Ordered nexus player and gamepad first day on playstore. Just received shipping confirmation with tracking info.
I paid for overnight shipping so I am expecting shipment November 6th, 2014.
Anyone else got their shipping info?
You don't happen to use plex do you OP?
Yes mine will be here Friday. And for the guy above, I use Plex. Want something tested?
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sublimnl said:
Yes mine will be here Friday. And for the guy above, I use Plex. Want something tested?
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Good ol' XBMC ? I'm interested to see how the x86 build (Kodi Beta 1) runs incl. support for bitstreaming HD audio over HDMI
and how far you can push H.264 1080p decoding (> 20 Mbps ??).
I'm still a bit sceptical about x86 Android with the push from Intel.
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Good ol' XBMC ? I'm interested to see how the x86 build (Kodi Beta 1) runs incl. support for bitstreaming HD audio over HDMI
and how far you can push H.264 1080p decoding (> 20 Mbps ??).
I'm still a bit sceptical about x86 Android with the push from Intel.
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XBMC is on my list to get up and running anyway so I'll definitely test it.
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controllers will be here today. i ordered two players but no ship date yet for those.
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Yes mine will be here Friday. And for the guy above, I use Plex. Want something tested?
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If you could check what it can direct stream that'd be great.
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If you could check what it can direct stream that'd be great.
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+1
Also be sure to max out the quality settings in Plex. By default, and after every updated they change back to low setting that makes most stuff transcode rather than direct stream.
Also let us and Plex know if you get any pauses while playing content, or if it gets stuck on the last frame of direct streaming content like it does on the ADT-1... I been trying to get Plex dev's to acknowledge this for ages.
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Yes mine will be here Friday. And for the guy above, I use Plex. Want something tested?
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I'd love to know what codecs/containers both the integral atom can decode using MX player, etc as well as what XBMC/kodi can deal with on a mapped network drive with streamed native content (mkv, mp4, m4v, avi, x264, xvid, mpeg, ac3, aac, dts, mp3, etc). Thanks for offering to test!
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Also let us and Plex know if it gets stuck on the last frame of direct streaming content like it does on the ADT-1... I been trying to get Plex dev's to acknowledge this for ages.
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Not sure what you mean here. Can you explain?
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Not sure what you mean here. Can you explain?
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Well for me and a few others who have ADT-1's and post on the Plex forums. We've been having an issue where on the last frame of a movie/tv show it will stop/pause on that frame, rather than gracefully return to the previous screen. But it only happens when content is direct streaming the video and transcoding the audio. Most likely all audio will be transcoded because if it has better than stereo sound, it will be transcoded to stereo, since that is all android built in media player (exoplayer) will output for non-google apps (they are supposedly working on adding AC3 passthrough).
As for the other comment about pauses, since the last plex release movies just seem to randomly pause requiring a fastforward/rewind/ or stop/play to get going again... not sure the conditions that this occurs for (transcoding, direct stream, ect).
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... Most likely all audio will be transcoded because if it has better than stereo sound, it will be transcoded to stereo, since that is all android built in media player (exoplayer) will output for non-google apps (they are supposedly working on adding AC3 passthrough). ...
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Good lord, I didn't know that was an issue. It'd be an extremely poor livingroom media box if all networked streamed media was stereo only! The chromecast was recently updated with AC3 passthrough (finally) and has always supported AAC 5.1 via LPCM, but the chromecast still has no DTS passthrough just yet.
If Android has the same limitations as ChromeOS this will be a terrible media box indeed.
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Good lord, I didn't know that was an issue. It'd be an extremely poor livingroom media box if all networked streamed media was stereo only! The chromecast was recently updated with AC3 passthrough (finally) and has always supported AAC 5.1 via LPCM, but the chromecast still has no DTS passthrough just yet.
If Android has the same limitations as ChromeOS this will be a terrible media box indeed.
