Curious question. So I just recently purchased a microsd card, and I'm about to perform a hard reset so it'll work.. My phone is student developer unlocked and all, so I'm following the legit Mango update currently.
Before the first beta update, I backed up and saved a copy of the back up on my hard drive, whereas it's 6GB. (I reinstalled my computer shortly after, if this matters)
Now, after updating to the final 7720 last night, I checked the backup folder place in Users AppData etcetc., and it's only 774MB. What just happened..?
Edit: New problem now; posted in the fourth post but in case you didn't feel like scrolling down there:
Great. Error code 80180090 after trying to restore. Did a quick Google check and other people have been having the same problem after installing a microsd; guessing that it the restores must match the same amount of space previously?
Is there a way around this?
Previous backups are overwritten. Also the way the phones are backed up now has changed. Before it would back up all your media like music but now it doesn't so the backups are much quicker and smaller.
Ren13B said:
Previous backups are overwritten. Also the way the phones are backed up now has changed. Before it would back up all your media like music but now it doesn't so the backups are much quicker and smaller.
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that is correct
In addition, if you need to you can copy your backed up restore point (good move!) to where the most recent one is located (AppData etcetc, make a backup of that before as well). Zune should now see the backup you created (easily seen in the date of the restore point within Zune). If you restore it will restore your 6Gb of data.
Great. Error code 80180090 after trying to restore. Did a quick Google check and other people have been having the same problem after installing a microsd; guessing that it the restores must match the same amount of space previously?
Is there a way around this?
Restore points can only be used with the exact same hardware as they were created from. A microSD card or a different phone (even if it's the same model) won't work. Nobody has found a way around this yet.
Hi xda,
Though my thread title may be a little vague and might supposedly be better asked on google or android per se, just patiently read along as I try to explain my dilemma in more detail.
For ICS users, we all know the convenience of the "backup & restore" feature. Everything from wifi passwords, contacts, and installed apps will be magically restored when you install a new firmware on your phone with a full data wipe. And for us flash junkies, that indeed is really convenient.
But even though I have come to love such feature, I've noticed a few quirks as I was using it over time. The backup manifest or shall I say, the list of backed up data gets cluttered as you continue to backup data over time. This leading to a point where my backup data is now so messed up, whenever it auto restores once again, I see previously uninstalled apps back again and duplicate contact entries. So messed up, that I've decided to stop using this much loved feature and just manually backup my contacts, and re-install apps.
So, I am looking for some solution that I might be somehow able to manually edit that current backed up list (over at google or wherever it's stored), and update which will be restored if ever I flash my phone again. Or wipe that list clean and overwrite it with my current phone state.
Sorry for the long post but I've done my googling and forum searching beforehand only to no avail.
You can forgo that feature entirely and use titanium backup instead, for backing up your personal app data...
Titanium acts a little twitchy when restoring system apps and data across roms with different bases...
Your best bet would be to backup your downloaded apps with titanium, backup contacts and msgs (and call logs) from other market apps (I use go backup)...
For bluetooth and wifi access points, I haven't found anything that is truly cross compatible among roms...so better of you just write it down somewhere and refer that later...
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I have set a schedule for "redo backups for modified data" but it seems like it will ALWAYS redo backups for all the apps which sort of defeats the purpose. This is supposed to redo backup for those apps where some settings or progress have been changed right? Am I experiencing a bug or what?
I mean I could do a complete backup all over again and immediately do a redo and yet it will do it for every app.
I am running CM10.1 on nexus S and have the latest titanium version.
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I have the same problem. Really strange. It backup all on that option but after that on my cloud sync it only sync the changed data.
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I have the same problem. Really strange. It backup all on that option but after that on my cloud sync it only sync the changed data.
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Are you sure about the cloud sync part? Because i see its always over 100mb for me when i hadn't even touched more than half the apps installed. Obviously it won't upload the apks again with modified data but i believe it uploads save state data for all the apps. And the cloud sync is actually my problem because the actual backup takes no time at all. I want to keep a daily schedule but i feel that's stressing my phone far too much as i have modest wifi speed here and it sure takes its time to upload 100mb data. Not to mention the titanium upload seems to take even longer than it should.
