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"Google latitude" :firmware update soon?

latitude, the new google services to know where your frineds are say we will have a new update soon that will include maps v3.0.
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=136640
"- Android-powered devices with Maps v3.0 and above. G1 users in the US will be receiving Maps v3.0 in a system update soon. "
is the RC33 include maps 3.0, or they are talking about "CUPCAKE" ??

personally i think that rc33 was sent because of the option to check for updates manually. that leads to the conclusion that google is the one responsible for the updates. which leads to the conclusion that there might be a HUGE update comming soon. i would say a month or two.... is it going to be the cupcake? i dont know but i think its going to be a major one

One of the mods on the official tmob forum posted some screen shots of Latitude in RC33.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=87&message.id=31086

wimbet said:
One of the mods on the official tmob forum posted some screen shots of Latitude in RC33.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=87&message.id=31086
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yeah that post is gone.

TimSykes said:
yeah that post is gone.
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The thread got merged with another but I found it. Towards the bottom...
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/boa...thread.id=31078&view=by_date_ascending&page=5

just seen this on drudgereport
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009...zmos/main4774320.shtml?tag=topHome;topStories

TimSykes said:
yeah that post is gone.
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RC33 - Firmware ver. 1.1

I don't think this feature is going to help battery life.

i don't think any feature will ever increase battery life =/
not that it really matters. extended battery's are a godsend.

Whats the difference between this and loopt?

samysam05 said:
Whats the difference between this and loopt?
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AFAIK, nothing. the plus is that, eventually, any phone with gps and google maps can use it (computers get in on the action too).

This uses cell-ID which is a general vicinity obtained from ur cell tower's signal. Most of the time, unless you explicitly turn it off, it's on by default. This does not drain much of your batter and is definitely much less than using the actual GPS chip.

ArronL said:
This uses cell-ID which is a general vicinity obtained from ur cell tower's signal. Most of the time, unless you explicitly turn it off, it's on by default. This does not drain much of your batter and is definitely much less than using the actual GPS chip.
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besides that everything else is pretty much the same.... ok.

the advantace that this will have over loopt is that google will be rolling it out to a lot more phone platforms than Loopt is currently on.

makes me think about "big brother is watching" when i read about this app.... i won't be getting it....

MontAlbert said:
makes me think about "big brother is watching" when i read about this app.... i won't be getting it....
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Haha you won't be getting it? Looks like big brother is gonna bend you over & force you to get it! From what I've read, its gonna be part of google maps, correct? You have no choice. When you update to RC33 or whichever update it comes with, your gonna have it next time you open your maps app

jojo_angelov said:
personally i think that rc33 was sent because of the option to check for updates manually. that leads to the conclusion that google is the one responsible for the updates. which leads to the conclusion that there might be a HUGE update comming soon. i would say a month or two.... is it going to be the cupcake? i dont know but i think its going to be a major one
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I wanna believe that this is more than just a tiny taste from google. Part of me thinks that this update is as much about "fixing bugs" as it is building some behind the scenes framework for cupcake.
To me this make sense, upgrade some code now and get everything in place, such as the manually check for updates, to reduce the size of the next install...
I would love to belive that this is true...and part of me thinks we could see it soon.
Mobile World Congress starts on Feb 16th-19th, Google, T-mobile, HTC are all scheduled th be there...could be a coincidence, could not be. Just like the fact that RC33 will be rolled out between Feb 5th and 15th...so everyone should have it by the time MWC rolls around. Again...likely? No. Could it happen? Yes.

MontAlbert said:
makes me think about "big brother is watching" when i read about this app.... i won't be getting it....
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Big brother already can, has been, and unless we enact legislation to limit their power, will be watching!
Having one less app on your phone won't prevent them from tapping in to the carriers networks and yoinking your approximate positioning info (with CDMA triangulation its almost as good as standalone GPS; TDMA/GSM its within 50 meters or so--and yes, WCDMA/3G falls under CDMA..In fact, CDMA relies on GPS and GPS is code-division with spreading and walsh codes and everything...read into it, its interesting stuff)
I say screw it, let me see where my friends are; Big Brother will ALWAYS know where YOU are, unless you pull the battery.

yeah after 9/11 there was legislation that passed that every Cell phone sold in the US needs to have a GPS type of system in it. I think thats were A-GPS came around. But I could be wrong.

mystica555 said:
CDMA relies on GPS and GPS is code-division with spreading and walsh codes and everything.
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CDMA = Code Division Multiple Access
GPS = Global Positioning System
CDMA doesn't use GPS at all
The other way round, it would kinda make sense as GPS uses orthogonal codes (but who doesn't these days...)
TimSykes said:
yeah after 9/11 there was legislation that passed that every Cell phone sold in the US needs to have a GPS type of system in it. I think thats were A-GPS came around. But I could be wrong
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And indeed... you are. Don't belive the stuff they tell you on 24

Don't shoot the messenger!*!*!

