Hello... I'm a noob here in motoG. I came from Moto Razr XT910.
In my experience with the razr, there's a way to root and to flash custom rom without unlocking your bootloader.
For razr you just simply root your device first and then install a custom recovery like SafeStrap or Boot Menu Manager and then you're are free to create a rom slot (up to 4 different slots) besides your stock slot. In your stock slot you can keep your original rom and in the other slot you can flash any custom rom you wish to try or make it your daily driver.
Is there any way in MotoG that we can root or flash custom rom without unlocking bootloader?
Thanks before
Hi, I had from Moto Droid Bionic before Moto G. And support from @Hashcode and @dhacker is amazing.
But one thing that device lacking is unlocked bootloader
In locked bootloader device, root can be obtained through exploit and not every device have the same exploit. But in unlocked bootloader device, root can be obtained with just a simple flash supersu zip after you unlocked bootloader and installing customer recovery. Unlocked bootloader device, IMO, have more freedom than locked one, because not just ROMs you can also flash kernel. Something you can not have in locked bootloader device (except offcourse RAZR family with the power of kexec). Luckily for RAZR owners, they have hashcode and dhacker, without them there wont be any development.
The point is, in locked bootloader device the step is like this : root -> custom recovery -> custom ROM
But in unlocked bootloader device, the step is like this : unlock bootloader -> customer recovery -> root / custom ROM
One more thing about safestrap, have you tried one ROM for a long period of time? Because with safestrap, the longer you use a ROM, the performance will be decreasing. A patch is created but never merge by hashcode because it broke the core functionality of safestarp itself. A good write-up about this is in here, from the creator of the patch itself
Anyway, I never heard rooting without unlocking bootloader first. But if you change your mind you can see this thread
Orasion said:
Hi, I had from Moto Droid Bionic before Moto G. And support from @Hashcode and @dhacker is amazing.
But one thing that device lacking is unlocked bootloader
One more thing about safestrap, have you tried one ROM for a long period of time? Because with safestrap, the longer you use a ROM, the performance will be decreasing. A patch is created but never merge by hashcode because it broke the core functionality of safestarp itself. A good write-up about this is in here, from the creator of the patch itself
Anyway, I never heard rooting without unlocking bootloader first. But if you change your mind you can see this thread
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Well of course, without the help from hashcode and dhacker (and the other one developer who created BMM, sorry i forgot his name) there won't be any fun in razr.
Well i just wondering if anyone out there who can manage an awesome job like them, a working root and custom recovery without unlocking bootloader, and of course RSD LITE is my best friend if something worst happen
Well if you have free times, just take a look at razr android development thread, we can get a root without unlocking bootloader.
And I've already tried many roms in my razr, the most stable custom rom and i use it as daily driver is liquid smooth (I've been at this rom since maybe from the beginning of liquid smooth first release) , and just yesterday my razr is working flawlessly with original rom on stock slot, liquid smooth v 3.2 on slot 1 and liquid smooth v 4.0 lollipop on slot 2
So i'm still waiting another great developer for my MotoG :beer:
Benyegh said:
Well of course, without the help from hashcode and dhacker (and the other one developer who created BMM, sorry i forgot his name) there won't be any fun in razr.
Well i just wondering if anyone out there who can manage an awesome job like them, a working root and custom recovery without unlocking bootloader, and of course RSD LITE is my best friend if something worst happen [emoji14]
Well if you have free times, just take a look at razr android development thread, we can get a root without unlocking bootloader.
And I've already tried many roms in my razr, the most stable custom rom and i use it as daily driver is liquid smooth (I've been at this rom since maybe from the beginning of liquid smooth first release) , and just yesterday my razr is working flawlessly with original rom on stock slot, liquid smooth v 3.2 on slot 1 and liquid smooth v 4.0 lollipop on slot 2
So i'm still waiting another great developer for my MotoG [emoji481]
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Although exploits are possible it won't happen for the moto g. Nobody will bother looking when we can just unlock our bootloader.
dethrat said:
Although exploits are possible it won't happen for the moto g. Nobody will bother looking when we can just unlock our bootloader.