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Ok you could be right. Don't really know how it works.... But maybe synchronisation with another app like folder sync would be better. Need to try.
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Ok you could be right. Don't really know how it works.... But maybe synchronisation with another app like folder sync would be better. Need to try.
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Yes there is a great app for this. I will give it a try as well.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ttxapps.dropsync&hl=en
I played a bit with TitaniumBackup and sync.
I figured out that if you use "redo backups for modified data" and after that another time. It only checks and backup nothing. That means it should be work as it called. :good:
And with syncing it seems to work fine with other apps instead of TitaniumBackup. Like FolderSync or TitaniumMediaSync. It only backup changed Data. I prefer TitaniumMediaSync, it's easy to use. But you can only sync with Dropbox or some ftp. No other Cloud
I was trying to figure this out too...but when I ran it a few times, it seemed to complete very quickly. If you check the date/time on the backups, you'll see that it's just checking, in most cases, and not actually backing up.
I also expected that the number to the right of the option in the list of batch actions was a dynamic and live number that constantly knew how many apps had modified data...so I was surprised that immediately after a full backup, it still said 100% of the number of items that the full backup had. It's actually just the total number that will be checked for modified data and then backed up if deemed necessary.
Generalizations aside, you would need to more closely compare the percent of data that was written during the modified data backup as compared to the total data of all Titanium Backups to get a perfectly clear picture.
I usually use Google backup and Samsung backup and when switching to a new phone I backup and restore / smartswitch which works ok. A few days ago my phone did a hard reset I think because the incorrect pin was entered accidentally multiple times whilst the phone was in my bag (hard reset setting in this situation compulsory due to my security settings for my work email). Although most important things could be restored, things like my app settings, Email settings, Gboard, Nova etc all had old backups saved and so I have to spend a lot of time setting up each one again.
Is there a better way to have EVERYTHING backed up automatically so I can restore the phone to the exact way I left it if I lose my phone or have to hard reset without needing to spend so much time next time? I remember iPhone iOS was better years ago. Are there any other softwares available that do full back ups scheduled every week or daily?
Thanks
Not really unless you're rooted. A cloned copy be nice...
2 back to back boot loops and factory resets made me streamline my reloading process and the way I organize critical data and backups.
I use the SD card as a data drive then back it up redundantly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Only the apps, DCIM and download folder go on internal memory. The DCIM folder is backup to a folder on the data manually that doesn't have the name DCIM in it's folders names.
I use apps like Digi clock, Poweramp and ColorNote (for bookmarks) that allow backup import/export and store those on the data drive. I use ApkExport to make installable copies of all my apps for fast reloads without Playstore. I store notes for the theme and icon pack as well for quick lookout on the Galaxy store. I can do a full reload from the SD card. Takes about 4 hours total to reload.
Never rely on SmartSwitch to store critical files as it can fail miserably. It may cause other problems when switching devices and force another factory reset. I use it to save the homepage settings on the same device. It can also potentially import the initial cause for the reload.
Never encrypt data drives as you are the most likely one to be locked out. I never use screen lock for the same reason, double tap on/off.
If managed right stock Android's can be very stable. Current load on this N10+ will be 2 yo in June. Still fast and stable with minimal maintenance. This is one reason I rarely upgrade the firmware once I have a stable, optimized load. Android 9 and above are reasonably secure unless you do something stupid.
Thanks for the advice Blackhawk. It sounds a bit complicated for me! I was hoping for a paid simple option that would do most things I need.
Kash said:
Thanks for the advice Blackhawk. It sounds a bit complicated for me! I was hoping for a paid simple option that would do most things I need.
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It takes some thought. After doing 2 back to back reloads the mistakes I made in backup organization where painfully clear to me. Reloads can be very frustrating and even damaging if you're not completely prepared. There's a lot that can go wrong that will at the best cost you time... better to send that time in backup preparation. Remember to make a copy of your current contacts.
Passwords need to be preserved one way or another, redundantly and available enough to access. Delete the Google and Samsung accounts before factory reset and do the hard reset from settings rather than the boot menu. Least FRP raises its ugly head... a lock out would be a pain.
