I am basically a noob when it comes to rooting, coding and other enthusiast level stuff !
But today I Unlocked the bootloader, installed CWM, Rooted(SuperSU) my Moto G(xt 1033) running 4.4.4 , My question is would I be able to get the Lollipop OTA ? If not what steps would I have to take to get it on my phone !
All help is appreciated , Thank you.
and this has been answered in about 3000 other threads already...
As @scott_doyland already said, this has been answered many times here. On the other hand, some of those answers are incorrect, so lets sum it up.
So far updating has worked with rooted phones as long as you had not touched any of the files that were going to be updated (like build.prop edits, new Adreno libraries or custom kernel and modules). However, you needed either stock recovery or PhilzCWM or TWRP. Stock CWM doesn´t work with OTA updates on Moto G.
With Lollipop it should be pretty much the same, but I have seen reports about TWRP and PhilzCWM not working this time. Not sure if was PEBKAC or there really is a problem, but stock recovery is always a safe way to go.
And one more thing. On Nexus 5 the update fails even if you just touch the system partition*. The update process doesn´t check for files anymore - it calculates a partition checksum and then updates it on filesystem level. We have not seen this yet on Motorola phones, but it may happen in the future. For now, rooted Moto phones are OK with OTA.
* Rooting installs su binary on the /system partition.
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Hey community,
after updating my 5.0 LTE 32 Shield Tablet some month ago and rooting it, I came to the conclusion that I don't really need root, but would like to continue receiving OTAs and have a device that just works.
Prio1:
Have a tablet with the latest updates installed.
Prio2:
As 1, but rooted.
I have made a apps+sysapps backup with Titanium.
What do you recommend as the next step?
Thank you very much.
All the best, Esshahn
Some additions:
1. I noticed I'm actually having 5.0 on my Shield. It's the 5.0.1 update plus the nVidia stuff that comes up all the time in the notification center.
I really just want to undo all root and whatnot actions and have a right out of the box experience on my Shield. I already did some stupid stuff (factory reset) and therefore lost my personal data anyway, so there's nothing to lose.
I noticed this forum isn't really active. If anyone doesn't know the answer, but could point me to the right forum for help that would be nice too.
Thank you
flash the full OTA through recovery: https://forums.geforce.com/default/...hread-released-2-17-15-/post/4464815/#4464815
then reinstall supersu through recovery, no factory reset needed
Thank you for replying.
I got annoyed by it all yesterday and flashed 2.1, now I don't have root or custom recovery anymore.
Now the fun part: When I want to update to 2.2 normally (since it's now supposed to be a standard device without any hacks), it just shows the error robot.
So now I'm stuck with 2.1 and can't move left or right.
After reading all those comments about messed up colors in 2.2 I'm wondering if its actually worth the effort to update?
Any idea on that Bogdacutu?
Thanks,
Esshahn
Esshahn said:
Thank you for replying.
I got annoyed by it all yesterday and flashed 2.1, now I don't have root or custom recovery anymore.
Now the fun part: When I want to update to 2.2 normally (since it's now supposed to be a standard device without any hacks), it just shows the error robot.
So now I'm stuck with 2.1 and can't move left or right.
After reading all those comments about messed up colors in 2.2 I'm wondering if its actually worth the effort to update?
Any idea on that Bogdacutu?
Thanks,
Esshahn
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you can flash the full OTA through TWRP or CWM, no idea why it won't work with stock recovery though
the update supposedly fixes the graphics glitches that appear in various apps on update 2.1, that might be a good reason to update
Thank you!
Actually, since I didn't have CWM installed anymore, I just sideloaded the latest OTA, which worked nice.
Phone: Motorola Moto G XT1032
OS: Android 4.4.4
Let me start by saying that I am new here, and I am not sure if this is the correct place to ask for help, but here I go anyway...
I am in desperate need of assistance. Against all better judgment, I rooted my phone a few months ago and now I am in a "pickle" so to speak. I recently recieved the Android 5.0.2 OTA Update notification. I have attempted multiple times to install this update but each and every time I do so, it returns me (after rebooting) a message along the lines of "software update was unsuccessful". I have sifted through some posts online with no avail. I am not the best person when it comes to my phone, however I do know how to get around on a computer.
