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New M8 running 4.4.2...Root now or take OTA, then Root?

Just got my new M8. What rooting process should I follow with 4.4.2? I have not upgraded to 4.4.3 as of yet. Not sure how this affects my rooting process. Can I just flow the rooting guide here?
Thanks,
Rob

If all you want is root you should stay on 4.4.2 since that's the only way to keep temp root (weaksauce) without going through the whole unlock boot loader unlock s-off method. If you do want to go that route instead, if you stay on 4.4.2 there might be a slim possibility you can unlock and s-off for free using the firewater method. Other wise you will have to pay $25 for sunshine (from the same developer as weak sauce and firewater) and that is guaranteed to get you s-off and unlocked. If you do update the only way to s-off and unlock will be the sunshine method. Hopefully this helps you out in making your decision

Thanks for the crazy fast reply. My goal is to root, and have the ability to install custom ROM's. I haven't rooted since the OG Droid/Thunderbolt days so I'm a little rusty. I'll look through the rooting guide here. I just don't want to brick my new phone.. I think I'll be good to go once I know where to start in the guide.
Rob

BubbaRob1978 said:
Thanks for the crazy fast reply. My goal is to root, and have the ability to install custom ROM's. I haven't rooted since the OG Droid/Thunderbolt days so I'm a little rusty. I'll look through the rooting guide here. I just don't want to brick my new phone.. I think I'll be good to go once I know where to start in the guide.
Rob
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Definitely try the firewater method first on 4.4.2 (if it works, donate if/what you can). If it doesn't work, you can take the OTA but I wouldn't recommend ever taking OTAs. I haven't used sunshine but I've heard it works amazingly and it's super easy...well worth the $25. If Firewater does work, updating to the newer firmware is a breeze too.

BubbaRob1978 said:
Thanks for the crazy fast reply. My goal is to root, and have the ability to install custom ROM's. I haven't rooted since the OG Droid/Thunderbolt days so I'm a little rusty. I'll look through the rooting guide here. I just don't want to brick my new phone.. I think I'll be good to go once I know where to start in the guide.
Rob
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Here's a tip... After you do the adb reboot and before you run firewater open the weak sauce app on your phone.

If you aren't super hard up for cash just do Sunshine, I tried firewater for like 6 hours, Sunshine takes 6 minutes. Just buy it, install and hit go. Well worth the $25.

Proper way to go about rooting

Okay so I just received my brand new M8 through Amazon and luckily it came shipped with 4.4.2 out of the box.
I may or may not want to install roms as of yet, but I at least want root to remove the bloatware. What's the best way to go about achieving that and to updating to 4.4.4 while maintaining root?

The two exploits for the m8 (firewater and sunshine) both unlock the bootloader and turn s-off. Firewater is free and only works on some 4.4.2 devices. Sunshine is SUPER easy, costs $25 (I think) and works on 4.4.3 or lower and is expected to be updated soon to work with 4.4.4.
Once s-off you should find (at a minimum) the pinned threads for details on flashing recovery and the super user/super su binaries.
Newbie (not intended to be insulting) advice: it sounds like you have a lot of reading to do. While your question is reasonable, it implies that there's a lot you may not know and gaining s-off opens parts of your phone that you can really screw up. Read read read everything you can BEFORE flashing anything.
Welcome to the m8.

RemnantKing2 said:
Okay so I just received my brand new M8 through Amazon and luckily it came shipped with 4.4.2 out of the box.
I may or may not want to install roms as of yet, but I at least want root to remove the bloatware. What's the best way to go about achieving that and to updating to 4.4.4 while maintaining root?
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Definitely don't take the OTA update to 4.4.4 until you've got s-off and root. They fine folks haven't cracked that nut yet. If I recall correctly, I used the weaksauce/firewater method. This is the guide I used: link. I'm pretty sure my device was on 4.4.2 when I bought it just a few weeks ago, but I'm not 100% certain. In any event, as long as you're not on 4.4.4 you're good.
As for getting to 4.4.4 once s-off, I flashed CleanROM and it's been running like a champ. Any 4.4.4 ROM you flash is going to require a firmware update. Firmwares can be found here.

http://theroot.ninja
Here is the sunshine link in case firewater doesn't work. Instructions and how to's are in there I believe.

