I try few roms and always have miscellaneous bug and wifi constantly on..
This is with unofficial cm 12 still on the phone.
Most if not all aosp 5.0.1 ROMs should not have a miscellaneous bug... I have never had an issue with WiFi always on. In currently running the latest optipop by @Cl3Kener
I know that is why i am not sure why i have it i flash this rom this afternoon so it is 5.0.1 but bug is here.
any rom using 5.0/0.1 binaries shouldnt have that. such as rastapop, slim lp, ls lp and so on
Will try rastapop now and see what will happen.
There is no such thing as a miscellaneous bug. Miscellaneous is not a bug.
The difference is that miscellaneous is either hidden or is not hidden. Battery use is the same. That's it. There is no bug.
From http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2973480
rootSU said:
Its really simple and basic and is in no way "drain". If the big wall of text in the screenshot doesn't clarify what it is, then I will elaborate further.
All your battery stats are guessed calculations. They're never accurate. Never have been and never will be.
Here's how battery stats work.
In android, there is a file. It lists "power consumption" for certain things.
For example (and these numbers are made up because i can't be bothered to look in the code)
WiFi disconnected = 4mA
WiFi connected = 10mA
So if your phone has been connected to WiFi for 10 hours, it calculates that 10 hours @10ma = x% of battery used.
However, what if you're in your bedroom for 10 hours? The router is in your living room. Actually your WiFi is using 20mA because of the weal signal. Well, this magic file cannot account for that. There is no "WiFi connected but user is in bedroom = 20mA" entry in the file.
Battery stats actually have no link to actual battery usage. Its just a guess. Battery stats knows how much battery has been used and using its magic file, makes an educated guess at how much % battery has been used by each thing.
So your battery has depleted by 50%. 25% is WiFi connected at 10mA. But your WiFi was actually using 20mA because of distance. Battery stats cannot know this. So you actually have 25% missing in battery stats. That's what miscellaneous was created for. To show that there was a difference between battery stats guess and actual battery use from the battery.
Its the same for screen brightness, cell signal, CPU usage etc. The file knows very little. Battery stats is very inaccurate
Google actually removed miscellaneous from stock ROMs due to people who don't understand, calling it a WiFi bug. However it still exists in aosp.
I hope think clarifies for people
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There is no such thing as a miscellaneous bug. Miscellaneous is not a bug.
The difference is that miscellaneous is either hidden or is not hidden. Battery use is the same. That's it. There is no bug.
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You may as well add these two Github links to your text file:
From Google: Skip Misc/Overcounted battery stats in release builds.
Custom ROM feature: Settings: make unaccounted and over-counted battery usage configurable
Lethargy said:
You may as well add these two Github links to your text file:
From Google: Skip Misc/Overcounted battery stats in release builds.
Custom ROM feature: Settings: make unaccounted and over-counted battery usage configurable
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Thanks. Will do. I haven't actually committed this to ever note yet but will soon. I'm waiting for some screen shots (I have this feature in slim lap to hide misc) before I do...
So this mean that maybe is time to change my battery.
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So this mean that maybe is time to change my battery.
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No. It means nothing. Just that there is no bug. Your battery will last the same amount of time on a rom that shows misc as a rom that does not show misc.
I have free fall on battery that is not happen before and my phone is one year i will let rom settle few days yo see if something change if not will order new battery from amazon. I never have this problem with kitkat.
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I have free fall on battery that is not happen before and my phone is one year i will let rom settle few days yo see if something change if not will order new battery from amazon. I never have this problem with kitkat.
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Because Misc. wasn't a thing in KK? lol
Because battery i believe is bad.
@Lethargy, thinking of commiting this to my evernote to reuse. Mind proof reading it for me please?
THere is no "Misc bug" or "WiFi Bug" related to misc
Its really simple and basic and is in no way "drain". All your battery stats are guessed calculations. They're never accurate. They never have been and never will be.
How battery stats work
The Battery stats UI shows the percentage of battery that device elements are responsible for using, which is based on a couple of things.
1./data/system/batterystats.bin
2./system/frameworks/frameworks-res.apk/res/xml/power_profile.xml
These things contribute in the following way:
1.From the moment Android detects that a close-to-full charge has completed, batterystats.bin records how long the device elements are running
3.This xml file is where the information about how much power, each device element “uses”
The battery stats UI looks at batterystats.bin to see how long each element has been running (and in what state) since the last charge, applies the value (in mV) for each element stored in power_profiles.xml and comes up with a calculation of the % of battery each element is using.
It simply knows the total mV used by adding up all the element values and the time in state to work out the percentages.
Here is a really basic example…
power_profile.xml from the SNexus 5
Code:
0
82.75
201.16
51.55z
0.79
3.5
73.24
75.48
0.1
0.1
76.23
185.19
99.2
batterystats.bin
Code:
screen.on = 2 h
bluetooth.active = 3 h
bluetooth.on = 7 h
wifi.on = 6 h
wifi.active = 4 h
So, if….
Code:
screen.on = 165.5
bluetooth.active = 154.65
bluetooth.on = 5.53
wifi.on = 21
wifi.active = 292.96
Total = 639.64
Then…
Code:
screen.on = 26%
bluetooth.active = 24%
bluetooth.on = 1%
wifi.on = 3%
wifi.active = 46%
Total = 100%
That was a basic example of how the Battery Stats UI makes it’s calculations. Notice how the total is 100%? Well in KK and earlier this was the case. The Battery Stats UI calculated to 100%. So even if you had only used 50% of your battery, it would show that device elements had used 100% of your 50% used battery.
This meant that as it always had to add up to 100%, it didn't have to be particularly accurate. It takes the values and calculations it knows about and works the portion of that 100% each known value has taken. It knows that 639.64 is 100% therefore wifi at 292.96 must be 46%....
Since Lollipop, it has changed and makes it more difficult for battery stats UI to be so blase about its accuracy. Now it attempts to show you what "actual" percentage of battery has been used. For example, if 50% of your battery has been used, the total of percentage used by device elements will also show as 50%. However, now that the total % of elements might not match the total % of battery used, it is much harder to hide how inaccurate battery stats actually are.
So to elaborate on that further, lets say that your Nexus 5 battery is 4720 mV in capacity. The actual battery % in status bar is calculated by reading the actual current battery reading from the battery itself and working out the %, so in the example above, 14% battery has been used (639.64 is 14% of 4720 - or more accurately 13.55%)
So...
Code:
screen.on = 3.6%
bluetooth.active = 3.4%
bluetooth.on = 0.05%
wifi.on = 0.5%
wifi.active = 6%
Total = 13.55%
Why are they never accurate?
So battery % in status bar takes a reading from the actual battery, but battery stats just add up what they recorded multiplied by the Power_profile.xml values.
Looking at the power_profile.xml file, you'll see for example, wifi - there is an "on" value and an "active" value. There are just 2 states. However, what if your router is in your living room and you are in the bedroom? WiFi Active may not be 76.23 at all. Due to weak signal, it may be 150.... But battery stats is not aware that it may be using 150.... So it calculates using 76.23
This is where it gets a little more complicated. Lets go back to these calculations, but factor in the new 150 value for bedroom wifi active
batterystats.bin
Code:
screen.on = 2 h
bluetooth.active = 3 h
bluetooth.on = 7 h
wifi.on = 6 h
wifi.active = 2 h
wifi.active.InBedroom = 2 h
So, if….
Code:
screen.on = 165.5
bluetooth.active = 154.65
bluetooth.on = 5.53
wifi.on = 21
wifi.active = 152.46
wifi.active.InBedroom = 300
Total = 799.14
So that is what ACTUALLY happened. But Battery Stats doesn't know.. because the power_profile.xml does not really have the InBedroom entry at all. So battery stats shows that a total 639.64 of battery has been used, however the physical battery reports that 799.14 has been used. So the battery % in the status bar is 100% - 17%, = 83%.... 17% has been used but our earlier stats (that don't show the fake inbedroom value) show the total used is only 13.55% - there is a discrepancy here...