Ok guys so I might not seem "reputable" Ive always been more of an observer of the forums..instead of putting my 2cents in about everything..yes I work for a T-Mobile authorized dealer for the past 3yrs..4yrs @ Verizon b4 this.. every so often LG/Samsung/Nokia reps stop in.. today it was LG who I haven't seen since the g2x launch.. obviously I asked questions.. he told me that the g2x was written w/code for 2.3 to be updated soon after release.. the problem was the code was written wrong..and thats why the phone reboots..because it thinks theres an update so it shuts down..and it took an extremely long time to find where the problem was and write proper code.. they didn't want to take the chance of releasing an update without being 100% sure, obviously consumers wouldn't be happy with a faulty update..he continued to say it is absolutely a software issue..he also said the update will be in two parts.. the 1st is a software patch to fix the reboot issue and the 2nd is gingerbread. He took down my email address so he can send me the update when he gets it next week..so that way reps can test it out and start pushing it in stores.. in my opinion I don't see the update coming in the next few weeks to customers if an LG reps g2x isn't even updated yet..and is barely starting to roll out for reps to test out.. sorry for the long post..and once again..DONT SHOOT THE MESSENGER! LOL
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Bang!!! Sorry had tooo

Cool if it's true, meh if it's not.

The only ones I trust less than CSR (as they are just telling all of us what they are told to say) is reps.... sorry just like salesmen if there mouths are moving they are lying.

Just putting this out there...I talked to the lawyer from the class action lawsuit. Its very legit. With that hitting Tmobile/LG if there ever was a real update(and I don't think there was) I bet it is now going to be even slower getting to us.
Sent from my minor screen bleeding,random rebooting lg made g2x.

sabo2000 said:
The only ones I trust less than CSR (as they are just telling all of us what they are told to say) is reps.... sorry just like salesmen if there mouths are moving they are lying.
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I definitely understand where your coming from..just wanted to pass on info.. but more then anything..I'm a customer as well..and I can't speak for any rep, but the only way I've been successful in sales for the past 7yrs is by being honest
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I am rep for technical care and I am currently testing the 2.3 rom on my personal G2X. From what I can tell so far, it is pretty much in the same state + some stability improvements that came with the leaked rom a couple months ago.

Hopefully this update won't mess up with my non-reboot G2x.
Seems like baseband patch first and OS the next.

Adam7986 said:
I am rep for technical care and I am currently testing the 2.3 rom on my personal G2X. From what I can tell so far, it is pretty much in the same state + some stability improvements that came with the leaked rom a couple months ago.
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what is the version number? v21?

why would we shoot
deadeye0908 said:
Ok guys so I might not seem "reputable" Ive always been more of an observer of the forums..instead of putting my 2cents in about everything..yes I work for a T-Mobile authorized dealer for the past 3yrs..4yrs @ Verizon b4 this.. every so often LG/Samsung/Nokia reps stop in.. today it was LG who I haven't seen since the g2x launch.. obviously I asked questions.. he told me that the g2x was written w/code for 2.3 to be updated soon after release.. the problem was the code was written wrong..and thats why the phone reboots..because it thinks theres an update so it shuts down..and it took an extremely long time to find where the problem was and write proper code.. they didn't want to take the chance of releasing an update without being 100% sure, obviously consumers wouldn't be happy with a faulty update..he continued to say it is absolutely a software issue..he also said the update will be in two parts.. the 1st is a software patch to fix the reboot issue and the 2nd is gingerbread. He took down my email address so he can send me the update when he gets it next week..so that way reps can test it out and start pushing it in stores.. in my opinion I don't see the update coming in the next few weeks to customers if an LG reps g2x isn't even updated yet..and is barely starting to roll out for reps to test out.. sorry for the long post..and once again..DONT SHOOT THE MESSENGER! LOL
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actually this makes sense.
1) people who have said their phones said there was an update after phone rebooted .. this has been mentioned several times so that part makes sense.
2) you are the second person from a different source today to mention an update for next week.
obviously its probably just getting to tmobile next week but at least thats something.
Let us know how it goes. if you dont see an internal update by next week than well know thats its probably not trust worthy. but what he said makes sense regarding the update stuff.
and hopefully the gb update fixes gps and wifi
thanks man at least its something.

Adam7986 said:
I am rep for technical care and I am currently testing the 2.3 rom on my personal G2X. From what I can tell so far, it is pretty much in the same state + some stability improvements that came with the leaked rom a couple months ago.
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Does it have the LG camera in it?
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htc2364 said:
Does it have the LG camera in it?
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No, which leads me to believe it is still the same update and I am desperately hoping I get that camera back because the stock camera is terrible.

richteralan said:
what is the version number? v21?
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Officially it is listed as V21e

@OP
Makes some sense, but at this point its just another rumor.
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Adam7986 said:
Officially it is listed as V21e
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Guess a lot of things fixed since the leak (v20n).

richteralan said:
Guess a lot of things fixed since the leak (v20n).
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I can say my battery life appears to be better, no random reboots yet.
I've also previously experienced what I call hibernate which is where I have to press the power key 12 times to unlock the screen. Seems to run a bit smoother as well.
Problems so far are the camera sucks now. When the screen goes to standby after I load a webpage and I unlock the screen, it reverts to the previous page.
I have had a few occasions where I have had to click a link like 10 times to get data to load the page. That all I've notices so far within the 24 hours I've been running the update.

