same manufacturer performed about 10 times worse just because one was.made in China and the other in taiwan, or something like that. I personally would do some research but it's up to you.
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That is odd. Do you have a card reader? Maybe you can bench from pc and see the results. I have only 2 sdcards, both class 2 and the results I get are to be expected from class 2 cards. There is also possibility that it is a low quality component. If you feel like it try to investigate, get cards info like serial, model and manufacturer and see what you'll discover. Nowadays people are selling everything claiming it to be a better than actually is. I remember reading tests regarding SD 's where they said that same card type from same manufacturer performed about 10 times worse just because one was.made in China and the other in taiwan, or something like that. I personally would do some research but it's up to you.
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well i did a bench mark from laptop's card reader.. it was way over 18 mbps.. cancelled the benchmark in the process as it was taking too long.. but half way read speed was definitely above 18mbps.. Also my sdhc's manufacturer is transcend. I hope this company wont betray us!!
well, in that case it might have to do with phone configuration/programming. Maybe devs could figure out why the phone does not utilize full potential of the sdcard. Perhaps low ram, (relatively) "slow" cpu, something...
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well, in that case it might have to do with phone configuration/programming. Maybe devs could figure out why the phone does not utilize full potential of the sdcard. Perhaps low ram, (relatively) "slow" cpu, something...
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Good point. Hope some dev is listening!!
I have the same problem.
Samsung Galaxy 3 GT-i5800, Android Froyo firmware v2.2 build XWJPL.
I tested with two class 10 microSD cards, quality ones, but got poor transfer rates.
card1: Transcend 8GB MicroSDHC Class10 (TS8GUSDHC10) - up to 20 Mb/s
card2: Samsung 8GB SDHC Plus Class10 (MB-MP8GA/EU) - Read max. 24 Mb/s, Write max 21 Mb/s
Samsung 8GB cl10 test result (SD Tools app): Write: 4.4 Mb/s; Read 5.1 Mb/s
The card write speed should be higher than 10 Mb/s
I've been reading that the higher class SDHC cards like class 6, 10 aren't great for random write access, small blocks, but since we run our OS/apps on the phone's internal memory and we don't do the A2SD+ stuff, should it be ok to use class 10 cards?
Or does android still do a lot of significant random access on SD cards for the sensation?
Class 10!
I use a 32GB class 10 with nearly all my apps stored on there. I don't suffer and read / write lag. All I'd say is you get what you pay for, so don't buy a cheap one
I understand but do you know if the OS does the random r/w on sdcard? I'm not running any a2sd for my apps or anything so AFAIK I could run my phone without an SD card...
well since gingerbread came out app2sd is integrated into the OS, so you can transfer your apps to your SD card or they can be internally stored
just go to settings>applications>manage applications then tap into any app (thats not a system app) and you can move it to your SD card o to the phone
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I'm not asking about transferring apps to SD card?!
I'm asking if the random read/write access matters since our OS and apps are on the internal 4GB memory of the phone. Does the OS use the sdcard for any operations at all?
i read somewhere in the forums that class 4 will suffice. class 10 suits those HD camcorders as the write speed is high. if i'm not wrong, the read speed is the same for all (don't blame me if i'm wrong though)
I'm actually also wondering about this. Since the sensation can record 1080p, does that mean we need a fast writing card for our phone?
I have just bought a 32GB class 4 Sandisk micro SD (£28.99 Ebay) and i have no problems at all recording video at [email protected] Mbps. It may seem slightly jerky when you are actually filming on screen but when you play it back its smmmooottthhh!! Don't buy cheap memory cards. YOU WILL REGRET IT and waste your hard earned cash!! Just a personal experience warning.
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I have just bought a 32GB class 4 Sandisk micro SD (£28.99 Ebay) and i have no problems at all recording video at [email protected] Mbps. It may seem slightly jerky when you are actually filming on screen but when you play it back its smmmooottthhh!! Don't buy cheap memory cards. YOU WILL REGRET IT and waste your hard earned cash!! Just a personal experience warning.
