I just w the aluminum back plates. If I buy the qi sticker, would wireless charging work through the aluminum back?
I'd be more concerned with getting a useable mobile signal with the aluminum back...
Mate, Do a search on net for this topic.
I saw numerous posts and you tube vids where people showed they went from 4-5 bars signal strength to 1-2 in same place when putting an Al back plate on their phones. I hate to think what call clarity or connection stability would be like with that low a network connection.
Those back plates may look great but they cause major problems like this.
Here is one-
http://jetcityninja.wordpress.com/2...-cases-will-affect-cellphone-signal-strength/
the new iphone 6 that all the fan boys leaped over has a metal unibody design in which there are those white plastic inserts at each end of the case, that is to allow transmissions thru the case.
You will notice the Note 4 has 4 plastic inserts thru the metal edge frame too, can be seen on chamfered edges, the rest of each one is covered by the paint on edge. That breaks up the metal of the frame and prevents it forming an unbroken loop that can also interfere with the signal pattern.
Exactly, so the back cover would really have no effect on signal because of this reason.... Right?
big70tom said:
Exactly, so the back cover would really have no effect on signal because of this reason.... Right?
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Buy it and see but don't say you weren't warned
The answer is no.
big70tom said:
Exactly, so the back cover would really have no effect on signal because of this reason.... Right?
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As I said above a solid back plate WILL most likely cause significant loss of signal strength as many have reported in the you tube clips I mentioned in my previous post.
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I just picked up the extended battery, for my Thunderbolt.
The extended battery cover clearly has a huge LTE antenna.
The antenna, on my stock cover is very small.
Can any one else confirm?
That's the secondary. The main one is by the kickstand.
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Why would the stock cover, have a non existent extended antenna?
I would think they would both have the same one.
tanman21 said:
I just picked up the extended battery, for my Thunderbolt.
The extended battery cover clearly has a huge LTE antenna.
The antenna, on my stock cover is very small.
Can any one else confirm?
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forgive me if im wrong because im no expert but i think the metal things you see sticking out are just the contacts for the antenna. the actual antenna is hidden under that black electrical tape looking thing running around the edge. with that said we cant really see how big the antenna is under that black tape thing.. we dont know if they are both the same size. just cuz that tape is thicker doesnt mean the antenna is bigger...
You are right. I am assuming that there is an antenna under that tape.
On the stock battery cover, there is not even any tape at all.
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-thunderbolt-extended-battery-door.html#6
I want to order this but the reports of the batt cover not having same antennas has me a little worried. Also anyone know a good seido case like the platinum one that fits this ?
According to the fcc website the antenna by the kickstand is for 1x voice only. The 3g and LTE antenna are where the two tiny holes in the cover are, and the gps antenna is the piece of "tape" that u see in the stock cover. A buddy of mine ripped his stock cover apart and it appears that the 3g and LTE antennas are molded underneath the plastic with some sort of conductive spray at the factory, that's why the very small contact point that's visible looks like the only antenna. I'll try to get a pic of the torn apart cover.
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According to the fcc website the antenna by the kickstand is for 1x voice only. The 3g and LTE antenna are where the two tiny holes in the cover are, and the gps antenna is the piece of "tape" that u see in the stock cover. A buddy of mine ripped his stock cover apart and it appears that the 3g and LTE antennas are molded underneath the plastic with some sort of conductive spray at the factory, that's why the very small contact point that's visible looks like the only antenna. I'll try to get a pic of the torn apart cover.
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What's the link to the site you obtained this information?
On the stock cover, the antenna is on the outside, hence the two feedthrough holes. It looks like it's on the inside of the extended battery cover.
I actually experienced a little better reception with the extended battery door.
It wasn't much, but I did pick up 4G in a few more fringe areas than before.
I just started developing this odd creaking noise near the bottom and sides of my S4G. Even with a Seidio Active case wrapped around it, the creaking can be felt and heard when hitting the bottom buttons.
The fix is pretty easy. You just need to decrease the amount of movement the back cover has.
I had some .010 mil fiber (fish) paper laying around so I cut a small square that covers the sim card and microsd card area. You can probably use something else, but hey, why not use some insulated paper if you have it.
Lay the paper on top of the area and then slowly place the back cover back on. No holes are in that area above the sim and microsd, so no worries there. You should see an immediate improvement
I needed more than that to stop the creaking/screen movement.
Pathetic we have to go to these lengths
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I needed more than that to stop the creaking/screen movement.
Pathetic we have to go to these lengths
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What did you have to do?
I tried used two squares of paper, but that made the back bulge out a little too much to my liking.
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What did you have to do?
I tried used two squares of paper, but that made the back bulge out a little too much to my liking.
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I took a post-it and folded it twice. Then placed it on the bottom right area and closed up the cover. For me when I press down on the bottom right side of the screen the whole screen sort of depresses a bit. Only way I could get rid of that was to place the paper in that region. Problem solved.
