So today I updated my razr to the newest system version (9.18/79) without checking if i could unlock the bootloader (I know, that was stupid), which all research says I can't. Will a FDR allow me to unlock the bootloader once again? I bought the device in March of 2013, will doing so revert the OS as well as the data?
No, FDR won't allow you to do that. However, you can update to the 4.4 system version that ends in .10, root, and unlock. Don't update to .15 you'll be permanently stuck.
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RikRong said:
No, FDR won't allow you to do that. However, you can update to the 4.4 system version that ends in .10, root, and unlock. Don't update to .15 you'll be permanently stuck.
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Ok, thank you. How would I update to specifically the .10 version without going to .15?
You can use RSD lite to flash the file from here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=5 . I think the best option, though, is to follow this thread to update, root, and unlock. You'll need to register, but it'll be worth your time. http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/46155-rootunlock-442-1821834610-razr-hdm-only/
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I have been checking for updates over and over for the past 48 hours and gotten no update. I have heard that this is due to the fact that I unlocked my bootloader, even though I did nothing with it after that. I didn't even root it.
Can someone tell me how to lock the bootloader or which file I need to download to go back to the stock rom? This is starting to annoy me.
Did you even read the warning when unlocking the bootloader? It says you void your warranty and are running non stock firmware and will not receive updates. You have to manually update.
Also, you cannot re-lock the bootloader.
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turdbogls said:
Did you even read the warning when unlocking the bootloader? It says you void your warranty and are running non stock firmware and will not receive updates. You have to manually update.
Also, you cannot re-lock the bootloader.
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My whole point is that I did not run non-stock firmware. All I did was unlock the bootloader. I installed no roms, nor did I root.
I have read that if I flash back to the .29 stock rom it will re-lock the bootloader and allow me to receive updates.
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My whole point is that I did not run non-stock firmware. All I did was unlock the bootloader. I installed no roms, nor did I root.
I have read that if I flash back to the .29 stock rom it will re-lock the bootloader and allow me to receive updates.
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Even if you're running stock firmware, and not rooted, unlocking bootloader is still unlocking bootloader, and you DID unlock your bootloader, so you DON'T get OTA update. and there is NO WAY to re-lock the bootloader, even if you can re-lock it, asus still know your bootloader is unlocked, because when you used the bootloader unlock tool, it sent your tablet info (serial number i think) to asus server.
Sadly it is true no OTA JB for you.... but if your dead set on getting JB read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30404556
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nooktablet said:
Even if you're running stock firmware, and not rooted, unlocking bootloader is till unlocking bootloader, and you DID unlock your bootloader, so you DON'T get OTA update. and there is NO WAY to re-lock the bootloader, even if you can re-lock it, asus still know your bootloader is unlocked, because when you used the bootloader unlock tool, it sent your tablet info (serial number i think) to asus server.
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This.
And in Asus' eyes an unlocked bootloader is not stock firmware....even if it completely stock.
Also really flashing old firmware......if even possible......will not really lock your bootloader
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XperianceIT said:
Sadly it is true no OTA JB for you.... but if your dead set on getting JB read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30404556
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I was able to successfully update to Jelly Bean with this. Thanks!
How can i check if my bootloader is unlocked? Ever since i bought my tablet brand new i never got any ota updates.. had to do it manually all the time.
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bimmerboii said:
How can i check if my bootloader is unlocked? Ever since i bought my tablet brand new i never got any ota updates.. had to do it manually all the time.
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If you bought yours new not used then the bootloader should be locked
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If you bought yours new not used then the bootloader should be locked
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Yes i bought it brand new sealed. I dont understand why i never got ota updates..
Also whenever i click on "Check Update" it doesnt do anything. Not even a response saying no update available or anything like that.
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maybe it started to download some ota update and hanged without you noticing, lefting you in "limbo" - check if there is some file in /cache (you should be able to see it with esfile even without root, but you need root to do any change) or some log
I might be buying this instead of the M. But first, some questions.
