[Q] Location determination problem - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I cannot have a location fix when i am in ''Battery saving mode'' in "Settings" "Location" and Cellular data is ON , Wi-Fi and GPS is turned off. If i turn on Wi-Fi my location can be determined and i have a fix.
It must be a problem with my phone, when i swap my simcard into my other phone a Samsung Galaxy Advance with Jelly Bean all functions are normal and having a location fix using cellular networks only.
Anyone having this issue also ?
I am on stock Rom 5.0 Lollipop rooted with cf-root.

Do a quick search of what battery savings mode is and you'll have your answer.

jayRokk said:
Do a quick search of what battery savings mode is and you'll have your answer.
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I am not sure what you mean exactly, i am trying to get a location fix without using GPS.
''Battery saving'' means "Use WI-Fi and cellular networks to determine location" and i am not getting a fix ever using this option when Wi-Fi and GPS is turned off.
When i try to get my location in Google Maps where i am at that moment it will only show my last accurate Wi-Fi location.

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GPS accuracy

when on wifi the location is 100% accurate on my infuse(google maps) but when on 4G it's way off. Is it just my set or is it a common problem, any help??
sounds like Google's location service giving inacurate results on cellular. try going into location and security and turn off "use wireless networks " this option doesn't actually use gps, it is a backup for gps. it can cause tracking problems if gps is weak because it will swap between the two so I keep it off.
junooni.1980 said:
when on wifi the location is 100% accurate on my infuse(google maps) but when on 4G it's way off. Is it just my set or is it a common problem, any help??
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That's not GPS accuracy, that's netloc accuracy. Netloc on wifi will almost always be significantly more accurate than cellular netloc.
The exception is when someone moves a wifi access point after the Street View truck drives by. Now if your phone sees that AP it'll think it is in the old location.
but how come it varies form phone, ive used moto atrix before infuse and its gps is probably the most accurate and fastest ive ever used..
junooni.1980 said:
but how come it varies form phone, ive used moto atrix before infuse and its gps is probably the most accurate and fastest ive ever used..
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it depends on the way the manufacturer sets things up and how you set it.
what you are experiencing is that you.have "use wireless networks" selected in settings>locaion and security. this is not using the gps chip. the samsung rom will always start with the google location based on network location which is based on your ip adress mostly. then atempt to get a gps lock after. but the infuse gps doesn't work good indoors so it may never lock. or it may timeout and start all over again.
the atrix you tried may have had "use wireless networks" disabled or the location service may have had a stronger preference for gps than network location. we know the atrix has better gps reception that the Samsung so it is more likely to get a true gps lock indoors.

Google Now and GPS

Good evening everyone.
This is a question that the 4 billion pages on google cant seem to find....
with google now, should I keep my standalone GPS, VZW location services and google location services?
I want to know because right now I have all 3 on, and my battery is suffering from it.
and this maybe a little off topic, but along the same lines;
I have a smart action "turn wifi off at school" and "turn wifi on at home" and it uses locations to determine where im at, what GPS service needs to be enabled for that to work properly, cause again I have all 3 services selected, and I wanna disable as many as i can to save power.
Anyone?
harecurtis said:
Good evening everyone.
This is a question that the 4 billion pages on google cant seem to find....
with google now, should I keep my standalone GPS, VZW location services and google location services?
I want to know because right now I have all 3 on, and my battery is suffering from it.
and this maybe a little off topic, but along the same lines;
I have a smart action "turn wifi off at school" and "turn wifi on at home" and it uses locations to determine where im at, what GPS service needs to be enabled for that to work properly, cause again I have all 3 services selected, and I wanna disable as many as i can to save power.
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If you only enable "Use wireless networks" and disable the other 2 you should be fine
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harecurtis said:
Good evening everyone.
with google now, should I keep my standalone GPS, VZW location services and google location services?
I want to know because right now I have all 3 on, and my battery is suffering from it.
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I leave Google and GPS on. I turn Verizon off.
I have no battery issues.
Are you sure it's the location services causing issues?
Check your battery stats and see.
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For me, no location or GPS even rate.

