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[Q] A way to root but stay stock so can keep getting OTA s?

(noob) Question: Is there a way to root my OnePlus and keep stock recovery (for now at least) so I can just get the OTA updates? I want to have root so I can use Xposed and LMT but still stay stock. Thanks

scott62185 said:
(noob) Question: Is there a way to root my OnePlus and keep stock recovery (for now at least) so I can just get the OTA updates? I want to have root so I can use Xposed and LMT but still stay stock. Thanks
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yep, just install the drivers, unlock the bootloader, install a recovery (i used twrp), then flash supersu. go over to the android development folder and there are toolkits there. im running stock rooted right now.

you dont have to unlock the bootloader or flash a recovery to root. just run "fastboot boot recovery.img" itll boot the alternative recovery, and you can flash the super user zip from there. it will only boot twrp or cwm but not flash it to the device and will not replace the stock recovery.
unlocking the bootloader just allows you to write to the boot partition and boot different recoveries and kernels from the device. it does set off a tamper flag which could void your warranty. but unlocking is not required for modifying the system partition which is what you are doing when you root.

scott62185 said:
(noob) Question: Is there a way to root my OnePlus and keep stock recovery (for now at least) so I can just get the OTA updates? I want to have root so I can use Xposed and LMT but still stay stock. Thanks
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You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp

inffy said:
You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp
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Oh wow, I didn't know that. Great! Thanks

inffy said:
You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp
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That won't let you keep root, though it's easy to flash SuperSU from TWRP after every OTA.
A solution to OP's problem could be SuperSU Pro which lets you keep root even after OTA updates. I haven't tested it yet but the option is there.

CrashTestDroid said:
That won't let you keep root, though it's easy to flash SuperSU from TWRP after every OTA.
A solution to OP's problem could be SuperSU Pro which lets you keep root even after OTA updates. I haven't tested it yet but the option is there.
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I unlocked my device, then booted into twrp via adb, then flashed supersu but i have no root. the app is installed but i cannot grand titanium backup for example root rights. so the root process did not worked but why? tried it severall times and downloaded everything from scratch sever times. no chance. help me pls..

blax123 said:
I unlocked my device, then booted into twrp via adb, then flashed supersu but i have no root. the app is installed but i cannot grand titanium backup for example root rights. so the root process did not worked but why? tried it severall times and downloaded everything from scratch sever times. no chance. help me pls..
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open the SuperSU app, see if it complains about missing busybox or anything

CrashTestDroid said:
open the SuperSU app, see if it complains about missing busybox or anything
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How do I install busybox?
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Nevermind, I found the solution. I had to disable a Option in SuperSU settings because the CM comes not rooted from out of the box
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inffy said:
You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp
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If I do this, will I lose root upon OTA?

sharp2G said:
If I do this, will I lose root upon OTA?
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No if you have supersu pro installed and have selected the setting to keep root after ota

Will towelroot work on this?

Quinnaay said:
Will towelroot work on this?
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im not sure people have really tried. youre welcome to give it a shot as it says its possibly compatible with everything. but theres already a root method that doesnt require bootloader unlocking and installs supersu which is most peoples favorite root manager.

Towelroot is incredibly simple I get a little nervous otherwise.. Is there a tutorial on the easy alternative, I only want titanium backup to restore my apps from s4 (considering I can do that)

inffy said:
No if you have supersu pro installed and have selected the setting to keep root after ota
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Where is the option to "keep root after OTA" in SU?

I managed to boot the twrp recovery on 4.4.2..but updated to 4.4.4 33R and now it says SU binaries not installed...also cant boot recovery on fastboot as it says need to unlock the bootloader?
Why did update prevent this now?

tofuboi01 said:
I managed to boot the twrp recovery on 4.4.2..but updated to 4.4.4 33R and now it says SU binaries not installed...also cant boot recovery on fastboot as it says need to unlock the bootloader?
Why did update prevent this now?
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Did you untick the option to update CM recovery during your update?

I didnt untick it no, but i never flashed the custom recovery in the first place as i just booted it up from fastboot on 25R, on 33R however its been disabled and requires unlocked bootloader.

inffy said:
You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp
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@inffy,
Hi,
I unlocked bootloader before installing 22R and updated 25, 30, 33 & 38R with OTA from 'System updates' menu. After 38R i flashed TWRP recovery and rooted my phone without unlocking the phone again & its working fine. Perhaps, the we don't need to unlock bootloader again once it unlocked. Can anyone confirm it??