1. When I first get it, will I be able to unlock and root it straight out of the box, with or without OTA update?
2. How good is the dev support for this phone?
I'll update this when I think of more.
Yes you can unlock the bootloader and root and and flash a recovery. And about Dev support well we just got official CM10.1 and PAC and alot of other roms.
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Yes you can unlock the bootloader and root and and flash a recovery. And about Dev support well we just got official CM10.1 and PAC and alot of other roms.
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Um, no, you can't unlock the bootloader anymore on the latest OTA. You can still get root by downgrading to a previous firmware and using Voodoo to protect root before upgrading again, but you will never be able to unlock the bootloader since the trusted zone partition can't be downgraded.
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Um, no, you can't unlock the bootloader anymore on the latest OTA. You can still get root by downgrading to a previous firmware and using Voodoo to protect root before upgrading again, but you will never be able to unlock the bootloader since the trusted zone partition can't be downgraded.
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So don't OTA when I first get it?
I mean, I'm fine with a non-unlockable bootloader. But if I have the choice to unlock it when it comes in, I won't be OTA-ing it. Speaking of which, whenever you activate the phone, doesn't it OTA?
Also, whenever I receive this what version will it be running on? And what version did they patch the bootloader method you guys were using? I'm not gonna be OTAing. And if activating the phone means OTAing, I'll unlock it prior to activation.
What you'll more than likely get from Verizon is a phone running the 4.1.2 firmware, build number starts with 9.16. This will be rootable, but you will not be able to unlock the bootloader. You will be asked to update with an OTA to firmware build number which starts with 9.18. You won't be able to root 9.18, but if you root on 9.16 first, use VooDoo OTA rootkeeper and then update, you should still be rooted on 9.18
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What you'll more than likely get from Verizon is a phone running the 4.1.2 firmware, build number starts with 9.16. This will be rootable, but you will not be able to unlock the bootloader. You will be asked to update with an OTA to firmware build number which starts with 9.18. You won't be able to root 9.18, but if you root on 9.16 first, use VooDoo OTA rootkeeper and then update, you should still be rooted on 9.18
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So anything before 9.16 and I should be good to go? Hopefully they don't ship it out with 9.16+
Actually, would it be possible to downgrade to below 9.16 whenever I get it?
I've been wanting to take the ota kit Kat version but scared if I take it I will loose root and my flash to Pageplus with 3g and mms working. have anyone took the update and still able to gain root access and Pageplus service with working 3g and mms?
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dextrickbell said:
I've been wanting to take the ota kit Kat version but scared if I take it I will loose root and my flash to Pageplus with 3g and mms working. have anyone took the update and still able to gain root access and Pageplus service with working 3g and mms?
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You will lose root, unless you are bootloader unlocked then you can flash su easily. No idea about Pageplus service, depends how you enabled it originally..
So is it possible to unlock my bootloader then take the ota update.
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dextrickbell said:
So is it possible to unlock my bootloader then take the ota update.
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You can't unlock your bootloader unless you have a dev device or XT925..if you don't have either of these then you'll have to wait until there is a method to keep root (if it's possible).
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You can't unlock your bootloader unless you have a dev device or XT925..if you don't have either of these then you'll have to wait until there is a method to keep root (if it's possible).
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Not entirely true. It you are on an XT926 non-dev device, you could still unlock the bootloader IF you haven't upgraded to any OTAs after version 9.16.6. If you've updated it via an OTA since that version, then no, you cannot unlock your bootloader. And downgrading back to 9.16.6 will not fix it. Once the OTA is applied, the exploit to unlock an XT926 is gone forever. It was the one and only chance of unlocking the phone. No other options exist unless Verizon allows it to be unlocked via the Motorola unlocker program, which I highly doubt will occur.
If you are still on 9.16.9 or earlier, then you can go here and try to unlock your bootloader -> http://vulnfactory.org/blog/2013/04/08/motorola-bootloader-unlocking/
You must be rooted in order to do this.
