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Recommendations for an External Battery Charger?

Can anyone recommend a high quality external battery charger for the S4? I'm familiar with Samsung's version - however, it only supports 700 mA, so it will take forever to charge a battery.
Are there any high quality external battery chargers that support 2A charging? Obviously, quality protection circuits are a must.
Clarification: I'm not looking for an external battery pack. I'm looking for a charger that will charge a spare OEM S4 battery.

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I added a clarification above. I'm not looking for an external battery pack. I'm looking for a charger that will charge a spare OEM S4 battery.

I see sorry misread. Not sure about external extra battery chargers
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Haphim said:
Can anyone recommend a high quality external battery charger for the S4? I'm familiar with Samsung's version - however, it only supports 700 mA, so it will take forever to charge a battery.
Are there any high quality external battery chargers that support 2A charging? Obviously, quality protection circuits are a must.
Clarification: I'm not looking for an external battery pack. I'm looking for a charger that will charge a spare OEM S4 battery.
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I believe that's incorrect regardling the output of the charger. I'll have to take a picture of it, but it's definitely higher than 700 ma.
My samsung has two output ma, one is 1.7 amps. The other is 450 ma.

Haphim said:
Can anyone recommend a high quality external battery charger for the S4? I'm familiar with Samsung's version - however, it only supports 700 mA, so it will take forever to charge a battery.
Are there any high quality external battery chargers that support 2A charging? Obviously, quality protection circuits are a must.
Clarification: I'm not looking for an external battery pack. I'm looking for a charger that will charge a spare OEM S4 battery.
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Just bought the samsung oem !!!
1.7A output not 700mAh ... its 1700mAh/1.7A
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anuj6111 said:
Just bought the samsung oem !!!
1.7A output not 700mAh ... its 1700mAh/1.7A
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Aha! So their website lists the wrong specs. In this case, that's good. Thank you so much for posting this!

Haphim said:
Aha! So their website lists the wrong specs. In this case, that's good. Thank you so much for posting this!
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No problem !! :good::good:
the "Thanks" button is right there ....

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No problem !! :good::good:
the "Thanks" button is right there ....
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The reason website lists it as 700mA is due to the charger it comes with it is a 700mA charger.
I mean probably if you connect this to your 2A Samsung charger it will charge at 1.7mA, however if you connect it to the charger comes inside the box, it can only do 700mA at most.

fincan said:
The reason website lists it as 700mA is due to the charger it comes with it is a 700mA charger.
I mean probably if you connect this to your 2A Samsung charger it will charge at 1.7mA, however if you connect it to the charger comes inside the box, it can only do 700mA at most.
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Ah, that makes sense. What is the current rating of the default charger that comes with the S4? (mine is en route)

fincan said:
The reason website lists it as 700mA is due to the charger it comes with it is a 700mA charger.
I mean probably if you connect this to your 2A Samsung charger it will charge at 1.7mA, however if you connect it to the charger comes inside the box, it can only do 700mA at most.
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Nope the official website does not list that a charger is sent within the package...
i recieved mine without a charger .... but it was a single pack not like the fake battery n charger in different packs....
there is no charger with it just using the s4 charger output 2.0A - with this charger output 1.7A....
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/...es/smartphone-accessories/EB-K600BEWEGWW-spec
The tech specs on the website state 1.7A.....

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http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/...es/smartphone-accessories/EB-K600BEWEGWW-spec
The tech specs on the website state 1.7A.....
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Hmm. I wonder if the UK version is different. Because here are the US specifications:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EB-K600BUWESTA-specs
And as you can see, it lists 700 mA. (Technically, it lists 700 mAh, so I guess if there's one mistake, there could be a second...)

Haphim said:
Hmm. I wonder if the UK version is different. Because here are the US specifications:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EB-K600BUWESTA-specs
And as you can see, it lists 700 mA. (Technically, it lists 700 mAh, so I guess if there's one mistake, there could be a second...)
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samsung gone bonkers !!!! :laugh::laugh:

[Q] Charger. How powerful it needs to be?

