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Im not sure if this has been asked and answered... My search of the nexus s forum didnt turn up much...
In google voice (where i've been receiving all of my voice and text messages) the same contact has multiple threads. It seems like each days text messages go into a new thread by default or something. Bottom line, to look at a previous day's messages i have to back out of the current days message thead and scroll down (through other contact's duplicated threads) and open the same contacts messages from a previous day.
In the default android messaging app all texts to a single contact are grouped together. google voice on the other hand makes going back through texts a pain. is there any way to make google voice text groupings behave like the stock android app?
sorry to reply to my own question.... >100 views, anyone have any ideas? is anyone with sprint even experiencing the same issue?
Yes, I am experiencing the same issue on my Nexus S on Sprint.
droidster24 said:
Yes, I am experiencing the same issue on my Nexus S on Sprint.
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That's how they are grouped at voice.google.com too so I don't believe it's an app or a Sprint issue.
EDIT: Seems like it was designed that way, the reasons for which aren't clear:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/voice/thread?tid=2e9955e6dd3bc56a&hl=en
I noticed the same thing. It gets kind of annoying but I just archive the old ones in case I need to go back for something. Would be nice to have one per person but perhaps it's to limit size?
Any resolution to this? I have gvoice on my HTC vision and it still seems to be creating multiple threads for the same contact (not 100% of the time, but often)
Hi there,
My first post here, although I've hung out, anonymously, looking at the resources within the forum.
Today I received my Nexus 5. It's a lovely bit of hardware, but I've come from an HTC phone (4.1.1 Desire X) and I love the Sense UI; just so you know, I hate stock 4.4 thus my post below is in utter exasperation
I'm having an issue with trying to send an SMS. Unfortunately, I have to use Hangouts (I refused to update from Google Talk on the Desire X) and I'm finding that I can't sending a frigging SMS to a colleague at work because I have his Gmail email address as part of his contact details!!!
This is absolutely the most retarded thing in a Phone OS that I have come across, ever. Unfortunately, as an early adopter of this phone, I'm stuck without an alternative. So far as I can see, in Hangouts, I would have to type in the phone number manually whilst being logged out of my Gmail accounts in Hangouts to send an SMS, or maybe deleting the user's email address would suffice.
Am I missing some way of sending an SMS that's not completely obvious here?
My N5 arrives tomorrow, so I can't be much help with the app itself, but if it's really confusing/awful you can download an alternative SMS app from the play store and set it as your default.
Edit: I hear you on hating hangouts. I cant stand the version they have on 4.0/4.1/4.2/4.3, been sticking with talk also.
I don't have it in my hands yet to test, but I'm fairly sure once you've opened the "new hangout" window, you can tap on their name on the upper left and switch to SMS from Hangout message.
two00lbwaster said:
Hi there,
My first post here, although I've hung out, anonymously, looking at the resources within the forum.
Today I received my Nexus 5. It's a lovely bit of hardware, but I've come from an HTC phone (4.1.1 Desire X) and I love the Sense UI; just so you know, I hate stock 4.4 thus my post below is in utter exasperation
I'm having an issue with trying to send an SMS. Unfortunately, I have to use Hangouts (I refused to update from Google Talk on the Desire X) and I'm finding that I can't sending a frigging SMS to a colleague at work because I have his Gmail email address as part of his contact details!!!
This is absolutely the most retarded thing in a Phone OS that I have come across, ever. Unfortunately, as an early adopter of this phone, I'm stuck without an alternative. So far as I can see, in Hangouts, I would have to type in the phone number manually whilst being logged out of my Gmail accounts in Hangouts to send an SMS, or maybe deleting the user's email address would suffice.
Am I missing some way of sending an SMS that's not completely obvious here?
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This app simply uses the word "Hangouts" over "SMS" so basically new hangout means new text message unless you specify a hangout chat. If the actual hangouts for either is unavailable then a text message will be automatically sent to the number. New "SMS" is the plus button and you can immediately type the number or scroll to find your contact. Everything after seems to work just like iMessage.
koriflame said:
My N5 arrives tomorrow, so I can't be much help with the app itself, but if it's really confusing/awful you can download an alternative SMS app from the play store and set it as your default.
Edit: I hear you on hating hangouts. I cant stand the version they have on 4.0/4.1/4.2/4.3, been sticking with talk also.
