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[Q] Buying NS outside of US and UK

I live in europe, but not in UK. Does anyone have ideas about how I should get my hands on the Nexus S, when it becomes available?
Any thoughts are most welcome

If you can wait, then sign up here: https://services.google.com/fb/forms/nexuss/
If you're in a hurry, then there are a few options:
1. Best Buy + delivery service like http://www.aramex.com/shopandship/default.aspx
2. eBay. Prices are about $730 now, I'd wait a bit.
3. Wait for somebody local to import a load of phones and sell on at higher price.

Carphone warehouse, vodafone contract only tho

shrivelfig said:
If you can wait, then sign up here: https://services.google.com/fb/forms/nexuss/
If you're in a hurry, then there are a few options:
1. Best Buy + delivery service like http://www.aramex.com/shopandship/default.aspx
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I'm afraid but "Best Buy does not ship to known freight forwarders, and orders to such will be canceled."

umbrella42 said:
I'm afraid but "Best Buy does not ship to known freight forwarders, and orders to such will be canceled."
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And I don't understand why...
Anyway i will place the order, if they reject my order i will take a Galaxy S...

velenox said:
And I don't understand why...
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Best Buys statement sounds like Erich Honecker DDR command economy to me. Anyway ...

velenox said:
And I don't understand why...
Anyway i will place the order, if they reject my order i will take a Galaxy S...
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Please inform us if you will recieve a phone ..
A lot of friends bought iPhone 4 in Apple store in other country and they recieved it via freight forwarders. It would be strange if Nexus S can be bought in this way, because they will only lower their sales.

According to this review, it will be available in EU in February and it will have lower price than Galaxy S i9000:
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/google-nexus-s-en.shtml
Also at that time Samsung will unveil i9100..

umbrella42 said:
I'm afraid but "Best Buy does not ship to known freight forwarders, and orders to such will be canceled."
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Huh. Disappointing, and smells of politics
Well, if BB don't want my money, then I will happily take it elsewhere. There might be an initial rush, but come January it will not be difficult to get one online, no matter where you live. Well, perhaps if you're on the ISS.

I think you can use site like MyUSABox (http://www.myusabox.com/), but personally I don't have experience with it. Don't know if anyone can comment about the site

shrivelfig said:
2. eBay. Prices are about $730 now, I'd wait a bit.
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I live in Greece....so if i am gonna buy it from ebay (US) does it comes with comes with one year warranty?...and after how many months do you think it will be sold in ebay (US) in the same price it is sold in US market (530$)?

What if Best Buy dun accept non-US credit card.....

lokto7 said:
What if Best Buy dun accept non-US credit card.....
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then we are f*cked!
but my best guess ... googles checkout or paypal ... not!?!

lokto7 said:
What if Best Buy dun accept non-US credit card.....
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Seems pretty unlikely.
I'm pretty sure they are unable to block credit cards by country.
If your credit card belongs to an established network (Visa or Mastercard for example), the payment should go through smoothly.
I'll be placing an order as soon as the Nexus S is in stock at best-buy.com, I'll keep you guys posted regarding the payment.

DJTaurus said:
I live in Greece....so if i am gonna buy it from ebay (US) does it comes with comes with one year warranty?
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I find no mention of warranty anywhere at all at Google, eBay or Best Buy. US warranties tend to be short, so I'd guess a phone sold in Greece would have a longer warranty, but at a higher price.
and after how many months do you think it will be sold in ebay (US) in the same price it is sold in US market (530$)?
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That will probably never happen. If you could buy loads of stuff somewhere at $530, would you sell them on eBay at the same price?

theophane said:
Seems pretty unlikely.
I'll be placing an order as soon as the Nexus S is in stock at best-buy.com, I'll keep you guys posted regarding the payment.
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How do you manage the shipment to france as best-buy.com delivers only to U.S. addresses?

umbrella42 said:
How do you manage the shipment to france as best-buy.com delivers only to U.S. addresses?
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The Nexus S will ship to NY, a friend of mine will then forward me the parcel to France.

