I shatter my glass screen even though screen protector on! - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi friends
I am complete upset. Today I wait for weeks for Nillkin glass screen protecter becauase fkn amazon ship it from china. I finally get today, and put it in the phone. Not one bubble friends! Very nice. Too bad because tonight, me and friends went to dancing club. I show them my z3 and tell them i install perfect screen protect with no one bubble! I prove to them that it works and drop phone on floor to show them phone is protect. When I drop, THESE PHONE GLASS SHATTER! Screen protector no work for me, now i have broke screen
Will sony give me refund if I say phone cracked on its own? I can say it bent like iphone so the screen cracked. No is my fault. What you please think?

Omg. Biggest facepalm ever. Screen protectors are supposed to protect it from scratches, not drops.

This is really very, very funny. For everybody but you of course.
LeBornJamesFan said:
Hi friends
I am complete upset. Today I wait for weeks for Nillkin glass screen protecter becauase fkn amazon ship it from china. I finally get today, and put it in the phone. Not one bubble friends! Very nice. Too bad because tonight, me and friends went to dancing club. I show them my z3 and tell them i install perfect screen protect with no one bubble! I prove to them that it works and drop phone on floor to show them phone is protect. When I drop, THESE PHONE GLASS SHATTER! Screen protector no work for me, now i have broke screen
Will sony give me refund if I say phone cracked on its own? I can say it bent like iphone so the screen cracked. No is my fault. What you please think?
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Wow, were you drinking??? Why would you drop your phone? A screen protector won't protect your phone from an impact like that. Good luck getting a replacement. Sony shouldn't give you another one, because it was YOUR fault!
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi4

Glass screen protectors are supposed to be quite sturdy though.
But still I wouldn't throw my phone on the floor on purpose...

killa78 said:
Glass screen protectors are supposed to be quite sturdy though.
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Well, yeah. The screen protector is probably fine! No bubbles, see?
OP, complain to both Sony and the people who sold you the screen protector, and please CC us in on it!

I remember doing a dropping test with my previous Xperia Z and a guy that had a galaxy s4. We dropped it on rock floor, NOTHING happened to my month old Z, he cracked his screen glass.
Typed on my Xperia Z3 while underwater.

Yeah screen protectors dont protect from drops. Hell the biggest cause of shattered screens comes from dropping a phone on its corner. Any phone is about as sturdy as a mirror.
This only guarrentee you can have are something like Otterboxes where they will replace your phone if it shatters.

I am certain it was a corner impact. No tempered glass protector will save you from a corner impact, which is where the glass is weakest and exposed (not covered), because all the force goes through a single point. Tempered glass will however do fairly well in a frontal impact where bit can absorb and more evenly distribute the force shattering only the protector.
I am pretty sure they can tell an impact shatter, probably some minor frame damage can be seen as proof. Even if it cracked due to a manufacturing defect it's hard to prove and Sony only replaces for a single fine crack if they deem it's their fault which is not often. You are out of luck.
I am sorry to say but you deserve it, you will be less careless next time. If you want to impress your friends with drop tests buy a Nokia 3310 a bit dated but it should serve your purpose well without any protector/case.

It'll still crack if it impacts on the edge.
I known you've seen tests with hammers and pointed objects.
But the protectors does not cover all the way to the edge, the edge is still very vulnerable.

this is just sad.... unless u put armen concrete around ur phone u wont save it from cracks or shattering glass... a thin piece of glass is not gonna protect it, nevertheless sony will easy see that there are dents on the aluminium bezels and know u dropped it

raviboy100 said:
this is just sad.... unless u put armen concrete around ur phone u wont save it from cracks or shattering glass... a thin piece of glass is not gonna protect it, nevertheless sony will easy see that there are dents on the aluminium bezels and know u dropped it
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Actually concrete wouldn't absorb shocks too well. Being a hard substance it would transfer all the impact energy into the phone encased within.

So this guy bought a z3 and the same day dropped the phone on purpose? Screen protectors that protect the z3? What the hell.... *I'm laughing near my little dog, and its look like "you have some problems man"

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[Q] How Scratch-Resistant is the NS glass?