On H83010i, bootloader unlocked not rooted. Want H83020f rooted

I have successfully unlocked the bootloader my H83010i version.
I started down the path to root my device using H83010d tot file but stopped because I didn't know if when I upgrade to android 7.0 versions if I would lose root?
Therefore what is the easiest way to get to H83020f rooted?
How do I go from H83010i to H83020f and be rooted?
I have rooted a lot of samsung galaxy phones but this is my first LG so I am struggling a bit to understand how to upgrade. I assume if I do an OTA update it will install the latest version? I checked for system updates and it just said there is an update and to start downloading it but I don't know which update version that is?
Please advise.
Thanks in advance.

buyslake said:
I have successfully unlocked the bootloader my H83010i version.
I started down the path to root my device using H83010d tot file but stopped because I didn't know if when I upgrade to android 7.0 versions if I would lose root?
Therefore what is the easiest way to get to H83020f rooted?
How do I go from H83010i to H83020f and be rooted?
I have rooted a lot of samsung galaxy phones but this is my first LG so I am struggling a bit to understand how to upgrade. I assume if I do an OTA update it will install the latest version? I checked for system updates and it just said there is an update and to start downloading it but I don't know which update version that is?
Please advise.
Thanks in advance.
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First of all, no need to use 10D tot file anymore. Download and install 20A kdz front autoprime located here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g5/development/stock-h830-20a-rom-flashable-zips-imgs-t3511294
Once that's installed, set up your system and then follow the following guide to get TWRP an root:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g5/development/root-h830-running-30a-nougat-t3524322
After you have TWRP and root download the flashable 20F zip and install from TWRP (make sure to delete recovery from boot.p file after installing and also flash root). Here's the link to 20F:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g5/development/stock-h830-20f-rom-flashable-zips-imgs-t3592855
If you follow all of that, you will be on stock 20F, rooted and with TWRP. After that, I recommend checking out the following custom kernel and installing that and using magisk instead of SuperSU. Kernel located here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g5/development/jan-17-2017-20c-deodexed-kernels-t3539611
Hopefully that helps, if you need more help just ask.

Thanks so much for taking the time to write me this great information. I have a question about the (make sure to delete recovery from boot.p file after installing and also flash root). ???????? Is this explained clearly somewhere? I don't know what I should do.

buyslake said:
Thanks so much for taking the time to write me this great information. I have a question about the (make sure to delete recovery from boot.p file after installing and also flash root). ???????? Is this explained clearly somewhere? I don't know what I should do.
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After flashing the 20F version from TWRP, it creates a recovery from boot.p file in the system directory. If you don't delete this file before rebooting, you will lose TWRP. So, after doing the recowvery method to get root and TWRP and then after you flash the 20F from TWRP, after it's done flashing go to main menu of TWRP, click on mount, check system, go back to main menu, click advanced, click file manager and go-to system directory and click on the recovery from boot.p file and then delete. Now you can reboot without losing TWRP. Then you can flash SuperSU or magisk for root

Your Device software cannot be checked for corruption. Lock the bootloader
Thanks for the fast responses. After many hours of studying the posts and I finally got my LG G5 running on H830_20F_DeOdexed rom withh Asgard version 4.5 kernal and rooted with SuperSU v2.74.
However I keep getting the "your device software cannot be checked for corruption. lock the bootloader message upon starting up. see attachment
Does everyone get that message? Or is there a way to remove it?
I thought the Asgard kernal said it got rid of that?

buyslake said:
Thanks for the fast responses. After many hours of studying the posts and I finally got my LG G5 running on H830_20F_DeOdexed rom withh Asgard version 4.5 kernal and rooted with SuperSU v2.74.
However I keep getting the "your device software cannot be checked for corruption. lock the bootloader message upon starting up. see attachment
Does everyone get that message? Or is there a way to remove it?
I thought the Asgard kernal said it got rid of that?
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You'll always have that message, no current way around it. Asgard kennel will allow you to pass safety net if you use magisk instead of SuperSU for root as it hides that the bootloader is unlocked from the system.