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I agree. I have a 32gb class 4 sandisk and also a 32gb class 10 lexar and both record perfectly fine (smooth recording and playback). I'm using Amaze Cam v7 with 16mb bitrate. So if it can record and playback (via connecting to USB to computer and playing on PC) smoothly, then it is more than fast enough to run the apps and constant writing apps.
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well since gingerbread came out app2sd is integrated into the OS, so you can transfer your apps to your SD card or they can be internally stored
just go to settings>applications>manage applications then tap into any app (thats not a system app) and you can move it to your SD card o to the phone
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It was actually Froyo that bright A 2SD, mate!
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I ordered Lexar 32gb class 10 card from Amazon Tigerdirect seller for 48$... Will get it in couple of Weeks... I think class 10 is good fir sensation and is also future proof...
Spending once is better then spending twice later...
does anyone know the max sd card transfer speed of the pad, and the dock?
i am looking at a 128GB SDXC card (yes, its a lot, but this is replacing a dead laptop for the foreseeable future) , UHS-1 60mb/s, or a 45mb/s one. will the UHS card actually have any benefits in the dock, or simply when transfering data to it from the PC.
many thanks!
I'm currently running a Class 10 (200x) 32 GB SDHC in the dock, branded Dane-Elec. Runs fine. I don't know if it takes 32+ GB cards, though... And to be honest, while heavily dependent on what you actually do with it, for most purposes a high-speed card should suffice...
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does anyone know the max sd card transfer speed of the pad, and the dock?
i am looking at a 128GB SDXC card (yes, its a lot, but this is replacing a dead laptop for the foreseeable future) , UHS-1 60mb/s, or a 45mb/s one. will the UHS card actually have any benefits in the dock, or simply when transfering data to it from the PC.
many thanks!
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I'm currently using two Sandisk cards:
- microSD class 10 30MBps SDHC Ultra (16GB)
- full SD class 10 SDHC Extreme 45MBps in the docking station (32GB)
They get better speeds than the built-in disk, but it is still not great. It seems to be about 15-18Mbps write for SD, 6Mbps write for microSD and 30-32Mbps read for both (as compared to 12/18 of the internal memory).
The fastest way of moving data still seems to be external USB HDD...
Hope this helps, haven't tried any other yet. I have tried both FAT32 and NTFS though. They seem to give similar results (I had no problems using NTFS on my SD card so far, which is a good sign).
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I'm currently using two Sandisk cards:
- microSD class 10 30MBps SDHC Ultra (16GB)
- full SD class 10 SDHC Extreme 45MBps in the docking station (32GB)
They get better speeds than the built-in disk, but it is still not great. It seems to be about 15-18Mbps write for SD, 6Mbps write for microSD and 30-32Mbps read for both (as compared to 12/18 of the internal memory).
The fastest way of moving data still seems to be external USB HDD...
Hope this helps, haven't tried any other yet. I have tried both FAT32 and NTFS though. They seem to give similar results (I had no problems using NTFS on my SD card so far, which is a good sign).
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I haven't used an external drive yet, but I agree with the observation that the transfer speed is not optimal, no matter what card I plug in (I have transplanted a few I normally use in my DSLR just for testing; they are all fast cards, as you can imagine). I transferred several documentaries and a lot of photographs yesterday evening and it took ages, mainly due to the fact that the transfer process hangs up the entire device (!) regularly. It seems to happen after about 70 to 80 MB are read into (temporary?) memory and apparently are only then buffered out to the main storage. Let's hope a custom ROM can straighten this issue out...
Thanks. Given these figures, would you install apps on the main memory, if a 30mbps rated micro sd for best performance?
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Thanks. Given these figures, would you install apps on the main memory, if a 30mbps rated micro sd for best performance?
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In my case internal memory is faster than microSD. You don't really have the option, unless you play with the filesystem and mount your MicroSD on /mnt/sdcard instead of /Removable/MicroSD. In the Infinity /mnt/sdcard is just a folder within the internal memory by default (many apps use it though, so they had to arrange it this way). I don't think there is any reason to change this, as internal memory seems faster and that's whole 64GB of it (OK, maybe 56 available, but still a lot..).
Perfect thanks, I thought though that there were current issues with I/O speeds until someone could fix it in a Rom. Or has this been addressed in the new firmware?