Hey Guys,
as the topic says, I would like to know your expierences about the scratch-resistance of the Nexus S glass.
I couldnt find anything on the net about it, only some screen protector tests, which isnt the point.
So what do you think? Is the surface pretty sensetive, should I buy a screen protector?
Greets
No scientific test here but I've had my phone for nearly a month and keep it in my pocket with no case or screen protector. I have minor scratches on the plastic back but my screen is still flawless.
Yeah I´ve read alot about the batterycase and that it scratches pretty fast! Im gonna visist my girlfriend in UK and want to buy the Nexus S there. Its only available at carphone warehouse am I right? Do they sell the white version already?
Haven't seen the white version here yet and yes only carphone warehouse sells it in the UK.
I do not own the Nexus S, but as far as I can tell from the internet, the display is from glass. That means it is as scratch-resistant as any other phone with a glass display. Yes, including phones with Gorilla Glass. Gorilla Glass only prevents the display from cracking.
The battery cover, however, is another story. Plastic has it advantages (lighter, better if you drop your phone), but you'll probably get a lot of micro-scratches over time. No big scratches, just a couple of little ones.
So my advise is: don't buy a screen protector. If you really want it, go for a super clear one, like a Seidio USG Crystal Clear. At least they don't mess with the displays colours and with the feel of the glass.
But you may consider protection for the plastic back. You could spray PlastiDip on your battery cover, buy a case or keep your phone in a pouch.
The nexus s is very much sensitive to scratches. After having the phone for about a week, I noticed fine micro scratches. I'm very careful with my phone, so more than likely they came from taking it in and out of my pocket probably due to the rough fabric of my jeans. And no I don't keep any debris in my pocket while my phone is in there. My nexus one never developed those type of scratches and there were times when my N1 was placed in my pocket with coins! imho gorilla glass does make a world of difference when it comes to scratch resistance. The NS definitely needs a protector if you want to keep the screen pristine.
Sent from my Nexus S
princeasi said:
The nexus s is very much sensitive to scratches. After having the phone for about a week, I noticed fine micro scratches. I'm very careful with my phone, so more than likely they came from taking it in and out of my pocket probably due to the rough fabric of my jeans. And no I don't keep any debris in my pocket while my phone is in there. My nexus one never developed those type of scratches and there were times when my N1 was placed in my pocket with coins! imho gorilla glass does make a world of difference when it comes to scratch resistance. The NS definitely needs a protector if you want to keep the screen pristine.
Sent from my Nexus S
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I carried my NS in my pocket with my Zippo for a week and the screen never got scratched once. I'm having an issue seeing how a metal lighter case wouldn't scratch the screen but your jeans would? Unless your jeans are made of diamonds....
If you get scratches with your Nexus S, and not with your Nexus One, then you are just being unlucky. Gorilla Glass has nothing to do with it. Besides, the Nexus One also hasn't got Gorilla Glass.
That YOU get scratches on your display, doesn't mean it scratches very easily. And that you're very careful with it, also isn't an argument: as I said, sometimes it's just bad luck.
Please, anyone who wants to know if the Nexus S scratches easily (the display), ignore those 'the Nexus S scratches very easily compared to another device' replies.
Mine has not scratched on the screen at all. I typically leave it in my back jeans pocket. The black plastic has very tiny micro scratches that can only be seen at a certain angle from direct sunlight or fluorescent bulbs.
The only issue for me is the creakiness of the back cover. Whenever I press down on the plastic near the bottom and top sides of the phone it sounds like its crying out in pain =/
Androyed said:
If you get scratches with your Nexus S, and not with your Nexus One, then you are just being unlucky. Gorilla Glass has nothing to do with it. Besides, the Nexus One also hasn't got Gorilla Glass.
That YOU get scratches on your display, doesn't mean it scratches very easily. And that you're very careful with it, also isn't an argument: as I said, sometimes it's just bad luck.
Please, anyone who wants to know if the Nexus S scratches easily (the display), ignore those 'the Nexus S scratches very easily compared to another device' replies.
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I'm not gonna go back and forth with you on this topic but I will say this..... Honestly, I can care less about what happens to your device. Who ever chooses not to use a protector on their phone is their business, not mine! What I offered was my personal experience and advice to the one who asked for our input. Ok, so what if the N1 doesn't have gorilla glass. Whatever glass the N1 uses, is different from the NS and I know personally what happened to my NS and what didn't to my N1. I'm very finicky when it comes to scratches on my phones. Not once did I ever have to put a protector on my N1. Luck had nothing to do with my NS getting micro-scratches. It's has everything to do with the way the screen was manufactured and what rubbed against it through my everyday usage!
Sent from my Nexus S
kenvan19 said:
I carried my NS in my pocket with my Zippo for a week and the screen never got scratched once. I'm having an issue seeing how a metal lighter case wouldn't scratch the screen but your jeans would? Unless your jeans are made of diamonds....
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Quoted to reiterate the point. Glass I'd glass when it comes to scratches. Period.
Sent from 1.5GHz CM7 Nexus S.
EDIT: If you want a really scratch "resistent" (I say resistent because my wife is making me, I disagree) get someone to make a sapphire screen for your phone. Its common practice in high end watches and, as I own one, I can testify to its inability to scratch. I get quite a kick from taking some random very hard material and rubbing it against the face only to have it come out unscathed. The only issue that'd arise is if you scratched it with a diamond...then it would definitely scratch.
