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I recently upgraded my ATT Captivate to 2.2. I now have a problem with apps starting up on there own even though I've going into apps management and have killed them. I even have app killer and its not automatically killing the apps. These aren't the att apps, these are apps that I've installed.
How can I prevent apps from starting back up. Its killing my battery life.
Thanks
dirk1965 said:
I recently upgraded my ATT Captivate to 2.2. I now have a problem with apps starting up on there own even though I've going into apps management and have killed them. I even have app killer and its not automatically killing the apps. These aren't the att apps, these are apps that I've installed.
How can I prevent apps from starting back up. Its killing my battery life.
Thanks
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Get os monitor and check how much mem they use. If u see one that is always over 20%, uninstall it.
Also u can stop ur running services.
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What BW said. Don't worry about them in there unless you find one using up too much battery/resources. They won't drain your battery unless it's a bad app.
BWolf56 said:
Get os monitor abd check how much mem they use. If u see one that is always over 20%, uninstall it.
Also u can stop ur running services.
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I have also stopped the services for the apps that are restarting, and they keep coming back like bad mexican food.
dirk1965 said:
I have also stopped the services for the apps that are restarting, and they keep coming back like bad mexican food.
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You could try unistalling your task killer and getting Advanced Task Killer (it's the one I personnaly use). Now killing a app won't stop it from restarting, you usually fix that in your running services. Also make sure that these apps arent widgets - in that case they will always restart
BWolf56 said:
You could try unistalling your task killer and getting Advanced Task Killer (it's the one I personnaly use). Now killing a app won't stop it from restarting, you usually fix that in your running services. Also make sure that these apps arent widgets - in that case they will always restart
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Actually, its Advanced Task Killer that I have installed. Yes, I totally understand apps vs. services. I'm stopping the services for the apps that have restarted, yet they continue to restart after the service has been killed. These apps are definitely not widgets.
dirk1965 said:
Actually, its Advanced Task Killer that I have installed. Yes, I totally understand apps vs. services. I'm stopping the services for the apps that have restarted, yet they continue to restart after the service has been killed. These apps are definitely not widgets.
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Umm, may I ask what are these apps?
The only app that takes couple tries for me to stop if the facebook one. Also, some app are made to constinusly refresh and get info from the internet. If that's the case with your apps, block their internet connection or change their settings to have it refresh manually.
Also, you can tell some apps not to start on boot up - that might temporaly fix your problem.
BWolf56 said:
Umm, may I ask what are these apps?
The only app that takes couple tries for me to stop if the facebook one. Also, some app are made to constinusly refresh and get info from the internet. If that's the case with your apps, block their internet connection or change their settings to have it refresh manually.
Also, you can tell some apps not to start on boot up - that might temporaly fix your problem.
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Apps like Google Maps, ColorNote, Daily Briefing and others. Its very random what apps decide to start.
dirk1965 said:
Apps like Google Maps, ColorNote, Daily Briefing and others. Its very random what apps decide to start.
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I duno about colornote but as for the others, they automaticly refresh using the internet and so like I said in my other post, you have to set it so the either can't access the internet (might as well unistall them in that case) or set their refresh to manual so it only refreshes when you "tap" on them.
Google maps refreshes for your location. That one will be a pain especially if you have the gps on.
If you get over a day of battery life with moderate usage and that you like these app, then I'd say to just live with it. If it's not the case, I suggest getting rid of them but if OS Monitor doesn't show them using your mem/battery, then they don't actually do/change much.
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I duno about colornote but as for the others, they automaticly refresh using the internet and so like I said in my other post, you have to set it so the either can't access the internet (might as well unistall them in that case) or set their refresh to manual so it only refreshes when you "tap" on them.
Google maps refreshes for your location. That one will be a pain especially if you have the gps on.
If you get over a day of battery life with moderate usage and that you like these app, then I'd say to just live with it. If it's not the case, I suggest getting rid of them but if OS Monitor doesn't show them using your mem/battery, then they don't actually do/change much.