Where is Magisk?
jeffsga88 said:
You'll always have that message, no current way around it. Asgard kennel will allow you to pass safety net if you use magisk instead of SuperSU for root as it hides that the bootloader is unlocked from the system.
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Are you saying that boot up message will not be there if I switch to Magisk?
I tried to find magisk but I was unable to locate the install file and instructions on how to change from SuperSU to magisk. Do you know the link to it?

buyslake said:
Are you saying that boot up message will not be there if I switch to Magisk?
I tried to find magisk but I was unable to locate the install file and instructions on how to change from SuperSU to magisk. Do you know the link to it?
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No. I said currently there is no way to get rid of that message unless you lock the bootloader and you can't do that after modifying the system (i.e. installing TWRP and root). I said magisk will allow you to pass safety net. All that does is allow you to use apps that won't work with root / unlocked bootloader. If you don't use apps like Android pay or other apps that don't work when rooted, it really isn't necessary to switch from SuperSU to magisk. Anyways, if you're interested in magisk use Google (or XDA search) and search magisk XDA.

Latest way to root moto g3 2015 xt1550 OSPREY

Could anyone please point out a way to root my phone(in title), as of this day. There are many methods. So I am confused. I recently read about magisk manager, used to root. Does it work? I just wanted to know the latest method, easier one of any. Also can TWRP manager be used to flash recovery in phone or should it be done flashing TWRP. Img, file.
Please forgive me if i posted in wrong section.
Thanks in advance.

enusri said:
Could anyone please point out a way to root my phone(in title), as of this day. There are many methods. So I am confused. I recently read about magisk manager, used to root. Does it work? I just wanted to know the latest method, easier one of any. Also can TWRP manager be used to flash recovery in phone or should it be done flashing TWRP. Img, file.
Please forgive me if i posted in wrong section.
Thanks in advance.
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Use PC via ADB (fastboot)to flash TWRP. Flash Magisk in recovery, then dl Magisk manager from play store.
Magisk works very well.
This all is assuming your boot loader is unlocked.
Good luck.

melp57 said:
Use PC via ADB (fastboot)to flash TWRP. Flash Magisk in recovery, then dl Magisk manager from play store.
Magisk works very well.
This all is assuming your boot loader is unlocked.
Good luck.
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So instead of supersu, we use magisk?
And I read somewhere also that using magisk we can still get updates to our phones. Is that right?
Also there is a TWRP manager in play Store can we use it to flash TWRP instead of ADB?
Thanks for the steps though.

enusri said:
So instead of supersu, we use magisk?
And I read somewhere also that using magisk we can still get updates to our phones. Is that right?
Also there is a TWRP manager in play Store can we use it to flash TWRP instead of ADB?
Thanks for the steps though.
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My experience with TWRP manager has been it breaks my recovery. No idea why so I flashed via PC. Not sure you can still receive updates when your boot loader has been unlocked. Depends on a lot of factors. Someone​else will have to answer that question.

melp57 said:
My experience with TWRP manager has been it breaks my recovery. No idea why so I flashed via PC. Not sure you can still receive updates when your boot loader has been unlocked. Depends on a lot of factors. Someone​else will have to answer that question.
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OK thanks.

An unlocked bootloader doesn't prevent you from receiving updates from Motorola. But I think rooting the ROM will prevent installation of further updates.
I don't think Motorola is going to push any further updates. So just do anything you want with your phone (personal opinion).

bin.sayantan said:
An unlocked bootloader doesn't prevent you from receiving updates from Motorola. But I think rooting the ROM will prevent installation of further updates.
I don't think Motorola is going to push any further updates. So just do anything you want with your phone (personal opinion).
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I've never received a update notice.

I would have to agree... There is little chance of getting another update, and if we did it would just be a simple security update and not important.
And no, even with Magisk you cannot apply an OTA update, it will fail.

Unlock your bootloader, flash the twrp recovery using adb fastboot...then wipe the stock rom, flash custom rom along with SuperSU....enjoy! (Processes are same but you should use the latest versions of all these...)

https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/general/guide-osprey-moto-g3-begin-how-to-t3599251

Samsung Galaxy S8 unroot

Currently have an Rooted S8 which runs TWRP.. whats the best method for unrooting the device as I want OTA updates?