Well, since lollipop, that discrepancy has to be accounted for to make the battery stats appear more accurate, so the 159.50 difference that is unaccounted for (The Wifi InBedroom), now will appear as "Miscellaneous". This makes battery stats show that 17% total battery has been used, to match the status bar and not 13.55% as per the total added up from Power_profile.xml...
THis is not just the case with WiFI, but with everything from Screen brightness, to bluetooth to cell reception.
Why does misc show on some roms and not others
You may remember a while back that people were reporting the WiFi bug to google.. Well, simply - they probably got fed up and hid misc in Stock ROMS. No stock roms on the Nexus 5 show misc anymore. They just have calculations that no longer add up in total to the amount of % used of your battery
Some people have accused google of "hiding" the bug. What we're saying is that there is NO BUG and they hid misc, which is what caused people to think there was a bug in the first place.
The Misc battery report is still in AOSP code, however some roms have also decided to hide it, such as SlimRoms for example.
You can see their changes here:
From Google: https://github.com/SlimRoms/packages_apps_Settings/commit/e6793771cedb47aed72f1c64f870b70357746938
Custom ROM feature: https://github.com/SimpleAOSP-Lolli...mmit/d025994f90722139dfcf236f275e05236ec47491
Here is an example on SlimLP with the option turned on and off
Summary
There is no such thing as a "misc bug" or "WiFi bug". Android tries to calculate the amount of battery used by each device element, based on a very finite list of values. Since the values are pre-determined in a file, it is not an accurate refelection of reality. When these values in reality are higher than the file, it makes the Battery Stats show a lower % than reality being used by the elements (most easily seen in wifi). To make the elements total match the actual % used from the battery, Misc was created to fill in that discrepancy - However, since people thought it was a bug due to lack of understanding, it has since been hidden. But it is not a bug.
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@Lethargy, thinking of commiting this to my evernote to reuse. Mind proof reading it for me please?
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Here we go: http://pastebin.com/htnd4hhq
Quite long so maybe make this a thread, then have a much shorter, basic summary with a link to the full post?
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Here we go: http://pastebin.com/htnd4hhq
Quite long so maybe make this a thread, then have a much shorter, basic summary with a link to the full post?
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I just rewrote it slightly...
I don't want to make it a thread really. Whenever I make a thread, I seem to get challenged by some members about it's accuracy and to be honest, it's getting a bit boring. Not that I mind being challenged. I write my threads in such a way that they make sense by over simplifying stuff which sometimes makes them technically inaccurate to an extent to make it understandable. However, every time I create a thread, I end up spending half my time explaining why I wrote what I wrote in the way that I did, so i'm just gonna do what I do with some other responses and make them an Ever note pastable answer.
But the answer is acceptable to you?
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I just rewrote it slightly...
I don't want to make it a thread really. Whenever I make a thread, I seem to get challenged by some members about it's accuracy and to be honest, it's getting a bit boring. Not that I mind being challenged. I write my threads in such a way that they make sense by over simplifying stuff which sometimes makes them technically inaccurate to an extent to make it understandable. However, every time I create a thread, I end up spending half my time explaining why I wrote what I wrote in the way that I did, so i'm just gonna do what I do with some other responses and make them an Ever note pastable answer.
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Haha, yeah.
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But the answer is acceptable to you?
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Yup
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Haha, yeah.
Yup
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Cool, thanks for your time and input. As always, much appreciated.
Nice explanation i have one more question according to miscellaneous report power that battery produce is way smaller than power use and my battery charge time is always 40-50 minutes from 10% battery lvl.
I have same application as on kitkat all up to date. That is why i'm suspicious that my battery need to be replaced.
kojoti2 said:
Nice explanation i have one more question according to miscellaneous report power that battery produce is way smaller than power use and my battery charge time is always 40-50 minutes from 10% battery lvl.
I have same application as on kitkat all up to date. That is why i'm suspicious that my battery need to be replaced.
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My advice to you is forget about miscellaneous all together. Your graph looks like you have a problem but I have no idea what the cause is. Misc is only showing because android doesn't know what it is.
I would consider doing a full factory reset and running it "blank" for few days, running apps like gsam or bbs to see what is going on - probably on stock rom.... It could be that your battery is indeed problematic, but I think its best to disassociate that with misc etc and look at it objectively.
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Well after 2 days of testing the xxkb3 battery usage which I have been talking about as great is a false perception, whats happening is that the battery indicator is not actually updating the real status thus showing good battery life.
I reported earlier that in ideal mode 12hrs night time its only consuming 2% that's not true, whats happening is that the moment i start using the handset in morning just after few mins I noticed a sharp drop in battery status I got confused the 1st day of test so did it another day & noticed the same behavior, hence installed battery Notifier (big text) which shows directly in the status bar & that showed a mismatch since this morning.
Here are few screenshot at 80% actual battery the icon is still showing me full charge to make me believe that its a good battery......now is it a bug in xxkb3 which should be reported or any way to correct it? DDKB1 which i was using earlier never had this problem.
The Green text at left is the battery notifier.
Dude i dont think its a problem.
The indicator changes according to the % of battery remaining. The default status indicator will have only a total of 4 to 5 stages of indication.
above 80 - state 1
above 60 - state 2
above 40 - state 3
above 20 - state 4
less than 10 - state 5.
For example
if % is above 80 , then the indicator will show full.
if it is in between 60 to 79 then it will show some changes.
Im using battery status widget to monitor battery as it gives more info on the battery status.
if % is above 80 , then the indicator will show full.
if it is in between 60 to 79 then it will show some changes.
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yes that is what happening so you confirm that its normal. I will test it for few more days, do we have any app which can graphically plot the battery stats?
Yes, this is normal, you can check this battery indicator out it's pretty detailed - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8639993
Or, you can replace the default indicator - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724778
Thanks a lot
I have been hunting for that app in the market but could not find any such app there.
sgsI9003 said:
yes that is what happening so you confirm that its normal. I will test it for few more days, do we have any app which can graphically plot the battery stats?
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Try JuicePlotter from the market!
btw, dont these battery indicator apps themselves drain battery quite too much?
bala_gamer said:
Dude i dont think its a problem.
The indicator changes according to the % of battery remaining. The default status indicator will have only a total of 4 to 5 stages of indication.
above 80 - state 1
above 60 - state 2
above 40 - state 3
above 20 - state 4
less than 10 - state 5.
For example
if % is above 80 , then the indicator will show full.
if it is in between 60 to 79 then it will show some changes.
Im using battery status widget to monitor battery as it gives more info on the battery status.
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......and it is the same in KB1 as well. It is the normal behavior. @sgsI9003 Now the point is why the battery indicator (the stock blue one) suddenly drops when u start using it.
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......and it is the same in KB1 as well. It is the normal behavior. @sgsI9003 Now the point is why the battery indicator (the stock blue one) suddenly drops when u start using it.
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My guess is that at till 80 it wont show any drain & & then when I use for 30 mins assume it consumed another 10% so suddenly I see a drop of 30% bcoz the 1st 20% was not even showing at that time & I use to wonder how come 30 mins using consumes so much battery?
Now all is sorted out with these numerical indicators. After 3 days of testing I can say that xxkb3 has better battery life on ideal /standby if you use the phone just for calling it can last easily 48+ hrs, with web surfing, mail access & other multimedia usage it would last 12-24hours only depending upon how much its being used.
Another testing now reveled that each night I have different amount of drain which I assume that its due to radio signal interaction. Best practice is to switch off or put to airplane mode to conserve battery or have an app which can follow a time schedule to do this automatically.
Dude! why don't u try battery solo widget (free version from the market). It looks awesome & consumes around 2.9mb of ram with negligible cpu. so hardly any effect on the battery life.
For battery solo widget I have always had to go back to home screen to look the status but with battery Notifier (big text) I can see it always in real time on the notification bar.
I have problem on my Note 10.1,.when is my battery on 5 % i get low brightness.Does anyone know how to fix this,to set brightness on max when is battery low????
Samsung galaxy note 10.1 n8000 4.1.2
dekar123 said:
I have problem on my Note 10.1,.when is my battery on 5 % i get low brightness.Does anyone know how to fix this,to set brightness on max when is battery low????