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Perfect thanks, I thought though that there were current issues with I/O speeds until someone could fix it in a Rom. Or has this been addressed in the new firmware?
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Hopefully I could tell you in a few days, but honestly I don't think it has (can't try it out yet, as the firmware released is Taiwanese version, and I'm on the World-Wide).
The Infinity is not that far behind other new tablets or rather it's not only TF700's problem, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28416635&postcount=2842
However, after changing the scheduler to sio and doing some tweaks (see my post on it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758160), it's running pretty smoothly (unless you want to do a lot of CPU-heavy jobs while having huge reads or writes in the background, in this case it can get frustrating, but.. there is no real alternative these days).
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Hopefully I could tell you in a few days, but honestly I don't think it has (can't try it out yet, as the firmware released is Taiwanese version, and I'm on the World-Wide).
The Infinity is not that far behind other new tablets or rather it's not only TF700's problem, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28416635&postcount=2842
However, after changing the scheduler to sio and doing some tweaks (see my post on it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758160), it's running pretty smoothly (unless you want to do a lot of CPU-heavy jobs while having huge reads or writes in the background, in this case it can get frustrating, but.. there is no real alternative these days).
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This. As i've ranted earlier, the new firmware provides fixes for camera issues, not for the I/O the TF700 so obviously suffers from. Having said that, it is not like the tablet in itself is useless as it is -- far from it -- but remains a mystery to me why they didn't spot this in advance (like with the Prime's issues with GPS and wifi), It seems like ASUS develops a device by letting several teams work onindividual components, and, when they get their specific part up and running, just put it together and relese it. I have a distinct feeling that neither device was actually and properly tested.
But, still, I'm pretty happy with the device overall.
I think you need to read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767755
From what I see my UHS-1 card that doesn't work is initialized as DDR which means the max speed for the TF700T µSD is 50 MB/s (as that is the only DDR speed).
The full size SD socket uses a USB host so the big question is is it USB 2.0 or 3.0!
All specifications says USB 2.0 for the dock, so I would assume that's correct, even for the TF700 dock.
Asus has finally responded that there is limited UHS-1 support in the µSD slot.
For now you are better off not trying UHS-1 in there. The may come up with a patch...
external memory limits
ishamm said:
does anyone know the max sd card transfer speed of the pad, and the dock?
i am looking at a 128GB SDXC card (yes, its a lot, but this is replacing a dead laptop for the foreseeable future) , UHS-1 60mb/s, or a 45mb/s one. will the UHS card actually have any benefits in the dock, or simply when transfering data to it from the PC.
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Careful there with a 128gig card, I read somewhere that there is a 32 gig upperlimit on recognizing cards and sticks...
tho I do wonder if you formatted it into enough partitions it might read them all?
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Careful there with a 128gig card, I read somewhere that there is a 32 gig upperlimit on recognizing cards and sticks...
tho I do wonder if you formatted it into enough partitions it might read them all?
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If the dock uses a sdhc compatible controller and simply exposes the card as a mass storage device for the system, then there is really no such limit. The SDXC cards which supports >32GB does so due to the SD's FAT specification not for actual addressing and such.
SDXC cards are accessible as SDHC but standard specifies ExFat as default filesystem. This may not work on units not compatible with ExFat, but a reformat will fix that. In the TF700T's case we have already seen users use 64 GB cards breaking that 32GB barrier.
We have also seen the TF700T mount ExFat, although it seems to fallback to NTFS.
The thing he should be carefull of is UHS in the µSD socket as it's still wonky.
In the dock I suspect a UHS card will simply be treated as a normal SDHC card, but UHS cards usually have better class speeds so may be a benefit even with the dock doing USB2.0 hosting.
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To back up my claims see here...
http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2520/~/sd/sdhc/sdxc-specifications-and-compatibility
Been using a 200gb that came free with the purchase of the V20. Gonna pass this off to my son. I'm running out of room and wanna carry more. This 400gb should give me enough room. ?
Anybody else using one in the v30/+?
All set up. 367gb free. I can pretty much use the internal 128gb for whatever phone wise (apps), and this for the downloads and music (I store mine locally). I do have a streaming account though, but prefer my collection on my SD card.