So, what specs should the charger have to be in the safe zone?
Thanks

legend474 said:
So, what specs should the charger have to be in the safe zone?
Thanks
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The phone will only draw the current it needs, so any 5v charger will do.

legend474 said:
So, what specs should the charger have to be in the safe zone?
Thanks
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Here's a picture a took from the charger that comes with the Brazilian dual chip variant.
It's the official Moto G charger, but I guess it only comes with the Brazilian version.
So, your answear would 5,1V or 850mah
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COol. Thanks for the replies.

ghtop said:
The phone will only draw the current it needs, so any 5v charger will do.
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Not quite. It can't draw the current it needs if the charger is rated lower than what it needs. A 5v 500mA (0.5A) charger will take far too long to charge this phone or even not charge it at all if the phone is being used while connected to the charger.

Aleemz said:
Not quite. It can't draw the current it needs if the charger is rated lower than what it needs. A 5v 500mA (0.5A) charger will take far too long to charge this phone or even not charge it at all if the phone is being used while connected to the charger.
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Ye, this is the reason I actually asked, since I wanted to know what's the minimum mA.
Luckily, i recently found a white usb wall adapter and just checked and it is 1000mA(1A) so all good hehe :highfive:

According to Motorola Support anything between 500mA - 1.5A should be fine and higher values will be limited to 1.5A. I cant post links yet, but info was found on MotorolaSupport twitter.

I have been cross using my Nexus 7 (2012) and Samsung S4 with each other's charger all the time in the past, it didn't do any harm. Now I am using Nexus 7 charger to charge moto g

Aleemz said:
Not quite. It can't draw the current it needs if the charger is rated lower than what it needs. A 5v 500mA (0.5A) charger will take far too long to charge this phone or even not charge it at all if the phone is being used while connected to the charger.
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Not sure about this, but tried Alcatel charger (5V/400mA) and it took extra 50 min compare to HTC charger (5V/1000mA{1A})...

legend474 said:
So, what specs should the charger have to be in the safe zone?
Thanks
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Any Motorola charger with the correct micro-USB tip will charge your Moto G. You will see the best results when the output of the charger is between 500 mA and 1.5 A. The higher the output, the faster your Moto G will charge.
If your charger output is higher, the MOTO G will automatically restrict the charging rate. If your charger is lower, it will simply take longer to reach a full charge.
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^ Taken from Motorola Support Page:
h t t p s://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/97318/p/30,6720,9050

Can we use apple ipad wall charger?

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legend474 said:
So, what specs should the charger have to be in the safe zone?
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According to Motorola, the Moto G will automatically restrict the charging rate to a maximum of 1500mA. Therefore, 2A chargers should only charge at 1500mA. This is within the allowable range listed on the Motorola support site for the Moto G. So, no direct damage to the phone circuitry or immediate damage to the battery should occur by using a higher amperage, faster 2A charger.
But, the latest official Motorola charger on the U.S. website is only 1200mA. Using a 2A charger to charge at the 1500mA maximum allowable rate may cause more long-term reduction in battery capacity than using the lower charging rate of 1200mA. See this other XDA post for my logic in coming to this conclusion ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2564158 ).
UPDATE and CORRECTION:
I have more authoritative information directly from Battery University that changes the conclusion I draw above based on my effort to extrapolate from the Battery University website article.
The extrapolation I did in the post listed above was based on the additional loss of long-term battery capacity cited when going from a 1C to 2C charging rate. But according to direct communication from Battery University, when charging at a rate below .7C there should be no measurable improvement to long-term capacity by using slower charging rates. Charging above .7C would still be expected to add more stress to Lithium Ion Polymer batteries and likely add to long-term reduction of capacity.
So, what this means for the Moto G and Nexus 5 is that there should be no measurable difference between charging with 2A, 1.2A, 1A, or 850mA chargers as far as effect on long-term battery capacity goes. Both the Moto G and Nexus 5 are supposed to automatically restrict the charge rate at 1500mA even when using a faster charger, which is just at or below .7C for both phones. So, as long as the charger dependably keeps to 5V, a higher amperage 2A charger will be faster but pose no problem to long-term capacity.
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Using the 850mA charger referenced above as shipping in Brazil should be fine to charge with in about 2-3 hours. The only issue is that the phone would need to be turned off during charging in order to not take too long -- which is a good practice anyway.