Post it would have been my backup method
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buy another battery, i recently got an anker also had the creaking problems, noticed the anker is a TINY bit thicker than the stock battery and it removed that problem completely. and that anker battery was DIRT cheap
I just lined the case with some scotch tape. from the bottom to about 3/4 of the way up. I just went around the antenna nubs and the usb hole.
Posted this in another thread, but felt it was valuable here too...
Got the creaking here also, definitely a design flaw. Being obsessive with my devices i couldnt live with it!
I do not recommend putting paper in the cover to fill the gap, as this is just expanding the cover further making it even MORE loose when the paper is not in there. Also i wouldn't recommend it because the paper pushes the back cover out a little more, you may loose a connection for the ground. Which is the little metal springy thing, half way up the right hand side. Obviously its not a good idea to 'push' the cover further away from this ground spot. I have heard that people have had issues with screen responsiveness due to a static build up from not grounding properly.
What i did to fix this problem was a bit of a kitbash of sorts.
Mine was creaking on the bottom right area, like most. The problem is there is too much play between the little black catches on the battery cover and the latch on the handset. Instead of filling up the gap between the phone and the cover (Ala paper, card in the cover) I closed it!
What you need to do is get some very thin plastic film. Like that on kids toy packaging etc. Not the thicker stuff though. This stuff would be under 1mm thick. It came as a viewing window in the box my new wallet came in. So you can sorta imagine what im talking about.
I cut a piece about 10mm long and as wide as one of the two little black catches. I applied a VERY thin coat of super glue to one end of the film. Just enough to cover the area under the catch. Then i carefully placed the film with the superglue on it under the catch, and then quickly applied some pressure to it with some tweezers. Then i carefully cut the excess off with a pair of finely tipped nail scissors.
The result is that it now PULLS the screen/phone INTO the cover more by making the little black catch thicker. Not the opposite (paper method), which pushes the cover out, creating a further problem of adding more paper under the cover over time as the cover expands/loosens to compensate. Not to mention a possible grounding loss and resulting damage.
Hope this helps some people that have had multiple replacements or could not be bothered replacing for such a cosmetic issue. (Like me). It definitely works, just got to get your surgeon on and be accurate with your placement of the film.
Apply this to what ever side creaks the most, and bam its gone. Nice. Solid phone... again.
If anyone wants more specific details etc, im all ears.
Regards,
Matt.
will try it with an double side film ...
i mean a film that hold back cover and phone together ;-) i think doing paper in there will do damage with time
I contacted HTC and they sent me another/new one. No more creaking!
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I contacted HTC and they sent me another/new one. No more creaking!
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Back cover or whole phone?
I have the same problem too. And it just seems to get more and more "cracking"
forgive me if it has been posted over and over again, but after some time now, has any1 actually found a real fix? from last year's thread till now, some say it's software some say hardware, some say hard case solves it but some says aluminium foil does it. some even say by simply turning on best wifi performance, it will solve it.
some others say flashing a custom rom fixes it. so what is the actual fix? tomoro im going to buy aluminium foils and run it all over the antennaes behind my back cover and see if it helps..
i've tested my sensation, yes death grip is there, but not as terrible as people had it before.
here's my test results :
ROUTER : ASUS N53SV (use connectify)
OS : WIN7 HP
distance from router, 2metres, but blocked with a wooden door (those thick and hard type).
normal holding position : full bar
cover the antennae : 4 bars (- 1 bar)
cover the antennae with 2 hands : 3~4 bar
scenario 2 : distance : 10 metres (blocked by walls and doors) (went to different room on the same floor
normal holding position : 4 bar
cover with 1 hand : 2 bar
cover with 2 hand : 1 bar
considering the fact that im using my laptop to emit wireless signal, this is not bad at all. but im still trying the aluminium foil fix tomoro. will report back
do post your methods of fixing here if you have it thx
Every smartphone has a deathgrip issue and to be honest, it doesnt affect me so much. When i cover with my hand the antenna positions, signal drops 1 line, maximum 2, but like i said, that's normal. Had this problem with 3 different phones, and i think its a general smartphone issue. In many cases people like overreacting.
But hey, thats my opinion!
i've tried my damndest to find this death grip and i just cannot...i run a speedtest and completely cover every single part of the phone with both hands and i still manage to get a 10Mb throughput...so i just don't get it
Have you got a dual band router, if so that's probably why you cant find it.
Death grip affect all of the Sensation phones whether people admit it or not. The back cover is part of the antenna, so covering it with your hand WILL drop the signal. I find it is worse with wifi. No software will fix it, no tinfoil will fix it, no ROM will fix it. Just don't clasp your hands fully around the back cover and its not a big problem.