[Q] Can I get my location using Cell towers only

Can I get my location with Wifi OFF 3g/LTE off and GPS off using only cell towers or does it need internet to get the info, my father says his Iphone 5 with apple maps doesn't need internet to get his location but what does my father know is this even possible and if so how do I do it on my nexus 5.
fleen said:
Can I get my location with Wifi OFF 3g/LTE off and GPS off using only cell towers or does it need internet to get the info, my father says his Iphone 5 with apple maps doesn't need internet to get his location but what does my father know is this even possible and if so how do I do it on my nexus 5.
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Settings > Location
Click Mode
Select Battery Saving Mode
Disable Wifi and Mobile Data if you haven't already
Your approximate location will now be determined using cell tower triangulation. However, if you are trying to use Google Maps for example, you need to have previously made the area in which you are currently located available offline, or have it in your Google Maps cache. Otherwise it won't display anything of value to you without some sort of internet connection to download the map data.
You can also use Device mode which will use GPS to pinpoint your location. Same maps caveat applies as above, and obviously you need to be able to get GPS satellite locks (ie. outside or next to a window).
fleen said:
Can I get my location with Wifi OFF 3g/LTE off and GPS off using only cell towers or does it need internet to get the info, my father says his Iphone 5 with apple maps doesn't need internet to get his location but what does my father know is this even possible and if so how do I do it on my nexus 5.
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You don't need internet to locate yourself only GPS.
Apps like Tasker and Llama can use cell tower location without draining your battery and requires a network connection but not data.
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xda_fanboy said:
Settings > Location
Click Mode
Select Battery Saving Mode
Disable Wifi and Mobile Data if you haven't already
Your approximate location will now be determined using cell tower triangulation. However, if you are trying to use Google Maps for example, you need to have previously made the area in which you are currently located available offline, or have it in your Google Maps cache. Otherwise it won't display anything of value to you without some sort of internet connection to download the map data.
You can also use Device mode which will use GPS to pinpoint your location. Same maps caveat applies as above, and obviously you need to be able to get GPS satellite locks (ie. outside or next to a window).
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I can't seem to get it to work I have downloaded google maps to view offline and it just stays there saying "waiting for location..."
And did the part "Settings > Location
Click Mode
Select Battery Saving Mode
Disable Wifi and Mobile Data if you haven't already"
Pretty sure the only way for that to work is if you have "WiFi always scanning" turned on.
You can set your locations to Device Only and it will just use the GPS and nothing else.
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fleen said:
I can't seem to get it to work I have downloaded google maps to view offline and it just stays there saying "waiting for location..."
And did the part "Settings > Location
Click Mode
Select Battery Saving Mode
Disable Wifi and Mobile Data if you haven't already"
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You need GPS on at least. Thats what gives you your location. You can get a location based off of three things: Your mobile data, WiFi networks or GPS itself. You said you turned it all off so yeah, you arent going to get a location that way.
jsgraphicart said:
You need GPS on at least. Thats what gives you your location. You can get a location based off of three things: Your mobile data, WiFi networks or GPS itself. You said you turned it all off so yeah, you arent going to get a location that way.
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I can get my location with wifi and cell towers together. No GPS so I think its possible with Cell Tower Triangulation only in theory.
fleen said:
I can get my location with wifi and cell towers together. No GPS so I think its possible with Cell Tower Triangulation only in theory.
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Well just from looking at the settings, you can either use GPS, WiFi and mobile networks....WiFi and mobile networks....or GPS only. So I guess, take your pick.
What are you trying to get out of this anyway? Just use your phone for calls and maps and thats it?
jsgraphicart said:
Well just from looking at the settings, you can either use GPS, WiFi and mobile networks....WiFi and mobile networks....or GPS only. So I guess, take your pick.
What are you trying to get out of this anyway? Just use your phone for calls and maps and thats it?
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You know those fitness apps that track where you have been and stuff, well I want to use one but outdoors theres no wifi and GPS uses too much battery
fleen said:
You know those fitness apps that track where you have been and stuff, well I want to use one but outdoors theres no wifi and GPS uses too much battery
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If you want to save some battery on the GPS side put your phone in airplane mode. That will shut down all but GPS. I use mine all the time with an app called Backcountry Navigation Pro. They have a free version so you can check out most of the features that way. You can set it to record a track from every 5 seconds to 30 minutes. I set it to 5 minutes and have pretty good accuracy as far as where I've been and the GPS use is only on for that time. You should be able to do that with any good mapping app.
theesotericone said:
If you want to save some battery on the GPS side put your phone in airplane mode. That will shut down all but GPS. I use mine all the time with an app called Backcountry Navigation Pro. They have a free version so you can check out most of the features that way. You can set it to record a track from every 5 seconds to 30 minutes. I set it to 5 minutes and have pretty good accuracy as far as where I've been and the GPS use is only on for that time. You should be able to do that with any good mapping app.
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This is an option but if I can get the cell tower location working I would prefer it.
fleen said:
This is an option but if I can get the cell tower location working I would prefer it.
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Cell tower triangulation is not precise at all. It's only used to help your device catch GPS fix faster. If one would only use cell towers the accuracy would in most cases not got below 300-500m...
One cell tower can provide signal for a very large area. It can not be used for precise tracking as you need.
When I drive away from my house it can take over 5 minutes to leave the area of my 3 "home" cell towers.
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So its not what I want ok guys thanks how can I close this thread now?