The problem with all the easy ways like SmartSwitch is they can potentially cause the loss of some or all of your critical data. It shouldn't be your primary backup! A complete and organized data drive makes everything easier, it allows you to make best use of that resource. Haphazard organization is just beating yourself repeatedly... so preparing for a reload serves more than one purpose.
The Android OS can be extremely stable to the point where you may think it could never fail.
A crash is just one drop, one near lightning strike, rootkit, or bootloop away. It will eventually happen.
One other consideration with data drives is vetting. Keep the download folder on the internal memory not the data drive. Vet files before moving to the data drive. Malware that is downloaded must be detected before it is copy to the data drive and backups! Suspicious files can be scanned with online Virustotal, scanning with the free version of Malwarebytes may occasionally pick off a trojan preloader... that one missed. Any unknown files should be deleted without opening.
Open files, images before moving them to the data drive. Watch for changes in the folder or system and that what you opened is what it's suppose to be. It's best to time stagger backup hdds rather than do all at once, just in case something makes it in. That's one reason you isolate the hdds from each other and the PC.
My wife and I are awaiting our pixel 7 pro phones to arrive. I'd like to start the backup process and be prepared for as much of a seamless switch as possible.
She has a Galaxy note 8 and I have a rooted pixel 2xl. We will be backing up via the stock Google backup process. This gets 80%+ of what we need, but if there's a good way to backup and restore pics, messages, app data not covered under a Google backup, and more stuff I'm not thinking of I'd love to hear about it.
I've read that transferring data from the old phone to the new over the adapter and cord can make the new phone inexplicably have bad battery drain issues for a long time after the data transfer. Because of this it's recommended that over air backups be completed.
For my wife's stock Galaxy note 8 is a swift backup and restore via swfitbackup on her new p7p recommended? What are my options given I'm on a rooted phone? Is there any more thorough backup and restore I can do through swift backup, titanium backup, or other methods? The only times I've ever restored from Titanium backup it was incomplete and I was dissatisfied. I'm note sure what I did wrong.
My thread in general, but you could start with Post #7 - My personal advice for how to get your device back up and running as you had it before a factory reset
Have fun with your new phones when you get them!
Always start mostly fresh. When you restore the Google backup, edit the default options and remove settings and apps from the restore process and you should be fine but if you restore your full backup, you're probably going to have issues, especially for your wife that's not coming from a Pixel.
Its not just the cord but *any* backup that can restore things that muck up the phone, restoring settings in particular, but app data can be a problem too.
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Always start mostly fresh. When you restore the Google backup, edit the default options and remove settings and apps from the restore process and you should be fine but if you restore your full backup, you're probably going to have issues, especially for your wife that's not coming from a Pixel.
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Remove settings and apps? Did you mean app data? If I don't restore the apps there's really no point in a restore is there?
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Always start mostly fresh. When you restore the Google backup, edit the default options and remove settings and apps from the restore process and you should be fine but if you restore your full backup, you're probably going to have issues, especially for your wife that's not coming from a Pixel.
Its not just the cord but *any* backup that can restore things that muck up the phone, restoring settings in particular, but app data can be a problem too.
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I just want to point out that my wife and I have been restoring app data from Google's backup for 6+ years on (5? 6?) devices for each of us and have never had any problems. In two cases (only one for my wife), going to a Samsung device, and also once in each of our cases, going from a Samsung to Pixel.
Restore by cord I agree is a mistake. But just because Google's cloud restore works so much better and more complete.
For the record, I used Swift Backup (and SMS Backup) yesterday to move my apps from my 4 XL to my 7 Pro (both rooted). It worked fine. Some apps asked me to sign in again but settings remained intact for the most part.
I'll see how things are in the coming days but so far, so good.
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For the record, I used Swift Backup (and SMS Backup) yesterday to move my apps from my 4 XL to my 7 Pro (both rooted). It worked fine. Some apps asked me to sign in again but settings remained intact for the most part.
I'll see how things are in the coming days but so far, so good.
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Sms backup is part of the Google backup isn't it?