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Seems to be the downside of having the device nice and early, noone else has one to confirm the issue.
Unfortunately, the other apps don't seem to work as they have to be rebuilt due to the changes that 4.4 has introduced
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Seems to be the downside of having the device nice and early, noone else has one to confirm the issue.
Unfortunately, the other apps don't seem to work as they have to be rebuilt due to the changes that 4.4 has introduced
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I'm not sure what problem you are having. I just got my N5 today and when I create a new message in Hangouts and choose a contact (one that has a gmail.com email address as well as a cell number) I have the choice between starting a chat or sending an SMS to the phone number. Do you not see this?
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I don't have it in my hands yet to test, but I'm fairly sure once you've opened the "new hangout" window, you can tap on their name on the upper left and switch to SMS from Hangout message.
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I'll have a look to see if that works.
KinghtMare. said:
This app simply uses the word "Hangouts" over "SMS" so basically new hangout means new text message unless you specify a hangout chat. If the actual hangouts for either is unavailable then a text message will be automatically sent to the number. New "SMS" is the plus button and you can immediately type the number or scroll to find your contact. Everything after seems to work just like iMessage.
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I've never had an iPhone, which I'm guessing from the name is where that messaging application comes from. I tried to send a message to a collegue, and it sent it as a hangout, not an SMS. There is no option not to send it as an hangout, any more so than there is an option to send the message as a hangout, so I can't send him text messages.
davekr said:
I'm not sure what problem you are having. I just got my N5 today and when I create a new message in Hangouts and choose a contact (one that has a gmail.com email address as well as a cell number) I have the choice between starting a chat or sending an SMS to the phone number. Do you not see this?
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Okay, yes, if I type in the person's name I now see several entries for the person, one is the Hangouts account which is top and the other is for SMS.
However, if I scroll down and select the person as I was doing originally, even though it says his phone number, it defaults to hangouts and you can't change it.
I don't have particularly many people in my contacts list so I prefer to scroll and select, as it's probably quicker for me, rather than type into the search box.
you need to verify your phone number before being able to use it for sms
hit the plus button and add a contact...then select the contact's name from the top of the screen (next to the green handouts icon), and choose their phone number instead of their email address
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n7of9 said:
you need to verify your phone number before being able to use it for sms
hit the plus button and add a contact...then select the contact's name from the top of the screen (next to the green handouts icon), and choose their phone number instead of their email address
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Quite aside from not wishing to verify my number with Google, I shouldn't have to. SMS should be completely devoid of this kind of requirement as it is very basic mobile phone functionality.
I have spent quite some considerable time today turning off location services and and any data sent back to Google. I've also been disabling certain Google Apps and would disable more if it would let me. I've also found that App Ops seems to have been disabled too, so I can't even control what third party apps do; which was part of the reason for getting a 4.3+ phone.
At the moment, it seems that I can send messages, and hopefully something like Contacts+ will be updated to work with 4.4 and I can then disable Hangouts.
you can disable hangouts now, you just need to install an alternative sms app if you don't like the default...try Handcent
and don't be angry when someone is trying to help you
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It's not hangout it's u
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digweed4me said:
It's not hangout it's u
If u don't know how to use hangout tell google to put out I message crap on your nexus 5
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two00lbwaster said:
Quite aside from not wishing to verify my number with Google, I shouldn't have to. SMS should be completely devoid of this kind of requirement as it is very basic mobile phone functionality.
I have spent quite some considerable time today turning off location services and and any data sent back to Google. I've also been disabling certain Google Apps and would disable more if it would let me. I've also found that App Ops seems to have been disabled too, so I can't even control what third party apps do; which was part of the reason for getting a 4.3+ phone.
At the moment, it seems that I can send messages, and hopefully something like Contacts+ will be updated to work with 4.4 and I can then disable Hangouts.
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So install your own SMS app...4.4 allows you to use any SMS app as the default App, and then you can even uninstall Hangouts if you want to.
That's the beauty of a Nexus device.
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you can disable hangouts now, you just need to install an alternative sms app if you don't like the default...try Handcent
and don't be angry when someone is trying to help you
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Sorry, I'm just angry that Google have just foisted the Hangouts app onto 4.4 users when it clearly isn't user friendly enough and makes one of my most common uses of the phone difficult.