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All set up. 367gb free. I can pretty much use the internal 128gb for whatever phone wise (apps), and this for the downloads and music (I store mine locally). I do have a streaming account though, but prefer my collection on my SD card.
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I like my music on the phone also. Which card did you get?
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I like my music on the phone also. Which card did you get?
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Sandisk Ultra 400GB Micro SDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter.
Some reason it won't post the link. Search for that on Amazon.
20degrees said:
Sandisk Ultra 400GB Micro SDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter.
Some reason it won't post the link. Search for that on Amazon.
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Thanks. Found them. Probably go with the 200 GB.
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Thanks. Found them. Probably go with the 200 GB.
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The Samsung cards are really good too. They offer a 256gb.
20degrees said:
All set up. 367gb free. I can pretty much use the internal 128gb for whatever phone wise (apps), and this for the downloads and music (I store mine locally). I do have a streaming account though, but prefer my collection on my SD card.
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Wow. 400GB.
Here's the link you couldn't post for some reason, if other people need it:
Sandisk Ultra 400GB Micro SDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter - SDSQUAR-400G-GN6MA
https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Ultr...21160&sr=8-2&keywords=400gb+microsd+card&th=1
Also, other size choices on that page.
My last three phones (gen3 Galaxy Nexus, LG Nexus 5, Moto XT1225) didn't have microSD cards, although the 2014 Moto XT1225 (unofficial smaller version of the Moto Nexus 6) did have 64GB internal storage. I ordered a 256GB card from that page -- which eventually will be in addition to my 128GB V30+ when it comes.
Now trying to decide what my wife's LG V30 will get. That 200GB is only $73 right now and looks very tempting for her phone.
ChazzMatt said:
Wow. 400GB.
Here's the link you couldn't post for some reason, if other people need it:
Sandisk Ultra 400GB Micro SDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter - SDSQUAR-400G-GN6MA
https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Ultr...21160&sr=8-2&keywords=400gb+microsd+card&th=1
Also, other size choices on that page.
My last three phones (gen3 Galaxy Nexus, LG Nexus 5, Moto XT1225) didn't have microSD cards, although the 2014 Moto XT1225 (unofficial smaller version of the Moto Nexus 6) did have 64GB internal storage. I ordered a 256GB card from that page -- which eventually will be in addition to my 128GB V30+ when it comes.
Now trying to decide what my wife's LG V30 will get. That 200GB is only $73 right now and looks very tempting for her phone.
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$73 for a 200gb doesn't seem bad, it's actually a way better value compared to the 400gb. But I was going for size. My 200gb held up well for the time I used it though.
20degrees said:
All set up. 367gb free. I can pretty much use the internal 128gb for whatever phone wise (apps), and this for the downloads and music (I store mine locally). I do have a streaming account though, but prefer my collection on my SD card.
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Could you please test what's the write speed of this card for constant transfer?
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Could you please test what's the write speed of this card for constant transfer?
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Using "A1 SD Bench" gives the results posted below. My PC doesn't have USB 3.0 yet as this spring is my lustrum update year for the motherboard, ram and CPU. So it's not really worth testing on there.
Edit: Results posted on the following post. I forgot to attach them and edit mode didn't give me the option of doing so.
Forgot results.
If anyone wants some stats on the card here is an post from the V20 forum and what I got of test:
Okay I got the Card of SanDisk Ultra micro SDXC UHS-I Card 400 GB "Well actually less then 400 GB because of companies continuously lies which seems to be of no end to it" and it is running much faster then my old samsung 128 evo or evo+. It's not running as fast as your 128 GB samsung pro+ but anyway il find the results. Iv made test with 3 programs on the V20.