kenvan19 said:
I carried my NS in my pocket with my Zippo for a week and the screen never got scratched once. I'm having an issue seeing how a metal lighter case wouldn't scratch the screen but your jeans would? Unless your jeans are made of diamonds....
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I don't know exactly where the scratches came from. They could've gotten there from a hard dust particle rubbing against it while cleaning my screen. The scratches I had weren't deep scratches. They could only be seen at an angle when light hit it....If you're definitely sure of your screen, why don't you bless all of us with an uploaded personal video of the key test?!
Sent from my Nexus S
Lol guys come down .
So just to make it clear, the micro scratches on yr NS are on the back or on the display? Display right?
The point of my topic is just, that if I buy a nice phone like this I would like to use it as clean as possible, means only necessary accessories.
I had the Galaxy S before and Im gonna buy the NS now, before all of them the Desire. The problem is just that u always have to wrap the phone with stuff to make it "safer" and then u dont really see much of the design, the nice look of the phone, but it seems like this is just not possible right now .
Anyway I baught a silicon case so far, is there a good cheap screen protector on ebay or a brand u know?
And before I forget, I read that the NS has a "anti-fat" layer, so there arent really fat traces on the display, is this right? Would suck if yes, because its really annoying and I wouldnt like to lose this because of a screen protector .
Greets
The scratches I'm speaking on are on the display screen.
Sent from my Nexus S
Robse86 said:
Lol guys come down .
So just to make it clear, the micro scratches on yr NS are on the back or on the display? Display right?
The point of my topic is just, that if I buy a nice phone like this I would like to use it as clean as possible, means only necessary accessories.
I had the Galaxy S before and Im gonna buy the NS now, before all of them the Desire. The problem is just that u always have to wrap the phone with stuff to make it "safer" and then u dont really see much of the design, the nice look of the phone, but it seems like this is just not possible right now .
Anyway I baught a silicon case so far, is there a good cheap screen protector on ebay or a brand u know?
And before I forget, I read that the NS has a "anti-fat" layer, so there arent really fat traces on the display, is this right? Would suck if yes, because its really annoying and I wouldnt like to lose this because of a screen protector .
Greets
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Its suuuuuuuuper thin. I love it.
At the guy who got scratches on his screen. I still don't get it man. I cleaned my screen with a microfiber cloth two to three times a day before I got a screen protector. As I said, I carried it in my pocket with my lighter most times, but sometimes in the pocket with my change and still no scratches. Not to mention dropping it a few times. I just can't see how having it in your jeans could scratch it since I felt my lighter rub against my screen.
I'm not stupid though man, its f***ing glass. It'll scratch. But I've never seen glass scratch from jeans. Its just not nearly abrasive enough.
kenvan19 said:
Its suuuuuuuuper thin. I love it.
At the guy who got scratches on his screen. I still don't get it man. I cleaned my screen with a microfiber cloth two to three times a day before I got a screen protector. As I said, I carried it in my pocket with my lighter most times, but sometimes in the pocket with my change and still no scratches. Not to mention dropping it a few times. I just can't see how having it in your jeans could scratch it since I felt my lighter rub against my screen.
I'm not stupid though man, its f***ing glass. It'll scratch. But I've never seen glass scratch from jeans. Its just not nearly abrasive enough.
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Then do a f**kin lighter test then. Rub that sh!t against your NS display screen and post the f**kin video lmmfao! Let us all see just how lighter resistant your NS is! That would be interesting to watch lolll!
Sent from my Nexus S
kenvan19 said:
Its suuuuuuuuper thin. I love it.
At the guy who got scratches on his screen. I still don't get it man. I cleaned my screen with a microfiber cloth two to three times a day before I got a screen protector. As I said, I carried it in my pocket with my lighter most times, but sometimes in the pocket with my change and still no scratches. Not to mention dropping it a few times. I just can't see how having it in your jeans could scratch it since I felt my lighter rub against my screen.
I'm not stupid though man, its f***ing glass. It'll scratch. But I've never seen glass scratch from jeans. Its just not nearly abrasive enough.
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Thin? The phone or the screen protector ? Well well then I have to buy a screen protector , is there a good one ?
I've had my NS for over a month. It has never seen a case. It's been in pants with keys, in pants with an un-cased iPhone 4, in pants with change, in jackets with keys and change, in a courrier bag with keys, change, a sharp metal mini-hard drive enclosure and dropped onto pavement a few times. The screen is absolutely scratch free.
There is a TINY bit of visible wear on the plastic back - especially at the very top and the very bottom, which are the leading edges when inserting and withdrawing it from a pocket.
One thing that has not been extensively examined so far - the "contour" display on the NS puts the entire face under more compression load when static, meaning that it will be MUCH harder to fracture, and therefore scratch, for a given strength of glass, since compression is where glass is strong.
Also, here is a little lesson on Gorilla Glass and any hardened glass. They are chemically treated to better resist surface flaws by creating compression in the surface of the glass. For Gorilla Glass, Corning starts with already-more-durable alumosilicate glass, and then uses their proprietary treatment it to better resist surface fracturing by penetrating more deeply than "traditional" glass hardening treatments on soda-lime glass - this means that, while you can still scratch it, the glass won't fracture as much around the contact, so you won't be able to see it as much. All of this is available on Corning's website.