I'll try Handcent. Contacts+/Messages+ doesn't currently seem to support 4.4 as you can't set it as the default messaging application and you can't send outgoing messages (It looks like you can send messages but they just disappear and aren't sent.)
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So install your own SMS app...4.4 allows you to use any SMS app as the default App, and then you can even uninstall Hangouts if you want to.
That's the beauty of a Nexus device.
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The issue that I'm having is that not a lot of messaging applications support 4.4 yet. And as I've found with Messages+ if it doesn't support it you can have issues with messages that don't send/disappear.
You can uninstall Hangouts updates, you can't uninstall it. And if you uninstall the updates, you can't disable it.
Sliding messaging was updated to be compatible with 4.4, you can try it out
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I'm with the OP on this, I received my N5 today and it's almost impossible to start a new SMS conversation from within the app.
The app itelf is quite nice, but the SMS experience is sub-standard to say the least. I know I can go install another SMS app - but that's not the point, it's like shipping the phone/software with no dialer in it.
Scottland said:
I'm with the OP on this, I received my N5 today and it's almost impossible to start a new SMS conversation from within the app.
The app itelf is quite nice, but the SMS experience is sub-standard to say the least. I know I can go install another SMS app - but that's not the point, it's like shipping the phone/software with no dialer in it.
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I must be a brain scientist or a rocket surgeon or something... all I had to do to create to new SMS was click the "+" then start typing my contact's name or number. If my contact has a phone number associated with it I can select that for an SMS or their email for a hangout message......
Im confused and whether i understand your question properly. Anyways in the actual recipients message you can click their name and switch from a SMS conversation to a google talk/hangouts message. Not sure if that helped or not. You can more clearly see what i am talking about in this video. http://youtu.be/0ZFc3NFqfFk
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I must be a brain scientist or a rocket surgeon or something... all I had to do to create to new SMS was click the "+" then start typing my contact's name or number. If my contact has a phone number associated with it I can select that for an SMS or their email for a hangout message......
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You must be
I've just tried to send an SMS to my mum, on her contact card she has a mobile number and email address. When I try to send a message, at the top I only have "Hangouts" as an option.
If I try another contact (who does have a G+ account), I have the option of SMS or Hangouts.
I also discovered Now SMS recently... Very nice looking simple UI that fits with recent Android conventions. Using it on my Nexus 7 3G since it didn't come with any SMS client.
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I recently ported the phone number I’ve had for years to Google Voice so I wouldn’t have to worry about losing my number when switching carriers. I read all the pros and cons about porting to Google and thought I could put up with the drawbacks of using the Google Voice app for texting.
After about two weeks of using Gvoice for texting, I miss the “standard way” of texting with the Android messaging app. Not being able to send or receive MMS is a bigger limitation than I thought it would be. Also, I can’t tell when I’m part of a group text, which several of my friends insist on sending quite often.
On a side note, I am selling my Gnex and so I’m temporarily using an iPhone 4S until my Nexus 5 arrives early next week. Here are my questions:
Is functionality of the Google Voice app for Android any different than the iOS version? That is, will any of my issues be resolved when I switch back to Android on the N5?
I have read Android 4.4 features better integration between Google Voice, Hangouts, and messaging. Will that integration affect texting with Google Voice at all? Do I have the option, for example, of using my Gvoice number with Hangouts or the stock messaging app?
If the answer to 1 and 2 above is “no,” what are my options? Port my number to T-mobile and go back to the “old way” of texting?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
SurlyGnex said:
I recently ported the phone number I’ve had for years to Google Voice so I wouldn’t have to worry about losing my number when switching carriers. I read all the pros and cons about porting to Google and thought I could put up with the drawbacks of using the Google Voice app for texting.
After about two weeks of using Gvoice for texting, I miss the “standard way” of texting with the Android messaging app. Not being able to send or receive MMS is a bigger limitation than I thought it would be. Also, I can’t tell when I’m part of a group text, which several of my friends insist on sending quite often.
On a side note, I am selling my Gnex and so I’m temporarily using an iPhone 4S until my Nexus 5 arrives early next week. Here are my questions:
Is functionality of the Google Voice app for Android any different than the iOS version? That is, will any of my issues be resolved when I switch back to Android on the N5?
I have read Android 4.4 features better integration between Google Voice, Hangouts, and messaging. Will that integration affect texting with Google Voice at all? Do I have the option, for example, of using my Gvoice number with Hangouts or the stock messaging app?