The original charger that came with my phone has: 550 mA.

Ok to leave a phone on charger overnight
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The original charger that came with my phone has: 550 mA.
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550 mA charger is fine for Moto G, it will just take longer (like 3-4 hours). If your charging over night than it's not an issue. Just plug it in and leave it on over night. The Moto G will automatically stop charging when it is complete. Only advice I've seen, is that it is not good to leave a phone on the charger for long periods (e.g. over 24 hours).

MotoG said:
Can we use apple ipad wall charger?
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Yes. I have an iPad charger and I use it with my Moto G. I haven't tested how long it lasts exactly, but it's very quick, as expected.

Fake and real lg charger.

Hello i bought a lg charger for my lg v30. The seller said that it is real charger. But after a month, the adaptor stopped working IDK what happened to adaptor and charging cable too. Now i want to buy a new original charger for my v30 and can someone tell me how to spot the difference between fake and real charger and cable?i would really appreciate it.

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Hello i bought a lg charger for my lg v30. The seller said that it is real charger. But after a month, the adaptor stopped working IDK what happened to adaptor and charging cable too. Now i want to buy a new original charger for my v30 and can someone tell me how to spot the difference between fake and real charger and cable?i would really appreciate it.
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It sounds like you're **assuming** because it failed, it must not be original?
I'm not so sure that's a safe assumption. Nonetheless, I'd avoid the oem charger (I have multiple of them) as they get pretty warm, as does the phone, when charging.
Go with something that is highly rated and certified for Quick Charge 3. The Anker I bought charges faster and stays cooler than oem chargers do. There are various QC3 mfg to choose from, get one with high ratings and u should be all set.
This is the one I got, it works fine: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077HFFLMS/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

AsItLies said:
It sounds like you're **assuming** because it failed, it must not be original?
I'm not so sure that's a safe assumption. Nonetheless, I'd avoid the oem charger (I have multiple of them) as they get pretty warm, as does the phone, when charging.
Go with something that is highly rated and certified for Quick Charge 3. The Anker I bought charges faster and stays cooler than oem chargers do. There are various QC3 mfg to choose from, get one with high ratings and u should be all set.
This is the one I got, it works fine: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077HFFLMS/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
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Right. You don't need "LG" charger, you need good QuickCharge 3.0 charger. There are many available, but Anker is trusted name brand.

ChazzMatt said:
Right. You don't need "LG" charger, you need good QuickCharge 3.0 charger. There are many available, but Anker is trusted name brand.
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Ok thanks ?

FYI, the V30 is also USB PD compatible. It will quick charge with type C laptop chargers as well as Pixel and Essential phone chargers.
Edit- Nekteck brand makes IF certified chargers, it is available from Amazon and I have a car and wall charger that have both served me well.

Agreed, Anker is a great brand. Aukey is another good one - their cables are terrible (at least for USB micro, in my experience). Still, these are two great ways to go without wasting money on the LG (or any other brand's) rebadging.

I always use Blitzwolf. They have some great chargers / cables.
I also bought an Aukey one and it seems solid.

Just to put in my opinion, I like Blackweb products.
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Luckily certified QuickCharge 3.0 charges are inexpensive. You can get a 3-pack for like $12 with free shipping.
3-Pack CERTIFIED Quick Charge 3.0 USB Wall Charger Adapter,18W
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Luckily certified QuickCharge 3.0 charges are inexpensive. You can get a 3-pack for like $12 with free shipping.
3-Pack CERTIFIED Quick Charge 3.0 USB Wall Charger Adapter,18W
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Got them. Works well. See pictures here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79646287&postcount=5

ChazzMatt said:
Got them. Works well. See pictures here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79646287&postcount=5
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Can one plus 6t's dash charger charge fast with v30?

trouble. said:
Can one plus 6t's dash charger charge fast with v30?
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No. You need Qualcomm certified QuickCharge for fast charge. OnePlus won't license that.

ChazzMatt said:
No. You need Qualcomm certified QuickCharge for fast charge. OnePlus won't license that.
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Off topic, but are you staying with LG for 5 more years? If so I need you to give a heads up on every unlocked V series device with fastboot commands.
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Question Charging speeds low?