Samsung galaxy note 10.1 n8000 4.1.2
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that's a feature. Charge it
shaun298 said:
that's a feature. Charge it
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how???? im unable to change brightness when battery is 5 %
dekar123 said:
how???? im unable to change brightness when battery is 5 %
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Dud, just charge it up.
Aluyi said:
Dud, just charge it up.
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It's not a solution,my chinese 9` inch tablet whith 5 % off battery could stand mabye 20 minutes,is that on all note 10`1 tablets???
Does anyone know how to get full brightness when my battery is 5 %???????
There is no way to change it.
It propably protects the battery to become too empty without getting your device plugged in time. "Too empty" means that sometimes if you drain your litium battery empty totally, it wont start to charge it at all. So it is there for protecting you and your device without having next problem not being able to charge it.
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There is no way to change it.
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Have you ever investigated this subject that you are so sure? If you cannot do it - don't assume that no one can.
I don't also see any relation between dimming the screen and protecting the battery of getting broken. If 5% level is a level on which the battery should be charged because of the damage risk, then it would be absurd to dim the screen (ie take an action aimed at saving the remaining power so the user can work a few minutes longer on the last remaining 5% until it reaches 0 or 1% = drain battery even more = in your theory: increasing the risk of the damage even more), and not to turn off the device at all. Be aware, that Samsung indeed implemented a protection aimed to secure the user of the risk of breaking the battery (well, I don't think it's the clue anyway - iI guess the main purpose is in preserving user of data loss/filesystem corruption, which is possible to occur when the system is being shutdown in an "immediate" way, without chance to perform shutdown sequence properly) due to full discharge, but it is triggered on 0 - 1% level and is resulting in starting a "regular" system shutdown, aimed mainly to save all the working data before user loses it *** See comment at the very end of my post for additional info about changing this behavior, which is confirmed to work by myself...
It is almost ALWAYS possible to mod behavior of the system, especially by decompiling system apps and modyfing smali, which is not extremely difficult/impossible by the way, as the community has released such a solutions for many issues/feature requests, concerning even n8000 itself (ink lockscreen, syscope disable, power menu, flashable themes...).
In this case, I can see another possibility, which is even less intrusive to the system; AFAIR the percentage level of 5% is not embedded in some system or framework app, but it is defined in one of the system's apps preferences (guess settings provider? dont remember...), in sqlite database. And sqlite database can be easily accessed and its content can be modified by sqlite tools, ie sqlite3 binary from command line, and even some apps from play store. Then, you shall be able to lower the value to, for example, 1%, so the screen backlight will be turned off with further delay, ie. at REALLY critical power level of 1%..
EDIT: Didn't found above setting, dont have time for this, but found another one (at database lying at com.android.provider.settings) - "dim_screen" which is set 1 by default. Maybe changing it to 0 with any SQL editor will force NOT to dim screen at all.
An for the begin, I have a solution that is very very very possible to work...
As for now, I have not tested it, especially if the critical battery level setting (default 5%) has direct relation to the battery level on which screen is dimmed, but I am ALMOST sure about it, as the crtitical level setting that I am talking about (no matter where it is stored...) is recognized system-wide.
Oh, almost forgot, the solution!!!
Install Xposed Framework (search for it on xda if u dunno what it is) + module XBatteryThemer - apart of other options, it has the option to lower critical battery level (as well as two other levels, which determine displaying the low battery alert popup) to as low as 1%. Your screen shall no longer dim at 5%.
*** actually, there is another one Xposed module (CriticalBatteryShutdown, or something...?) which can force the device not to turn off when battery reaches some level between 0 and 1%, which is arbitrary action by default. With this mod the device is working untile theres really no power left, which sometimes can give you additional 10 minutes. A
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Does anyone know how to get full brightness when my battery is 5 %???????
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Please correct me if I´m wrong, does that make sense to you if your battery is 5% and you thinking of raising the slider higher ? Maybe you should check your energy saving settings. My two cents.
esgie said:
Have you ever investigated this subject that you are so sure? If you cannot do it - don't assume that no one can.
I don't also see any relation between dimming the screen and protecting the battery of getting broken. If 5% level is a level on which the battery should be charged because of the damage risk, then it would be absurd to dim the screen (ie take an action aimed at saving the remaining power so the user can work a few minutes longer on the last remaining 5% until it reaches 0 or 1% = drain battery even more = in your theory: increasing the risk of the damage even more), and not to turn off the device at all. Be aware, that Samsung indeed implemented a protection aimed to secure the user of the risk of breaking the battery (well, I don't think it's the clue anyway - iI guess the main purpose is in preserving user of data loss/filesystem corruption, which is possible to occur when the system is being shutdown in an "immediate" way, without chance to perform shutdown sequence properly) due to full discharge, but it is triggered on 0 - 1% level and is resulting in starting a "regular" system shutdown, aimed mainly to save all the working data before user loses it *** See comment at the very end of my post for additional info about changing this behavior, which is confirmed to work by myself...
It is almost ALWAYS possible to mod behavior of the system, especially by decompiling system apps and modyfing smali, which is not extremely difficult/impossible by the way, as the community has released such a solutions for many issues/feature requests, concerning even n8000 itself (ink lockscreen, syscope disable, power menu, flashable themes...).
In this case, I can see another possibility, which is even less intrusive to the system; AFAIR the percentage level of 5% is not embedded in some system or framework app, but it is defined in one of the system's apps preferences (guess settings provider? dont remember...), in sqlite database. And sqlite database can be easily accessed and its content can be modified by sqlite tools, ie sqlite3 binary from command line, and even some apps from play store. Then, you shall be able to lower the value to, for example, 1%, so the screen backlight will be turned off with further delay, ie. at REALLY critical power level of 1%..
EDIT: Didn't found above setting, dont have time for this, but found another one (at database lying at com.android.provider.settings) - "dim_screen" which is set 1 by default. Maybe changing it to 0 with any SQL editor will force NOT to dim screen at all.
An for the begin, I have a solution that is very very very possible to work...
As for now, I have not tested it, especially if the critical battery level setting (default 5%) has direct relation to the battery level on which screen is dimmed, but I am ALMOST sure about it, as the crtitical level setting that I am talking about (no matter where it is stored...) is recognized system-wide.
Oh, almost forgot, the solution!!!
Install Xposed Framework (search for it on xda if u dunno what it is) + module XBatteryThemer - apart of other options, it has the option to lower critical battery level (as well as two other levels, which determine displaying the low battery alert popup) to as low as 1%. Your screen shall no longer dim at 5%.
*** actually, there is another one Xposed module (CriticalBatteryShutdown, or something...?) which can force the device not to turn off when battery reaches some level between 0 and 1%, which is arbitrary action by default. With this mod the device is working untile theres really no power left, which sometimes can give you additional 10 minutes. A
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Did I say that 5% is the minimum level? No, I didnt. All I said it is, it gives you more time and IF you drain your battery EMPTY, it may not charge. Of course there are self-protection manager already, but as you know, they dont always work as they should. There are several questions on net what to do when the phone doesnt start charging because they drained the battery to a state to auto-shut off. I dont understand why anyone would like to drain the battery almost empty and in a bad scenario you have a dead battery. Will it happen with your device? Maybe or maybe not. And it is not even healthy for a lithium battery to let it full disharged/cycled on everytime.
And yes I have read that there are apps that allows you to change this but only if your device is rooted. Never tried, mine is not rooted.
This will explain it very well: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1 (N8000).
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Aluyi said:
Please correct me if I´m wrong, does that make sense to you if your battery is 5% and you thinking of raising the slider higher ? Maybe you should check your energy saving settings. My two cents.
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No, you cannot set the brightness by a slider when the battery level is 5%. It automatically goes to a state to save the battery. It is built in the system.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1 (N8000).
What is causing all of the misc battery drain on these ROMs? I have tried about 6 different ones and all have been giving me drain. Can anyone suggest a ROM that doesn't suffer the drain?