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Sms backup is part of the Google backup isn't it?
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Nah, I always use SMSBackupandRestore. This app has never let me down since the beginning of Android!
SMS Backup & Restore - Apps on Google Play
A simple app that backs up and restores SMS & MMS messages and call logs.
play.google.com
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Sms backup is part of the Google backup isn't it?
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Yes, it is. I confirm I have texts in my Google Messages app going back to December, which I recall was when I factory reset my P6P by mistake by accidentally leaving the "-w" in the flash-all.bat, and I have never been too concerned with restoring SMS since I mainly use Google Voice (which keeps things forever no matter what), so whether I allow the cloud restore of SMS when setting up a device fresh is 50/50 for me.
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SMS Backup and Restore is a 3rd party app designed to specifically backup and restore all your SMS text messages because in years past the default Google backup did not do this. I have used it many times myself. However, even though I recommend a fresh install to mitigate any potential bugs, you have stated that you have done several restores to new phones without incident. I also did a Google restore on my 7 Pro without incident AND all my texts came back automatically so it appears as if Google backup is now working properly. So go ahead and let the backup return. You "should" be OK. YMMV
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Remove settings and apps? Did you mean app data? If I don't restore the apps there's really no point in a restore is there?
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The restore would still copy over texts and call logs and such but you are correct, it would be largely a clean install. This has *always* been the recommendation when moving to a new phone. Clean slate = least amount of issues. Added bonus, you get rid of apps you don't even use anymore and get a more streamlined setup.
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I just want to point out that my wife and I have been restoring app data from Google's backup for 6+ years on (5? 6?) devices for each of us and have never had any problems. In two cases (only one for my wife), going to a Samsung device, and also once in each of our cases, going from a Samsung to Pixel.
Restore by cord I agree is a mistake. But just because Google's cloud restore works so much better and more complete.
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Cord or cloud shouldn't really matter as it should be the same settings and app data, just a faster restore with the cord and the copying of some files from storage. Not everyone has problems either but if you don't want to have to potentially set everything back up a second time, it's always good to start with a clean slate if you have the patience to do so.
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My wife and I are awaiting our pixel 7 pro phones to arrive. I'd like to start the backup process and be prepared for as much of a seamless switch as possible.
She has a Galaxy note 8 and I have a rooted pixel 2xl. We will be backing up via the stock Google backup process. This gets 80%+ of what we need, but if there's a good way to backup and restore pics, messages, app data not covered under a Google backup, and more stuff I'm not thinking of I'd love to hear about it.
I've read that transferring data from the old phone to the new over the adapter and cord can make the new phone inexplicably have bad battery drain issues for a long time after the data transfer. Because of this it's recommended that over air backups be completed.
For my wife's stock Galaxy note 8 is a swift backup and restore via swfitbackup on her new p7p recommended? What are my options given I'm on a rooted phone? Is there any more thorough backup and restore I can do through swift backup, titanium backup, or other methods? The only times I've ever restored from Titanium backup it was incomplete and I was dissatisfied. I'm note sure what I did wrong.
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This post/topic makes me feel nostalgic....
It makes me sore for the days we could do nandroid TWRP backups (back in the days from the Pixel 2 XL, like the OP). I found, if tweaked right, those backups saved absolutely everything -- from wallpapers, icon placements, widgets, apps & settings, anything and everything! It was like a literal snapshot of the phone at the time of backup. I messed up my phone a bunch of times, and relied on those backups and would restore and would never miss a beat!
I used to swear by SMS Backup & Restore (from Droid 1 to Galaxy S5, I have texts still from 2012), but (please correct me if I'm wrong), it's not able to save MMS's and RCS (particularly & obviously, because it's totally different technology). I think it even states that in the app on its limitations...so that's something that should be considered when using that to back up -- that you may want to be sure that whatever backup method you use, it saves the MMS's (pictures, audio files, stickers, bitmoji's, etc.)....