cntryby429 said:
The two exploits for the m8 (firewater and sunshine) both unlock the bootloader and turn s-off. Firewater is free and only works on some 4.4.2 devices. Sunshine is SUPER easy, costs $25 (I think) and works on 4.4.3 or lower and is expected to be updated soon to work with 4.4.4.
Once s-off you should find (at a minimum) the pinned threads for details on flashing recovery and the super user/super su binaries.
Newbie (not intended to be insulting) advice: it sounds like you have a lot of reading to do. While your question is reasonable, it implies that there's a lot you may not know and gaining s-off opens parts of your phone that you can really screw up. Read read read everything you can BEFORE flashing anything.
Welcome to the m8.
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I feel where the OP is coming from. I've gained root/s-off on 6 different HTC devices to date and just about all of them have some new or different twists from the last. I've found it's best not to make assumptions with an unfamiliar device and to ask clear, concise questions. I'm sure his OP will answer the same question lots of people will have in the coming weeks.

loonatik78 said:
I feel where the OP is coming from. I've gained root/s-off on 6 different HTC devices to date and just about all of them have some new or different twists from the last. I've found it's best not to make assumptions with an unfamiliar device and to ask clear, concise questions. I'm sure his OP will answer the same question lots of people will have in the coming weeks.
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It's just that HTC is new and to me seems a bit more complicated than Samsung. I am used to Samsung and having Odin makes things way easier. But i'll definitely give it a shot, thank you guys.

Did you get firewater to work for you ?

RemnantKing2 said:
It's just that HTC is new and to me seems a bit more complicated than Samsung. I am used to Samsung and having Odin makes things way easier. But i'll definitely give it a shot, thank you guys.
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I've worked on a number of Samsungs. HTC's are a bit more complicated,but I strongly prefer HTC for a number of reasons.

Ways to get root on 5.0 LP

So what is the easiest way to root stock VZW LP 5.0?? I HAVE read around in the the forums for quite a bit but with all the updates going on to the software and with Sunshine 3.0 recently getting released, I haven't been able to find a solid answer.
I have held off updating, so I am completely stock on 4.4.4, with temp root via Weaksauce. I really only want root to run "Wifi tether router" for when I need it, and maybe uninstall some bloatware, otherwise I actually like stock just the way it is.
I know the update "breaks" root, and there isn't a way as of now to root 5.0, but then I see lots of people that have updated that are rooted.. So if anyone could be so kind as to explain how they are doing that, I would love to know. Is there maybe a Weaksauce 3.0 temproot on the horizon. I would be fine just running the update and waiting on that too as it's really not that big of a deal to go without it for a whlie. Thanks

baune7 said:
So what is the easiest way to root stock VZW LP 5.0?? I HAVE read around in the the forums for quite a bit but with all the updates going on to the software and with Sunshine 3.0 recently getting released, I haven't been able to find a solid answer.
I have held off updating, so I am completely stock on 4.4.4, with temp root via Weaksauce. I really only want root to run "Wifi tether router" for when I need it, and maybe uninstall some bloatware, otherwise I actually like stock just the way it is.
I know the update "breaks" root, and there isn't a way as of now to root 5.0, but then I see lots of people that have updated that are rooted.. So if anyone could be so kind as to explain how they are doing that, I would love to know. Is there maybe a Weaksauce 3.0 temproot on the horizon. I would be fine just running the update and waiting on that too as it's really not that big of a deal to go without it for a whlie. Thanks
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There's currently no way to unlock the bootloader of an m8 with the lollipop update and s-on. To really root (permanent, not temp weaksauce) you need a custom recovery. What you need to do in your situation is turn s-off while you still have 4.4.4. This is done with sunshine which will turn s-off and unlocks your bootloader. Then you can take the ota. Once on lollipop, since you are still unlocked, you can flash a custom recovery and then flash the binaries from within recovery to give you root access. That well be a "real root" which will persist through a reboot.

now that Jcase has released Sunshine 3.0, and most are having good luck with it, couldn't I take the update, run Sunshine 3.0 sometime later, install a custom recovery, then flash SuperSU from that? Or does it only provide S-off and not unlock the bootloader?

baune7 said:
now that Jcase has released Sunshine 3.0, and most are having good luck with it, couldn't I take the update, run Sunshine 3.0 sometime later, install a custom recovery, then flash SuperSU from that? Or does it only provide S-off and not unlock the bootloader?
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If you take the update sunshine3.0 will NOT work.

[Q] Any possible way to Root my Verizon HTC One M8 5.0.1?

I'm having all sorts of troubles trying to find any way to unlock my phone. I know with 4.4, I could TempRoot my phone using Sunshine and then, I could S-Off from there, but now you can't even TempRoot on 5.0. If anybody knows of a way or even knows of a downgrade, that would be awesome.

You need to find one of the guys with a java card. There's a thread about java card holders in the m9 forum. Go check it out and see if there's someone close enough to go visit or mail you phone to.