For points of reference, here are my last 4 phones, their relative abuse states and what I saw out of them:
NS - one month+, hard use including travel, abuse my 2 and 3 year old kids, my daily high-speed bike commute over cobbled parisien streets, etc. Zero screen scratches. Oleophobic treatment seems to be holding up better than Apple's examples.
iPhone 4 - 4 months hard use as a phone, 2 more moderate use as a super-duper high-end iPod touch. Several very tiny scratches on the screen, and numerous tiny scratches on the back, then the screen shattered in the pocket of my jeans alone sometime on a transatlantic flight. I replaced the front and back with the "acquired" real Apple iPhone 4 white components someone stole out of Shenzen and sold through a site in NYC. One month light iPod use since, no marks.
N1 - 5 months as primary phone, then a 4 month break, then almost 2 more months as a phone when, battery be damned, I could no longer support the crappy mail and chat on the iPhone 4. It suffered very heavy use and abuse, including NUMEROUS hard drops and falls onto pavement and stone thanks to kids. The metal frame around the screen is VERY beaten up, and the edge has even cracked slightly on the screen from the compression around the metal edge, but the screen itself has no scratches.
Milestone (euro version of the Droid, complete with Gorilla Glass) - primary phone for about 3 months, and it had a long scratch down the face less than a month after buying it. But in this case, I know EXACTLY when it happened. It was in my wife's jacket pocket, and she gored it with diamond ring.
Finally, I don't think that anyone really KNOWS what glass is used in the Nexus S except for Samsung (and their provider, if there is one). I know that the Galaxy S, Epic, Vibrant, Continium, Captivate, and many other Samsung phones do use Corning's baby. I also know that many other products use it without mentioning it. I know that the iPhone claims not to, but that it does use some specially-treated alumosilicate glass.
princeasi said:
Then do a f**kin lighter test then. Rub that sh!t against your NS display screen and post the f**kin video lmmfao! Let us all see just how lighter resistant your NS is! That would be interesting to watch lolll!
Sent from my Nexus S
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Better yet why don't I do a jeans test to see how stupid you are.
big_adventure said:
I've had my NS for over a month. It has never seen a case. It's been in pants with keys, in pants with an un-cased iPhone 4, in pants with change, in jackets with keys and change, in a courrier bag with keys, change, a sharp metal mini-hard drive enclosure and dropped onto pavement a few times. The screen is absolutely scratch free.
There is a TINY bit of visible wear on the plastic back - especially at the very top and the very bottom, which are the leading edges when inserting and withdrawing it from a pocket.
One thing that has not been extensively examined so far - the "contour" display on the NS puts the entire face under more compression load when static, meaning that it will be MUCH harder to fracture, and therefore scratch, for a given strength of glass, since compression is where glass is strong.
Also, here is a little lesson on Gorilla Glass and any hardened glass. They are chemically treated to better resist surface flaws by creating compression in the surface of the glass. For Gorilla Glass, Corning starts with already-more-durable alumosilicate glass, and then uses their proprietary treatment it to better resist surface fracturing by penetrating more deeply than "traditional" glass hardening treatments on soda-lime glass - this means that, while you can still scratch it, the glass won't fracture as much around the contact, so you won't be able to see it as much. All of this is available on Corning's website.
For points of reference, here are my last 4 phones, their relative abuse states and what I saw out of them:
NS - one month+, hard use including travel, abuse my 2 and 3 year old kids, my daily high-speed bike commute over cobbled parisien streets, etc. Zero screen scratches. Oleophobic treatment seems to be holding up better than Apple's examples.
iPhone 4 - 4 months hard use as a phone, 2 more moderate use as a super-duper high-end iPod touch. Several very tiny scratches on the screen, and numerous tiny scratches on the back, then the screen shattered in the pocket of my jeans alone sometime on a transatlantic flight. I replaced the front and back with the "acquired" real Apple iPhone 4 white components someone stole out of Shenzen and sold through a site in NYC. One month light iPod use since, no marks.
N1 - 5 months as primary phone, then a 4 month break, then almost 2 more months as a phone when, battery be damned, I could no longer support the crappy mail and chat on the iPhone 4. It suffered very heavy use and abuse, including NUMEROUS hard drops and falls onto pavement and stone thanks to kids. The metal frame around the screen is VERY beaten up, and the edge has even cracked slightly on the screen from the compression around the metal edge, but the screen itself has no scratches.
Milestone (euro version of the Droid, complete with Gorilla Glass) - primary phone for about 3 months, and it had a long scratch down the face less than a month after buying it. But in this case, I know EXACTLY when it happened. It was in my wife's jacket pocket, and she gored it with diamond ring.
Finally, I don't think that anyone really KNOWS what glass is used in the Nexus S except for Samsung (and their provider, if there is one). I know that the Galaxy S, Epic, Vibrant, Continium, Captivate, and many other Samsung phones do use Corning's baby. I also know that many other products use it without mentioning it. I know that the iPhone claims not to, but that it does use some specially-treated alumosilicate glass.
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Robse86, listen to this guy. He knows what he is talking about. A screen protector isn't really necessary. That doesn't mean the screen can't be scratched, so don't blame us when it does scratch. You should consider a case, if you don't like the micro-scratches that often appear on the battery cover.
Anyway, listen to big_adventure.