I guess I should also add that I read somewhere that the phone must be un-rooted before attempting to upgrade, however, I have alrady attempted to do so with the "Full Unroot" option in SuperSu, but the only thing that seemed to have happened is the app is now deleted.
Another thing, I only rooted my phone and did not install any of the recovery programs like CWM or TWRP. This is stock android and no Custom ROM.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I have been waiting for Andoid L for a very long time and am very upset that I am having all these issues trying to use it.
Thank you for listening and look forward to seeing if anyone can help me.
DubstepCanada.
What you may try to want to do is to find the factory stock image online for which ever version you have and run it then upgrade to each new version till you get to lollipop update. Yes you will lose all of your data but if lollipop is what you want that is probably what your gonna have to do. Every time a factory update is available on Motorola before it does the update it will check for every app and checks file system and recovery. Anything out of the ordinary and it will usually not upgrade it. So if I was you look for the stock factory image of 4.4.4 and update to lollipop 5.0.2.
Alternatively flash a custom recovery, TWRP or Philz Touch, and then do a factory reset and flash one of the zips in this collection:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/rom-stock-motorola-lollipop-rom-t3017510
Less risk and you keep your photos etc.
Hello everyone, Like usual I managed to destroy to some extend the way my very old phone works. Its Rooted. And after an issue with my phone I reverted to a backup (using CWM) and everything went fine (expect SU Binairy wich failed, but got fixed easily).
Now I'm on stock rom. On Kitkat 4.4.4. So I wanted to install a new rom because I did it many times and never really encountered anything I couldn't fix myself (I've been working with overall technology for 4 years now). While searching the new roms xda offered, I realised that they where all for lolipop (or 90% of them) So I decided to update.
It didn't worked. It didn't worked so hard It bootlooped at least 5 times before I shut it down myself.
I don't remember where it failed, but it had to do with my System Version (Somewhere in a folder)
More info:
MOTO G XT1034 Kitkat 4.4.4
System version:
210.12.41.falcon_umts.AWSRetail.en.CA
Kernel :
3.4.42-gaf6580c
[email protected] #1
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TL;DR: How do I install this god forsaken lolipop update. (More info right up)
thegamerchunk1 said:
Hello everyone, Like usual I managed to destroy to some extend the way my very old phone works. Its Rooted. And after an issue with my phone I reverted to a backup (using CWM) and everything went fine (expect SU Binairy wich failed, but got fixed easily).
Now I'm on stock rom. On Kitkat 4.4.4. So I wanted to install a new rom because I did it many times and never really encountered anything I couldn't fix myself (I've been working with overall technology for 4 years now). While searching the new roms xda offered, I realised that they where all for lolipop (or 90% of them) So I decided to update.
It didn't worked. It didn't worked so hard It bootlooped at least 5 times before I shut it down myself.
I don't remember where it failed, but it had to do with my System Version (Somewhere in a folder)
More info:
TL;DR: How do I install this god forsaken lolipop update. (More info right up)
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Hello and thank you for using XDA Assist.
Sorry to hear about your trouble. Fortunately there is an XDA area dedicated to the Moto G at http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g which would be a good starting place. If you haven't done so already, I suggest you post your question with all relevant details in the friendly Q&A forum there at http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/help where the experts familiar with your device will be best able to guide you.
Good luck!
EDIT: Member has now posted in the suggested area. Thread closed.
When Android 7.0 ( Nougat ) is finally released for Motorola X Pure (2015) XT1575 ( Hopefully by the end of the year ), will SystemLess Root still work as is it does now for 6.0 or should we wait for someone to run it in a sandbox? Should we wait for the First Quarter of 2017 before we get anxious and upgrade to the newest Android, to give all of the developer time to perfect they're processes.
We all know now that it will be released as a STOCK image, but I have a lot of Root Apps (i.e. Titainium, Backup, Root Explorer, Xposed, Gravity Box for MM, etc) which I would still like to use. From what I can see of 7.0 it's not much different than 6.0 except for split screen and some other features that I'm sure we.re not aware of yet..