You don't need a java card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/general/downgrade-s-sunshine-purposes-t3202237
Downgrade, temp root with Kingroot, Sunshine, profit

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/general/downgrade-s-sunshine-purposes-t3202237
Downgrade, temp root with Kingroot, Sunshine, profit
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okay i downgraded, i ran Kingroot a couple times and it said root successful but when i go to start to sunshine app my phone restarts.. any thought?

BAttitude7689 said:
okay i downgraded, i ran Kingroot a couple times and it said root successful but when i go to start to sunshine app my phone restarts.. any thought?
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Keep trying it, it took me several tries, also I think I may have used the desktop version of kingroot.

BAttitude7689 said:
okay i downgraded, i ran Kingroot a couple times and it said root successful but when i go to start to sunshine app my phone restarts.. any thought?
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It's a PIA to make root stick for Sunshine with King Root but it works. Search the Sunshine thread, people posted what worked for them.

I, too, can confirm Kingroot worked for me on 5.0.1. It is a pain. Just be persistent until it finally works.

I believe BAttitude7689 was successful with rooting his phone (read in another thread)

So I downgraded to whatever that link had. Kingroot ran one time, unsuccessfully, and now gets stuck at "verify root status." I've tried rebooting, reinstalling the app, everything.
Verify root status.... over and over and over.

Uninstall, reinstall kingroot and try again. I literally had to repeat the process nearly a day and a half to finally get it to the point where Sunshine would complete (and got TWRP to install).

I was lucky that my second M8 was a leftover in-store (not a replacement from service center) came with KitKat and I immediately ran Sunshine. But on a friend's replacement from service, it came with 5.0.1 and I had to do the dance. Dottat was thoughtful enough to give us the stagefright downgrader that enables Kingroot to run at all, but it's not a perfect science.

You also have the option to ship the phone to the sunshine devs & they will happily soff your phone. They have a way with 5.0.1, but its not stable for release

Took me about 3 hours last night with a bit of trial and error since every time my phone rebooted I had to Kingroot all over again but eventually for some reason it wound up working. I didn't RUU or flash TWRP until after Sunshine confirmed that I was s-off. Also, try different versions of Kingroot, I played with a few different ones and different SU apks as well.

Drunkula said:
I, too, can confirm Kingroot worked for me on 5.0.1. It is a pain. Just be persistent until it finally works.
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Yup same here. It took me a like 6 or 8 tries. I also used Sunshine for the next level s-0ff! I was able to install the custom teamwin recovery with flashify too. Custom roms here I go.

Can confirm it works, I rooted 5.0.1 this way as well, and just to chime in with everyone else, it is a pain in the ass, but plenty worth it.

Did anyone else have the problem where the phone rebooted after a successful root? I need to use sunshine to s-off but phone keeps rebooting after a random amount of time. Somewhere between 5 seconds to a minute
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Sorry I should've read the whole conversation before posting

A new version of sunshine was just released about one or two hours ago. Here is the newest entry in the changelog: Version 3.2.1
Merged Droid Turbo Support into main release
Added new root for Droid Turbo (no more mofo/kingroot needed)
Added new root for Some HTC (like m8, no more htcdev/kingroot needed)
Removed 626s support for now*

Sunshine now works without kingroot
I had been checking the threads every couple weeks for the last few months waiting for Sunshine to get updated to work with Lollipop. As soon as I saw that an update was available and that someone had used it successfully I ran it and it worked great. It is nice to have a rooted phone again. :good:

Sunshine now supports HTC One M8 5.0.1 without kingroot

Thought this was big enough to stand on it's own, rather than reply to the multiple threads on this topic. With the release of Version 3.2.1:
Merged Droid Turbo Support into main release
Added new root for Droid Turbo (no more mofo/kingroot needed)
Added new root for Some HTC (like m8, no more htcdev/kingroot needed)
Removed 626s support for now
During the initial run, they now have a "temp root" selection, which eliminates the need for kingroot (i'm assuming). I just s-offed my HTC 5.0.1 version phone without kingroot, so enjoy!

patrickt333 said:
Thought this was big enough to stand on it's own, rather than reply to the multiple threads on this topic. With the release of Version 3.2.1:
Merged Droid Turbo Support into main release
Added new root for Droid Turbo (no more mofo/kingroot needed)
Added new root for Some HTC (like m8, no more htcdev/kingroot needed)
Removed 626s support for now
During the initial run, they now have a "temp root" selection, which eliminates the need for kingroot (i'm assuming). I just s-offed my HTC 5.0.1 version phone without kingroot, so enjoy!
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after that do u know how to permanently root?