Screen protectors? Gorilla glass?

A long time ago I saw news for this phone that it uses gorilla glass.. is it true?
Because I just got the phone and the screen protector on it sucks. Thick, a bit fuzzy, and makes it less sensitive. I am seriously tempted to pull it off right now.
Has anyone gone without screen protectors? and how are your screens?
Gorilla glass or not, it's still wise to put a layer of protection on the display. It is scratch resistant but not scratch proof.
Am using a matte, anti-fingerprint screen protector and have no problem with screen sensitivity.
some say yes, some say no...
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HTC: [...] Desire S
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i would say yes
Last year while skiing I fell tearing open my jacket and spilling my HTC Hero onto the slope (unannounced to me) where it slid down the piste face down until a kindly Spaniard found it and returned it to me.
The body itself all around the screen had been ground away, but the entirely unprotected screen was utterly untouched.
Within moments of getting my Desire S up and running I had it knocked out of my hand by a friendly dog, it landed face down in gravel. Once again there was not a mark on it.
The only time I should have used a screen protector was on my old P800 with its soft resistive screen.
The moral of the story, screen protectors for capacitive screens are the biggest con in the world. Just don't keep your phone in a bag full of diamonds or anything.
DanAbnornal said:
Just don't keep your phone in a bag full of diamonds or anything.
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or sand for that matter. sand is tougher than gorilla glass and it WILL scrach your screen. id actually say you are lucky that your desire s was ok after that gravel fall
DanAbnornal said:
Just don't keep your phone in a bag full of diamonds or anything.
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with a bag full of diamonds who would bother with a scratch to the screen of the damn phone
titus1 said:
Gorilla glass or not, it's still wise to put a layer of protection on the display. It is scratch resistant but not scratch proof.
Am using a matte, anti-fingerprint screen protector and have no problem with screen sensitivity.
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Out of interest which protector are you using?
wow, that post and story makes me want to rip the screen protector off even more. other than seeing a lot of cracked screens, i havent really heard off scratched htc screens.
videos like this help too:
http://techielobang.com/blog/2009/1...-test-for-htc-hd2-feel-the-pain-video-within/
but i guess it's this paranoia.. one scratch will ruin it forever..
i disagree, i was realy carefull not to sscratch my phone around the house why i was waiting for my screen protector off ebay, but ive ended up with a hairline scratch on the screen. You can only see it at certain angles and when a protector on you cant see it but i would recomend a screen protector to keep it safe as the smallest thing can ruin it.
I'm a nudist. Trusted Gorilla Glass on my previous Nokia C6-01. And trusting it on the Desire S. I don't have a protector case either.
When I moved from resistive touch sensors (Windows Mobile) to capacitive (HTC Hero), I stopped using screen protectors. Well, it turns out that the screen doesn't scratch badly, it's very tough, but after months using it hairline scratches do appear, although they are only visible with the light at certain angle.
So I once again I use screen protectors. This way when it's time to sell my current device to get a new one, the screen is 100% perfect. And I don't worry much if I have to clean the screen with my shirt.
I just bought invisiblesheild from zagg.com. I also got a 25% voucher if anyone wants it? not sure if it includes all items in store
however the contact actually covers the camera and sensor/light which does worry me a bit. I was given a chinese brand one which had a dip so the film didnt cover the camera. but it was crap, but the design was better
amonrei said:
I'm a nudist. Trusted Gorilla Glass on my previous Nokia C6-01. And trusting it on the Desire S. I don't have a protector case either.
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Totally with you on the protector case as well. Why buy a beautiful slim phone and then make it fat and ugly by fitting a case?
That said, I have ordered a case but intend to treat it like a condom and only put it on when I need it.
That way, next time I try to impress a girl by falling face first down a mountain, my phone at least will remain unblemished.
C'mon people, liberate yourselves, take it all off! Your phone is a beautiful thing, don't hide it away!
Buy a sock... or some small bag. I don't really see any reason to have it packed when you are using it (if you are not playing sports with it).
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Buy a sock... or some small bag. I don't really see any reason to have it packed when you are using it (if you are not playing sports with it).
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I find that the best advice for phone protection is simply not to use the device when you had a few beers (or several!)
I have two scratches on the outside of my desire s and both are caused by drinking related accidents! I see a direct correlation between phone damage and UK bank holidays !
Luckily the curved raised lower lip of this phone means that when dropped you have to be quite unlucky to scratch its face!
it sure has gorilla glass as you can find in the official site of gorilla glass
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Out of interest which protector are you using?
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Just a generic matte screen protector
i found a test about the hardness of the screen on mp3 players i think it may be useful as i have seen many people asking if a screen protector is required
http://anythingbutipod.com/2009/04/glass-screen-durability-test-a-lesson-on-the-mohs-hardness-scale/
i myself use a screen protector as i am scared that sand may scratch it...
but mine does not reduce the touch sensitivity or the clearness of the screen but it seems to be a fingerprint magnet...
iv seen a hammer and a knife ....
ITS ALLMOST UNBREAKABLE Gorilla glass.
search youtube .... its there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjNm47eUXno&feature=BFp&list=WL2C734E80889271C9&index=1
lol I went without screen protectors for a couple for weeks. was very happy, the screen looked vibrant and sharp.
but lo and behold! today I found a tiny scratch. Probably my own stupid mistake, I put it in my bag without the case, even though i had a case for it in the bag.
but it's ok though. Not really obvious unless you try to look for it. when the screen is lit up, its pretty much nonexistent. Plus.. electronic objects will go out of date someday right

