OK. this is the situation.
I am a communications officer of my motorcycle club. I Send out text messages several times a week to more then 20 members. We have an issue with people replying to those messages. We have members working or doing things and there phones blow up when people respond to the messages i send out. We need that to stop. I am looking for a way to send out a mass text to all members from a spoofed number or where NOBODY can reply. If they have any questions they have to use there chain of command and text message someone separately. I know there are business that kinda do something like that from random numbers.
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As many of you know being on Verizon comes with some special privileges such as sending and receiving messages 1000 characters long, adding emoticons and animations, seeing when someone has read your message (the little box that changes from an arrow to a check). But unfortunately these features are absent on many smart-phones including the HTC Touch Pro 2. Perhaps some of you computer savvy people could develop a patch to utilize these advanced utilities that Verizon offers?
yeah but the thing is. you can only send one message 160 charater limit if ther person is not on verizon. with GSM (att/tmobile) yeah theres still a 160 limit but after it goes past that limit it creates a new message. and if i want one long txt with smileys i can just do it in a MMS message
so to get those featues like EMS (smileys in txt sounds)you just have to do it in pic message.
Actually, with verizon it will break up the message into multiple 160 character messages and send it all out. I have been able to send 600+ character messages and it breaks them up and is received individually, the only caveat is after the last message it also sends out a "preceding message modified, media items have been removed" (or something to that effect) message, which i find annoying as hell but at least it works. Might not on all vzw phones, but all smart/pda phones i have used it does this. Maybe its is something with the arcsoft messaging client but vzw is the only one i have seen that sends out the extra message at the end of the rest of them.
Sorry to dig up a old thread, just came by it while researching another issue.
I know this doesn't answer your question the way you want, but the real solution here is to use MMS or email, not SMS! Email can handle attachments and high character counts.
As noted above, these non-standard features only work if both the sender and receiver are on the same system. Anyone outside of Verizon isn't going to be able to see your smilies or whatever.
This is by design, and isn't a bug or programming shortfall. "SMS" stands for "Short Message Service." My belief is that if one can't convey what needs to be said within the character limit of a single text message, it's better to use email or voice.
Hello,
Just had a question. I sometimes receive "group mms" messages from friends with iphones who are on AT&T (i'm on verizon with a DX). It seems like the list of recipients isn't being sent along with the MMS. So it looks like a message that's directed at me, and not at a group of people. Also, this makes it difficult to respond to everyone that was on the original list for the message. Not to mention the fact that the individual replies from other people go into the list of text's between that person and I, and not into one viewable group conversation. I had this problem with an old feature-phone that i had as well, but just chalked that up to bad software. I've been searching here, on howardforums, and other places, but no one seems to know much about it. Has anyone else seen this, and is there anything that i can do about it?
Thanks in advance!
Hey djuniah,
I understand what you are saying. I have been having the same problem too. These are automated msg's sent out by the service providers.
I reckon, you contact your network provider and look into the processes. I did that when this problem was occurring and it was rectified.
Now, its no guarantee that you wont get another msg like it... but the network provider does his/her best to rectify it..
Hope this helps.
err, i don't think you understand what i mean. I'm talking about this scenario
Friend1 (with iphone on AT&T) -> Sends group mms to "Friend2, Friend3, and me"
Friend2 (with iphone on AT&T) -> Sees the message with all of the other people's names attached. When they reply, it goes to everyone in the group mms
me (droid x on verizon) -> I see the original message from friend1 in the same thread as all of my previous messages with friend1. When friend2 sent their reply, i see that message in the thread with all of my previous messages from friend2. When i want to reply, i have to reply to each of them individually, not as a group.
I called vzw and the operator there said he saw the same issue on his OG droid. I've assumed this was a network issue for a while now, but i was wondering if anyone had any solid info as to why it was happening and if there was anything we could do about it.
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This isn't network trickery, as far as I can see. It's Apple intelligently using the features built into MMS long ago to send a group message, have other iPhones handle that group message in a way that you can 'reply to all' like email.
Someone (Google, Go SMS, HandCent) needs to simply build the 'group' feature into their application so that it can properly see the recipients of the MMS as a Group and reply to all. If I go into the message details of one of these MMS messages on my Evo, I can see everyone that got the message... Now, the app just needs to look at that and do something with it.
It's very similar to Beluga... albeit not as functional.
Yeah, i had come to a similar conclusion once i started looking at the message details. If most of those texting apps can handle sending group messages, i don't see why they havent/cant build the ability to notice them coming in...
seems like a really simple and practical thing to have
Any luck with this issue>?
djuniah said:
Hello,
Just had a question. I sometimes receive "group mms" messages from friends with iphones who are on AT&T (i'm on verizon with a DX). It seems like the list of recipients isn't being sent along with the MMS. So it looks like a message that's directed at me, and not at a group of people. Also, this makes it difficult to respond to everyone that was on the original list for the message. Not to mention the fact that the individual replies from other people go into the list of text's between that person and I, and not into one viewable group conversation.
Has anyone else seen this, and is there anything that i can do about it?
Thanks in advance!