Hey hey,
With the battery at 12%, I can only get to 17W-ish with the 30W google charger that comes with the Pixel Stand 2. What gives? I thought it was at least 23W?
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I barely got 18.6W with an external battery.
I've tried a OnePlus 8 Pro charger and a Thunderbolt 3 and both only managed to charge with 6W.
Something's definitely broken.

Adaptive charging?

mushtafa said:
Adaptive charging?
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not during the day (this was this morning)

z3nith66 said:
I barely got 18.6W with an external battery.
I've tried a OnePlus 8 Pro charger and a Thunderbolt 3 and both only managed to charge with 6W.
Something's definitely broken.
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You need a Power Delivery 3.0 brick with PPS to get full speed. But....I have that, and using many cables including the Google cable and I still haven't cracked 18w.

You need a Power Delivery 3.0 brick with PPS to get full speed. But....I have that, and using many cables including the Google cable and I still haven't cracked 18w.
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the google charger that I have does just that no?
30W USB-C Power Adapter
The adapter delivers up to 66% more power to USB-C devices than the previous-generation 18W USB‑C charger.
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ppaasseeii said:
the google charger that I have does just that no?
30W USB-C Power Adapter
The adapter delivers up to 66% more power to USB-C devices than the previous-generation 18W USB‑C charger.
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Yes it should do exactly that.

xgerryx said:
Yes it should do exactly that.
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But it's not. Wth, google?

Anker PD/PPS 65W charger with ANY cable.

ekin_strops said:
Anker PD/PPS 65W charger with ANY cable.
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Seems like you are rooted with Franco's...? I'm too old for that s***

ppaasseeii said:
Seems like you are rooted with Franco's...? I'm too old for that s***
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I wouldn't even believe that, the chip isn't even rated for anything over 23 watts.

xgerryx said:
I wouldn't even believe that, the chip isn't even rated for anything over 23 watts.
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You're right, it's rated at "23W".
I swear some people are just ignorant on purpose.

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You're right, it's rated at "23W". View attachment 5741367
I swear some people are just ignorant on purpose.
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there is a difference between "at 30W" and "with Google 30W charger"... there are tons of articles on the web showing that the 30W is never reached.

ppaasseeii said:
there is a difference between "at 30W" and "with Google 30W charger"... there are tons of articles on the web showing that the 30W is never reached.
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The point I'm making is based on other people's comparisons here with different chargers and cables. I'm not arguing about Google 30 W charger.
But the person above is stating it's "impossible" because the chip is limited to "23w" which is completely incorrect since the fast charging supports up to 30W. But alright. lol

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The point I'm making is based on other people's comparisons here with different chargers and cables. I'm not arguing about Google 30 W charger.
But the person above is stating it's "impossible" because the chip is limited to "23w" which is completely incorrect since the fast charging supports up to 30W. But alright. lol
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The charger supports up to 30W, not the Pixel, the Pixel maxes out at 23W

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Anker PD/PPS 65W charger with ANY cable.
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A 36W charge wouldnt take over an hour to fully charge a battery at 46%

So get 30W google charger or any USB-PD 3.0 (PPS)

K1nsey6 said:
A 36W charge wouldnt take over an hour to fully charge a battery at 46%
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Because the screenshot was taken right when the charger was connected and the time wasn't calculated straight away. It takes 1-2 mins to provide accurate information on the charging time based on an average charging speed.

@ppaasseeii
In nearly every case, you can`t read the correct charging speeds by Software.
You need a good USB Powermeter or a power measure device on the wall.

Alright, best I can do with the Google 30W charger: 19W (Accubattery) or almost 21W with the meter. Still 2W are missing but I guess I can live with that.

Question How fast is fast charging?