If you are on any of these versions, then you can no longer unlock your bootloader:
9.18.X
9.20.1
9.30.1
183.46.10 (KitKat)
Trying won't hurt anything. Worse comes to worse, you'll still have a locked bootloader. Best case scenario, you'll have an unlocked bootloader!
We've already had one success story since the OTA with a user who was able to unlock his bootloader, so you might be the same as long as you are on the version stated or earlier. He was and luckily, no later OTAs were applied, so he's now unlocked.
So i have a mini (i was told this was the current XDA for ultra/maxx/mini development and such) on 4.4.4 kitkat, latest OTA, and ive been wanting to root, SO much, but i cant downgrade. I used firmware from
forum.xda-developers{DOT}{COM}/showthread.php?t=2580060
But it didnt work, something about a gpt_main flash fail. Phone still works, etc, but no root, no unlock, nothing. Anyone know how i can downgrade?
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So i have a mini (i was told this was the current XDA for ultra/maxx/mini development and such) on 4.4.4 kitkat, latest OTA, and ive been wanting to root, SO much, but i cant downgrade. I used firmware from
forum.xda-developers{DOT}{COM}/showthread.php?t=2580060
But it didnt work, something about a gpt_main flash fail. Phone still works, etc, but no root, no unlock, nothing. Anyone know how i can downgrade?
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You can't. Period.
Should have researched. Your phone may very possibly brick when you take the next update.
Downgrading is a no-no. Not possible.
samwathegreat said:
You can't. Period.
Should have researched. Your phone may very possibly brick when you take the next update.
Downgrading is a no-no. Not possible.
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Really? I did it back on my bionic. Is there just no way to do so on the mini/maxx/ultra or in general there is no way to downgrade an android device?
Sirshark10 said:
Really? I did it back on my bionic. Is there just no way to do so on the mini/maxx/ultra or in general there is no way to downgrade an android device?
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Let me help you out. Reread the post below. That will answer your question.
samwathegreat said:
You can't. Period.
Should have researched. Your phone may very possibly brick when you take the next update.
Downgrading is a no-no. Not possible.
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But why exactly? I'm looking for an actual reason now. I was able to on my droid bionic a while back, why cant I on my droid mini?
Motorola signs OTA packages. The signature check fails because Moto simply doesn't want us downgrading.
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But why exactly? I'm looking for an actual reason now. I was able to on my droid bionic a while back, why cant I on my droid mini?
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I think, and I hope to get corrected if I'm not accurate, that downgrade is possible as long as bootloader stays the same version. Once the bootloader is upgraded, downgrading OS to a lover level will not be possible. Bootlader can remain the same version through multiple OS upgrades.
U can research for taobao boot loader unlock and that will allow you to unlock boot loader and gain root . but not a 100% sure thing but will cost ya 45 bucks if successful.
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With it being Black Friday, Verizon is selling the Pixel for a great price. I was wondering if it's possible to unlock the bootloader, flash a stock update from Google (not Verizon) to the phone, all while keeping Android Pay and being able to update the day a new update comes out? If this is possible how would I go about it? If I can't have Android Pay I can live without, but will I still be able to have the unlocked bootloader permanently along with the Google updates? Thank you! :good:
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With it being Black Friday, Verizon is selling the Pixel for a great price. I was wondering if it's possible to unlock the bootloader, flash a stock update from Google (not Verizon) to the phone, all while keeping Android Pay and being able to update the day a new update comes out? If this is possible how would I go about it? If I can't have Android Pay I can live without, but will I still be able to have the unlocked bootloader permanently along with the Google updates? Thank you! :good:
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No, no, no and no.
bobby janow said:
No, no, no and no.
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Was the bootloader unlock (dePixel8) patched?
Coronado is dead said:
Was the bootloader unlock (dePixel8) patched?
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Not sure, but I believe at some point it will be. This is not the device to buy if you want an unlocked bootloader with root.
I just joined the $240 Verizon Nexus Pixel club and have always unlocked, rooted and used custom Roms for every single device I've bought from Google. If there is an easy way to convert a Verizon Pixel to a Google Pixel I would be all over it. But maybe this is that one time that I'm going to stay stock.