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What is causing all of the misc battery drain on these ROMs? I have tried about 6 different ones and all have been giving me drain. Can anyone suggest a ROM that doesn't suffer the drain?
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Tap on Misc. and read what it actually is.
It doesn't really tell me
brandon5132 said:
It doesn't really tell me
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Yes it does.
The only thing it tells you is that battery drain is greater than would typically be expected based on calculated usage. A few thoughts, have you tried the stock ROM, as most ROMs for lolly pop are at an early development stage, with quite a few issues. Are you testing on a fresh install without any additional apps installed. Could be a specific app that does not play well with lollipop. I know a lot of people have reported battery problems with cyanogenMod and asop ROMs
Its really simple and basic and is in no way "drain". If the big wall of text in the screenshot doesn't clarify what it is, then I will elaborate further.
All your battery stats are guessed calculations. They're never accurate. Never have been and never will be.
Here's how battery stats work.
In android, there is a file. It lists "power consumption" for certain things.
For example (and these numbers are made up because i can't be bothered to look in the code)
WiFi disconnected = 4mA
WiFi connected = 10mA
So if your phone has been connected to WiFi for 10 hours, it calculates that 10 hours @10ma = x% of battery used.
However, what if you're in your bedroom for 10 hours? The router is in your living room. Actually your WiFi is using 20mA because of the weal signal. Well, this magic file cannot account for that. There is no "WiFi connected but user is in bedroom = 20mA" entry in the file.
Battery stats actually have no link to actual battery usage. Its just a guess. Battery stats knows how much battery has been used and using its magic file, makes an educated guess at how much % battery has been used by each thing.
So your battery has depleted by 50%. 25% is WiFi connected at 10mA. But your WiFi was actually using 20mA because of distance. Battery stats cannot know this. So you actually have 25% missing in battery stats. That's what miscellaneous was created for. To show that there was a difference between battery stats guess and actual battery use from the battery.
Its the same for screen brightness, cell signal, CPU usage etc. The file knows very little. Battery stats is very inaccurate
Google actually removed miscellaneous from stock ROMs due to people who don't understand, calling it a WiFi bug. However it still exists in aosp.
I hope think clarifies for people
Thank you that cleared up a lot for me.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
brandon5132 said:
Thank you that cleared up a lot for me.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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No probs.
This still happens? I've not seen this since the official release?
Ben36 said:
This still happens? I've not seen this since the official release?
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As per my post, it's been removed from Stock releases. It still exists (and rightly so IMHO) on AOSP roms. Shouldn't have been taken from stock, but they had to shut up all the complainers some how.
rootSU said:
Its really simple and basic and is in no way "drain". If the big wall of text in the screenshot doesn't clarify what it is, then I will elaborate further.
All your battery stats are guessed calculations. They're never accurate. Never have been and never will be.
Here's how battery stats work.
In android, there is a file. It lists "power consumption" for certain things.
For example (and these numbers are made up because i can't be bothered to look in the code)
WiFi disconnected = 4mA
WiFi connected = 10mA
So if your phone has been connected to WiFi for 10 hours, it calculates that 10 hours @10ma = x% of battery used.
However, what if you're in your bedroom for 10 hours? The router is in your living room. Actually your WiFi is using 20mA because of the weal signal. Well, this magic file cannot account for that. There is no "WiFi connected but user is in bedroom = 20mA" entry in the file.
Battery stats actually have no link to actual battery usage. Its just a guess. Battery stats knows how much battery has been used and using its magic file, makes an educated guess at how much % battery has been used by each thing.
So your battery has depleted by 50%. 25% is WiFi connected at 10mA. But your WiFi was actually using 20mA because of distance. Battery stats cannot know this. So you actually have 25% missing in battery stats. That's what miscellaneous was created for. To show that there was a difference between battery stats guess and actual battery use from the battery.
Its the same for screen brightness, cell signal, CPU usage etc. The file knows very little. Battery stats is very inaccurate
Google actually removed miscellaneous from stock ROMs due to people who don't understand, calling it a WiFi bug. However it still exists in aosp.
I hope think clarifies for people
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@rootSU,
I am going to steal this, while still giving you credit, to assist while trying to explain to new users why android does what it does.
You have the best explanation I've ever read. Thank you.
ghostryder12 said:
@rootSU,
I am going to steal this, while still giving you credit, to assist while trying to explain to new users why android does what it does.
You have the best explanation I've ever read. Thank you.
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ghostryder12 said:
@rootSU,
I am going to steal this, while still giving you credit, to assist while trying to explain to new users why android does what it does.
You have the best explanation I've ever read. Thank you.
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Please feel free. However, that's an old revision. Below is what I'll be posting from now on. Feel free to.use either
There is no "Misc bug" or "WiFi Bug" related to misc
Its really simple and basic and is in no way "drain".* All your battery stats are guessed calculations. They're never accurate. They never have been and never will be.
How battery stats work
The Battery stats UI shows the percentage of battery that device elements are responsible for using, which is based on a couple of things.
1./data/system/batterystats.bin
2./system/frameworks/frameworks-res.apk/res/xml/power_profile.xml
These things contribute in the following way:
1.From the moment Android detects that a close-to-full charge has completed, batterystats.bin records how long the device elements are running
2.This xml file is where the information about how much power, each device element “uses”
The battery stats UI looks at batterystats.bin to see how long each element has been running (and in what state) since the last charge, applies the value (in mV) for each element stored in power_profiles.xml and comes up with a calculation of the % of battery each element is using.
It simply knows the total mV used by adding up all the element values and the time in state to work out the percentages.
Here is a really basic example…
power_profile.xml from the SNexus 5
Code:
<item name="none">0</item>
<item name="screen.on">82.75</item>
<item name="screen.full">201.16</item>
<item name="bluetooth.active">51.55</item>
<item name="bluetooth.on">0.79</item>
<item name="wifi.on">3.5</item>
<item name="wifi.active">73.24</item>
<item name="wifi.scan">75.48</item>
<item name="dsp.audio">0.1</item>
<item name="dsp.video">0.1</item>
<item name="gps.on">76.23</item>
<item name="radio.active">185.19</item>
<item name="radio.scanning">99.2</item>
batterystats.bin
Code:
*** screen.on = 2 h
*** bluetooth.active = 3 h
*** bluetooth.on = 7 h
*** wifi.on = 6 h
*** wifi.active = 4 h
So, if….
Code:
*** screen.on = 165.5
*** bluetooth.active = 154.65
*** bluetooth.on = 5.53
*** wifi.on = 21
*** wifi.active = 292.96
*** Total = 639.64
Then…*
Code:
*** screen.on = 26%
*** bluetooth.active = 24%
*** bluetooth.on = 1%
*** wifi.on = 3%
*** wifi.active = 46%
*** Total = 100%
That was a basic example of how the Battery Stats UI makes it’s calculations.* Notice how the total is 100%? Well in KK and earlier this was the case.* The Battery Stats UI calculated to 100%.* So even if you had only used 50% of your battery, it would show that device elements had used 100% of your 50% used battery.
This meant that as it always had to add up to 100%, it didn't have to be particularly accurate.* It takes the values and calculations it knows about and works the portion of that 100% each known value has taken.* It knows that 639.64 is 100% therefore wifi at 292.96 must be 46%....
Since Lollipop, it has changed and makes it more difficult for battery stats UI to be so blase about its accuracy.* Now it attempts to show you what "actual" percentage of battery has been used.* For example, if 50% of your battery has been used, the total of percentage used by device elements will also show as 50%.* However, now that the total % of elements might not match the total % of battery used, it is much harder to hide how inaccurate battery stats actually are.
So to elaborate on that further, lets say that your Nexus 5 battery is 4720 mV in capacity.* The actual battery % in status bar is calculated by reading the actual current battery reading from the battery itself and working out the %, so in the example above, 14% battery has been used (639.64 is 14% of 4720 - or more accurately 13.55%)
So...*
Code:
*** screen.on = 3.6%
*** bluetooth.active = 3.4%
*** bluetooth.on = 0.05%
*** wifi.on = 0.5%
*** wifi.active = 6%
*** Total = 13.55%
Why are they never accurate?