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Okay, I'm with you. So where exactly do you set apps to refresh manually?
dirk1965 said:
Okay, I'm with you. So where exactly do you set apps to refresh manually?
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once on the app, hit your menu button (bottom left one ) and you should have a setting option - each app will be different but it mostly comes to the same thing. Also if you don't have any menu option, there should be a (i) kind of image/icon somewhere in the main app page but these are rare. Most app will have their setting menu.
Thanks. I'll try it and see what happens.
nice conversation, very informative. thanks guys
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lyrad12 said:
nice conversation, very informative. thanks guys
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Glad I could help
is the androids facebook app on google play store a battery eater?
if it is is there anyother replacement apps you reccomend
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is the androids facebook app on google play store a battery eater?
if it is is there anyother replacement apps you reccomend
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I heard it is but i always kill it after using but solution is simple, use ur browser facebook is same in browser like in app
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is the androids facebook app on google play store a battery eater?
if it is is there anyother replacement apps you reccomend
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jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
is the androids facebook app on google play store a battery eater?
if it is is there anyother replacement apps you reccomend
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This question has nothing to do with Galaxy S2. If you want to ask questions regarding an app do it in the appropriate section.
i use Facebook on Google Chrome.. therefore on background process plus battery saver and lag free..
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Duno know if it'll make a difference but the fb app just been updated and it now uses native android code rather than HTML 5
It is a battery drainer, to a point. I can get a good two hours continuous use of it. Also, the update has made it much faster and a lot smoother. Battery life is a bit better too.
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Setting it to not check for notifications every few minutes always helps too.
I Hate Facebook app
Hello,
the Facebook application is an accu killer.
It drains your batterylife crazy.
Use facebook with your Browser :good:
I just set it not to update on its own, problem solved.
I personally believe that the main weakness of the Nexus 5 is battery life. After trying for about a week the official app of Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app) without becoming satisfied (I have not found significant improvements, may have only a placebo effect), I switched to Greenify (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify) with the Donation Package.
Do some of you use it? Users comments on Play Store seem excited (so I decided to try the paid version).
The paid version also allows you to hibernate the system apps, but I have not enabled this function (and would therefore be excluded almost all Google Apps), according to you should enable this option? Or rather, what are the apps that should hibernate / greenify?
I use it, and I'm pretty satisfied, you can theoretically hibernate all the apps you want, but is not good with apps need too synching like emails, chat, messenger and apps wich you have widgets, otherwise they will not work properly
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I'm not sure what the point of Greenify is then. If you can't greenify the apps you need, like Gmail, texts, etc., then how is battery life saved?
Han Solo 1 said:
I'm not sure what the point of Greenify is then. If you can't greenify the apps you need, like Gmail, texts, etc., then how is battery life saved?
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geenify all the other crappily written apps that you install. if you greenify apps like gmail, you wont get your email in a timely manor. there are plenty of other apps that start up without you opening them that can be greenified.
simms22 said:
if you greenify apps like gmail, you wont get your email in a timely manor.
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Have you tested that? I haven't but push notifications should wake up Gmail.
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stremax said:
I use it, and I'm pretty satisfied, you can theoretically hibernate all the apps you want, but is not good with apps need too synching like emails, chat, messenger and apps wich you have widgets, otherwise they will not work properly
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I agree that it's not good with apps with widgets on the home screen because the author of Greenify specify it, but I not agree for apps that need synchronization/notifications like emails, chat, messenger because it they use GCM (Google Cloud Messaging) they can be hibernated without lose push notifications!
I doubt only with system apps...
I have greenified quite everything that does not provide notification.
I use it for Facebook and Netflix, that helped my battery tremendously.
I used to use Greenify on my HTC One. I'd hibernate everything that wasn't 'system' and thought it was doing some good. Then I discovered that I was actually getting better battery life WITHOUT using it, so I don't really believe that it does any good.