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Well i think there's a lot of motoG users are going to claim their warranty sometimes if something bad happens.
And how do you claim your warranty? Yeah right, a phone with the bootloader untouched
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Just purchased an HD MAXX from Ebay and the seller said it has a permanently unlocked bootloader and a custom ROM flashed. I'm upgrading from a Bionic that I rooted, installed SafeStrap and tried a few custom ROMs in the slots. I'm going to have the phone flashed over to Page Plus and the person doing the flashing told me it has to be on stock. The seller told me that the bootloader is permanently unlocked. The seller also told me how the bootloader was unlocked and I read something similar here that if it were unlocked at a certain point, or before a certain update was pushed out, it would be permanently unlocked,
I just don't want to screw anything up trying to flash it back to stock. It's running the TWRP custom recovery. I've flashed ROM's before, I've rooted phones before but from what I understand having a Razr with an unlocked bootloader is something special and I wouldn't want to screw that up. Thanks
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Just purchased an HD MAXX from Ebay and the seller said it has a permanently unlocked bootloader and a custom ROM flashed. I'm upgrading from a Bionic that I rooted, installed SafeStrap and tried a few custom ROMs in the slots. I'm going to have the phone flashed over to Page Plus and the person doing the flashing told me it has to be on stock. The seller told me that the bootloader is permanently unlocked. The seller also told me how the bootloader was unlocked and I read something similar here that if it were unlocked at a certain point, or before a certain update was pushed out, it would be permanently unlocked,
I just don't want to screw anything up trying to flash it back to stock. It's running the TWRP custom recovery. I've flashed ROM's before, I've rooted phones before but from what I understand having a Razr with an unlocked bootloader is something special and I wouldn't want to screw that up. Thanks
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The seller is correct. May 25 is dday for the ...79 build that locks the boot.
You do not state your build.
Get the latest twrp 2632 for a pocket proof noob recovery but for a successful cm 11 flash you need philz newest & philz 6079 for some flashes that err 7 on the 619 ver.
926 philz only comes in .img. Get recovery tools to load the img from homescreen. Philz is in the orig dev section.
When in doubt backup.
See my 907 stuff for lots similar things/guides that apply to the 926 as well.
SkyRocker_58 said:
Just purchased an HD MAXX from Ebay and the seller said it has a permanently unlocked bootloader and a custom ROM flashed. I'm upgrading from a Bionic that I rooted, installed SafeStrap and tried a few custom ROMs in the slots. I'm going to have the phone flashed over to Page Plus and the person doing the flashing told me it has to be on stock. The seller told me that the bootloader is permanently unlocked. The seller also told me how the bootloader was unlocked and I read something similar here that if it were unlocked at a certain point, or before a certain update was pushed out, it would be permanently unlocked,
I just don't want to screw anything up trying to flash it back to stock. It's running the TWRP custom recovery. I've flashed ROM's before, I've rooted phones before but from what I understand having a Razr with an unlocked bootloader is something special and I wouldn't want to screw that up. Thanks
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as long as you have the drivers installed on your pc all you have to do is grab one of the utilities from the dev forum and flash it back to stock. there is also an option in there to put the stock recovery back on. its all plug and click.
Thanks guys!
Appreciate the replies and info. My main concern was doing something to possibly "re-lock" the bootloader. From what you're saying I shouldn't have any problems, flash it back to stock, flash it to page plus, flash custom recovery, start trying out ROM's lol
Thanks again!
Once the fuse is blown it cannot be "rearmed". But I've heard that there are couple of those in our RAZR. But I don't think vz or moto are interested in making our phones inoperable.
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I can attest to the fact that once you unlock the bootloader, it won't get relocked since it's a physical change (blown e-fuse as others have mentioned).