So battery % in status* bar takes a reading from the actual battery, but battery stats just add up what they recorded multiplied by the Power_profile.xml values.
Looking at the power_profile.xml file, you'll see for example, wifi - there is an "on" value and an "active" value.* There are just 2 states.* However, what if your router is in your living room and you are in the bedroom?* WiFi Active may not be 76.23 at all.* Due to weak signal, it may be 150....* But battery stats is not aware that it may be using 150....* So it calculates using 76.23
This is where it gets a little more complicated.* Lets go back to these calculations, but factor in the new 150 value for bedroom wifi active
batterystats.bin
Code:
*** screen.on = 2 h
*** bluetooth.active = 3 h
*** bluetooth.on = 7 h
*** wifi.on = 6 h
*** wifi.active = 2 h
wifi.active.InBedroom = 2 h
So, if….
Code:
*** screen.on = 165.5
*** bluetooth.active = 154.65
*** bluetooth.on = 5.53
*** wifi.on = 21
*** wifi.active = 152.46
wifi.active.InBedroom = 300
*** Total = 799.14
So that is what ACTUALLY happened.* But Battery Stats doesn't know.. because the power_profile.xml does not really have the InBedroom entry at all.* So battery stats shows that a total 639.64 of battery has been used, however the physical battery reports that 799.14 has been used.* So the battery % in the status bar is 100% - 17%, = 83%....* 17% has been used but our earlier stats (that don't show the fake inbedroom value) show the total used is only 13.55% - there is a discrepancy here...
Well, since lollipop, that discrepancy has to be accounted for to make the battery stats appear more accurate, so the 159.50 difference that is unaccounted for (The Wifi InBedroom), now will appear as "Miscellaneous".* This makes battery stats show that 17% total battery has been used, to match the status bar and not 13.55% as per the total added up from Power_profile.xml...*
THis is not just the case with WiFI, but with everything from Screen brightness, to bluetooth to cell reception.
Why does misc show on some roms and not others
You may remember a while back that people were reporting the WiFi bug to google..* Well, simply - they probably got fed up and hid misc in Stock ROMS.* No stock roms on the Nexus 5 show misc anymore.* They just have calculations that no longer add up in total to the amount of % used of your battery
Some people have accused google of "hiding" the bug.* What we're saying is that there is NO BUG and they hid misc, which is what caused people to think there was a bug in the first place.
The Misc battery report is still in AOSP code, however some roms have also decided to hide it, such as SlimRoms for example.
You can see their changes here:
From Google: https://github.com/SlimRoms/packages_apps_Settings/commit/e6793771cedb47aed72f1c64f870b70357746938
Custom ROM feature: https://github.com/SimpleAOSP-Lolli...mmit/d025994f90722139dfcf236f275e05236ec47491
Here is an example on SlimLP with the option turned on and off
Summary
There is no such thing as a "misc bug" or "WiFi bug".* Android tries to calculate the amount of battery used by each device element, based on a very finite list of values.* Since the values are pre-determined in a file, it is not an accurate refelection of reality.* When these values in reality are higher than the file, it makes the Battery Stats show a lower % than reality being used by the elements (most easily seen in wifi).* To make the elements total match the actual % used from the battery, Misc was created to fill in that discrepancy - However, since people thought it was a bug due to lack of understanding, it has since been hidden.* But it is not a bug.
rootSU said:
Please feel free. However, that's an old revision. Below is what I'll be posting from now on. Feel free to.use either
There is no "Misc bug" or "WiFi Bug" related to misc
Its really simple and basic and is in no way "drain".* All your battery stats are guessed calculations. They're never accurate. They never have been and never will be.
How battery stats work
The Battery stats UI shows the percentage of battery that device elements are responsible for using, which is based on a couple of things.
1./data/system/batterystats.bin
2./system/frameworks/frameworks-res.apk/res/xml/power_profile.xml
These things contribute in the following way:
1.From the moment Android detects that a close-to-full charge has completed, batterystats.bin records how long the device elements are running
3.This xml file is where the information about how much power, each device element “uses”
The battery stats UI looks at batterystats.bin to see how long each element has been running (and in what state) since the last charge, applies the value (in mV) for each element stored in power_profiles.xml and comes up with a calculation of the % of battery each element is using.
It simply knows the total mV used by adding up all the element values and the time in state to work out the percentages.
Here is a really basic example…
power_profile.xml from the SNexus 5
Code:
*** 0
*** 82.75
*** 201.16
*** 51.55z
*** 0.79
*** 3.5
*** 73.24
*** 75.48
*** 0.1
*** 0.1
*** 76.23
*** 185.19
*** 99.2
batterystats.bin
Code:
*** screen.on = 2 h
*** bluetooth.active = 3 h
*** bluetooth.on = 7 h
*** wifi.on = 6 h
*** wifi.active = 4 h
So, if….
Code:
*** screen.on = 165.5
*** bluetooth.active = 154.65
*** bluetooth.on = 5.53
*** wifi.on = 21
*** wifi.active = 292.96
*** Total = 639.64
Then…*
Code:
*** screen.on = 26%
*** bluetooth.active = 24%
*** bluetooth.on = 1%
*** wifi.on = 3%
*** wifi.active = 46%
*** Total = 100%
That was a basic example of how the Battery Stats UI makes it’s calculations.* Notice how the total is 100%? Well in KK and earlier this was the case.* The Battery Stats UI calculated to 100%.* So even if you had only used 50% of your battery, it would show that device elements had used 100% of your 50% used battery.
This meant that as it always had to add up to 100%, it didn't have to be particularly accurate.* It takes the values and calculations it knows about and works the portion of that 100% each known value has taken.* It knows that 639.64 is 100% therefore wifi at 292.96 must be 46%....
Since Lollipop, it has changed and makes it more difficult for battery stats UI to be so blase about its accuracy.* Now it attempts to show you what "actual" percentage of battery has been used.* For example, if 50% of your battery has been used, the total of percentage used by device elements will also show as 50%.* However, now that the total % of elements might not match the total % of battery used, it is much harder to hide how inaccurate battery stats actually are.
So to elaborate on that further, lets say that your Nexus 5 battery is 4720 mV in capacity.* The actual battery % in status bar is calculated by reading the actual current battery reading from the battery itself and working out the %, so in the example above, 14% battery has been used (639.64 is 14% of 4720 - or more accurately 13.55%)
So...*
Code:
*** screen.on = 3.6%
*** bluetooth.active = 3.4%
*** bluetooth.on = 0.05%
*** wifi.on = 0.5%
*** wifi.active = 6%
*** Total = 13.55%
Why are they never accurate?
So battery % in status* bar takes a reading from the actual battery, but battery stats just add up what they recorded multiplied by the Power_profile.xml values.
Looking at the power_profile.xml file, you'll see for example, wifi - there is an "on" value and an "active" value.* There are just 2 states.* However, what if your router is in your living room and you are in the bedroom?* WiFi Active may not be 76.23 at all.* Due to weak signal, it may be 150....* But battery stats is not aware that it may be using 150....* So it calculates using 76.23
This is where it gets a little more complicated.* Lets go back to these calculations, but factor in the new 150 value for bedroom wifi active
batterystats.bin
Code:
*** screen.on = 2 h
*** bluetooth.active = 3 h
*** bluetooth.on = 7 h
*** wifi.on = 6 h
*** wifi.active = 2 h
wifi.active.InBedroom = 2 h
So, if….
Code:
*** screen.on = 165.5
*** bluetooth.active = 154.65
*** bluetooth.on = 5.53
*** wifi.on = 21
*** wifi.active = 152.46
wifi.active.InBedroom = 300
*** Total = 799.14
So that is what ACTUALLY happened.* But Battery Stats doesn't know.. because the power_profile.xml does not really have the InBedroom entry at all.* So battery stats shows that a total 639.64 of battery has been used, however the physical battery reports that 799.14 has been used.* So the battery % in the status bar is 100% - 17%, = 83%....* 17% has been used but our earlier stats (that don't show the fake inbedroom value) show the total used is only 13.55% - there is a discrepancy here...