First one is A1 SD Bench which you used:
Read 78.14 MB/s - Write 41,21MB/s
Read 78,19MB/s - Write 41,37MB/s
Read 79,45MB/s - Write 42,97MB/s
Read 78,50MB/s - Write 41,07MB/s
Then SD Card Test
Read 88 MB/s - Write 42 MB/s
Read 87 MB/s - Write 42 MB/s
Read 88 MB/s - Write 40 MB/s
Read 89 MB/s - Write 42 MB/s
and last without any advertising AndroBench:
Read 84.16 MB/s - Write 46,59 MB/s
Read 84.39 MB/s - Write 50,16 MB/s
Read 84.81 MB/s - Write 53,23 MB/s
Read 84.25 MB/s - Write 55,9 MB/s
As you can see the write is far from as good as the Card you had of 128 GB... But of cause this is 400 GB and still a good deal faster then my old ones I had. Put a lot of stuff on it already. I also found out my Laptop is getting old as it corrupts the image of the UHD video when playing.... My Mobile seems to actually have more juice in that department then my laptop as it runs fine on the mobile. I tested which quality I wanted to run on my mobile for best video results and used the Pagan New Year in the Winter for it. I did a look at it yesterday and It seems FHD and 60 frames a second gave the best results on the V20.
Jesus is God Almighty said:
"Well actually less then 400 GB because of companies continuously lies which seems to be of no end to it"
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Flash memory has a finite number of writes to each page before they 'wear out' to some headroom is required to spread out the read/write cycles and manage the storage. This headroom is the difference between the actual size of the card and the amount you get to use. It's called wear levelling. An explanation can be found on Wikipedia.
400GB is a lot! If you use a program like Aftiss (which is on the forums, just give it a quick search) and use the setting "0" when formatting the card, that whole 400GB will turn into Internal Storage. I have it set up that way on my Verizon V30 with a 128GB microSD Card. Just do a backup beforehand just in case anything goes wrong (which it shouldn't.)
Charbleach said:
400GB is a lot! If you use a program like Aftiss (which is on the forums, just give it a quick search) and use the setting "0" when formatting the card, that whole 400GB will turn into Internal Storage. I have it set up that way on my Verizon V30 with a 128GB microSD Card. Just do a backup beforehand just in case anything goes wrong (which it shouldn't.)
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Can you eject the card and use it elsewhere to modify its contents?
20degrees said:
Can you eject the card and use it elsewhere to modify its contents?
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i want to know this too
20degrees said:
Can you eject the card and use it elsewhere to modify its contents?
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bountyman334 said:
i want to know this too
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Probably not since the microSD becomes the internal storage where all of the "active" system & app files (user changes) are stored
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the following should explain it
https://fossbytes.com/android-sd-card-internal-storage-adoptable-storage/
so it might be possible, but there are possible consequences (data corruption, system messed up, etc.) - a reject beforehand is highly recommended
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Can you eject the card and use it elsewhere to modify its contents?
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Oops! Didn't see this reply. You are not able to remove the SD Card, well at least not recommended to, because if you removed it and some apps had placed necessary files on it, they won't be able to run. I would strongly recommend against it just because of the dangers that could come with it.
PaulNexus7 said:
Flash memory has a finite number of writes to each page before they 'wear out' to some headroom is required to spread out the read/write cycles and manage the storage. This headroom is the difference between the actual size of the card and the amount you get to use. It's called wear levelling. An explanation can be found on Wikipedia.
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Most harddrive makers and memory card makers has always cheated with the real amount of space.
The last company I know that kept the rules of real storage was IBM who made the Deathstars as they sadly ended up being known by. They then sold there harddrive line to another company, Hitachi or something I think it was. But the thing is when you bought a 20, 40 GB or 60 GB harddrive from IBM you actually got those GB and no cheating.
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Charbleach said:
400GB is a lot! If you use a program like Aftiss (which is on the forums, just give it a quick search) and use the setting "0" when formatting the card, that whole 400GB will turn into Internal Storage. I have it set up that way on my Verizon V30 with a 128GB microSD Card. Just do a backup beforehand just in case anything goes wrong (which it shouldn't.)
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I rather not as I many times pop it out and into my computer - I don't have time for the stupidity of connecting the phone to the computer and having all these issues with it which should not have been. So mostly because of frustration I end up just popping the SD out of the phone and putting it directly into my computer. Then you can do multiple things on it without any error popping up and have top speed.
I'm using the 400GB with my v30+ simply for Rom back-ups and storing my music.