Best buy ships to Εurope?
Any link about their shipping policy?

DJTaurus said:
Best buy ships to Εurope?
Any link about their shipping policy?
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Help-To...rs/pcmcat204400050019.c?id=pcmcat204400050019

DJTaurus said:
Best buy ships to Εurope?
Any link about their shipping policy?
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No, Best Buy does NOT ship to Europe.

Wannety n is it trasferable

Was looking at a good deal on a used one here local. What is the warrenty and can it be transferred to me a new owner? It is 2 mths old? Thanks Kindly.. sorry for mis typing in the title..Dang..

melax1 said:
Was looking at a good deal on a used one here local. What is the warrenty and can it be transferred to me a new owner? It is 2 mths old? Thanks Kindly..
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Samsung's warranty terms vary by country. Generally they are more concerned that it was purchased from an authorized reseller. If someone buys a Samsung product to give as a gift for example it would be silly for them to say the warranty only applies to the gift giver and not the recipient. If who you are buying it from can provide you with the original receipt and if they bought it from an authorized reseller you should be fine. If you can't get a receipt and/or it wasn't purchased from an authorized reseller you'll definitely have a problem should it need repair under warranty.

BarryH_GEG said:
Samsung's warranty terms vary by country. Generally they are more concerned that it was purchased from an authorized reseller. If someone buys a Samsung product to give as a gift for example it would be silly for them to say the warranty only applies to the gift giver and not the recipient. If who you are buying it from can provide you with the original receipt and if they bought it from an authorized reseller you should be fine. If you can't get a receipt and/or it wasn't purchased from an authorized reseller you'll definitely have a problem should it need repair under warranty.
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Thank you for your reply.

Help needed importing a Samsung Relay to Germany

as i can see, most of us here went the G1 -> G2 -> Relay way.
unfortunatly i'm sitting here in germany where the Relay is not available. and all attempts importing one so far failed. amazon doesn't have it in stock, ebay sellers don't ship overseas etc.
Can anybody help me aquire such a phone? Either get me one and send it to me or point out a dealer that ships to germany?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you.

kilr00y said:
as i can see, most of us here went the G1 -> G2 -> Relay way.
unfortunatly i'm sitting here in germany where the Relay is not available. and all attempts importing one so far failed. amazon doesn't have it in stock, ebay sellers don't ship overseas etc.
Can anybody help me aquire such a phone? Either get me one and send it to me or point out a dealer that ships to germany?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you.
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you have 3 options
1) negri electronics (they are trustworthy, i got my doubleshot from them)
2) canada gsm (never tried, and you gotta mail them to sort out the international shipping stuff before you order)
3) ebay
of course, going with ebay is the less expensive but the most risky option. i got my relay from ebay, i had to camp ebay.com for a while and message all the people that had a good auction open (try to stay away from fishy stuff that may be stolen or just a scam) and ask if they would ship oversea.
most of them do not, but some do, it's just a matter of patience.
keep in mind that you will have to pay the duties for importing goods, and they will probably be quite hefty, hovering around ~100€ if you go with a shop like negri electronics