Well, since lollipop, that discrepancy has to be accounted for to make the battery stats appear more accurate, so the 159.50 difference that is unaccounted for (The Wifi InBedroom), now will appear as "Miscellaneous".* This makes battery stats show that 17% total battery has been used, to match the status bar and not 13.55% as per the total added up from Power_profile.xml...*
THis is not just the case with WiFI, but with everything from Screen brightness, to bluetooth to cell reception.
Why does misc show on some roms and not others
You may remember a while back that people were reporting the WiFi bug to google..* Well, simply - they probably got fed up and hid misc in Stock ROMS.* No stock roms on the Nexus 5 show misc anymore.* They just have calculations that no longer add up in total to the amount of % used of your battery
Some people have accused google of "hiding" the bug.* What we're saying is that there is NO BUG and they hid misc, which is what caused people to think there was a bug in the first place.
The Misc battery report is still in AOSP code, however some roms have also decided to hide it, such as SlimRoms for example.
You can see their changes here:
From Google: https://github.com/SlimRoms/packages_apps_Settings/commit/e6793771cedb47aed72f1c64f870b70357746938
Custom ROM feature: https://github.com/SimpleAOSP-Lolli...mmit/d025994f90722139dfcf236f275e05236ec47491
Here is an example on SlimLP with the option turned on and off
Summary
There is no such thing as a "misc bug" or "WiFi bug".* Android tries to calculate the amount of battery used by each device element, based on a very finite list of values.* Since the values are pre-determined in a file, it is not an accurate refelection of reality.* When these values in reality are higher than the file, it makes the Battery Stats show a lower % than reality being used by the elements (most easily seen in wifi).* To make the elements total match the actual % used from the battery, Misc was created to fill in that discrepancy - However, since people thought it was a bug due to lack of understanding, it has since been hidden.* But it is not a bug.
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Yeah, I just finished reading it. For me, the first one is great for rooted newbes Cuz it's easily understandable with no experience.
Not this second one is great for those of us that are starting to understand just how android works.
I'll be using them both, thanks.
Not sure if this is the right place for a rant but here i go none the less.
If this isn't the place for a rant then please move or delete.
My cant there be a ROM out there that has everything lol
I've been going from ROM to ROM for sometime now.
I find one that has all the features but has crap battery life. Which makes no sense to me as they are all from aosp or source. How can some ROMs have the misc battery issues but others don't. This is extremely frustrating.
Then I will find a ROM that has amazing battery life but has nothing for features or is all blacked out.
I know Devs make ROMs on their free time and all and don't make money. But I'm one of the few who when they find a ROM, donate. I do it for apps. Kernels. ROMs.
All I want essentially is rastapop ROM as it had the best battery life I had ever seen. It has most of the features I want except one. Led notifications. I want it built in. Not a separate app like liteflow. I find liteflow barely works. Without having a stupid constant notification.
Anyways. Why Oh why can I not find a ROM that has everything. Ugh...
/rant
1. There is no place for rants
2. There is no "Misc bug" or "WiFi Bug" related to misc
Its really simple and basic and is in no way "drain".* All your battery stats are guessed calculations. They're never accurate. They never have been and never will be.
Basic version
Here's how battery stats work.*
In android, there is a file. It lists "power consumption" for certain things.*
For example (and these numbers are made up for simplicity)
WiFi disconnected = 4mA
WiFi connected = 10mA
So if your phone has been connected to WiFi for 10 hours, it calculates that 10 hours @ 10mA = x% of battery used.*
However, what if you're in your bedroom for 10 hours? The router is in your living room. Actually your WiFi is using 20mA because of the weal signal. Well, this magic file cannot account for that. There is no "WiFi connected but user is in bedroom = 20mA" entry in the file.*
Battery stats actually have no link to actual battery usage. Its just a guess. Battery stats knows how much battery has been used and using its magic file, makes an educated guess at how much % battery has been used by each thing.*
So your battery has depleted by 50%. 25% is WiFi connected at 10mA. But your WiFi was actually using 20mA because of distance. Battery stats cannot know this. So you actually have 25% missing in battery stats. That's what miscellaneous was created for. To show that there was a difference between battery stats guess and actual battery use from the battery.*
Its the same for screen brightness, cell signal, CPU usage etc. The file knows very little. Battery stats is very inaccurate
Google actually removed miscellaneous from stock ROMs due to people who don't understand, calling it a WiFi bug. However it still exists in aosp.*
Advanced version
How battery stats work
The Battery stats UI shows the percentage of battery that device elements are responsible for using, which is based on a couple of things.
1./data/system/batterystats.bin
2./system/frameworks/frameworks-res.apk/res/xml/power_profile.xml
These things contribute in the following way:
1.From the moment Android detects that a close-to-full charge has completed, batterystats.bin records how long the device elements are running
3.This xml file is where the information about how much power, each device element “uses”
The battery stats UI looks at batterystats.bin to see how long each element has been running (and in what state) since the last charge, applies the value (in mV) for each element stored in power_profiles.xml and comes up with a calculation of the % of battery each element is using.
It simply knows the total mV used by adding up all the element values and the time in state to work out the percentages.
Here is a really basic example…
power_profile.xml from the SNexus 5
Code:
*0 82.75 201.16 51.55 0.79 3.5 73.24 75.48 0.1 0.1 76.23 185.19 99.2
batterystats.bin
Code:
*** screen.on = 2 h
*** bluetooth.active = 3 h
*** bluetooth.on = 7 h
*** wifi.on = 6 h
*** wifi.active = 4 h
So, if….
Code:
*** screen.on = 165.5
*** bluetooth.active = 154.65
*** bluetooth.on = 5.53
*** wifi.on = 21
*** wifi.active = 292.96
*** Total = 639.64
Then…*
Code:
*** screen.on = 26%
*** bluetooth.active = 24%
*** bluetooth.on = 1%
*** wifi.on = 3%
*** wifi.active = 46%
*** Total = 100%
That was a basic example of how the Battery Stats UI makes it’s calculations.* Notice how the total is 100%? Well in KK and earlier this was the case.* The Battery Stats UI calculated to 100%.* So even if you had only used 50% of your battery, it would show that device elements had used 100% of your 50% used battery.
This meant that as it always had to add up to 100%, it didn't have to be particularly accurate.* It takes the values and calculations it knows about and works the portion of that 100% each known value has taken.* It knows that 639.64 is 100% therefore wifi at 292.96 must be 46%....
Since Lollipop, it has changed and makes it more difficult for battery stats UI to be so blase about its accuracy.* Now it attempts to show you what "actual" percentage of battery has been used.* For example, if 50% of your battery has been used, the total of percentage used by device elements will also show as 50%.* However, now that the total % of elements might not match the total % of battery used, it is much harder to hide how inaccurate battery stats actually are.
So to elaborate on that further, lets say that your Nexus 5 battery is 4720 mV in capacity.* The actual battery % in status bar is calculated by reading the actual current battery reading from the battery itself and working out the %, so in the example above, 14% battery has been used (639.64 is 14% of 4720 - or more accurately 13.55%)
So...*
Code:
*** screen.on = 3.6%
*** bluetooth.active = 3.4%
*** bluetooth.on = 0.05%
*** wifi.on = 0.5%
*** wifi.active = 6%
*** Total = 13.55%
Why are they never accurate?
So battery % in status* bar takes a reading from the actual battery, but battery stats just add up what they recorded multiplied by the Power_profile.xml values.
Looking at the power_profile.xml file, you'll see for example, wifi - there is an "on" value and an "active" value.* There are just 2 states.* However, what if your router is in your living room and you are in the bedroom?* WiFi Active may not be 76.23 at all.* Due to weak signal, it may be 150....* But battery stats is not aware that it may be using 150....* So it calculates using 76.23
This is where it gets a little more complicated.* Lets go back to these calculations, but factor in the new 150 value for bedroom wifi active
batterystats.bin
Code:
*** screen.on = 2 h
*** bluetooth.active = 3 h
*** bluetooth.on = 7 h
*** wifi.on = 6 h
*** wifi.active = 2 h
wifi.active.InBedroom = 2 h
So, if….
