[Q][Can you run KitKat apps on Lollipop] - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know its a very basic and stupid question but i had never came across a situation where i get to upgrade the OS over an alphabet
So the question is - Will i be able to install and run the apks of apps that are extracted while running KitKat on Lollipop?

Meuuks13 said:
I know its a very basic and stupid question but i had never came across a situation where i get to upgrade the OS over an alphabet
So the question is - Will i be able to install and run the apks of apps that are extracted while running KitKat on Lollipop?
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Of course. If they killed retrocompatibility, hell would break loose. Or at least angry costumers.

tatazeuz said:
Of course. If they killed retrocompatibility, hell would break loose. Or at least angry costumers.
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I am not talking about backward compatibility..
For example - If I extract the apk of xyz app and save it to some cloud while running KtKat. Then i upgrade to Lollipop and download that apk from cloud and install it while running Lollipop.

Meuuks13 said:
I am not talking about backward compatibility..
For example - If I extract the apk of xyz app and save it to some cloud while running KtKat. Then i upgrade to Lollipop and download that apk from cloud and install it while running Lollipop.
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That's backwards compatibility. And yes, the APK should work perfectly.

Ohh..ok..my bad.. But then why are some apps adding in their deception whelther Lollipop is supported of not?

As far as I know not all apps support ART right now, so if you have some app that only runs with dalvik it may not be compatible with Lollipop

Farming Simulator 13
Hi. I tried to run farming simulator 13 on lollipop but the app seems to work only on kitkat. Is it possibpe to run this app on lollipop, even knowing that the app is not compatible?