minalm said:
Currently have an Rooted S8 which runs TWRP.. whats the best method for unrooting the device as I want OTA updates?
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It depends on whether you're using SuperSU or Magisk.
To unroot if you have SuperSU, open SuperSU app, then open its app settings, find the setting that says something like "cleanup for unroot and uninstall". That will remove the su binaries and uninstall the SuperSU app.
To unroot if you have Magisk, use the Magisk uninstaller.zip(might cause bootloop which then requires flashing stock firmware via Odin)
Or you can just flash the stock firmware via Odin to remove root. You're going to have to get rid of TWRP also which would require you to flash a copy of stock recovery to replace TWRP. Flashing stock firmware via Odin will replace TWRP and remove root all in one shot, no need for extra steps or tricks.
Then you can do the OTA update.
OR
An even better option is as follows.
The OTA update might even be available to the public to download, if so, you can download the update manually(not via OTA) then flash the update via Odin, this will replace TWRP, remove root and update the device all in one shot. This way, you won't have to do anything except flash the update and you're done. No need to replace TWRP and unroot before doing the OTA update. This method skips all of that and gets you the update without having to do all the extra work. You'll have to root the device again and flash TWRP after the update has been applied.
If you choose to do the OTA instead, make sure you are completely unrooted and are back on stock recovery, you can't have root or TWRP when you do the OTA, it will not work that way.
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Droidriven said:
It depends on whether you're using SuperSU or Magisk.
To unroot if you have SuperSU, open SuperSU app, then open its app settings, find the setting that says something like "cleanup for unroot and uninstall". That will remove the su binaries and uninstall the SuperSU app.
To unroot if you have Magisk, use the Magisk uninstaller.zip(might cause bootloop which then requires flashing stock firmware via Odin)
Or you can just flash the stock firmware via Odin to remove root. You're going to have to get rid of TWRP also which would require you to flash a copy of stock recovery to replace TWRP. Flashing stock firmware via Odin will replace TWRP and remove root all in one shot, no need for extra steps or tricks.
Then you can do the OTA update.
OR
An even better option is as follows.
The OTA update might even be available to the public to download, if so, you can download the update manually(not via OTA) then flash the update via Odin, this will replace TWRP, remove root and update the device all in one shot. This way, you won't have to do anything except flash the update and you're done. No need to replace TWRP and unroot before doing the OTA update. This method skips all of that and gets you the update without having to do all the extra work. You'll have to root the device again and flash TWRP after the update has been applied.
If you choose to do the OTA instead, make sure you are completely unrooted and are back on stock recovery, you can't have root or TWRP when you do the OTA, it will not work that way.
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you have given a very detailed explanation and i fell like a simple thank you would be enough. you helped me out now and i feel somewhat obliged to thank you this way.
cheers

Is the things still the same... namely unrooting will not return KNOX and can not use Samsung warranty?

hi
i have a rotted phone s8..i flashed a stock rom, but phone is still rooted. Some apps like us google pay,mcdonalds tell me that phone is rooted..What i can do?

Removing Magisk root

Not sure if this is the correct forum but mods please move if needed.
Need to restore root on my HTC U11 Oreo for Pie update.
Guess this will be straighforward but for the life of me (getting old) I can't remember how to do this.
When I originally rooted I:
Unlocked the bootloader
Booted into recovery (did not flash it just booted e.g. fastboot boot twrp-3.2.3-0-ocn.img)
Backed it up
Flashed Magisk.
Do I simply unisntall Magisk or are there other steps to perform to get root back?

alangordon73 said:
Not sure if this is the correct forum but mods please move if needed.
Need to restore root on my HTC U11 Oreo for Pie update.
Guess this will be straighforward but for the life of me (getting old) I can't remember how to do this.
When I originally rooted I:
Unlocked the bootloader
Booted into recovery (did not flash it just booted e.g. fastboot boot twrp-3.2.3-0-ocn.img)
Backed it up
Flashed Magisk.
Do I simply unisntall Magisk or are there other steps to perform to get root back?[/QUOTE
Are u asking how to install twrp then magisk or are u asking how to uninstall magisk, if u uninstall magisk u loose root, I quess the best way to remove everything and start with a clean slate is to flash the appropriate ruu
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alangordon73 said:
Not sure if this is the correct forum but mods please move if needed.
Need to restore root on my HTC U11 Oreo for Pie update.
Guess this will be straighforward but for the life of me (getting old) I can't remember how to do this.
When I originally rooted I:
Unlocked the bootloader
Booted into recovery (did not flash it just booted e.g. fastboot boot twrp-3.2.3-0-ocn.img)
Backed it up
Flashed Magisk.
Do I simply unisntall Magisk or are there other steps to perform to get root back?
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Flash Magisk uninstaller and you remove Magisk completely, and therefore root... Simple search for "full unroot" should get you places, too...