GPS not working

Hey guys!
I have trying to get a location with my GPS (no wifi, data or whatever) and it never gets a signal.
I have been waiting with the phone outside around 5-6 min and nothing.
Any ideas?
Cheers!
(Android 4.4.2 stock - Franco Kernel - Custom recovery - Xposed)
nad4321 said:
Hey guys!
I have trying to get a location with my GPS (no wifi, data or whatever) and it never gets a signal.
I have been waiting with the phone outside around 5-6 min and nothing.
Any ideas?
Cheers!
(Android 4.4.2 stock - Franco Kernel - Custom recovery - Xposed)
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Settings/Location/ Mode = High Accuracy. Also turn on Google Location Reporting under Location Services and see if that helps. Without data you will need to save a map for offline use. I would install "GPS Status & Toolbox" from the Play Store and run that, it will also download updated GPS assistance data. The GPS Status app it will show how many satellites your device sees and how many of those it is locked on to. On my N5 google maps is sometimes not as accurate with Location Reporting off so I generally always leave location reporting on. I also leave the Location Mode in battery saving except when I need to use Maps or Nav.
wantabe said:
Settings/Location/ Mode = High Accuracy. Also turn on Google Location Reporting under Location Services and see if that helps. Without data you will need to save a map for offline use. I would install "GPS Status & Toolbox" from the Play Store and run that, it will also download updated GPS assistance data. The GPS Status app it will show how many satellites your device sees and how many of those it is locked on to. On my N5 google maps is sometimes not as accurate with Location Reporting off so I generally always leave location reporting on. I also leave the Location Mode in battery saving except when I need to use Maps or Nav.
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Already did that and still didnt get a location
First update to the latest 4.4.4 version..than use a different navigator like Sygic and see if it works
thunder_bolt96 said:
First update to the latest 4.4.4 version..than use a different navigator like Sygic and see if it works
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Same problem.. Im using GPS Test now to see if it gets a location and none

Any way to get data connection to auto on/off?

Still stock. Have wifi on/off in smart settings per location but I still need to manually turn data connection on/off which defeats the purpose of having smart wifi settings. Anyone know?
Root first for best result !
juntjoo said:
Still stock. Have wifi on/off in smart settings per location but I still need to manually turn data connection on/off which defeats the purpose of having smart wifi settings. Anyone know?
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This work nice on Android 4.4.2. and maybe 99% above. Work perfect with root, not sure without and new Android. Auto 3G for root type "Root LG G5 (HighONAndroid lgg5root.com)" . Work perfectly for me !
juntjoo said:
Still stock. Have wifi on/off in smart settings per location but I still need to manually turn data connection on/off which defeats the purpose of having smart wifi settings. Anyone know?
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use the app called - Llama location profiler. great app.
Thanks, although I don't like how it's constantly checking your position in the background even if you don't need it to.

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