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Device memory almost full

Hi,
I see same Threads talking about swap external to internal memory, but I'm not sure is that what i need
There some apps that insist on staying in the phone memory (device memory), and are not movable. Is there any way to force them to go to the sd card? or install them directly to the sd card?
I try app2sd, foldermount and link2sd without success.
Xperia L c2105 rooted JB 4.2.2 15.3.A.1.17
Thanks
elcalimero said:
Hi,
I see same Threads talking about swap external to internal memory, but I'm not sure is that what i need
There some apps that insist on staying in the phone memory (device memory), and are not movable. Is there any way to force them to go to the sd card? or install them directly to the sd card?
I try app2sd, foldermount and link2sd without success.
Xperia L c2105 rooted JB 4.2.2 15.3.A.1.17
Thanks
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If you don't need them and you know, that they are not important to Android OS you can delete them by using Root Explorer. At "/System/App" are all these apps.
Kosa02 said:
If you don't need them and you know, that they are not important to Android OS you can delete them by using Root Explorer. At "/System/App" are all these apps.
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Hi Kosa02, Thanks for help.
I already delete all apps i don´t need or not use, even those who are pre installed on android. Still overloaded. some programs like XMBC, facebook, chrome and google+, use to much device memory, and are not movable...
elcalimero said:
Hi Kosa02, Thanks for help.
I already delete all apps i don´t need or not use, even those who are pre installed on android. Still overloaded. some programs like XMBC, facebook, chrome and google+, use to much device memory, and are not movable...
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My pleasure
As you say, I also delete every app like Facebook, G+ or else.. I don't need them and they slow down the device and drains baterry.
Kosa02 said:
My pleasure
As you say, I also delete every app like Facebook, G+ or else.. I don't need them and they slow down the device and drains baterry.
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First time after i do fresh flash for stock rom is to delete the facebook app. No.1 battery eater..... most useless app ever.
Hey guys same problem of low internal memory in xperia l non rooted. Any suggestions? I do not want to root it. Any way around this problem?
Sent from my moto g
vuk030 said:
First time after i do fresh flash for stock rom is to delete the facebook app. No.1 battery eater..... most useless app ever.
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Hi
What kind of room are you using? Everything works without bugs?
I see some rom in this forum, they look very good, but I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject, I'm afraid to try.
Thanks
elcalimero said:
Hi
What kind of room are you using? Everything works without bugs?
I see some rom in this forum, they look very good, but I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject, I'm afraid to try.
Thanks
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If you are curious of experiancing the kitkat feel of your android then you will unlock your bootloader and flash 4.4 roms (Cyanogenmod,Carbon)
And if you are just satisfield with your current (stock rom) then you wont find anything new in here.
Example.... for me on start it was a massive improvement when i flashed new KK 4.4 CM mod on my xperia l....but then....it all start going downfall..
There are some current bugs (and new bugs keep popping on with every new nightly release) that i simply can not swallow.
Bugs such as phone hanging,battery draining faster (due google service app...i heard it has been fixed by updating PA GApps),gps problem (was fixed,now it back again for some ppl), worse camera then on stock sony (NO.1 minus feature for me its all blurry and off focus for me),some apps are not supported on playstore,graphical processing bugs,mic disortion/echo problems when you are talking with someone,can't change volume while you in conversation with someone.....
Because of these ,,little,, things im back on stock (.17) rom and things are far more stable for me.
Only downside on stock rom for me is memory issues...kitkat is much cleaner with this.Runs excellent.
So yeah......it comes down to your personal prefrences.
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Aj_dev20 said:
Hey guys same problem of low internal memory in xperia l non rooted. Any suggestions? I do not want to root it. Any way around this problem?
Sent from my moto g
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A way around is to update it to kitkat cusrom rom.
No other way....
vuk030 said:
If you are curious of experiancing the kitkat feel of your android then you will unlock your bootloader and flash 4.4 roms (Cyanogenmod,Carbon)
And if you are just satisfield with your current (stock rom) then you wont find anything new in here.
Example.... for me on start it was a massive improvement when i flashed new KK 4.4 CM mod on my xperia l....but then....it all start going downfall..
There are some current bugs (and new bugs keep popping on with every new nightly release) that i simply can not swallow.
Bugs such as phone hanging,battery draining faster (due google service app...i heard it has been fixed by updating PA GApps),gps problem (was fixed,now it back again for some ppl), worse camera then on stock sony (NO.1 minus feature for me its all blurry and off focus for me),some apps are not supported on playstore,graphical processing bugs,mic disortion/echo problems when you are talking with someone,can't change volume while you in conversation with someone.....
Because of these ,,little,, things im back on stock (.17) rom and things are far more stable for me.
Only downside on stock rom for me is memory issues...kitkat is much cleaner with this.Runs excellent.
So yeah......it comes down to your personal prefrences.
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A way around is to update it to kitkat cusrom rom.
No other way....
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The KK room you are using, gps bug are fixed? (i work a lot with gps). It is simple to update?
It's hard for go back to the original room?
I don't find the threat in xperia L for this rom
Thanks
(c2105 JB 4.2.2 15.3.A.1.17 rooted)
elcalimero said:
The KK room you are using, gps bug are fixed? (i work a lot with gps). It is simple to update?
It's hard for go back to the original room?
I don't find the threat in xperia L for this rom
Thanks
(c2105 JB 4.2.2 15.3.A.1.17 rooted)
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I WAS using custom roms but now im back on stock rom also.
The thread is called original android development...its on main page for xperia L (scroll down)
It's not hard to get back on stock rom. You just need to flash the proper firmware with sony xperia'r flashtool program. (there is tutorial for that)
Kosa02 said:
My pleasure
As you say, I also delete every app like Facebook, G+ or else.. I don't need them and they slow down the device and drains baterry.
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I alredy remove facebook, google +, play game, (with flash tool) but i can't remove play newsstand, smart conect, google, news & weather, suporte and google deting :crying:
elcalimero said:
I alredy remove facebook, google +, play game, (with flash tool) but i can't remove play newsstand, smart conect, google, news & weather, suporte and google deting :crying:
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How did you deleted it by flashtool? I use everytime Root Explorer to delete it but you have to be on rooted ROM.
Kosa02 said:
How did you deleted it by flashtool? I use everytime Root Explorer to delete it but you have to be on rooted ROM.
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Hmmmm, what i m doing wrong...
Flash tool, clean room, select apps i don't want, and clean... Is that wrong??
elcalimero said:
Hmmmm, what i m doing wrong...
Flash tool, clean room, select apps i don't want, and clean... Is that wrong??
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I guess nothing, I just never heard about it.