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Was the bootloader unlock (dePixel8) patched?
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No, it hasn't been patched as of the November update. I took the update and unlocked with no problem. http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html Note that it says... "Unexpectedly, dePixel8 was not patched in NDE63X. Have fun". Do it now while you still can.
I can confirm that the Verizon Pixel can be unlocked. I got a 128gb today for $15/month. I have grandfathered unlimited data so this is the first Verizon promo phone I've bought in a while. Unlocked, flashed TWRP, rooted, and enabled tethering.
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I can confirm that the Verizon Pixel can be unlocked. I got a 128gb today for $15/month. I have grandfathered unlimited data so this is the first Verizon promo phone I've bought in a while. Unlocked, flashed TWRP, rooted, and enabled tethering.
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So how would one go about doing this? And would you have to relock the bootloader and unroot to update?
Just download and run DePixel8 to unlock.
Your phone should update if you don't flash any roms or mods. But that's no fun. You'll get updates quicker by installing them manually.
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joshw0000 said:
Just download and run DePixel8 to unlock.
Your phone should update if you don't flash any roms or mods. But that's no fun. You'll get updates quicker by installing them manually.
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Just a word of caution if you're going that route.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/how-to/psa-read-relocking-bootloader-t3494614
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Just a word of caution if you're going that route.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/how-to/psa-read-relocking-bootloader-t3494614
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Yes that's pretty common. Been that way since the original Nexus. You shouldn't ever re-lock unless you're returning for warranty. And if you do if should happen right after you flashed stock firmware.
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Yes that's pretty common. Been that way since the original Nexus. You shouldn't ever re-lock unless you're returning for warranty. And if you do if should happen right after you flashed stock firmware.
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No that's not correct. I unlocked, locked, unlocked and relocked my Nexus 5x recently. I was testing SafetyNet with an unlocked bootloader which failed all the time. So I finally relocked and left it that way. The Verizon Pixel is not like that. I think because you have to use a program to unlock and not just do it in bootloader.
However, you are correct in that you shouldn't relock your bl unless you have flashed the stock firmware, specifically recovery. Relocking and unlocking will wipe everything on your device, sdcard included.
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Just download and run DePixel8 to unlock.
Your phone should update if you don't flash any roms or mods. But that's no fun. You'll get updates quicker by installing them manually.
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Will I be able to flash updates all while keeping the bootloader unlocked? Or will updates relock my bootloader and soft brick my phone?
tidall said:
Will I be able to flash updates all while keeping the bootloader unlocked? Or will updates relock my bootloader and soft brick my phone?
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Updates won't relock.
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bobby janow said:
No that's not correct. I unlocked, locked, unlocked and relocked my Nexus 5x recently. I was testing SafetyNet with an unlocked bootloader which failed all the time. So I finally relocked and left it that way. The Verizon Pixel is not like that. I think because you have to use a program to unlock and not just do it in bootloader.
However, you are correct in that you shouldn't relock your bl unless you have flashed the stock firmware, specifically recovery. Relocking and unlocking will wipe everything on your device, sdcard included.
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I don't know for sure but I think the reasoning for not relocking is that Verizon/Google will likely patch the DePixel8 exploit in future builds.
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Just download and run DePixel8 to unlock.
Your phone should update if you don't flash any roms or mods. But that's no fun. You'll get updates quicker by installing them manually.
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Updates won't relock.
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I don't know for sure but I think the reasoning for not relocking is that Verizon/Google will likely patch the DePixel8 exploit in future builds.
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Where will I be able to download updates and how would I flash them? ( sorry for all the questions I haven't had an Android in a while )
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Where will I be able to download updates and how would I flash them? ( sorry for all the questions I haven't had an Android in a while )
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Here on XDA. Probably with Fsstboot.
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Here on XDA. Probably with Fsstboot.
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Would I download the Verizon version or just the completely stock Google version?