Code:
*** screen.on = 165.5
*** bluetooth.active = 154.65
*** bluetooth.on = 5.53
*** wifi.on = 21
*** wifi.active = 152.46
wifi.active.InBedroom = 300
*** Total = 799.14
So that is what ACTUALLY happened.* But Battery Stats doesn't know.. because the power_profile.xml does not really have the InBedroom entry at all.* So battery stats shows that a total 639.64 of battery has been used, however the physical battery reports that 799.14 has been used.* So the battery % in the status bar is 100% - 17%, = 83%....* 17% has been used but our earlier stats (that don't show the fake inbedroom value) show the total used is only 13.55% - there is a discrepancy here...
Well, since lollipop, that discrepancy has to be accounted for to make the battery stats appear more accurate, so the 159.50 difference that is unaccounted for (The Wifi InBedroom), now will appear as "Miscellaneous".* This makes battery stats show that 17% total battery has been used, to match the status bar and not 13.55% as per the total added up from Power_profile.xml...*
THis is not just the case with WiFI, but with everything from Screen brightness, to bluetooth to cell reception.
Why does misc show on some roms and not others
You may remember a while back that people were reporting the WiFi bug to google..* Well, simply - they probably got fed up and hid misc in Stock ROMS.* No stock roms on the Nexus 5 show misc anymore.* They just have calculations that no longer add up in total to the amount of % used of your battery
Some people have accused google of "hiding" the bug.* What we're saying is that there is NO BUG and they hid misc, which is what caused people to think there was a bug in the first place.
The Misc battery report is still in AOSP code, however some roms have also decided to hide it, such as SlimRoms for example.
You can see their changes here:
From Google: https://github.com/SlimRoms/packages_apps_Settings/commit/e6793771cedb47aed72f1c64f870b70357746938
Custom ROM feature: https://github.com/SimpleAOSP-Lolli...mmit/d025994f90722139dfcf236f275e05236ec47491
Here is an example on SlimLP with the option turned on and off
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Summary
There is no such thing as a "misc bug" or "WiFi bug".* Android tries to calculate the amount of battery used by each device element, based on a very finite list of values.* Since the values are pre-determined in a file, it is not an accurate refelection of reality.* When these values in reality are higher than the file, it makes the Battery Stats show a lower % than reality being used by the elements (most easily seen in wifi).* To make the elements total match the actual % used from the battery, Misc was created to fill in that discrepancy - However, since people thought it was a bug due to lack of understanding, it has since been hidden.* But it is not a bug.
Makes sense. Thank you. I read some thing about the misc drain. But never truly understood it. That actually helped and made me understand it.
But why does it seem like my battery is worse when I am on ROMs with the misc drain. Then on ROMs that don't list it.
Example. My drain is worse when on cm12 but is better on rastapop.
Anyways. I guess someone can delete this thread before it becomes a bashing heaven lol or a flame war in here.
Thank you again for the clarification on that misc battery thing. Appreciated very much.
No problem. As for why some see to drain quicker, I can only guess its to do with the out-of-the-box kernel settings, or its pyschologogical
rootSU said:
No problem. As for why some see to drain quicker, I can only guess its to do with the out-of-the-box kernel settings, or its pyschologogical
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Can't be psychological...
Here's a good comparison.
My work is 30 mins away driving. Every day is the same. Same route. Same time. Etc
Some ROMs by the time I get to work I'm at 95%
Some ROMs I'll be at 99% .
That's usually my comparison
I would have all the same stuff running. I normally don't touch my phone other then turning off wifi and turning on bt.
My phone auto reboots every morning at 5am.
Anyways lol enough of all that.
Thank you again for the details
c_86 said:
Can't be psychological...
Here's a good comparison.
My work is 30 mins away driving. Every day is the same. Same route. Same time. Etc
Some ROMs by the time I get to work I'm at 95%
Some ROMs I'll be at 99% .
That's usually my comparison
I would have all the same stuff running. I normally don't touch my phone other then turning off wifi and turning on bt.
My phone auto reboots every morning at 5am.
Anyways lol enough of all that.
Thank you again for the details
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Hmm. I think it may be because it guesses what usage will be then realizes the battery is only at x when it calculates y.
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Learn to compile yourself. Issues solved.
Tweaked. Believe me. I have tried. For some reason it's just above my head and I get confused. I'm normally decent at coding but for some reason I cannot wrap my head around compiling for Android.
Just upgraded my Nexus 5 to CM12, now i'm getting huge battery drain by a process called "Miscellaneous" and it's becoming very annoying... What is this process?? What information do we have here on XDA??? Anyone else is having this issue????
Enri1196 said:
Just upgraded my Nexus 5 to CM12, now i'm getting huge battery drain by a process called "Miscellaneous" and it's becoming very annoying... What is this process?? What information do we have here on XDA??? Anyone else is having this issue????
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Working as intended. There has been much discussion on this but someone correct me if I'm wrong it's Lollipop estimating what your battery usage is going to be for X then it ends up being Y so X+/-Y = Miscellaneous..
There is no "Misc bug" or "WiFi Bug" related to misc
Its really simple and basic and is in no way "drain".* All your battery stats are guessed calculations. They're never accurate. They never have been and never will be.
Basic version
Here's how battery stats work.*
In android, there is a file. It lists "power consumption" for certain things.*
For example (and these numbers are made up for simplicity)
WiFi disconnected = 4mA
WiFi connected = 10mA
So if your phone has been connected to WiFi for 10 hours, it calculates that 10 hours @ 10mA = x% of battery used.*
However, what if you're in your bedroom for 10 hours? The router is in your living room. Actually your WiFi is using 20mA because of the weal signal. Well, this magic file cannot account for that. There is no "WiFi connected but user is in bedroom = 20mA" entry in the file.*
Battery stats actually have no link to actual battery usage. Its just a guess. Battery stats knows how much battery has been used and using its magic file, makes an educated guess at how much % battery has been used by each thing.*
So your battery has depleted by 50%. 25% is WiFi connected at 10mA. But your WiFi was actually using 20mA because of distance. Battery stats cannot know this. So you actually have 25% missing in battery stats. That's what miscellaneous was created for. To show that there was a difference between battery stats guess and actual battery use from the battery.*
Its the same for screen brightness, cell signal, CPU usage etc. The file knows very little. Battery stats is very inaccurate
Google actually removed miscellaneous from stock ROMs due to people who don't understand, calling it a WiFi bug. However it still exists in aosp.*
Advanced version
How battery stats work
The Battery stats UI shows the percentage of battery that device elements are responsible for using, which is based on a couple of things.
1./data/system/batterystats.bin
2./system/frameworks/frameworks-res.apk/res/xml/power_profile.xml
These things contribute in the following way:
1.From the moment Android detects that a close-to-full charge has completed, batterystats.bin records how long the device elements are running
3.This xml file is where the information about how much power, each device element “uses”
The battery stats UI looks at batterystats.bin to see how long each element has been running (and in what state) since the last charge, applies the value (in mV) for each element stored in power_profiles.xml and comes up with a calculation of the % of battery each element is using.
It simply knows the total mV used by adding up all the element values and the time in state to work out the percentages.
Here is a really basic example…
power_profile.xml from the SNexus 5
Code:
*<item name="none">0</item> <item name="screen.on">82.75</item> <item name="screen.full">201.16</item> <item name="bluetooth.active">51.55</item> <item name="bluetooth.on">0.79</item> <item name="wifi.on">3.5</item> <item name="wifi.active">73.24</item> <item name="wifi.scan">75.48</item> <item name="dsp.audio">0.1</item> <item name="dsp.video">0.1</item> <item name="gps.on">76.23</item> <item name="radio.active">185.19</item> <item name="radio.scanning">99.2</item>
batterystats.bin
Code:
*** screen.on = 2 h
*** bluetooth.active = 3 h
*** bluetooth.on = 7 h
*** wifi.on = 6 h
*** wifi.active = 4 h
So, if….