If the answer to 1 and 2 above is “no,” what are my options? Port my number to T-mobile and go back to the “old way” of texting?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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I'm in the same boat. Everyone has my Google Voice number. Unfortunately , it STILL isn't integrated with the Stock SMS app aka Hangouts. My Nexus 4 was running Cyanogenmod which did the integration for me automatically and it was perfect. But if you're going to stay on stock, this wont happen until google decides.
I've been looking at porting my number to gvoice as well, but I have a lot of friends that still insist on using MMS when there are tons of better ways these days. That and having to be stuck with the google voice app for texting are the 2 main reasons I'm reluctant on switching to google voice right now. I really hope they integrate all of that really soon.
bilago said:
I'm in the same boat. Everyone has my Google Voice number. Unfortunately , it STILL isn't integrated with the Stock SMS app aka Hangouts. My Nexus 4 was running Cyanogenmod which did the integration for me automatically and it was perfect. But if you're going to stay on stock, this wont happen until google decides.
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I was planning to root, but didn't realize this integration is standard in CM. Based on your description, it sounds like installing a custom ROM will do the trick. If not, I think I'll be porting my Gvoice number to Tmobile.
Thanks for the replies.
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I was planning to root, but didn't realize this integration is standard in CM. Based on your description, it sounds like installing a custom ROM will do the trick. If not, I think I'll be porting my Gvoice number to Tmobile.
Thanks for the replies.
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Currently its only supported with full integration on Cyanogenmod, thanks to a nifty app called Voice+ (apk cannot be loaded on another rom, there are dependencies baked in the framework)
This was SMS integration to the Native SMS app on 4.3. Hopefully it still will work with Hangouts.
bilago said:
Currently its only supported with full integration on Cyanogenmod, thanks to a nifty app called Voice+ (apk cannot be loaded on another rom, there are dependencies baked in the framework)
This was SMS integration to the Native SMS app on 4.3. Hopefully it still will work with Hangouts.
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Has anyone tried Voice+ and Hangouts on 4.4 in CM (or any other custom ROM for that matter)? If so, please post up here and confirm. I would love to keep my number with Google.
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Has anyone tried Voice+ and Hangouts on 4.4 in CM (or any other custom ROM for that matter)? If so, please post up here and confirm. I would love to keep my number with Google.
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Voice+ does not work on any other custom rom. CM11 is currently unofficial so there wont be many users. You may get results by asking on the CM11 thread in the development section of the forums.
I have been using Google Voice as my main line for 1.5 years. The app on the iphone is horrible. Its better on android but still flawed. I wouldn't expect MMS anytime soon. The web interface isn't too bad either.
One thing I do when I want to picture message somebody is upload the image somewhere and then send a link to the image. I do not recommended this for private images though.
Google Voice is pretty much for plain texting and is reliable for plain texting for the most part. Google doesn't seem to care too much about the service being half assed though.
If you could go back to reg texting through T-Mobile I would. I only use GV because it saves me money on not having a text messaging plan through att. Regular texting is much better than Google Voice.
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stelv said:
I have been using Google Voice as my main line for 1.5 years. The app on the iphone is horrible. Its better on android but still flawed. I wouldn't expect MMS anytime soon. The web interface isn't too bad either.
One thing I do when I want to picture message somebody is upload the image somewhere and then send a link to the image. I do not recommended this for private images though.
Google Voice is pretty much for plain texting and is reliable for plain texting for the most part. Google doesn't seem to care too much about the service being half assed though.
If you could go back to reg texting through T-Mobile I would. I only use GV because it saves me money on not having a text messaging plan through att. Regular texting is much better than Google Voice.
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I read in an article (no link handy) that Google Voice is expected to be integrated with Hangouts, much like SMS/messaging was recently integrated with Hangouts, and that MMS support will be added. No date given by Google, but the article said no later than early 2014.
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I use my Google Voice number with hangouts. I just link the weird number that Google gives me when I text via Google Voice to that person and use that to text. It's been working fine for almost 2 years now.
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I tried on an CM11 kang for d2vzw and it isn't working. I'm looking for fixes right now but no luck so far. I may have to go back to 4.3.1...
Ulver said:
I use my Google Voice number with hangouts. I just link the weird number that Google gives me when I text via Google Voice to that person and use that to text. It's been working fine for almost 2 years now.