Vicentedroid said:
after that do u know how to permanently root?
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Sunshine = S-OFF = permanent root

It's probably early still, but can anyone tell me if we still need to downgrade our Lollipop version (S-ON) for this to work? Either way, I already planned to s-off this weekend, if no one else has tried either by then, I'll give it a shot and report back.
Thanks for all your hard work devs!!!

gettinwicked said:
It's probably early still, but can anyone tell me if we still need to downgrade our Lollipop version (S-ON) for this to work? Either way, I already planned to s-off this weekend, if no one else has tried either by then, I'll give it a shot and report back.
Thanks for all your hard work devs!!!
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No downgrade needed. I did it on 5.0.1 without kingroot.

patrickt333 said:
No downgrade needed. I did it on 5.0.1 without kingroot.
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Sweet! That makes me even happier! I've been putting doing this off, and I'm kinda glad I did now, this is going to be a ton easier! Thanks everyone!

Need Help
I haven't Rooted a phone since my old Droid X. I took the leap, did the S-Off with Sunshine, that went well. Now I'm faltering, been watching all the videos on the Forum and cant see where i'm failing. I installed TWRP manager able to get into HBOOT and Recovery. but whenever I try to run SuperSu it says i'm not Rooted.
Did I skip a step ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Lyodster said:
I haven't Rooted a phone since my old Droid X. I took the leap, did the S-Off with Sunshine, that went well. Now I'm faltering, been watching all the videos on the Forum and cant see where i'm failing. I installed TWRP manager able to get into HBOOT and Recovery. but whenever I try to run SuperSu it says i'm not Rooted.
Did I skip a step ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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You just need to flash supersu.zip in twrp. That installs the binaries needed for supersu app to work.
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I saw this the other day, sweet news for us! My M8 is currently in the repair shop for a new USB board, wore out. When it's back I'm doing S-Off and using it over my Note 5. Will report back on how it went, hate being without root on both my Note 4 and Note 5! Stoked! It's Verizon so I couldn't use HTCDev and it killed me.

Yes, been waiting for this for quite a while. I ran sunshine on Christmas day and finally got my HTC One M8 s-off and rooted.
I flashed TWRP then tried out nusense7 which was nice. But I'm now on CM13 nightly builds and they have been great so far. It is nice to have rooted phone again.

So glad I'm a procrastinator too
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gettinwicked said:
Sweet! That makes me even happier! I've been putting doing this off, and I'm kinda glad I did now, this is going to be a ton easier! Thanks everyone!
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Thanks for bringing this up, I just did this weekend but the first try the temp root didn't work and the device rebooted, but try it again if this happens to you as well because the next try it all worked

I wanted to check back in just to be another testimony that it truly does in fact work now!! It was so easy, I tried this about a month ago after I first saw this thread, it didn't take... Prob just needed to try it second time around. So, I got distracted on other things for a while & figured I would give it a shot. Worked perfectly first go round... only thing is I haven't gotten my phone rooted yet (a work in progress) as I said before I get distracted easily

M-FayeHTC said:
I wanted to check back in just to be another testimony that it truly does in fact work now!! It was so easy, I tried this about a month ago after I first saw this thread, it didn't take... Prob just needed to try it second time around. So, I got distracted on other things for a while & figured I would give it a shot. Worked perfectly first go round... only thing is I haven't gotten my phone rooted yet (a work in progress) as I said before I get distracted easily
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Congrats on freeing your phone. :good:
As for root, if you flash a custom ROM, root will come with the ROM.
If you want to stay on stock you can flash TWRP custom recovery then flash latest stable version of SuperSU in TWRP.
Link to latest SuperSU
[STABLE][2016.02.02] SuperSU v2.65
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053

Successfully S-Off'd both of my HTC One M8's with SunShine! Worth every dollar. $50 well spent! (On both)

verizon htc m8 5.0.1
patrickt333 said:
Thought this was big enough to stand on it's own, rather than reply to the multiple threads on this topic. With the release of Version 3.2.1:
Merged Droid Turbo Support into main release
Added new root for Droid Turbo (no more mofo/kingroot needed)
Added new root for Some HTC (like m8, no more htcdev/kingroot needed)
Removed 626s support for now
During the initial run, they now have a "temp root" selection, which eliminates the need for kingroot (i'm assuming). I just s-offed my HTC 5.0.1 version phone without kingroot, so enjoy!
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Hello,
i´m new in this kind of things, i bought a new verizon htc m8 that is still locked and unroot, i want to know if with this "sunshine" i can unlocked the phone and then root it?
please, i would really appreciate if anyone could give me the steps to do it, cuz i want to unlock it and install a custom rom like Lineage.
Thanks and sorry for my english.