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Any luck with this issue? I noticed it works for BB users also. I have iPhone users, BB users, and EVO (Android) users on a Group MMS chat and it seems that only us Androids are not able to reply to the "Group". We can create a group on our end and batch text each user, but the messages are not received in their "group mms" screen, its on a direct individual one. Need to figure this one out so I can continue my "My phone is better than yours" war with my iPhone friends. Heheh.
bump this back up, i just got into this issue a few days ago, if i cant me sms agent to iphone in handcent would that do anything for me
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this is a growing problem for me, and for Android i fear...
of my closest 20 friends, 18 of us use Android, 1 blackberry, the rest iPhone... and the group SMS (really MMS) messages are common - PLUS - the one BB user can reply to all with their device. granted the BB reply looks like email the way it contains the whole message with headers in its reply, but still it can play the game.
i find it really surprising that simply threading the messages that come in to multiple recipients hasn't been addressed, and if i had the technical skill i would address it myself.
i am currently on an Atrix using Cyanogen's beta, and have an Inspire running the 7.1 RC.... i have tried both the native SMS/MMS apps, Handscent (though not recently) and love GOSMS Pro (though it seems to periodically send out duplicate texts for some reason).
i would love to find a way to thread my SMS/MMS messages with groups like the iPhone does so i can join these conversations instead of receiving any number of random replies from people and having to piece together the conversation. ANY help with this would be appreciated.
installing the vzw messenger app DID "solve" the problem for me. I prefer to use GOSMS Pro, but when i get a group message, i reply to it with the verizon one. However, now i get double the notifications from GOSMS. For some reason, it's pop-up thinks i got 2 messages instead of one (with the same content). This is far from ideal, but it does work.
what about outside of VZW?
i wish there was an app i could get my hands on like your VZW app, maybe its not perfect, but it gets you through the issue until something better comes along. being on the Atrix and the Inspire i'm with AT&T coming off an iPhone, and periodically having to go back if there's reason for me to play a role in some happening which is causing an unusually high number of group texts.
from what i can tell, Handscent and GOSMS Pro are really the only contenders in the platform-wide SMS/MMS alternatives, I'm surprised they've spent so much time focused on making their themes pretty instead of addressing this well documented but unaddressed issue.
has anyone else found other alternatives?
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I've been looking for this for a year. Today an iPhone user asked me why is that we cannot reply to group messages. She's anoyed because she have to forward all the messages received from Androids to the rest of the group...
Hello. I need some help with group texting on the G2x. You see all my friends friends have iPhones when the receive a group text then they can respond to the whole group.
Let's say person A texts person B, on person B's iphone he sees a text message from person A in his conversation list. Now lets say after that person A texts person B again along with person C,D,E, and F as well. Now on person B's iphone is a new thread listing person A,C,D,E separate from the original thread between A and B. Also, if person B replies to person A in the group thread then everyone else in that thread also receives the reply. It is sort of like a group conference call but for text messages.
Now when I receive a group text message from someone, I only see the original sender of the message not the other recipients nor can I reply to everyone in the group. My messages only go to the Original sender.
Is there a way to allow my phone to do this?
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Hello. I need some help with group texting on the G2x. You see all my friends friends have iPhones when the receive a group text then they can respond to the whole group.
Let's say person A texts person B, on person B's iphone he sees a text message from person A in his conversation list. Now lets say after that person A texts person B again along with person C,D,E, and F as well. Now on person B's iphone is a new thread listing person A,C,D,E separate from the original thread between A and B. Also, if person B replies to person A in the group thread then everyone else in that thread also receives the reply. It is sort of like a group conference call but for text messages.
Now when I receive a group text message from someone, I only see the original sender of the message not the other recipients nor can I reply to everyone in the group. My messages only go to the Original sender.
Is there a way to allow my phone to do this?
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Have you tried 3rd party SMS apps like GO SMS Pro?
MIUI has something like this. When you text a group of people at once, it keeps everything in 1 thread. I don't know if your phone will send out multiple texts to everyone.
See on the iPhone it isn't really text messages... (I don't think). Once you send a group text, it converts it to a data IM. It still shows up in the Messaging program, but it isn't SMS.
To do something like this strickly with SMS, you'd be sending out 5-6 messages at a time every time you sent a comment. If EVERYONE's phone sent a reply SMS to EVERYONE, it would work. But I think the iPhones convert it over to data.
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MIUI has something like this. When you text a group of people at once, it keeps everything in 1 thread. I don't know if your phone will send out multiple texts to everyone.
See on the iPhone it isn't really text messages... (I don't think). Once you send a group text, it converts it to a data IM. It still shows up in the Messaging program, but it isn't SMS.
To do something like this strickly with SMS, you'd be sending out 5-6 messages at a time every time you sent a comment. If EVERYONE's phone sent a reply SMS to EVERYONE, it would work. But I think the iPhones convert it over to data.
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That's exactly what it is. It's iMessage. It only works between iPhones. Guaranteed if the other person does a group text to C,D,E,F, B will see all the group members because A sent B the message using an iPhone and B had an iPhone, but let's say that C doesn't have an iPhone, they won't know it was a group text.
Annoying, but meh.
Is there any way I can get group mms/sms on any ROM?
I am getting messages from people I have no clue who they are talking about things I have no idea.
Thanks.
Are you wanting to send them?
I have noticed I sometimes get random messages from people who use an iphone and use the group text. Annoying as hell.
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Are you wanting to send them?
I have noticed I sometimes get random messages from people who use an iphone and use the group text. Annoying as hell.
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no, i want them to be grouped together.
some of the aokp roms have it enabled but if you are stock, download sms pro free from the market. That app has group msgs enabled.
The way I see this debacle...
Whenever some dude/dudette sends a message to multiple people where I am one of those people...
I get ALL of the replies to the original message
I guess it's like a thread on a forum where the original message is the OP and all replies are sent to everyone who the ORIGINAL MESSAGE was sent.
SUBSEQUENTLY: whenever anyone replies, I get a "who is this" message... It's sort of like that "REPLYALLCALYPSE" that happened at NYU HAHA.
Will everybody please, JUST SHUT THE FART UP?
Hi there, I am currently having a bit of an urgent dilemma.
Basically, I'm wanting to send messages to a group of people, however every time I get this message propping up that there is a large number of messages.
Additionally, how on earth are you even meant to send group messages to people that you have grouped under the same group in contacts??? I'm lost with this new GUI.
Someone PLEASE save me.