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This is what I do too. Been using it for about 4 years this way. I've finally converted most of my friends and family to hangouts though. So for me this isn't a huge deal any more.
I've been wondering how much longer text will last? A lot of people I know have dropped it since smartphones are getting so ubiquitous now. Was thinking of doing the same myself. I guess where I'm going is that I was wondering if the seeming lack of concern for voice is based on the fact that it's going to be folded into hangouts and gutted along the way. Rumour has it all the carriers are starting to plan for how to make up for the lost revinues from the death of texting. A lot of free money they were taking in that they're going to miss.
One of the CyanogenMod developers recently fixed voice+, most builds will probably see the changes.
https://plus.google.com/110558071969009568835/posts/9Mg1NYRHL1f
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I tried searching for this but it's so specific and I'm quite possibly using the wrong terms.
Let both of my LG G3 update to Android 6.0 (D85030p) and the default SMS messenger has stopped working with my text banking and retirement balance texts.
They will send and receive texts from other people but not these 6 digit numbers. No response from either one even trying to re-register the phone with each institution.
Google Messenger works just fine but lacks the only feature I like about the default G3 SMS, the ability to lock/keep a reply from being deleted. Even when deleting an entire conversation, the locked replies within are saved. That is the only feature I am missing.
Can anyone recommend another SMS app that has this feature or maybe there is a setting somewhere with the default SMS that I'm just not seeing ?
There are a million SMS apps in the play store and trying to read each one for details gets old after about 20 minutes. Hopefully there is a fix or another app that has this feature that someone here knows about.
Thank you.
Guess I'll answer my own question.
The Verizon messaging app has the features I'm looking for.
I was invited into a group chat with 3 other Verizon users, we all have Android phones - but they all use the official (God awful) Verizon Message+ app and I'm using Pixel's default (Google) texting app, which I really like so far. Problem is... When I first was invited into the group text, it worked - kind of. I got text messages and stuff, but instead of replacing the phone numbers that prefixed the messages, it'd just show the phone numbers.
So I asked them what they used, and downloaded the Verizon texting app and switched to that - I could see avatars, the background picture, it read my contact info for each user correctly, etc.. But the app is terrible, I mean a truly god awful piece of garbage - you can't even save images to your phone, just to "Verizon".
Anyways, rant aside - I switched back to Google's texting app and now I'm not getting any messages in the group text - and I asked in person, they're still sending messages, they're just not coming through for me.
So my main question is: How do I fix not receiving group texts anymore? I tried deleting cache + data for the google texting app like I saw being recommended, but that didn't fix it. I really don't want to switch back to the Verizon message+ app if I can help it because it really is terrible.
Any help would be appreciated. I'd even accept another texting app suggestion if it has feature parity with the google app, I just want to do everything I can to avoid Verizon's app.
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I was invited into a group chat with 3 other Verizon users, we all have Android phones - but they all use the official (God awful) Verizon Message+ app and I'm using Pixel's default (Google) texting app, which I really like so far. Problem is... When I first was invited into the group text, it worked - kind of. I got text messages and stuff, but instead of replacing the phone numbers that prefixed the messages, it'd just show the phone numbers.
So I asked them what they used, and downloaded the Verizon texting app and switched to that - I could see avatars, the background picture, it read my contact info for each user correctly, etc.. But the app is terrible, I mean a truly god awful piece of garbage - you can't even save images to your phone, just to "Verizon".
Anyways, rant aside - I switched back to Google's texting app and now I'm not getting any messages in the group text - and I asked in person, they're still sending messages, they're just not coming through for me.
So my main question is: How do I fix not receiving group texts anymore? I tried deleting cache + data for the google texting app like I saw being recommended, but that didn't fix it. I really don't want to switch back to the Verizon message+ app if I can help it because it really is terrible.
Any help would be appreciated. I'd even accept another texting app suggestion if it has feature parity with the google app, I just want to do everything I can to avoid Verizon's app.
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Does your device have a "dual messenger" option anywhere in your system settings?
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No promises, but you might try Textra. I think the problem come from Verizon's app can send over Wi-Fi (desktop apps) and is not really sms compliant.
Thank you both, but sadly no option for dual messaging and I've used Textra and wasn't a huge fan. As awful as the Verizon app is, I may just have to keep using it ?