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Death grip affect all of the Sensation phones whether people admit it or not. The back cover is part of the antenna, so covering it with your hand WILL drop the signal. I find it is worse with wifi. No software will fix it, no tinfoil will fix it, no ROM will fix it. Just don't clasp your hands fully around the back cover and its not a big problem.
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that said, some people dont experience it at all. there's a couple of youtube videos proving that. they cover the entire backside of their phone and there's no signal loss..
Hello Guys,
I was loking for hours to find Aluminum Covers for the DHD to replace the plastic parts but wasn't able to find them (if they even exist).
I only know that HTC never officially released them.
But since I saw the MAO Method they used on the One S I wanted the same for my DHD
Does anyone know a shop where I can find these covers made of aluminum?
Thanks
MiXed
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Hello Guys,
I was loking for hours to find Aluminum Covers for the DHD to replace the plastic parts but wasn't able to find them (if they even exist).
I only know that HTC never officially released them.
But since I saw the MAO Method they used on the One S I wanted the same for my DHD
Does anyone know a shop where I can find these covers made of aluminum?
Thanks
MiXed
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You mean the doors? Won't find them because the clips to hold them in place wont function being made out of aluminum. Thus why only the immobile parts are made of it. If that is not what you are talking about, ignore me Not to mention the signal loss of grounded aluminum over the antennas would be crazy.
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You mean the doors? Won't find them because the clips to hold them in place wont function being made out of aluminum. Thus why only the immobile parts are made of it. If that is not what you are talking about, ignore me Not to mention the signal loss of grounded aluminum over the antennas would be crazy.
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But would't it be possible to make the outer part of aluminum and just the clips of plastic?
But ok seems to be impossible sad to hear
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But would't it be possible to make the outer part of aluminum and just the clips of plastic?
But ok seems to be impossible sad to hear
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possible yes, but the biggest factor would be that each plastic door covers an antenna. the led flash covers the gps, the battery covers the wifi, and the bottom door covers your cellular antennas. So replacing those with any kind of metal would connect them to the outer shell and ground them, almost completely shielding your phone from signal.
I just looked at the antenna except of gps (didnt want to open it all up). Wifi is just simply spaned mabe same with GPS. Only antenna that runs a bit through the door is the Sim/SD Door Antenna but if you would take a pretty flat and small cable you could run it through the left hole beside the two connectors. I dont know much about antennas but this could even make a stronger signal doesnt it?
p.s. The hole i mean is a bit upper left the two connectors (phone up side down)
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I just looked at the antenna except of gps (didnt want to open it all up). Wifi is just simply spaned mabe same with GPS. Only antenna that runs a bit through the door is the Sim/SD Door Antenna but if you would take a pretty flat and small cable you could run it through the left hole beside the two connectors. I dont know much about antennas but this could even make a stronger signal doesnt it?
p.s. The hole i mean is a bit upper left the two connectors (phone up side down)
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the simple answer is no. antenna length is specific to the frequency it uses.
I understand you need a specific lenght of the antenna for certain frequenzies. So the cable that would be needed to connect the two connectors should have around the same lenght as the the Antenna in the plastic door.
Do you know how accurate this would have to be and how do they realize to use different frequenzies with one antenna GSM around 900 MHZ and WCDMA around 2,1 GHZ?
Anything can be done the real question is how much are you willing to spend?
And is it really worth the trouble to go through trying to fix it?
You should just get a new phone instead of changing the parts.
Since we now know the S6's back cover can be removed, are there any manufacturers planning on making alternative covers? I'd love to get a brushed aluminum one, instead of a breakable glass one.
doubtful, the back cover isn't simply removed, as it is glued and must be heated to break the seal..
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doubtful, the back cover isn't simply removed, as it is glued and must be heated to break the seal..
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Ah. Well there goes that idea.
Yes, it's difficult to do it
plus using an aluminum back would decrease signal reception and download/upload speeds drastically, which why samsung opted for using glass.
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plus using an aluminum back would decrease signal reception and download/upload speeds drastically, which why samsung opted for using glass.
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more useful
Glass feels better too. I always thought the iPhone 4 was the most premium feeling device. Although it does get fingerprints can be easily wiped.
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Since we now know the S6's back cover can be removed, are there any manufacturers planning on making alternative covers? I'd love to get a brushed aluminum one, instead of a breakable glass one.
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I guess if you want to keep it protected get a back screen protector, will at least protect it from scratches and marks.
Agree with the other posts on this page, I'm sure the back has been engineered in a way that makes it just "work" with the S6. Trying to re-design or having a third party back cover is likely to have problems
glass also allows for the wireless charging to work
Kinda off topic but on a related note, would having an aluminium bumper affect signals as well, then?
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glass also allows for the wireless charging to work
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A very valid point. I'm not sure why anyone would want to replace it-- I think the glass on on the back is going to look great!
Anyone looking for replacement OEM rear glass I posted some details here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal.../galaxy-s6-s6-edge-replacement-glass-t3064857