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Yeah, it sucks. But at least I got a Google engineer to comment on G+. He said they are working on adding it. Alternatives are virtual surround sound on your receiver, or using a different media player (MX, XBMC, ect), since it's just software related.
I dunno why they don't just add options to passthrough all audio... do they need licenses to passthrough audio? If so they seems pretty stupid. How does XBMC get by with passthrough.... I'm sure they don't pay for licenses.
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Yeah, it sucks. But at least I got a Google engineer to comment on G+. He said they are working on adding it. Alternatives are virtual surround sound on your receiver, or using a different media player (MX, XBMC, ect), since it's just software related.
I dunno why they don't just add options to passthrough all audio... do they need licenses to passthrough audio? If so they seems pretty stupid. How does XBMC get by with passthrough.... I'm sure they don't pay for licenses.
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A license is indeed technically required to passthrough (which, as you state, is really stupid), however Roku somehow squeaked around that issue to support passthrough... they wouldn't detail how in their forums but did confirm that they did NOT get a license. Unfortunately the Roku isn't the best media box either as they don't internally transcode AAC 5.1 to LPCM, only downmix to stereo.
I would think a box as powerful as the Nexus Player would impliment internal transcoding of all 5.1 formats to LPCM 5.1 as the PS3 does, or give the option to passthrough. Heck, even my $79 blu-ray player from Sony transcodes AAC 5.1 to LPCM 5.1 and directly passes through AC3 and DTS. Google isn't a tiny op (like Roku)... this situation on Android, if it does exist on the Nexus Player, needs to be addressed ASAP.
I'm also very interested in which codecs are supported with plex. My Samsung tv does a tremendous job in playing more or less everything direct play. Chromecast on the other hand only do x264 (preferably in mp4 container). I have remuxed several of my dvds to mkv and kept the MPEG 2 video and ac3/DTS streams. Good for archiving. I wonder if Nexus player can handle at least MPEG 2. Ac3 seems to be under development for passthrough.
I also really hope they have not included cinavia protection!
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A license is indeed technically required to passthrough (which, as you state, is really stupid), however Roku somehow squeaked around that issue to support passthrough... they wouldn't detail how in their forums but did confirm that they did NOT get a license. Unfortunately the Roku isn't the best media box either as they don't internally transcode AAC 5.1 to LPCM, only downmix to stereo.
I would think a box as powerful as the Nexus Player would impliment internal transcoding of all 5.1 formats to LPCM 5.1 as the PS3 does, or give the option to passthrough. Heck, even my $79 blu-ray player from Sony transcodes AAC 5.1 to LPCM 5.1 and directly passes through AC3 and DTS. Google isn't a tiny op (like Roku)... this situation on Android, if it does exist on the Nexus Player, needs to be addressed ASAP.
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The ADT-1 can decode 5.1, and output multichannel PCM, but only for select google apps; like Play Movies, ect.
When you think about it, HDMI cables should require a license to transfer AC3 and DTS from point A to B....lol I don't see how passthrough audio w/o decoding or touching it is any different.
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I'm also very interested in which codecs are supported with plex. My Samsung tv does a tremendous job in playing more or less everything direct play. Chromecast on the other hand only do x264 (preferably in mp4 container). I have remuxed several of my dvds to mkv and kept the MPEG 2 video and ac3/DTS streams. Good for archiving. I wonder if Nexus player can handle at least MPEG 2. Ac3 seems to be under development for passthrough.
I also really hope they have not included cinavia protection!
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Plex uses what ever media player is built in to said device. For Android, it's exoplayer. On your Samsung TV (and my own), it's Samsung's media player and their APIs that Plex use.
I know it uses internal player like exoplayer, but which codecs are supported with exoplayer on nexus player?
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Luxferro said:
The ADT-1 can decode 5.1, and output multichannel PCM, but only for select google apps; like Play Movies, ect.
When you think about it, HDMI cables should require a license to transfer AC3 and DTS from point A to B....lol I don't see how passthrough audio w/o decoding or touching it is any different.