I've found Swift is/does well enough. I could be wrong, but I don' t think it backups like Titanium though where you can have different versions and backups of the same app -- I haven't looked hard at the settings or backup, but I couldn't find a way to restore an app at different certain stages. I couldn't get the wallpaper (picture/image) to save correctly on Swift as well...But it is great at supported split apks and "extended media" like .obb files (for games I believe).... Using the phone transfer cord and Swift seems to be comparable as it seems both my messages stated to transfer 2GBs worth, while Swift compressed it to 500MB, it seemed to save the 10s of thousands of texts I have been carrying with me for a decade...
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This post/topic makes me feel nostalgic....
It makes me sore for the days we could do nandroid TWRP backups (back in the days from the Pixel 2 XL, like the OP). I found, if tweaked right, those backups saved absolutely everything -- from wallpapers, icon placements, widgets, apps & settings, anything and everything! It was like a literal snapshot of the phone at the time of backup. I messed up my phone a bunch of times, and relied on those backups and would restore and would never miss a beat!
I used to swear by SMS Backup & Restore (from Droid 1 to Galaxy S5, I have texts still from 2012), but (please correct me if I'm wrong), it's not able to save MMS's and RCS (particularly & obviously, because it's totally different technology). I think it even states that in the app on its limitations...so that's something that should be considered when using that to back up -- that you may want to be sure that whatever backup method you use, it saves the MMS's (pictures, audio files, stickers, bitmoji's, etc.)....
I've found Swift is/does well enough. I could be wrong, but I don' t think it backups like Titanium though where you can have different versions and backups of the same app -- I haven't looked hard at the settings or backup, but I couldn't find a way to restore an app at different certain stages. I couldn't get the wallpaper (picture/image) to save correctly on Swift as well...But it is great at supported split apks and "extended media" like .obb files (for games I believe).... Using the phone transfer cord and Swift seems to be comparable as it seems both my messages stated to transfer 2GBs worth, while Swift compressed it to 500MB, it seemed to save the 10s of thousands of texts I have been carrying with me for a decade...
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All those texts have been migrated from your various texting apps to the Google messages app you use now? That'd be awesome to retain all those. I search for OLD stuff quote a bit, but it seems some stuff disappears.
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Nah, I always use SMSBackupandRestore. This app has never let me down since the beginning of Android!
SMS Backup & Restore - Apps on Google Play
A simple app that backs up and restores SMS & MMS messages and call logs.
play.google.com
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I second this. Been using this since the really really old days when it was 2 apps in the OG Android days. It can even auto backup to Google Drive everyday and restore from it just as easy.
If you have access to a computer, you could just copy everything and go through the folders bit by bit, or upload them somewhere(Google Photos, Dropbox, Mega, etc) temporarily and put them on your new device.
Whenever I clean flash my phone's, I restore text messages once in awhile but pretty much always start clean and download apps as I find the need for them rather than bulk downloading them all.
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All those texts have been migrated from your various texting apps to the Google messages app you use now? That'd be awesome to retain all those. I search for OLD stuff quote a bit, but it seems some stuff disappears.
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I used SMS Backup & Restore in its infancy back on my Droid 1 days (2012)...and had been migrating each backup after every upgrade up to the S5. I did have a lot of success with TWRP nandroid backups, but I don't think I successfully used it to migrate to a phone upgrade; also it's not an option to the Pixel 7 anyways. Then when I transferred to the Pixel 2 from the S5, I found the transfer tool (via cord) transferred everything perfectly. I went from that to the Pixel 5 to the Pixel 7 now, and it seemed to transfer everything.
It seems the app now makes sure to backup MMS pictures and audio and other media, which it wasn't stable or fully capable back then (which is why I had stopped backing my texts up using it). But a lot of people are swearing by it and that was my go-to back in the day, so I'm sure it's a great tool for transferring texts.
I always used Verizon Messages and it used to transfer well enough, except for this time -- I doubt you use this app, not many do. Verizon Messages was able to detect all the texts, but it couldn't migrate/detect the MMS messages transferred. Again, I doubt you (or anyone) uses the app, but if you do, know that it is lacking or buggy.
I liked to use it though because it supposedly stores texts for 3 months on their server, they'll accept texts even if the device can't receive signal, and will update/resend it when the device can connect, and I kinda liked their interface and how you can apply colors to conversation bubbles...