Is it possible to update to 23.3.24 without RSD or any other program? Can I put SU in survival mode and accept the OTA? Then flash TWRP to regain root..
Correction.. SU survival mode to retain root
You should be ok......SuperSU survival mode, should retain root (it did for me when I accepted the OTA). Plus youve got unlocked d BL, so you would have other options if something goes wrong.
Just make sure you unfreeze all stock bloatware, as I believe the OTA does a check and may not install if any stock apps are missing.
reddawn71 said:
Is it possible to update to 23.3.24 without RSD or any other program? Can I put SU in survival mode and accept the OTA? Then flash TWRP to regain root..
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Just download the FXZ for your current version and flash only system and recovery partitions. That will keep your data and allow you to update
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There is a new update out. Is there anything special we need to do to preserve root if we are rooted? I don't have CWM installed.
Would it be advisable to use OTA rootkeeper?
EDIT - OTA rootkeeper didn't work and root was lost. The update must wipe /system. I guess I'll have to try rooting when I get home again. Hopefully that remains the same. I didn't want to have to flash recovery and jump through hoops updating the Shield which is why I left the stock recovery on there... Oh well. Bootloader remains unlocked so I suppose it should be easy as entering the one fastboot line I used from Gnurou...
Edit 2 - Root using Gnurou's instructions worked.
Evo_Shift said:
There is a new update out. Is there anything special we need to do to preserve root if we are rooted? I don't have CWM installed.
Would it be advisable to use OTA rootkeeper?
EDIT - OTA rootkeeper didn't work and root was lost. The update must wipe /system. I guess I'll have to try rooting when I get home again. Hopefully that remains the same. I didn't want to have to flash recovery and jump through hoops updating the Shield which is why I left the stock recovery on there... Oh well. Bootloader remains unlocked so I suppose it should be easy as entering the one fastboot line I used from Gnurou...
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I have an idea that might help keep root, let me check it out.
UPDATE
It won't work in this case. The update patches recovery and flashes a new boot.img
UPDATE2
If you have CWM Recovery installed, after flashing the update it will ask if you want to disable recovery flash and then if you want to root.
Yes, you will have to re-run the fastboot command after each OTA. Preserving root after an OTA would require a custom recovery (like CWM). I tried to apply this OTA with the version of CWM agrabren uploaded and it failed, so until this is fixed I guess the best thing to do it just re-root after each OTA
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Yes, you will have to re-run the fastboot command after each OTA. Preserving root after an OTA would require a custom recovery (like CWM). I tried to apply this OTA with the version of CWM agrabren uploaded and it failed, so until this is fixed I guess the best thing to do it just re-root after each OTA
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Did it fail with status 7?
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It would have (failed with status 7) agrabren called the shield thor in his recovery and nvidia called it roth in the update. So the update was expecting roth for the device name and got thor.
Thats why it worked for me because i renamed it roth when i modded the recovery.
IF agrabren complains I will remove the link but for now.
Modded version is here
The ota zip is here
Hey guys,
Last time, I asked you about some technical details of rooting.
Now, I have some little questions about unrooting
Lets say I have rooted my device with CF-Auto-Root (which is great by the way...)
so now I have SuperSu and the su binary in /system/xbin, stock ROM and recovery, and unlocked bootloader.
Now I wish to unroot without loosing any data.
1. If I manually delete su, does it enough to say I have unrooted my phone? Or any other actions are required?
2. What does the unroot option in SuperSu actually do?
3. If I flash stock recovery (even though I already have it), will it unroot my device?
4. How does the survival mode of SuperSu keep me rooted in case of OTA update?
Thanks,
Casteel.
There are existing threads that can help you.
Please read:
Q&A - all you need to know about android
General - how to flash factory images
General - ota help-desk
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Casteel said:
Hey guys,
Last time, I asked you about some technical details of rooting.
Now, I have some little questions about unrooting
Lets say I have rooted my device with CF-Auto-Root (which is great by the way...)
so now I have SuperSu and the su binary in /system/xbin, stock ROM and recovery, and unlocked bootloader.
Now I wish to unroot without loosing any data.