All I can say it It doesn't work on the G4... yet. I maintain a root thread on the G4, haven't found a viable way to root it on Nougat, all methods mess up data and a bunch of framework stuff (like settings menu). I assume the Nougat on this will be roughly the same. Don't worry, it will come though.
And Xposed isn't available for Nougat, it isn't known yet if it will be. Remember when Marshmallow came out they almost dropped Xposed completely, they were so close they had actually said they shutting down development of Xposed then had a unexpected breakthrough. The developers of Xposed have said that it will die in the hear future due to changes in Android.
Yeah, xPosed isn't something I would rely on moving forward. Right now AICP & CM are making great strides with N 7.1 and including Root so you can go that route and get the Root you desire. I'm on TurboROM which is still an MM base and will move to AICP N 7.1 once things settle in some more, but as of right now AICP is pretty darn nice as is. I've tested it every few days to see the progress, but for daily, revert to my most current backup of Turbo for now. AICP usually includes a LARGE amount of customizations. I go that route normally and remove all the AOSP stuff I can replace with Google APPs directly and use Moto Camera instead as well giving me a really clean and functional bug-free experience. GravityBox becomes mostly unnecessary with AICP or CM. Boy I'm rambling worse than normal today...
Back on track... Try out AICP with N 7.1 or wait for a Stock Rooted
Thank you for the reply, I wasn't sure if I should upgrade or not.
My pure has been running pretty good since I got it back in May of this year thru SWAPPA, and I have the latest security mod for May 1 (Build MPHS24.49-18-4), I wasn't sure if Lenovo would push another Security update for 6.0 (MM) or push 7.0 for the next update, and I didn't want to mess anything up..
I love this phone, and I'm not sure if and when I will upgrade, but I know it won't be MOTO/LENOVO anymore, unless they can unlock the bootloader for Pixel and gain root, I may lean that way...
NEVER, NEVER, Never will I go the way of the Apple, anything that comes from that place sucks, it's too restrictive..
DROID Forever !!!!!
CLETjB said:
Thank you for the reply, I wasn't sure if I should upgrade or not.
My pure has been running pretty good since I got it back in May of this year thru SWAPPA, and I have the latest security mod for May 1 (Build MPHS24.49-18-4), I wasn't sure if Lenovo would push another Security update for 6.0 (MM) or push 7.0 for the next update, and I didn't want to mess anything up..
I love this phone, and I'm not sure if and when I will upgrade, but I know it won't be MOTO/LENOVO anymore, unless they can unlock the bootloader for Pixel and gain root, I may lean that way...
NEVER, NEVER, Never will I go the way of the Apple, anything that comes from that place sucks, it's too restrictive..
DROID Forever !!!!!
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Pixel bootloader is unlockable. Verizon Pixel has bootloader unlock tool from the Sunshine team free of charge. Also It is rootable via newest SuperSU beta I believe.
I have been unsuccessful at rooting stock nougat, it just gets stuck on the boot animation forever and the battery heats up.
So, has anyone rooted it on nougat 7.0 and how?
Every time I try it just gets stuck loading and since I can't logcat to it I have no idea where its failing, but fastboot flashing the system image and the boot image fixes it, but then I am stuck back at non-root.
I know there has to be a way as many others say they are rooted just fine so I must be missing something.
I have several apps that use root and do system tweaks that would be helpful, mostly battery saving, option enabling, etc... But I can't use any of them for now. I especially wanted to use the undervolt and system governers min max settings.
roadrun777 said:
I have been unsuccessful at rooting stock nougat, it just gets stuck on the boot animation forever and the battery heats up.
So, has anyone rooted it on nougat 7.0 and how?
Every time I try it just gets stuck loading and since I can't logcat to it I have no idea where its failing, but fastboot flashing the system image and the boot image fixes it, but then I am stuck back at non-root.
I know there has to be a way as many others say they are rooted just fine so I must be missing something.
I have several apps that use root and do system tweaks that would be helpful, mostly battery saving, option enabling, etc... But I can't use any of them for now. I especially wanted to use the undervolt and system governers min max settings.