Hello!
Got a third party charger that's 30W, and has good reviews on Google. However, even though on lock screen it says it's charging rapidly, I'm getting less than 9W/2A.
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Adaptive charging is on.
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krakout said:
Hello!
Got a third party charger that's 30W, and has good reviews on Google. However, even though on lock screen it says it's charging rapidly, I'm getting less than 9W/2A. View attachment 5802147
Adaptive charging is on.
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Check with an hardware meter
Wouldn't trust software reading

Damn I don't have a USB c meter at hand...
Let me put it another way, how long does it take for a 0-100 more or less, normally?

krakout said:
Damn I don't have a USB c meter at hand...
Let me put it another way, how long does it take for a 0-100 more or less, normally?
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Long.

jericho246 said:
Long.
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Well, I mean, I know it's not the Warp charging I had with my OnePlus, but...

0-50% in 30 minutes with a USB-C PD charger (I use my OnePlus 9 charger), 50-100% will take another hour and 25 minutes give or take.

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0-50% in 30 minutes with a USB-C PD charger (I use my OnePlus 9 charger), 50-100% will take another hour and 25 minutes give or take.
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Similar to my times, I think. Interestingly, when on my car charger it maxed out at 15W instead of 9.
Also tried my OP8 charger, no fast charge there.

krakout said:
Similar to my times, I think. Interestingly, when on my car charger it maxed out at 15W instead of 9.
Also tried my OP8 charger, no fast charge there.
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A USB-C PD PPS charger like my OnePlus 9 and Anker chargers should be able to get around 23W peak but that drops quickly as the battery starts to charge so you're more likely to see that number with a lower charge.
It also massively fluctuates if the phone is doing anything in the background.

Yeah obviously, net charge is lower the higher the usage.
I don't care going to 23W, but 9W (if true) is pathetic! Time to look for an Anker charger, thanks for the suggestion!

krakout said:
Yeah obviously, net charge is lower the higher the usage.
I don't care going to 23W, but 9W (if true) is pathetic! Time to look for an Anker charger, thanks for the suggestion!
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This one should be perfect.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-Foldable-iPhone-Included/dp/B0B2MLRF93/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1TFCKVJ1X09VC&keywords=anker%2Bpps&qid=1672956888&sprefix=anker%2Bpps%2Caps%2C123&sr=8-3&th=1
I have an older Anker that works fine.

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This one should be perfect.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-Foldable-iPhone-Included/dp/B0B2MLRF93/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1TFCKVJ1X09VC&keywords=anker%2Bpps&qid=1672956888&sprefix=anker%2Bpps%2Caps%2C123&sr=8-3&th=1
I have an older Anker that works fine.
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Thanks, is this the one?
Asking because depending on where I open your link it takes me to different results! (Also com, UK and de show me different stuff).
Thanks for the suggestion!

krakout said:
Thanks, is this the one?
Asking because depending on where I open your link it takes me to different results! (Also com, UK and de show me different stuff).
Thanks for the suggestion!
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Yep that looks like the one.

EtherealRemnant said:
Yep that looks like the one.
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Cool, ordering!

krakout said:
Hello!
Got a third party charger that's 30W, and has good reviews on Google. However, even though on lock screen it says it's charging rapidly, I'm getting less than 9W/2A. View attachment 5802147
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This might help to explain it
You still really don't need that Google Pixel 7 30W fast charger
Pixel 7 charging tests reveal very little benefit to buying Google's 30W USB PD PPS charger versus using an older plug.
www.androidauthority.com

MrBelter said:
This might help to explain it
You still really don't need that Google Pixel 7 30W fast charger
Pixel 7 charging tests reveal very little benefit to buying Google's 30W USB PD PPS charger versus using an older plug.
www.androidauthority.com
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Cheers, great article. Got a charger for my wife's P6 too.
I suppose they're doing it for battery health reasons, wonder if anyone releases a switch for real fast charging...

I use a 30w Anker PowerPort Atom 3, and it charges from ~20% when the battery warning comes on to 100% full in around 90 minutes. Was $20 on Amazon. https://a.co/d/2FRLgos Anything rated for power delivery (PD) for android or power IQ (PIQ) for iphone ~25w/+ should charge it at max speed/power, according to all the reviews I've seen, despite Google claiming it requires 30w....although the one I linked is 30w anyway. The video directly above is actually the first review I saw staking that claim while doing my research.

Thanks. I've ordered the one from the link above and am waiting for delivery, we'll see how it goes!