Stagefright patch for kitkat

Has Google put out a stagefright patch for kitkat yet?
Thanks.
Anderson2 said:
Has Google put out a stagefright patch for kitkat yet?
Thanks.
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I don't think they will. We should in theory be using lollipop by now, so why bother?
So, I will rephrase it. Has Google put out a stagefright patch for 5.1.1?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...my48i-factory-images-for-seven-nexus-devices/
I would be much more interested if we see a flashable zip file of the updated files for Lollipop users, as I don't want to dirty flash or start from scratch with setting up my device. It's just a huge PITA.
JonesL said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...my48i-factory-images-for-seven-nexus-devices/
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Thank you very much. That's very helpful.
My nexus 5 is rooted and has xposed installed. Would flashing these new factory images mean I would have to reinstall my apps etc?
I notice they seem to have patched versions of both kitkat and lollipop which is nice of Google.
I do agree that just a zip file of the patch would have been easier for some of us.
slixzen said:
I would be much more interested if we see a flashable zip file of the updated files for Lollipop users, as I don't want to dirty flash or start from scratch with setting up my device. It's just a huge PITA.
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Copy/paste/reboot works.
CM patched libs (not flashable) http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/android-bug-security-risk-t3167127
remove hangouts from you're phone, and use a different messeging app, i use textra it has stagefright protection
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
Switching your SMS/MMS client doesn't protect you. Stagefright can be exploited in other apps and Web browsers you use. Upgrade to Lollipop and get it patched at a system level.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Wakamatsu said:
Copy/paste/reboot works.
CM patched libs (not flashable) http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/android-bug-security-risk-t3167127
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Where do l copy these files to?
irononreverse said:
Where do l copy these files to?
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/system/lib
Change the permissions to 644, if needed, then reboot.
Test with https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zimperium.stagefrightdetector
libs for CM11 Kitkat 4.4.4 also needed as none are found for legacy devices such as Skyrocket S2, S3, etc.
ocd_amp said:
libs for CM11 Kitkat 4.4.4 also needed as none are found for legacy devices such as Skyrocket S2, S3, etc.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62346687&postcount=5337
Works for KK 4.4.4 on MTK 6752 Lenovo A936!!!
All credits to DerTeufel1980!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62347446&postcount=5339