I have flashed back to a previous stock, took the OTA and the bootloader was still unlocked.
However, never say never and when KitKat comes out for this phone, I will not be quick to install it. I will wait and see what everyone says before I accept it. No way I take an OTA that somehow finds a different way to lock the bootloader.
My old Razr HD has been broken for a couple months so I recently ordered a new one. Now I've heard that there's been a KitKat update for the phone as well as a new bootloader unlock method as well. Can someone tell me if I'll run into problems flashing a backup of my old phone, that was running a 4.4.2 rom since before the 4.1.2 bootloader patch , onto my new phone, which will have stock 4.4 kitkat with unlocked bootloader.
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My old Razr HD has been broken for a couple months so I recently ordered a new one. Now I've heard that there's been a KitKat update for the phone as well as a new bootloader unlock method as well. Can someone tell me if I'll run into problems flashing a backup of my old phone, that was running a 4.4.2 rom since before the 4.1.2 bootloader patch , onto my new phone, which will have stock 4.4 kitkat with unlocked bootloader.
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some confusion needs to be cleared up before i can answer that (im easily confused )
you unlocked on the original exploit and were running a custom rom?
assuming yes, what was the highest stock software you ever put on the phone?
assuming JB, you would only be able to restore the nandroid if the new phone was unlocked on jb.
assuming KK, you would be able to restore the nandroid directly to the new unlocked kk phone.
if i need to assume some more reply, and i would be happy to help.
bweN diorD said:
some confusion needs to be cleared up before i can answer that (im easily confused )
you unlocked on the original exploit and were running a custom rom?
assuming yes, what was the highest stock software you ever put on the phone?
assuming JB, you would only be able to restore the nandroid if the new phone was unlocked on jb.
assuming KK, you would be able to restore the nandroid directly to the new unlocked kk phone.
if i need to assume some more reply, and i would be happy to help.
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Yes I unlocked on the original method and ultimately ended up flashing a KK rom. So I guess I can flash my backup without problem on my new phone then once I unlock it. Also, is the new unlock method as easy as installing two apps as I read? Is there an updated Razr HD Utility/ Droid Toolbox I can use, I think I saw someone mention them but I couldn't find updated versions.
EDIT: I found the updated Razr HD Utility but I'll probably just use your guide instead. Thanks for the help!
I'm totally new to the Android world and i spent many hours to read this forum to learn as much as possible about my device and what i can do with it. But now, i need your help on a few things.
KitKat vs Lollipop, does it make sense to upgrade to Lollipop now or should i wait? Is there any major know bugs?
Since that i only have a 8gb device, i would like to clean the apps as much as possible. There's many apps that i don't need but they can't be uninstalled. For example, all the Motorola apps (is there something that we really need from them?), a few google apps like Google+, Google Play Films, Hangouts, etc that i will never use.
I want a stable ROM that i don't need to patch every day to solves problems. When i read about CM12 for Moto G, i see people that have problems here and there and wait for the next daily build to give it a try. I don't want to play that game!
If i install a custom rom, i guest that future updates will not come from Motorola. How the updates work afterward?
It's ok if i must have my device rooted
I have read about stock lollipop optimized version by lost101 but it don't think that the versions currently available will work for me. I'm in Canada and the versions that i see is Brazil or Asia.
thank you for you help!
You have the xt1032? Is there any warranty left? If there is no warranty, I recommend unlocking the bootloader before doing anything. It is easier to restore a bricked phone if you have an unlocked bootloader.
If you intend to stay on stock, you need some of the Motorola apps in order to install OTA updates.
Well what I will say is. I'm in the uk using lost101s BR optimized and I'm very pleased with it.
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You have the xt1032? Is there any warranty left? If there is no warranty, I recommend unlocking the bootloader before doing anything. It is easier to restore a bricked phone if you have an unlocked bootloader.
If you intend to stay on stock, you need some of the Motorola apps in order to install OTA updates.