Braccoz said:
you have 3 options
1) negri electronics (they are trustworthy, i got my doubleshot from them)
2) canada gsm (never tried, and you gotta mail them to sort out the international shipping stuff before you order)
3) ebay
of course, going with ebay is the less expensive but the most risky option. i got my relay from ebay, i had to camp ebay.com for a while and message all the people that had a good auction open (try to stay away from fishy stuff that may be stolen or just a scam) and ask if they would ship oversea.
most of them do not, but some do, it's just a matter of patience.
keep in mind that you will have to pay the duties for importing goods, and they will probably be quite hefty, hovering around ~100€ if you go with a shop like negri electronics
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The main reason why ebay sellers don't ship overseas, is due to customs and shipping. USPS Express mail, is the only way you can ship internationally with tracking. But some countries simply won't allow those shipments.
And the hassle of dealing with problems if something goes wrong...
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thanks for the 2 shops. i will look into it
i do a lot of international trading via ebay, but rarely with the US. but do i get this straight: in a country as large as the United States there is just one carrier which offers sending insured parcels overseas??? hard to believe...
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gtmaster303 said:
The main reason why ebay sellers don't ship overseas, is due to customs and shipping. USPS Express mail, is the only way you can ship internationally with tracking. But some countries simply won't allow those shipments.
And the hassle of dealing with problems if something goes wrong...
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this is incorrect information.
first of all, customs duties will be paid by the buyer when he receives the package. the seller won't even know how much will be paid.
second, you can ship overseas with any major courier like FedEx (i recommend), UPS, DHL and of course USPS which will then be handled by your local postal service.
about stuff going wrong (in the shipment phase) there isn't much if you pay with paypal and make sure the shipping is made via a trustworthy courier with a tracking number.
of course after you have got the phone, you'd be on your own if it has some problems but if you do it right the shipment shouldn't be that much of an issue

negri was out of stock so i just placed an order with canadagsm. camping ebay didn't work for me since i've already tried that one for some weeks.
as the story continues, i will post updates as others might be faced with the same situation

kilr00y said:
negri was out of stock so i just placed an order with canadagsm. camping ebay didn't work for me since i've already tried that one for some weeks.
as the story continues, i will post updates as others might be faced with the same situation
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What about a service like SHIPITO?
I am from Czech Rep and have a luck that many of my colleagues are flying to US on regular basis but this service could be used just for this very special purpose.

@fantomex:
yeah.. i stumbled over services like that and i'm considering it.
about canadagsm: i wrote a couple of mails with them back and forth about shipping and conditions and after everything was sorted out i told them that i would like to order. no answer from them now for 2 days. seems like it's back to the drawing board. :-/
found an ebay-seller who's willing to ship to germany, but auction is still up for 3 days... and dunno how that will turn out.
anybody can suggest more online stores that will ship to germany? spend an hour or two torturing google and co but it's hard getting any results since search results are filtered by location. and i guess i cannot deny my german IP ^ ^
found a couple of phone stores but they were either out of stock of didn't have the Relay listed at all.

weird that canadagsm stopped responding. anyway negri has written on its site that it is on backorder, and that they usually ship backordered items within few work days (they probably will just buy a phone then unlock and ship it) so i think you can try and ask them.
if you wanna go the ebay way, make sure you buy a perfect (mint) condition phone, no bad imei, and that the seller will ship with tracking to you. (and, ofc, paypal payment)

yeah.. it's weird about canadagsm.. took them an hour to reply to the initial mail. but now: nothing. already re-sent the mail twice..
will contact negri when i get home since the phone on ebay dissapeared without a trace all of a sudden..
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Hi
Ebay india has a sevice called 'global easybuy'. One can buy anything from ebay usa (irrespective of the seller ships internationally or not) and ebay will deliver to your doorstep. Shipping, customs etc charges are included at the time of payment and are quite nominal. Look for 'global easy buy' on ebay germany. Hope they have this service.

negri said: "we don't know. check our website for updates"...
i have found some forwarding services, but i don't feel to comfortable with it. none of them i ever heard of. don't consider it to be too safe at all with another anonymous person in the middle.
i'm on an ebay auction again atm which will end tomorrow. maybe i get lucky.
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hint: *cough* jbidwatcher *cough*

I'll ship you one if you paypal me the funds and agree not to sue me if the post office loses it. PM me.

thanks for the offer, nardholio, but i've got lucky on ebay. cell was $305, shipping was $45 via usps... and other means of shipping were clearly un-affordable.
brand new and sealed... and locked ^ ^ but that should be the least problem
let's see what the custom fee will be...
5 days and it made it to san francisco so far.. i guess that's why they call it "snail mail" ^ ^

it's here up and running cm10.1
spent another 50eur on customs. but... worth it
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OX Mobile Spy
I personally still relatively tend to eBay shopping, everything went smoothly, you can try.