YouTube Kids app icon missing in launcher

as im not in one of those YT Kids app supported regions, i installed the app with APK (from apkmirror.com) and enjoyed it for over a year already.. however, today suddenly i realised that the app icon disappeared in my launcher drawer.. it was there a few hours ago and in between the period i didnt reboot the phone, didnt install or update any app, didnt touch any files in my phone..
i checked "/data/app" directory, and there was the "com.google.android.apps.youtube.kids-1" directory with all files intact.. i tried to re-install the apk and it went without any problem.. and there was a new "/data/app/com.google.android.apps.youtube.kids-2" directory created with all files same as the previous installation.. but the app icon just did not appear in the drawer..
i tried to switch to the stock launcher, and the app icon was still missing..
now im out of ideas for what could go wrong.. any suggestion for me?
tia..
Same thing happend to me (Samsung Galaxy Tab A, Stock 7.0), nu luck with previous versions of Youtube Kids either..
Same here. Galaxy S8. What has happened? Maybe recent Google instant app has something to do with it ?
Hi, same issue here on a Lenovo tablet and Galaxy S7, both running android 7.x. App appears to be gone from the app list and only by installing an app uninstaller i am able to remove it. Same problem when trying to install older versions of the YT Kids. I can install but i can't run it or see it in the app list.
On an older device runing kitkat the icon is still there with no problems, so i would guess this may be a new feature on the google services or so. They may now be enforcing regional limitations. Any info on that?
Unfortunately same thing here. Samsung tab A 2016 !
Same hete, but went here https://kids.youtube.com
Clicked to get it then app store opened he app and was able to enable it
nieXas said:
Same hete, but went here https://kids.youtube.com
Clicked to get it then app store opened he app and was able to enable it
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it still redirects to play store, and thus app availability is still subject to regions..
I can only confirm the problem ( Galaxy A5 2017 running Nougat)
Seems like a server side or Nougat upgrade issue.
I have exactly same symptoms. app icon is missing, side-loaded app installs but does not register properly so it does not appear in app list, and can be uninstalled only with third party app (e.g. ES File explorer)
Hope there will be a solution to run YT Kids once again in regions where it's not officially supported.
Hopefully someone can make a modded apk version without a region check.
Frits0702 said:
Hopefully someone can make a modded apk version without a region check.
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i dont think the check is done in the app itself, probably its done in the framework..
cos i have not updated the app, and suddenly it went from working to disappearance, so i guess something in the underlying google framework changed..
Okay, so maybe someone knows a simular app. I didn't found one yet, after ours of searching and installing
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I installed a lot of different versions of yt kids and sometimes he wil open after installation and after a few second he stopps working. But the icon never apears from two weeks ago. The disapearing happend on the same day by my phone, from my wifes phone and my mother in laws phone?
Yeah, sad Google starts to execute regional restrictions more strictly. :crying:
The latest version 2.28.14 have new logo but won't run although it installs almost fine except no icon.
Therefore you should use 3rd party app to uninstall defunct app (e.g. ES File Explorer).
It seems it's gone for good. Check thread below:
productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/youtube/5optbz-1m4U
Is there a workaround?
vukis said:
Is there a workaround?
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maybe using a vpn works, but thats too much trouble to me.. gave up using the app already..
vukis said:
Is there a workaround?
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Yes. Downgrade your os to MM and down. And will work. On Nougat it's not working.
Azzureux said:
Yes. Downgrade your os to MM and down. And will work. On Nougat it's not working.
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nope its neither working in my device running marshmallow..
iamelton said:
nope its neither working in my device running marshmallow..
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I have tested in on 3 devices and its working:
S3 mini - android 4.1 stock - YTKIDS working
Tab 3 8" - android 4.2 stock - YTKIDS working
P8 lite - android 6 stock - YTKIDS working
P9 lite 2017 - android 7 stock - YTKIDS not working
So... Must be something with the Nougat that blocks YouTube kids.
Azzureux said:
I have tested in on 3 devices and its working:
S3 mini - android 4.1 stock - YTKIDS working
Tab 3 8" - android 4.2 stock - YTKIDS working
P8 lite - android 6 stock - YTKIDS working
P9 lite 2017 - android 7 stock - YTKIDS not working
So... Must be something with the Nougat that blocks YouTube kids.
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thx ic..
It is firmware related. I have TAB S2 for my daughter with Nougat and on previous version of firmware YK works OK - installed from APK mirror, but updated firmware (just new version - still Nougat 7.0) deletes icon from launcher
So, anyone found a solution to this, same here Samsung galaxy Tab A8 2017, and Note 8
it seems it is because of Android N

Android Go for our device?

https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/...ry-level-phones-launches-tomorrow-android-8-1
will be able to use the Go edition of Oreo on devices with 512MB to 1GB of system memory. Many of these phones have as little as 8GB of internal space, so the operating system with optimized apps takes up half as much space.
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I hope we can use this Go on our beloved device someday. :good:
Yeah this would be great. The lack of RAM really kills the photon q
Man I was just gonna open a thread about this
...oreo, or oreo go is same os. so is needed classic oreo based rom like lineage and turn off some graphics etc with script/install zip and install GO apks.
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-oreo-android-go-low-ram-patcher/
some go apks works on 7.x too....just for testing
palmwangja said:
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/...ry-level-phones-launches-tomorrow-android-8-1
I hope we can use this Go on our beloved device someday. :good:
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Why? Oreo is bad enough, this is just a crippled version of it. Why even bother with Android? once we get alien dalvik working on Sailfish OS we'll be good for the next 3 years at least

Where can I find a working GCam apk for Tmobile s6 running 7.0?

I had a google cam app installed for the longest time that ran flawlessly, it was a joy to use. I deleted it to install an updated version and my decision has been the bane of my existence since. I've tried various nougat apks and most crash while a few will run but will not perform the blur effect as my original install had done.
Can you help? Thank you.
midwest77 said:
I had a google cam app installed for the longest time that ran flawlessly, it was a joy to use. I deleted it to install an updated version and my decision has been the bane of my existence since. I've tried various nougat apks and most crash while a few will run but will not perform the blur effect as my original install had done.
Can you help? Thank you.
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Check the thread here in XdA app they have updates one I have one on s6 7.0 and works like charm no need to pay for pirtraimode camera anymore

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