To reiterate what others have said, I use to Greenify to hibernate any apps that aren't pushing me notifications. I'm honestly not sure if I see a huge difference in battery because it could be a number of things from changing ROMs or updating kernels, etc. But one thing for sure is that I'm actually pretty satisfied with the battery life on my N5. With the N4 I would be lucky to last me to dinner, but now I have plenty of battery to spare by the time I'm passing out in bed.
So I guess Greenify can potentially help battery life, but it's definitely not the answer to a magically longer lasting battery.
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I personally believe that the main weakness of the Nexus 5 is battery life. After trying for about a week the official app of Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app) without becoming satisfied (I have not found significant improvements, may have only a placebo effect), I switched to Greenify (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify) with the Donation Package.
Do some of you use it? Users comments on Play Store seem excited (so I decided to try the paid version).
The paid version also allows you to hibernate the system apps, but I have not enabled this function (and would therefore be excluded almost all Google Apps), according to you should enable this option? Or rather, what are the apps that should hibernate / greenify?
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Greenify is excellent. But using Greenify without knowing the cause of the problem isn't going to fix anything. Think of it as a bandaid. A bandaid for poorly written (usually intentionally) apps. Facebook comes to mind.
It won't greenify system apps without using Xposed (which doesn't work with ART). These system apps, Gmail, Chrome, Keep (I froze all the other junk Google apps), are actually pretty well behaved these days (they had huge issues in the past).
I think that with KitKat, Greenify has lost some of it's usefulness, with how aggressive KK is in killing off unused apps.
The app you should be downloading is BetterBatteryStats. Upload some logs for us, and most likely we can fix the problem for you. When the cause of the problem is determined, you can then choose the best course of action yourself.
The battery on the N5 is fine. I ran a BBS log while I was sleeping. After 6ish hours, the usage was 0.1% per hour. I would say anywhere between 0.1-0.4 is good. Wifi and mobile network, doesn't matter much if connection is solid.
anyways, greenify is not there to help battery, its there to have more free ram. but it can potentially help battery if you are running apps that open themselves and drain battery, like that aweful facebook app.
In the last few weeks I have noticed a high data usage from Google +. See screens attached.
I have checked all settings and all syncs and auto back up have been disabled. Were disabled from the beginning. It's usage continues to go up from 25mb to 100mb a day. The data usage app states that it's all foreground data also.
Any help or suggestion's would be great.
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How muck time are you spending on g+ a day? Looks kinda normal to me.
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blackhemi4x4 said:
How muck time are you spending on g+ a day? Looks kinda normal to me.
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right, it says 500MB in the 'foreground', so that's probably from him having the application open and using it
Do you take photos?
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Don't use Google+ at all. Don't remember the last time I used it. Have only opened to make sure nothing is syncing etc.
Don't take many photos either.
Delete it and just use the mobile version through a browser. I stopped using it because it eats Battery and data in the background.
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I finally disabled Google+ because it was slaughtering my battery. I NEVER used it other than as an offline photo viewer (sync and auto upload were both off), but it was constantly running in the background and draining my battery. I finally ended up disabling Google+ entirely and just using the stock Gallery app, and my battery life has been fantastic since then.
Cheers for the replies.
If I disable it. Will apps that use it to back up (games) be affected?
KEICHI_ said:
Cheers for the replies.
If I disable it. Will apps that use it to back up (games) be affected?
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There are no apps that use the Google+ app (unless you count the "Photos" app that is a part of the Google+ app). Google+ authentication that is used in 3rd party apps comes from Google Play Services.
Gotta post this because I didn't think it was possible. So today I disabled google play service and the play store and a few other Google apps with titanium. I was already averaging about 8hrs SOT using helix engine and elemental kernal but then this happened
I've never heard of helix engine. What does it do?
Is it a replacement for Google play services? If not, crippling a smartphone to get good screen on time isn't very productive
uodii said:
I've never heard of helix engine. What does it do?
Is it a replacement for Google play services? If not, crippling a smartphone to get good screen on time isn't very productive
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-helix-engine-v1-0-beta-3-t3745746/page1
uodii said:
I've never heard of helix engine. What does it do?