Screen protector needed?

I'm so fed up with these things. I know for a fact that I can't install them on my own, so I have Verizon AND BestBuy give it a go, and they still always leave dirt under it.
So I wanna know if there's ANY chance of the Gorilla Glass getting scratches. I mean even a LITTLE scratch, because I'm crazy about that stuff. Is it possible for sand or dirt or something to scratch the screen?
Please voice your opinions ASAP. I wanna throw this thing back in BestBuy's face.
jason2302 said:
I'm so fed up with these things. I know for a fact that I can't install them on my own, so I have Verizon AND BestBuy give it a go, and they still always leave dirt under it.
So I wanna know if there's ANY chance of the Gorilla Glass getting scratches. I mean even a LITTLE scratch, because I'm crazy about that stuff. Is it possible for sand or dirt or something to scratch the screen?
Please voice your opinions ASAP. I wanna throw this thing back in BestBuy's face.
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I feel your pain, I thought the girl at Best Buy did a nice job installing the Zagg until I got home and noticed a speck of dust smack dab in the middle of the screen.
I should bring it back and have another one put on, but just haven't yet.
brian1972ct said:
I feel your pain, I thought the girl at Best Buy did a nice job installing the Zagg until I got home and noticed a speck of dust smack dab in the middle of the screen.
I should bring it back and have another one put on, but just haven't yet.
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If I decide to keep a protector on, I'm just gonna leave it how it is. I go back to BesBuy every day because they don't know how to do it, and it's getting played out.
You guys gotta start by washing your hands. Then clean the screen with a lint free cloth. Then take your time and check the screen over and over for specks. With the zagg you have to wet your fingers thoroughly take battery out before doing anything and replace back cover. Spray both sides of the screen protector and start at the top and lay it down. Peel it up until it's right. Re wet if needed! It's sloppy at first. Squeegee away from openings until the big bubbles are gone. Little ones will remain until the next day. Once dry. It's amazing and worth it. Soak up the remainder water with a cloth and leave it off with no battery for a few hours or so. Hope this helps guys. I literally just did this last night. Zagg replaces them too for life. You pay shipping. Worth it imo.
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This is my third phone with Gorilla Glass. I do keep my phone always in my left pocket and nothing else in that pocket ever, and the phone screen always facing in toward my leg.
But having said that, I don't use a screen protector and haven't had the first bit of a scratch on any of these phones. Hope that helps.
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This is my third phone with Gorilla Glass. I do keep my phone always in my left pocket and nothing else in that pocket ever, and the phone screen always facing in toward my leg.
But having said that, I don't use a screen protector and haven't had the first bit of a scratch on any of these phones. Hope that helps.
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Certainly gave me confidence.
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Certainly gave me confidence.
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This is my 2nd Gorilla Glass phone, had the Fascinate before. NOTHING scratches these phones. I mean if you have a pocket full of wood screws and rocks then maybe you'll get a couple scratches but these phones are meant to not need the plastic piece of crap protectors. They even look ugly too. The only thing I ever got to scratch the glass was a box cutter.... yeah...
You don't need it.
chaddymoff said:
This is my third phone with Gorilla Glass. I do keep my phone always in my left pocket and nothing else in that pocket ever, and the phone screen always facing in toward my leg.
But having said that, I don't use a screen protector and haven't had the first bit of a scratch on any of these phones. Hope that helps.
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Same here. Second phone with gorilla glass. I'm sure you could scratch it if you really tried but I have never had a problem.
I have had several phones and all of them with out any screen protectors and haven't had any issues. Keys normally end up in the same pocket as my phone. Gorilla Glass is great stuff.
I think the main reason for using the screen protector is more for anti-glare or to repel finger prints etc.
-Penta
I went to my mall because Ghost Armor had a kiosk near the verizon store in there. paid the $50 total for the full body skin and install and I tell you, it is worth the money to have it put on professionally, well closest to professional hahaha. PLUS, now I have lifetime replacement so long as I go there and the damaged skin is on it just pay them the $15 install fee for full body or $10 for front screen only and you are set!
the screen does NOT feel like there is a skin on it. smooth and clear
I had a Sprint Evo before with Gorrila glass and I scratched it. I had my ear buds in my pocket with it and the jack made a 1 inch scratch near the center. From then on I always use a screen protector.
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I've used my fascinate naked for a while, always careful with it and put it in my pocket facing my leg. Then one day a .2mm scratch came out of nowhere, probably from a spec of sand in my pocket. Sure, it will handle most of everyday materials, but if you're OCD about having a perfect screen, and a little scratch happens, will always be in the back of your mind. Better safe then sorry. Nothing is really un-scratchable unless it's diamond or crystal sapphire. Only materials with hardness greater than or equal to can scratch other materials. Here's a hardness scale just for fun!
Talc
Gypsum (fingernail at 2.5)
Calcite (copper - old penny at 3.5)
Fluorite
Apatite (window glass or typical knife blade at under 5.5)
Orthoclase (good steel file at over 6.5)
Quartz
Topaz
Corundum (sapphire, ruby)
Diamond
I buy protectors in packs of 5 becasue I never get it the first time. I've used skins from best skins ever on my BBs but they would always end up peeling. I have a friend that installs clearbras on cars and have gotten material from him but even with being super anal on the install it will end up peeling. I would love to have a nice skin and drop the cases but I haven't found a good one yet. The Storm2 I had before had a skin from best skins ever and took a few knocks without issue so I'm not worried about the charge.
Farabomb said:
I buy protectors in packs of 5 becasue I never get it the first time. I've used skins from best skins ever on my BBs but they would always end up peeling. I have a friend that installs clearbras on cars and have gotten material from him but even with being super anal on the install it will end up peeling. I would love to have a nice skin and drop the cases but I haven't found a good one yet. The Storm2 I had before had a skin from best skins ever and took a few knocks without issue so I'm not worried about the charge.
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have you tried the wrapsol covering..I saw it at my local Walmart of all places
I hate the way screen protectors feel and look on a phone. I always feel like I'm losing screen clarity so I keep my Charge without a screen protector. I make sure to never put it in the same pocket as my keys however. While my Charge has zero scratches so far, my fascinate got one scratch when I had it in the pocket with my keys.
Basically if you go without a screen protector you have to be able to accept the fact that you probably WILL get a tiny scratch on it. It is difficult to do but possible. But would you rather deal with screen protectors all the time or deal with a tiny scratch? It all depends on what is worse to you.
I would rather not use one but I'm one of those guys that would go crazy if that big, beautiful screen was scratched.
I used the "Realook" screen protectors on my fassy and will probably use them on my charge after I receive it Monday. They cover the entire screen and don't affect picture quality at all. There is hardly any difference in feel and they hold up very well over time.
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On my Fascinate and my Charge I use these... http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
I like the ultra clear as they feel like glass and puts my mind at ease. Just my 2 cents.
WTB diamond screen protector.
I use the steinheil screen protectors. I had one on my fascinate since it came out and had some small scratches on it. I just ordered one for my charge and should be here this week.
And my wife's is in even better condition than mine and had it just as long.
http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Its worth the $14 dollars. Also if you look in their ebay store they have them with free shipping.