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Plex uses what ever media player is built in to said device. For Android, it's exoplayer. On your Samsung TV (and my own), it's Samsung's media player and their APIs that Plex use.
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I couldn't agree more about the HDMI cable license as that would be common sense... the whole license deal is so screwed up for both audio and video and always has been. But Google could clearly afford to license properly for their media boxes!
As for Plex: its doubly important what the Nexus Player natively supports for those running Plex servers on non-Intel NAS devices such as most Synology NASes. Those don't have the power to transcode so Plex can only direct/bitstream for both video and audio. The Nexus Player needs to be robust in its native container and codec support to exist in a livingroom.
I wonder how kodi gets around the walled garden to bitstream properly over android's hdmi, or do they? I've never run XBMC/kodi on android.
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I wonder how kodi gets around the walled garden to bitstream properly, or do they on Android?
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They have it on Android. You need to enable expert settings then its listed. I just installed it the other day so I could watch something without it pausing all the time.
I'm sure as soon as the masses get their nexus players and complain to Plex they won't be able to ignore us on the bugs; like the pausing issue in their last android release.
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They have it on Android. You need to enable expert settings then its listed. I just installed it the other day so I could watch something without it pausing all the time.
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Have you tested a bunch of containers and codes on the ADT-1's kodi? If it has native passthrough for both AC3 and DTS, does it also transcode AAC 5.1 to multichannel PCM or downmix to stereo PCM? I assume it natively supports all kinds of containers considering what the PC version can do, but it'd be great to try a variety to verify. How about xvid and/or mpeg-2? I'd also be interested how it supports .flac and other uncompressed audio codecs.
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I'm sure as soon as the masses get their nexus players and complain to Plex they won't be able to ignore us on the bugs; like the pausing issue in their last android release.
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I sure hope so... hopefully we can encourage people here to all send bug reports and complaints.
Hi all.
I try to get MX Player to play dolby 5.1 or dts sounds on my TV.
Specs:
- TV: Philips OLED POS 9002 with Android Oreo
- Sound: Bose Soundtouch 300 Soundbar with rear speakers, connected optical. Can play Dolby Digital and DTS.
- App: either direct (using USB) or via DS Video and streaming from NAS. Latest version from Google Play Store.
No matter if I use a custom codec (mx_neon.zip) or not and any decoder (hw+, hw, sw), if I try to play certain test vidoes from here: https://kodi.wiki/view/Samples
especially the channel checks and it is some sort of upmix from stereo, but definitely no disctinct channel selection.
To be exact: I did not test all variations (custom, standard, all decoder) so far...
--> it seems there is exactly the same behavior with my new Amazon Fire TV Stick 4K - only stereo as well...
Is there anything that I can test or do or try to get it work. Besides the sound issue, DS Video and MX Player are working very well, it would be a pity that due to sound issues I can not use it for anything else than stereo.
Thank you for any hint.
Best regards
ww
webwude said:
Hi all.
I try to get MX Player to play dolby 5.1 or dts sounds on my TV.
Specs:
- TV: Philips OLED POS 9002 with Android Oreo
- Sound: Bose Soundtouch 300 Soundbar with rear speakers, connected optical. Can play Dolby Digital and DTS.
- App: either direct (using USB) or via DS Video and streaming from NAS. Latest version from Google Play Store.
No matter if I use a custom codec (mx_neon.zip) or not and any decoder (hw+, hw, sw), if I try to play certain test vidoes from here: https://kodi.wiki/view/Samples
especially the channel checks and it is some sort of upmix from stereo, but definitely no disctinct channel selection.
To be exact: I did not test all variations (custom, standard, all decoder) so far...
--> it seems there is exactly the same behavior with my new Amazon Fire TV Stick 4K - only stereo as well...