Is it a replacement for Google play services? If not, crippling a smartphone to get good screen on time isn't very productive
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Too each its own. You can download apps from several different outlets that are safe. The only apps I had to replace was messenger with textra and gmail with Nine. I exported my contacts from the contacts app as vcf and restored them to my phone memory. I use vance tube which is an upgrade over youtube. When i want to sync my photos I'll enable google service framework to backup photos. Everybody doesn't need a phone to automatically and intrusively do simple task such as sync for them. The phone seems to even run better without those background services running .
mookiexl said:
Gotta post this because I didn't think it was possible. So today I disabled google play service and the play store and a few other Google apps with titanium. I was already averaging about 8hrs SOT using helix engine and elemental kernal but then this happened
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Nice. I installed helix. Never heard of it. How did you disable Google play services? Do I need the donate version? Thanks
Can I ask what are your settings for helix and ElementalX?
mookiexl said:
Too each its own. You can download apps from several different outlets that are safe. The only apps I had to replace was messenger with textra and gmail with Nine. I exported my contacts from the contacts app as vcf and restored them to my phone memory. I use vance tube which is an upgrade over youtube. When i want to sync my photos I'll enable google service framework to backup photos. Everybody doesn't need a phone to automatically and intrusively do simple task such as sync for them. The phone seems to even run better without those background services running .
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I'll be interested to see your results after a few weeks of use (including the photo backup phase).
@mookiexl what android you running?
I'd think that Pie + microg + Elementalx= Huge Profit Too...
DoR3M3 said:
@mookiexl what android you running?
I'd think that Pie + microg + Elementalx= Huge Profit Too...
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Correct. Though with the same set up I average 9hrs SOT with my Z2 force on 8.0 with I smaller battery than this phone.
Can't say I know much about Helix to trust it compared to microg and Elementalx...
hmm
DoR3M3 said:
Can't say I know much about Helix to trust it compared to microg and Elementalx...
hmm
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Here is an explanation of what it does:
Helix Engine is an Accessibility Service which automates dynamic performance profile switching (battery/balanced/performance modes) to provide better efficiency, improve battery consumption and performance depending on your usage.
For premium users, it integrates the use of Machine Learning to automatically adjust each tunable to achieve the desired jank percentage (how smooth or laggy the user wants their apps to run).
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Do you need Xposed for microG to work? I've always wanted to try it
I'm curious what, if any, settings you have enabled for ElementalX. I installed it after the November update. I thought that I had pretty decent battery life with only using Helix Engine. Right now I'd imagine it's about the same.
I'm also curious if there are ways to disable some aspects of Google Play Services. I unfortunately still use some Google things due to my school account. I remember in the past threads for better battery life but that seemed like a real hassle.
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Can't say I know much about Helix to trust it compared to microg and Elementalx...
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It just controls per app Cpu and Gpu speeds and governor settings. So I just set profiles to underclock less ram extensive apps I use a lot.
mookiexl said:
It just controls per app Cpu and Gpu speeds and governor settings. So I just set profiles to underclock less ram extensive apps I use a lot.
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I was just trying to point out before, using something like a custom rom with microG, or a Google rom debloated and with microG and then a custom kernel, I wasn't really sure if this was going to be much of help, or worth bothering over.
If Helix was such a big thing, don't you think you'd see it everywhere? Thing is, it's not...
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I was just trying to point out before, using something like a custom rom with microG, or a Google rom debloated and with microG and then a custom kernel, I wasn't really sure if this was going to be much of help, or worth bothering over.
If Helix was such a big thing, don't you think you'd see it everywhere? Thing is, it's not...
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Lol gotcha
You can disable Google Play Services if you uncheck Find My Device and Google Pay as device admin privileges.
After about 2 minutes of aimlessly speed reading to see what the hell this is I noticed there mean Opie developers page says in pulled how they're not they're working on this project any further so whatever this is was or can be God bless it
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Looks like a complete re-write happened. Check this out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79771541&postcount=3308