[Q] Why do my GG devices scratch so damn easily?

My first gorilla glass device was a zune HD and it didn't have any noticeable scratches on it for a month, but after that there were some damn big noticeable ones. Now I've had my samsung infuse less than a month and it's got about 5 scratches, 3 of which are easily noticeable in most conditions. Is it just me or is gorilla glass complete bullcrap? Yes I'll admit I had an iPod touch for about 6 months and the screen NEVER scratched after all the drops, kicks, and touches. But it was a piece of crap and so is Crapple so I gave it to one of my friends who I think destroyed it for fun(lol).
My pockets never have ANYTHING in them, no money, no sand, no dirt, no keys, not even headphones. So why the hell is gorilla glass scratching like plastic? I swear the plastic case I got with it has only twice as many scratches.. Now every time I put my phone in my pocket I turn the pocket inside out and smack it a few times to get any hard-to-see particles out... but there's really nothing in my pockets. It's also got a few chips like someone poked it with a nail really hard.
I should also mention my friend with an atrix looks like someone stabbed it with a knife after only being in a pocket in a briefcase with a fabric wallet (no buttons or any metal edges).
nothing is perfect,i using screen protector on all my device.
i dont believe manufacturer
Yeah I'd have a screen protector on it but I need to wait until my friend gets his new job at this place with a clean room so there's no dust or any crap floating around, it's impossible to apply it in a house without dust getting on. I already wasted $10 on a pack of them, I'm not even going to order until I'm sure I can get somewhere with a clean room, maybe intel's manufacturing facility
Gorilla Glass =/ diamond?
Use a good quality Matte-finish screen protector or a tempered glass one. They are much less prone to scratches from fine particles. Ever used a device that was NOT gorilla glass They looked like a post-war battlefield in just a few weeks. Nothings perfect though, which is why even gorillas are prone to scratching
BTW Which device are you using?
I said samsung infuse but I didn't capitalize it because I'm lazy. lol
this morning it looked like someone had took sandpaper to butter... I HAD to run out, pseudo-cleanroom my bathroom, and put a screen protector on.