1. If I manually delete su, does it enough to say I have unrooted my phone? Or any other actions are required?
2. What does the unroot option in SuperSu actually do?
3. If I flash stock recovery (even though I already have it), will it unroot my device?
4. How does the survival mode of SuperSu keep me rooted in case of OTA update?
Thanks,
Casteel.
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1. If you remove the binary, you are essentially unrooted.
2. The unroot option does the same thing as above.
3. Flashing stock recovery alone, will not remove root permissions.
4. I'm not certain on the technical aspects of Survival mode, but I believe, it runs a script after the OTA to retain root.
El Daddy said:
1. If you remove the binary, you are essentially unrooted.
2. The unroot option does the same thing as above.
3. Flashing stock recovery alone, will not remove root permissions.
4. I'm not certain on the technical aspects of Survival mode, but I believe, it runs a script after the OTA to retain root.
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Cool. Thanks.
Why flashing stock recovery won't remove root, but OTA update will?
What's the difference between these processes?
Casteel said:
Cool. Thanks.
Why flashing stock recovery won't remove root, but OTA update will?
What's the difference between these processes?
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The reason why is because recovery is on a separate partition. It does not effect anything on /system/ where the su binary lies.
OTA's patch and update files on /system/ causing SU to be removed in most cases. In some cases having root may cause the OTA to fail, requiring removal of the binary before continuing with the OTA.
Click the link in my signature for the Nexus 5 OTA Help-Desk for more info on OTA's
El Daddy said:
The reason why is because recovery is on a separate partition. It does not effect anything on /system/ where the su binary lies.
OTA's patch and update files on /system/ causing SU to be removed in most cases. In some cases having root may cause the OTA to fail, requiring removal of the binary before continuing with the OTA.
Click the link in my signature for the Nexus 5 OTA Help-Desk for more info on OTA's
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Great, thank you very much :good:
And thanks for referring to the links, looks useful indeed.
Deleting SuperSU or unrooting will prevent apps from gaining root access, but it won't return your phone to stock. The only way to return to stock is to reflash the factory image.
I just got my Shield Tablet and rooted it. I keep getting two OTA notifications, one says ROM Update the other says Tegra Update. Will I keep root of I do the OTA updates?
I'd like to get a recovery added, but it seems that all the recoveries are incomplete. Is there a method to install recovery without a separate computer?
DFA1 said:
I just got my Shield Tablet and rooted it. I keep getting two OTA notifications, one says ROM Update the other says Tegra Update. Will I keep root of I do the OTA updates?
I'd like to get a recovery added, but it seems that all the recoveries are incomplete. Is there a method to install recovery without a separate computer?
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You can try the paid version of SuperSU to preserve root or the THT Rootkeeper (the other big root keeper doesn't work past 4.2) If you update the device to the official OTA, you will need a PC to reflash the recovery but you will not need to unlock the bootloader again.
NapalmDawn said:
You can try the paid version of SuperSU to preserve root or the THT Rootkeeper (the other big root keeper doesn't work past 4.2) If you update the device to the official OTA, you will need a PC to reflash the recovery but you will not need to unlock the bootloader again.
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yup, lost root but it's okay, lollipop was awful so unlocked, reflashed previous ota, rerooted. Thanks
Just got this phone new from cricket. I'm having issues making calls. I downloaded the update. But am wondering should I use it. I'm wanting to do custom roms exc. I have not unlocked boot loader or anything yet. If I do the update will I still be able to unlock the boot loader and root custom roms exc? 6045o is the type
First of all I suggest unlocking the bootloader, because if you update to MM you will lose fastboot commands (you can have them back but it's tedious). Then maybe install the latest TWRP, update to MM and then systemless root or custom ROM If you want to update to latest official firmware but don't want to lose TWRP/root just download the update without installing it and then flash it with chainfire's FlashFire.
thanks
plumbe0 said:
First of all I suggest unlocking the bootloader, because if you update to MM you will lose fastboot commands (you can have them back but it's tedious). Then maybe install the latest TWRP, update to MM and then systemless root or custom ROM If you want to update to latest official firmware but don't want to lose TWRP/root just download the update without installing it and then flash it with chainfire's FlashFire.