Is there anything that I can test or do or try to get it work. Besides the sound issue, DS Video and MX Player are working very well, it would be a pity that due to sound issues I can not use it for anything else than stereo.
Thank you for any hint.
Best regards
ww
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We regret the inconveniences caused by the delay in our response. Unfortunately, MX Player does not support audio audio passthrough mode over SPDIF at the moment. However, it is applicable only to the HW+ / SW decoder.
HW decoder directly makes use of Android mediaplayer framework on the device. So, If it is implemented to use audio passthrough mode, it should work as expected. Please check whether there any system settings that can enable the audio passthrough made. Enabling it may let you allow passing the audio directly to the external audio system.
Thank you for your reply.
The soundbar is connected either optical or via HDMI ARC.
As it is working with the internal media player and with Kodi (enabling all passthrough options), but not with VLC (same effect), it might be a bug of the current firmware (there is a similar bug concerning 1920x800 video and the black bars which is present with third-party-apps as Kodi, VLC and MX player, but not with Amazon prime video and the internal player). I opened a ticket at Philips. Let's see how it develops.
As mentioned: as it works with the internal player it seems that the overall settings are correct.
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5.1 sound is only stereo on Philips android TV
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HW decoder directly makes use of Android mediaplayer framework on the device. So, If it is implemented to use audio passthrough mode, it should work as expected. Please check whether there any system settings that can enable the audio passthrough made. Enabling it may let you allow passing the audio directly to the external audio system.
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I have the same problem with philips 43pus7304 android TV. Internal player and Nova Video Player can play 5.1 AC3 sound, but mx player and vlc can't - my av receiver shows that input signal is only stereo. I tried it via hdmi arc and optical - the same result. Please fix this - mx player is the best of all, but such a bug!
I tried all kinds of settings in your player ant tv - but problem is somewhere else but not in settings. Also I tried default decoder and mx_aio.zip.
I seem to having the same issue at the moment. The internet player on the app I'm using is fine, I'm getting DD plus showing. When I change to use an external player, either Mx or VLC or always shows as stereo 2.0.
Tried various settings and codecs and so far no luck.
Any ideas?
I’m having this same issue on FireTV 4k
Did anyone find a solution for this issue?
Has there been any updates to this issue?
Still no update in sight? There are so many topics on this
I have the same problem on sony A8 oled. With inbuilt player I get 5.1 to AV receiver. Mx player and vlc stereo only. The problem is that the inbuilt player won't stream from a NAS while mx player and vlc will, but stereo only. So I have to copy files to tv.
Any ideas?
Thank you
Just for the sake of update on alternative options.
I've spent 2 days trying to find the working solution to stream my files from NAS on Amazon FireTV stick with 5.1 audio output.
My setup:
FireTV Stick > HDMI Audio Extractor box > TV
HDMI Audio Extractor > Optical > Logitech Dolby Digital 5.1 (Z906)
While Amazon Prime and Netflix play 5.1 just fine, I was struggling to make it work with NAS stored files.
ES File Explorer, MIXplorer, Xplore built-in players do not support audio passthrough
MX Player - while it has some options for audio passthrough - I have failed to make it work, in the end I was getting stereo downmix no matter what I've tried in settings
VLC player - same as for MX Player
Nova player - found a hint in this thread and tried it. Indeed, it was the first success. But partial. AC3 passthrough worked fine, but AAC/DTS tracks were failing, so with passthrough enabled - no sound for AAC/DTS
I continued searching for alternatives and finally found almost perfect solutions: Vimu media player
It's not free, by 3 bucks don't hurt.
While Vimu also supports passthrough for AC3 only... it has BUILT-IN transcoding support to convert AAC/DTS/DTS HD/etc. into AC3!!! And I confirm it works! Also it has very clean interface to browse your Network storage devices, so you can skip using File managers and navigate through your library directly from Vimu. However I am missing a bit some of the functionalities from Nova like metadata / description/posters fetching from online databases.