Screen Protector vs. No Screen Protector

When I first got my first A2, the rep at best buy put on the screen protector before I left the store... (keep in mind that this is my first "smart" phone of any kind, let alone android) ..so, I had never really known it without a screen guard/shield/protector until I got my 2nd A2 (and, subsequently 3rd).
The 2nd A2 I knew was temporary because of a dead pixel in the center of the screen (and other signs of refurbishment), so I never bothered putting on a screen guard. And with my 3rd A2 and I still haven't put one on - I have a brand new Zagg Invisible Shield just laying there, but it been over 2 months... And, I gotta say I like it much better.
Now this can all depend on the shield you use, but without a shield, the touch seems more responsive, the screen crisper, it's easier to clean...
I have a nice case that is raised a bit on the topside edges to help protect, and I never put anything else in the same pocket as my phone...
I know it's risky, but don't we have Corning Gorilla Glass already? Can you scratch that? And I do eventually have a contract upgrade coming anyway..
Thoughts? Preferences? Keep your minds out of the gutters..
I had a screen protector when I first bought the phone, and I got annoyed with it. The screen was dimmer, but the screen was less prone to finger prints. I still have it as it's reusable, but I left it in the car in the Florida heat, so the layers of it are peeling off. My screen also jumps and stutters when it's plugged in and fully charged to 100%. I should probably buy another one to preserve the screen seeing as how I don't upgrade until May.
alteredlikeness said:
I have a nice case that is raised a bit on the topside edges to help protect, and I never put anything else in the same pocket as my phone...
I know it's risky, but don't we have Corning Gorilla Glass already? Can you scratch that? And I do eventually have a contract upgrade coming anyway..
Thoughts? Preferences? Keep your minds out of the gutters..
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I have to agree with you. I personally was super paranoid about scratching my screen and so I put shields from various companies on my screen to help protect it. The screen guard got dirty and so I took it off, and I love not having the screen guard on because of the reasons you stated.
I am pretty sure our phone comes with gorilla glass, but it isn't invincible. I have a scratch on my screen but it isn't noticeable when using the phone just when the screen is off. But I guess just keep it safe in a pocket that you don't have anything in and don't have sand chillin' in your pocket.
I've had this phone for almost a year and I didn't start using a screen protector until a couple of months ago. For some reason the screen on this phone scratches easier than my Captivate. I keep them in my pocket but the Atrix 2 has accumulated quite a few small scratches near the bottom of the screen and around the buttons.
I would rather not use one, but I would like this phone to last a while, even as a back up. I've tried several protectors and I've settled on the Great Shield clear protectors. You can get 3 for $7.99 on Amazon and they install easy and are pretty durable. You can also take them off, clean them and reinstall them without losing any adhesive properties.
i had a anti-glare screen guard which i used for 6months and one day due to some expt i was doing on my phone with skins it got off. havent put one back, have just one tiny 1mm scratch which is visible only if you look at it tangentially. have to say the colors look more vibrant and the touch is more responsive (might be due to OC and cm10).
Anyways, i have a case with raised edges, same as altered described, and i take extra care of my phone now. but since im keeping this phone for another year n a half atleast, will definitely get a new screen guard, (maybe one without the anti-glare effect, if i find one) cause gorilla glass Is prone to scratches.
Real men dont use protection...
Stay classy.
Initially I didnt use any "protection" LOL, but had two tiny scratches on the screen. Yes, it does catch scratches easily compared my previous devices, I tried these 1. Amzer anti-glare, will be good for 1/2 months then you will hate it, 2. Amzer Mirror Screenguard, gave me migraine (literally!) 3. Right now having Xtremeguard on it and like it.
There are basically two reasons why I get the screen protectors, to protect the screen obviously and the screen without protector is too slick for my liking, that's just my opinion.
My first A2 went from release day to this September when it bricked and was replaced. In that time frame i had only acquired 2 micro scratches never had a screen protector on it nor do I have one on my replacement. Also the glass is coated it's that coating that is scratch resistant. Watch this
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-t...ass-drops-tests-composition-xda-developer-tv/
I have a serious thing against screen protectors and cases. I prefer my phone to be naked.
Screen protectors, no matter what you people say, make the screen worse in some way. The display is made to work well alone. They just all suck, and if you ever want it off, in a lot of cases, god help you, especially with self adhesive ones. They do however help prevent scratches, because you will just scratch the screen protector instead of the screen, so if that is important, you may want to consider it.
Cases, now this is just opinion. There is no doubt that they help prevent your phone from breaking, I just absolutely hate them. I don't like to bulk up my phone and make it ugly.
All that said, I take very good care of my phone. I have never dropped it, and I doubt I will, so there is no need for a case if you are careful.
P.S. yeah, gorilla glass is a joke, it still scratches. Just has a slightly higher hardness, and wont break as easy, but coins or keys will still do their job the same.
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Real men dont use protection...
Stay classy.
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First up I feel like a dunce picking up that Skinomi worth 7 green skins sucks bad bad. Totally not recommended.
Gorilla glass is in iteration 2 of implementation so that speaks for itself about our ver 1. Plus there is no Oleophobic coating on our device. I invested a massive 20 + $ greenbacks on Otterbox and though no complaints with usability it sure makes the phone bulky and downright fugly. None of the screen guards last more than three months until you need to put a new one.
In India, given the extreme dusty atmosphere in cities, a small two hour ride in public transport coats the phone with dust. Otterbox covers the all ports with covers so that's good. In my opinion just a slip in/out elegant pouch is the best option. Screenguard I reckon is required. Wish 3M made the privacy screen protector for Atrix 2.

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