Can customs charge me? HELP!!!!

Hi, my cosuin bought a note 3 for me from dubai (UAE). He then went to pakistan for a wedding and took the note 3 with him as my brother was also going pakistan at the same time so he could give it to him. If my cousin were to post the note 3 from paistan bought from dubai via fedex then can customs charge me in UK as it is not a purchase from pakistan?
Thanks

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I don't think customs would care about 1 unit....
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You don't need to report anything. Whoever is bringing your Note 3 doesnt have to mention "his" note 3 at all.
And even if someone do an checking your brother will say it's his private device... If you want to be 100% sure remove the Note from the box put the battery, add to your pocket and that's it.

You will be charged VAT and import duty and if you try and scam it they will confiscate your phone.
Good luck

My question is that when you purchase something outside of eu then uk adds vat on delivery. But if someone sends you something via post (not a purchase) can the uk add vat on delivery?

hayat55 said:
My question is that when you purchase something outside of eu then uk adds vat on delivery. But if someone sends you something via post (not a purchase) can the uk add vat on delivery?
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"Goods with a value exceeding £15, for commercial items including internet/mail order purchases, or £36 in the case of gifts between private individuals, are generally subject to Customs charges."
Have a look here for a bit more info. Hope this helps.
http://www.parcelforce.com/receiving-parcel/importing-uk/customs-charging

Tell him to take it out the box, and "Use" it, and just get him to send the empty box back. Customs are a bugger, I bought something then got a £130 Bill two weeks later.
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chrmit said:
"Goods with a value exceeding £15, for commercial items including internet/mail order purchases, or £36 in the case of gifts between private individuals, are generally subject to Customs charges."
Have a look here for a bit more info. Hope this helps.
http://www.parcelforce.com/receiving-parcel/importing-uk/customs-charging
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RavenY2K3 said:
Tell him to take it out the box, and "Use" it, and just get him to send the empty box back. Customs are a bugger, I bought something then got a £130 Bill two weeks later.
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What i mean is that if i ask him to post the phone unopened from Pakistan and because it is not a purchase from Pakistan then can customs still charge?

hayat55 said:
What i mean is that if i ask him to post the phone unopened from Pakistan and because it is not a purchase from Pakistan then can customs still charge?
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In the UK at least yes! That's why I said tell him to take it out of the box and make it look like it's his own personal phone, and just send t he empty box in the post.
My friend got hammered bringing an iPad into the UK and had to pay taxes, second time he brought another high value item back, he took it out the box, posted it to himself back home. This way it looks like he had the device before he left the country.
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hayat55 said:
What i mean is that if i ask him to post the phone unopened from Pakistan and because it is not a purchase from Pakistan then can customs still charge?
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As the goods are being sent from a country outside the EU then the answer is a straight yes. They can and will charge you the appropriate taxes. Some people would make a false claim on the paperwork stating the value as being lower and claiming the package contains something other that what is actually inside, but those people face the risk of being caught and fined or worse. On top of that, if the package got lost in transit there would be no hope of making a claim for compensation for the true value.

Just don't take the box, ship the box separately later on it he needs it and call it a day.

They can, and probably will, charge you. At 20%, there is too much cash there for them to waive it.
Here in Oz, anything under $1k is generally exempt, even for purchases. This probably saves a lot of work, but I'd also expect it to stop soon, especially if GST goes over 10% (I hope not).
I sent a laptop from my business address in Oz to my (same) business address in the UK. Customs tried to charge VAT @ 20%, even though it was obviously a used item, and actually several years old. It was cheaper to just ignore it and let FedEx ship it back, which is just stupid. Next time someone went to the UK, they took it as luggage instead.
I had the same issue sending 5 laptops (used for training) from the UK to Oz. Again, customs tried to charge, but I was able to prove that they were bought in Oz, and had GST fully paid. As far as I am aware, that is the only way to manage it.
So if you happened to have a UK receipt for that particular phone (and I'd never, ever suggest it might just be a receipt for any phone of the same model), you will probably be OK. Just tell them your cousin took it by mistake and is sending it back (a letter in the parcel could confirm this).