The only Vimu feature which was not working well for me was 'Preferred Audio language' - despite of having English enabled, it was still playing first track by default.
Hope someone will find this helpful and will save some time
Dusha999 said:
Just for the sake of update on alternative options.
I've spent 2 days trying to find the working solution to stream my files from NAS on Amazon FireTV stick with 5.1 audio output.
My setup:
FireTV Stick > HDMI Audio Extractor box > TV
HDMI Audio Extractor > Optical > Logitech Dolby Digital 5.1 (Z906)
While Amazon Prime and Netflix play 5.1 just fine, I was struggling to make it work with NAS stored files.
ES File Explorer, MIXplorer, Xplore built-in players do not support audio passthrough
MX Player - while it has some options for audio passthrough - I have failed to make it work, in the end I was getting stereo downmix no matter what I've tried in settings
VLC player - same as for MX Player
Nova player - found a hint in this thread and tried it. Indeed, it was the first success. But partial. AC3 passthrough worked fine, but AAC/DTS tracks were failing, so with passthrough enabled - no sound for AAC/DTS
I continued searching for alternatives and finally found almost perfect solutions: Vimu media player
It's not free, by 3 bucks don't hurt.
While Vimu also supports passthrough for AC3 only... it has BUILT-IN transcoding support to convert AAC/DTS/DTS HD/etc. into AC3!!! And I confirm it works! Also it has very clean interface to browse your Network storage devices, so you can skip using File managers and navigate through your library directly from Vimu. However I am missing a bit some of the functionalities from Nova like metadata / description/posters fetching from online databases.
The only Vimu feature which was not working well for me was 'Preferred Audio language' - despite of having English enabled, it was still playing first track by default.
Hope someone will find this helpful and will save some time
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Thank You for this information, you are absolutely right, Vimu does pass the Dolby 5.1 and probably Dolby Atmos(I don't have a receiver for Atmos) on thru my LG tv to my receiver from my 4k Firestick! I was only able to get Netflix and Prime to do that until I loaded Vimu and it plays my local movie files from my server perfectly. Had previously tried MXPlayer, VLC, and several others to no avail! Thanks again!
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The only Vimu feature which was not working well for me was 'Preferred Audio language' - despite of having English enabled, it was still playing first track by default.
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This issue was resolved in the latest update
I can't believe I'm still asking this in 2020, but casting audio and/or video content to DLNA has been a problem since Android's release -- and the situation hasn't improved, even in Android Q. I've used BubbleUPnP on rooted phones for many years to stream almost any type of audio content to DLNA. But I haven't been nearly as successful casting video streams to DLNA, with BubbleUPnP or anything else. Up to now, I've just lived with it.
But along comes the virus, so our very large church can now only meet via its live stream. Understandably, my wife wants to view the services on the TV vs. a tiny phone screen. The live stream displays perfectly in any Android browser, but I've been totally unable to cast/mirror it to either of my DLNA-equipped TVs. I can cast locally-stored .MP4 movies from my phone to either DLNA TV with BubbleUPnP. And I've even managed to cast previous services from the church's recorded video archive, which are simply recordings made from the same original live streams.
But for some reason, trying to cast the live stream itself always gives errors. I've tried every option in BubbleUPnP, plus every other product I could find in the Play Store that claims to support DLNA, all with no success. Both the recorded videos and the live stream appear as embedded objects within the church's website, but I'm assuming the live stream uses a different protocol that none of the DLNA casting apps can handle?
Yes, I might be able to cobble something together using a Chromecast instead of DLNA. But I have no other need for a Chromecast; am not even certain that it would solve the problem; and just hate to run out and give Google more $$ for functionality that should have been built into Android years ago. Unlike a proprietary Chromecast, DLNA is a widely-used standard. DLNA renderers are built into two of my TVs, and an audio-only renderer is included in my Yamaha AV receiver. I'd just like to be able to use them.
Any ideas welcome... many thanks!