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Yes, lots of people have rooted it... latest TWRP and Magisk, nothing special to do at all... Flash or boot TWRP and flash Magisk zip file, reboot and go.
Unlocked bootloader must have.
1st method:
Boot twrp - fastboot boot twrp3x.img
Do full backup,
Restore boot only,
In twrp install magisk14.zip, optionally wipe cache+dalvik, reboot.
2nd method
...the same steps,
Twrp terminal - type + ok:
echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu
Install SuperSu2.82.zip, opt.wipe..., reboot.
Both method works.
I finally find magisk and it worked first time for me.
I tried SuperSU about 10 times in a row, systemless false, systemless true, etc, without it, and it always ended the same way boot loops.
So I am not sure that SuperSu2.82.zip is currently compatible with nougat, or at least with nougat + xt1565 hardware.
roadrun777 said:
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So I am not sure that SuperSu2.82.zip is currently compatible with nougat, or at least with nougat + xt1565 hardware.
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I wrote here(#8):
1st December 2017, 02:11 PM,
Here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/stock-xt-1572-reteu-7-0-ddumped-files-t3712521
30. November, 2017...rooted 29.
SuSu 2.82 is compatible.
Magisk Framework comes with SuperUser built in.. so when you flash another superuser, you mixing Binaries and it doesn't know which one to use.
By all means, read @Neffy27 's FAQ if you are starting out. even as a refresher for stuff you may have forgotten.
-But do think a bit about what you are doing:
-Do not modify your phone unless you are willing to toss it into the trash, as that could well be the result, no matter how well planned.
-Always have a spare on hand. I used my old Moto G3 when my MZP died suddenly. Worked just fine. You know, things really haven't changed all that much since Gingerbread...
-If you are going to be getting the latest OTA stuff by doing a full flash you might want to reflect on just how much, or little, you would gain. We all like to think that if we have the latest security patch we are somehow more safe, though I don't believe I have ever heard of a phone being affected by something just because it is not on the latest patch. I was running my old Moto z play on an aug '18 (if I remember correctly) patch with no problems up until a few weeks ago when it was done in by an expanding battery envelope which cracked the display. Consider, also, that many of the custom roms that are available are not updated at all - it takes a ton of work to try to get/keep a custom ROM current, AND working! Yet you never hear of viruses or the like.
- Be aware that if you modify ANYTHING on your phone, even as little as a new boot logo to cover up the unlocked bootloader message, you will prevent your phone from taking any further OTA updates. Some mods, like adding TWRP, may still allow it to try to download and install an OTA, but when it reboots to finish that install, it will fail since it needs to re-boot through stock recovery to complete. And it will continue offering you that update.
- There is a difference between the partition structure in our phones on 8.x, and those on 9. 9 is not full Treble, only a "partial" Treble, and really only the addition of a second set of partitions which OTA updates can use to update the system - instead of modifying the single partition set, it modifies the other (a or b) set and boots to that on update completion. If it fails it can always boot the other set. Theoretically! Makes it safer than the old way of doing OTA updates, but this may cause problems if you try to flash a 2 partition set phone with a single partition set ROM. I don't believe anyone has run any experiments on this, so YOU, when you flash things without thinking about the situation, may get an unusable phone. I do not know the answer here. If you read these forums which detail other's problems, you may trod a bit more hesitantly!
-The idea here is to have fun, and sometimes to experiment with new things. To a newbie, losing the use of a $200 phone can be a tough life lesson. Let's help them out by helping them to be cautious!
Agreed. I've been running stock with January 2018 patch, TWRP installed and Magisk for root and successful safety net bypass.
I'm looking to see if running Lineage will help streamline any update processes. It looks like they have their own recovery too.
Maintaining root has become a pain in my ass the past few years.
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SR3TLAW said:
Agreed. I've been running stock with January 2018 patch, TWRP installed and Magisk for root and successful safety net bypass.
I'm looking to see if running Lineage will help streamline any update processes. It looks like they have their own recovery too.
Maintaining root has become a pain in my ass the past few years.
Sent from my moto x4 using Tapatalk
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I would be careful about lineage as folks don't seem to be able to get back to stock from it.
I agree about maintaining root. I will likely just stay on stock with this one.