Code:
*** screen.on = 165.5
*** bluetooth.active = 154.65
*** bluetooth.on = 5.53
*** wifi.on = 21
*** wifi.active = 292.96
*** Total = 639.64
Then…*
Code:
*** screen.on = 26%
*** bluetooth.active = 24%
*** bluetooth.on = 1%
*** wifi.on = 3%
*** wifi.active = 46%
*** Total = 100%
That was a basic example of how the Battery Stats UI makes it’s calculations.* Notice how the total is 100%? Well in KK and earlier this was the case.* The Battery Stats UI calculated to 100%.* So even if you had only used 50% of your battery, it would show that device elements had used 100% of your 50% used battery.
This meant that as it always had to add up to 100%, it didn't have to be particularly accurate.* It takes the values and calculations it knows about and works the portion of that 100% each known value has taken.* It knows that 639.64 is 100% therefore wifi at 292.96 must be 46%....
Since Lollipop, it has changed and makes it more difficult for battery stats UI to be so blase about its accuracy.* Now it attempts to show you what "actual" percentage of battery has been used.* For example, if 50% of your battery has been used, the total of percentage used by device elements will also show as 50%.* However, now that the total % of elements might not match the total % of battery used, it is much harder to hide how inaccurate battery stats actually are.
So to elaborate on that further, lets say that your Nexus 5 battery is 4720 mV in capacity.* The actual battery % in status bar is calculated by reading the actual current battery reading from the battery itself and working out the %, so in the example above, 14% battery has been used (639.64 is 14% of 4720 - or more accurately 13.55%)
So...*
Code:
*** screen.on = 3.6%
*** bluetooth.active = 3.4%
*** bluetooth.on = 0.05%
*** wifi.on = 0.5%
*** wifi.active = 6%
*** Total = 13.55%
Why are they never accurate?
So battery % in status* bar takes a reading from the actual battery, but battery stats just add up what they recorded multiplied by the Power_profile.xml values.
Looking at the power_profile.xml file, you'll see for example, wifi - there is an "on" value and an "active" value.* There are just 2 states.* However, what if your router is in your living room and you are in the bedroom?* WiFi Active may not be 76.23 at all.* Due to weak signal, it may be 150....* But battery stats is not aware that it may be using 150....* So it calculates using 76.23
This is where it gets a little more complicated.* Lets go back to these calculations, but factor in the new 150 value for bedroom wifi active
batterystats.bin
Code:
*** screen.on = 2 h
*** bluetooth.active = 3 h
*** bluetooth.on = 7 h
*** wifi.on = 6 h
*** wifi.active = 2 h
wifi.active.InBedroom = 2 h
So, if….
Code:
*** screen.on = 165.5
*** bluetooth.active = 154.65
*** bluetooth.on = 5.53
*** wifi.on = 21
*** wifi.active = 152.46
wifi.active.InBedroom = 300
*** Total = 799.14
So that is what ACTUALLY happened.* But Battery Stats doesn't know.. because the power_profile.xml does not really have the InBedroom entry at all.* So battery stats shows that a total 639.64 of battery has been used, however the physical battery reports that 799.14 has been used.* So the battery % in the status bar is 100% - 17%, = 83%....* 17% has been used but our earlier stats (that don't show the fake inbedroom value) show the total used is only 13.55% - there is a discrepancy here...
Well, since lollipop, that discrepancy has to be accounted for to make the battery stats appear more accurate, so the 159.50 difference that is unaccounted for (The Wifi InBedroom), now will appear as "Miscellaneous".* This makes battery stats show that 17% total battery has been used, to match the status bar and not 13.55% as per the total added up from Power_profile.xml...*
THis is not just the case with WiFI, but with everything from Screen brightness, to bluetooth to cell reception.
Why does misc show on some roms and not others
You may remember a while back that people were reporting the WiFi bug to google..* Well, simply - they probably got fed up and hid misc in Stock ROMS.* No stock roms on the Nexus 5 show misc anymore.* They just have calculations that no longer add up in total to the amount of % used of your battery
Some people have accused google of "hiding" the bug.* What we're saying is that there is NO BUG and they hid misc, which is what caused people to think there was a bug in the first place.
The Misc battery report is still in AOSP code, however some roms have also decided to hide it, such as SlimRoms for example.
You can see their changes here:
From Google: https://github.com/SlimRoms/packages_apps_Settings/commit/e6793771cedb47aed72f1c64f870b70357746938
Custom ROM feature: https://github.com/SimpleAOSP-Lolli...mmit/d025994f90722139dfcf236f275e05236ec47491
Here is an example on SlimLP with the option turned on and off
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Summary
There is no such thing as a "misc bug" or "WiFi bug".* Android tries to calculate the amount of battery used by each device element, based on a very finite list of values.* Since the values are pre-determined in a file, it is not an accurate refelection of reality.* When these values in reality are higher than the file, it makes the Battery Stats show a lower % than reality being used by the elements (most easily seen in wifi).* To make the elements total match the actual % used from the battery, Misc was created to fill in that discrepancy - However, since people thought it was a bug due to lack of understanding, it has since been hidden.* But it is not a bug.
But what do you do to get decent battery life?? maybe my battery is broken??? i don't know what to think
Enri1196 said:
But what do you do to get decent battery life?? maybe my battery is broken??? i don't know what to think
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the miscelanius aint the problem, something else is. if you use an app or something to change your build prop and edit the ro.build.type to user (ro.build.type=user) the miscelanius will go away. use some app to indentify if you dont have wakelocks or something like that
although long time since anybody have been here, might as well ask right...
I ahve huge problem with my battery life --- I loose about 60% over night with no use.
I bought new battery and tried few different roms and kernels including stock with no luck of improvement.
I have tried to turn the wifi off and battery saver on ... Tried with no apps installed or in safe mode .... still same battery drain ...
Getting kinda desperate here.
Nexus 5 Hammerhead, Euclidean OS, ElemantalX kernel.
https://plus.google.com/photos/1097...738&ssid=41667ddc-02c5-4271-a7a3-e9b0fe1dda58
https://plus.google.com/photos/1097...738&ssid=41667ddc-02c5-4271-a7a3-e9b0fe1dda58
erik.paliza said:
although long time since anybody have been here, might as well ask right...
I ahve huge problem with my battery life --- I loose about 60% over night with no use.
I bought new battery and tried few different roms and kernels including stock with no luck of improvement.
I have tried to turn the wifi off and battery saver on ... Tried with no apps installed or in safe mode .... still same battery drain ...
Getting kinda desperate here.
Nexus 5 Hammerhead, Euclidean OS, ElemantalX kernel.
https://plus.google.com/photos/1097...738&ssid=41667ddc-02c5-4271-a7a3-e9b0fe1dda58
https://plus.google.com/photos/1097...738&ssid=41667ddc-02c5-4271-a7a3-e9b0fe1dda58
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Just try this and let us know
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
AlbertoDR said:
Just try this and let us know
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
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I have been led to belive I can not use xposed because I am on android 7.1., at least I have not found proper zip file to flash. So no use for me. But now i have found out it does not have to do anything with my apps.
In safe mode the battery drain is fine ... over night about 5%, wich is fine.
Lastly, i have flashed the latest euclidean os from 10.1.2017 or so ... Kept the phone as it was, no further apps ... still huge battery drain. Instaled betterbatterystats and now I know it is due to wakelocks.
i have been monitoring just a while now but for now most wakes are:
AudioMix
EntriesRefresh_wakelock
ULR-BarometerReading_wakelock
NIpCollectorWakelock
And BBS_Wakelock
I will google those later ... But mi biggest issue is the fact that the phone worked fine, but now it is terrible, with no new apps or anything ... Even without anything installed from my part the batery drain is enormous. I am constantly chargign the phone.
Thanks for your reply, though. I will when i am able to download xposed.
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Enri1196 said:
But what do you do to get decent battery life?? maybe my battery is broken??? i don't know what to think
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Did you ever figure it out?
Same issue on Nexus 5 with AOSP 7.1.1 from Santhosh M.
110% battery consumed by Miscellaneous for last day