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The phone is new but i don't care about the warranty. I've read that i can unlock the bootloader with the Motorola tutorial. I must be honest, i'm a little bit lost. I don't fully understand the difference between "unlocking bootloader" and "phone rooted"!
and yes the model i have is XT1032
skoub2 said:
The phone is new but i don't care about the warranty. I've read that i can unlock the bootloader with the Motorola tutorial. I must be honest, i'm a little bit lost. I don't fully understand the difference between "unlocking bootloader" and "phone rooted"!
and yes the model i have is XT1032
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You must unlock boot loader first then flash a custom recovery (manually or there is a tool in the development section) then rooting next.
Unlocking the bootloader allows you to install non-Motorola software. With a locked bootloader, the only software that can be loaded on your phone would have to be digitally signed by Motorola.
Rooting gives you administrative access to the system files.
You may not need an unlocked bootloader to get root and you do not need root to unlock a bootloader.
Start here to get the bootloader unlock code: https://accounts.motorola.com/ssoau...ct/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
I tried to install TWRP (any version available) but it take like 1 minutes to show the home screen and im not able to "swipe to unlock". So i have installed Philz recovery and then installed lost101 Retail Brazil 5.0.2 Stock ROM (Optimized) v1.1a. I'm playing with it right now and so far so good.
Hi: I have the Motorola Moto MAXX with unlockbootloader. (I bought it used)
How Can I come back to original version ???? (without unlockbootloader)
Thanks
Similar question... Somebody gave me several kilo of gold. I don't want it. How can I get rid of it?
You don't really give much information. Are you on stock firmware or some custom ROM? Do you have TWRP custom recovery? It's easy to go back to stock firmware, if that's what you want. You can even go back to stock while keeping TWRP custom recovery (which I recommend).
However, for all I know, you may already have stock firmware. Again, you don't give any real information.
All you say is you want to re-lock your bootloader, which is crazy talk. There's no need ever to re-lock the bootloader. Many people would give up a kidney to have an unlocked bootloader on some devices where it's not possible (like the Droid Turbo 2 or North America Snapdragon S8/S8+). And you want to LOCK your bootloader?
Why would you ever do that!?
The unlocked bootloader affects nothing. And yeah, you can still flash the stock ROM if you like outdated stuff, but... why?
Hey, I have a TMobile Moto One 5g Ace 128gb and I don't want to destroy this phone but it sucks being stuck in Android 10. I have rooted phones in the past including Samsung's, LGS and Zte but Motorola is a new beast and I'm afraid of bricking it. I also don't want to be stuck with a custom ROM that doesn't have camera or flash light or some other issue between software and hardware. So I'm asking a professional the NOOB questions.... How do I unlock the bootloader..... How do I install the driver's.... How do I install twrp and root my phone..... And finally how do I install a custom ROM and what's the best one to install? Thank you
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Hey, I have a TMobile Moto One 5g Ace 128gb and I don't want to destroy this phone but it sucks being stuck in Android 10. I have rooted phones in the past including Samsung's, LGS and Zte but Motorola is a new beast and I'm afraid of bricking it. I also don't want to be stuck with a custom ROM that doesn't have camera or flash light or some other issue between software and hardware. So I'm asking a professional the NOOB questions.... How do I unlock the bootloader..... How do I install the driver's.... How do I install twrp and root my phone..... And finally how do I install a custom ROM and what's the best one to install? Thank you
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After unlocking the bootloader, there is a TWRP that will allow you to flash custom ROMs. It is flashed with fastboot.
You flash custom ROMs from TWRP. There is a Telegram channel with at least two developers of custom ROMs. I have tried Havoc and crDroid. Each has its advantages and fan boys. I am currently running a rooted stock Canadian retail ROM. It is more complicated to run rooted stock. Read the guides carefully and follow the instructions.
Some advice from someone who has unlocked and flashed many phones in the past.
Leave it alone. There is truly nothing to be gained.