USA customs duty (if any) when getting phone from HongKong

Hello folks,
I was wondering if US customs hassled anyone when getting phone from HongKong/China through ebay or GearBest.
I am considering some off brand phone. I am not too sure yet if I will get it from Hong Kong or China or through which website. I would like to know if anybody paid more than what was asked at the respective website later due to the customs or something else. Every website says, there 'may' be an additional charge but other things I have gotten, have never been asked for anything more, but this is the first time getting a phone or such electronic device.
Many thanks in advance.

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fuzzychicken said:
Hello folks,
I was wondering if US customs hassled anyone when getting phone from HongKong/China through ebay or GearBest.
I am considering some off brand phone. I am not too sure yet if I will get it from Hong Kong or China or through which website. I would like to know if anybody paid more than what was asked at the respective website later due to the customs or something else. Every website says, there 'may' be an additional charge but other things I have gotten, have never been asked for anything more, but this is the first time getting a phone or such electronic device.
Many thanks in advance.
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Hi there,
Of course there will be an import charge of every things that gets posted outside the country. However you can buy the phone and then choose DHL and they will cover the import charge too. But there won't be any hidden charges as far as I know.

KIBS2173 said:
Hi there,
Of course there will be an import charge of every things that gets posted outside the country. However you can buy the phone and then choose DHL and they will cover the import charge too. But there won't be any hidden charges as far as I know.
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Thank you.
Do you have personal experience with this?
I ask because this is not the first order for me that is getting shipped from China or HK. As a matter of fact, some orders have been way more expensive than this and large in size but never have I been charged any customs duty. None of my orders were electronics though, hence I am curious.
With regards to DHL, again do you have experience of this? I don't know why a carrier would pay the customer's customs duty.

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fuzzychicken said:
Thank you.
Do you have personal experience with this?
I ask because this is not the first order for me that is getting shipped from China or HK. As a matter of fact, some orders have been way more expensive than this and large in size but never have I been charged any customs duty. None of my orders were electronics though, hence I am curious.
With regards to DHL, again do you have experience of this? I don't know why a carrier would pay the customer's customs duty.
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Hi there,
well I bought a phone from the UAE and I had to pay a VAT AT IMPORT 30.31 and an advanced payment 14.50 which a total of 44.81 .
so I was reading my old receipt it said and I quote " the value of the goods and freight must exceed 22 euro in order for VAT to be applied by Customs.
so basically each country has their own importing charge and in Ireland it is 23%. You can find more Details on the DHL website itself and also on any Delivery Service Website.

fuzzychicken said:
Hello folks,
I was wondering if US customs hassled anyone when getting phone from HongKong/China through ebay or GearBest.
I am considering some off brand phone. I am not too sure yet if I will get it from Hong Kong or China or through which website. I would like to know if anybody paid more than what was asked at the respective website later due to the customs or something else. Every website says, there 'may' be an additional charge but other things I have gotten, have never been asked for anything more, but this is the first time getting a phone or such electronic device.
Many thanks in advance.
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No, no hassle that I know of.
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Droidriven said:
No, no hassle that I know of.
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Hi there,
I will give you an example if you seen the youtuber EVERYTHINGAPPLEPRO he gets his fake iPhones and fake Samsungs from aliexpress and they are all from china and packed by DHL so no there won't be any hassle. EVERY DELIVERY SERVICE CHECK THE CONTENTS THROUGH X-RAY AND SEE IF THERE IS ANY DANGEROUS STUFF IF THERE IS THE COUNTRY WILL REJECT THAT ITEM AND SEND IT BACK TO THE SENDER. HOWEVER SINCE ITS AN ELECTRONIC DEVICE THERE WONT BE ANY PROBLEM