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thanks i have twrp recovery and unlocked boot loader. next step. im wanting to b able to play pokemon go. chainfire requires root. i havent rooted yet. because i know pokemon go wont work. any ideas what i can do? p.s. already backed up system image boot and efs. thanks again.
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thanks i have twrp recovery and unlocked boot loader. next step. im wanting to b able to play pokemon go. chainfire requires root. i havent rooted yet. because i know pokemon go wont work. any ideas what i can do? p.s. already backed up system image boot and efs. thanks again.
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First of all make sure you never mount /system as rw when using TWRP.
Then just do a systemless root (download SuperSU from chainfire website on your phone, launch TWRP's terminal and type "echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu", then flash SuperSU as usual), systemless root won't be detected by apps/os. Will probably be detected by SafetyNet but i'm not sure PoGo uses it. In case you have problems with root detection you can try suhide by Chainfire.
Also note that systemless Xposed (rootcloak, etc) and V4A are possible via Magisk (just search it on XDA).
Currently have an Rooted S8 which runs TWRP.. whats the best method for unrooting the device as I want OTA updates?
minalm said:
Currently have an Rooted S8 which runs TWRP.. whats the best method for unrooting the device as I want OTA updates?
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It depends on whether you're using SuperSU or Magisk.
To unroot if you have SuperSU, open SuperSU app, then open its app settings, find the setting that says something like "cleanup for unroot and uninstall". That will remove the su binaries and uninstall the SuperSU app.
To unroot if you have Magisk, use the Magisk uninstaller.zip(might cause bootloop which then requires flashing stock firmware via Odin)
Or you can just flash the stock firmware via Odin to remove root. You're going to have to get rid of TWRP also which would require you to flash a copy of stock recovery to replace TWRP. Flashing stock firmware via Odin will replace TWRP and remove root all in one shot, no need for extra steps or tricks.
Then you can do the OTA update.
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An even better option is as follows.
The OTA update might even be available to the public to download, if so, you can download the update manually(not via OTA) then flash the update via Odin, this will replace TWRP, remove root and update the device all in one shot. This way, you won't have to do anything except flash the update and you're done. No need to replace TWRP and unroot before doing the OTA update. This method skips all of that and gets you the update without having to do all the extra work. You'll have to root the device again and flash TWRP after the update has been applied.
If you choose to do the OTA instead, make sure you are completely unrooted and are back on stock recovery, you can't have root or TWRP when you do the OTA, it will not work that way.
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It depends on whether you're using SuperSU or Magisk.
To unroot if you have SuperSU, open SuperSU app, then open its app settings, find the setting that says something like "cleanup for unroot and uninstall". That will remove the su binaries and uninstall the SuperSU app.
To unroot if you have Magisk, use the Magisk uninstaller.zip(might cause bootloop which then requires flashing stock firmware via Odin)
Or you can just flash the stock firmware via Odin to remove root. You're going to have to get rid of TWRP also which would require you to flash a copy of stock recovery to replace TWRP. Flashing stock firmware via Odin will replace TWRP and remove root all in one shot, no need for extra steps or tricks.
Then you can do the OTA update.
OR
An even better option is as follows.
The OTA update might even be available to the public to download, if so, you can download the update manually(not via OTA) then flash the update via Odin, this will replace TWRP, remove root and update the device all in one shot. This way, you won't have to do anything except flash the update and you're done. No need to replace TWRP and unroot before doing the OTA update. This method skips all of that and gets you the update without having to do all the extra work. You'll have to root the device again and flash TWRP after the update has been applied.
If you choose to do the OTA instead, make sure you are completely unrooted and are back on stock recovery, you can't have root or TWRP when you do the OTA, it will not work that way.
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you have given a very detailed explanation and i fell like a simple thank you would be enough. you helped me out now and i feel somewhat obliged to thank you this way.
cheers
Is the things still the same... namely unrooting will not return KNOX and can not use Samsung warranty?
hi
i have a rotted phone s8..i flashed a stock rom, but phone is still rooted. Some apps like us google pay,mcdonalds tell me that phone is rooted..What i can do?