Adam7986 said:
I can say my battery life appears to be better, no random reboots yet.
I've also previously experienced what I call hibernate which is where I have to press the power key 12 times to unlock the screen. Seems to run a bit smoother as well.
Problems so far are the camera sucks now. When the screen goes to standby after I load a webpage and I unlock the screen, it reverts to the previous page.
I have had a few occasions where I have had to click a link like 10 times to get data to load the page. That all I've notices so far within the 24 hours I've been running the update.
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This is not good. I havent got these problems with my current version.
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gps and wifi
Adam7986 said:
I can say my battery life appears to be better, no random reboots yet.
I've also previously experienced what I call hibernate which is where I have to press the power key 12 times to unlock the screen. Seems to run a bit smoother as well.
Problems so far are the camera sucks now. When the screen goes to standby after I load a webpage and I unlock the screen, it reverts to the previous page.
I have had a few occasions where I have had to click a link like 10 times to get data to load the page. That all I've notices so far within the 24 hours I've been running the update.
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do gps and wifi appear to be working ?
thanks for the info

richteralan said:
This is not good. I havent got these problems with my current version.
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Keep in mind this is a trial update to see what bugs we find, still in testing. Should be fixed by the time the actual update rolls out. I hope at least.

eagle1967 said:
do gps and wifi appear to be working ?
thanks for the info
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Just curious what is this GPS WiFi problems ?
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Nobody talk about April update?

Hello,
just received it this morning, there is stability fix this time

Brother GPS is not working april update (
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If you want to see tens of useless threads about April update (exactly like this one), just head over to MIUI forum.
GPS is working fine, locked in less than 10 seconds and I'm in the building right now.

- GPS: No issues what so ever, works flawlessly.
- Charging time: Whoever sits and clocks the charging time really must GET A LIFE!

No one cares except Xiaomi is being a cuunt for not already releasing 8.1 .

Have You seen release plan for 8.1?? AFAIK thats not published yest so You can scream as much as You like.
Yes it will probably come within next 3-5 updates but as for now You can either wait or go for Custom ROM...
That kind of insults are actually pretty pointless and quite childish to see over and over again, and absolutely for no good to anyone.
Or You think that Xiaomi will hurry up because You wrote that?

Thread closed
Further discussions here please
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/how-to/february-update-t3743872

upgrade to android 11 or stay on 10

it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
Just look at xda's complaint on scooped storage
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-11-features-developers-new-apis/

gloege said:
it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
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I'm going to upgrade ASAP, never had any issues with the upgrades and I've been in android since 2009.

update to 11 with no second thoughts

Upgrade. No 2nd thoughts about it.

ggrant3876 said:
I'm going to upgrade ASAP, never had any issues with the upgrades and I've been in android since 2009.
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Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage

gloege said:
Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage
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I did and as I said I've never had any issues with an update in 11 years. I'm sure Sammy will have it figured out before they release it. All my phones have been rooted until the Note 7, and you take more chance flashing a rom written by some dev than an update from a major player.

ggrant3876 said:
I did and as I said I've never had any issues with an update in 11 years. I'm sure Sammy will have it figured out before they release it. All my phones have been rooted until the Note 7, and you take more chance flashing a rom written by some dev than an update from a major player.
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But samsung does not work or develop the third party apps or what not that you install on your phone. Any unsupported app you use will likely be crippled(heard that loading times can be 100× longer to start the app) and any dev too aggravated to to fix it may stop supporting his or her project. Also most devs have not even cought up to android 10. Yea i hope to many update and google learns their error in this mess

gloege said:
But samsung does not work or develop the third party apps or what not that you install on your phone. Any unsupported app you use will likely be crippled(heard that loading times can be 100× longer to start the app) and any dev too aggravated to to fix it may stop supporting his or her project. Also most devs have not even cought up to android 10. Yea i hope to many update and google learns their error in this mess
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If it does happen and I seriously doubt it, I'll just reflash with odin and restore my backup. My glass is half full, not half empty. I have friends on other forums running 11 beta on Pixels with no issues.

Am I in a pixel or oneplus thread? Note 20 ultra users most likely get Android 11 before March 2021 and chances are that any kinks should be ironed out by then. I don't understand why this conversation needs to happen this early.
Edit: https://www.phonearena.com/news/sam...-android-11-update-one-ui-3-t-mobile_id127042
Guess I stand corrected! One Ui 3.0 AKA Android 11 is already in Beta in South Korea and coming to T-mobile according to this article.
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gloege said:
it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
Just look at xda's complaint on scooped storage
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-11-features-developers-new-apis/
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I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
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Am I in a pixel or oneplus thread? Note 20 ultra users most likely get Android 11 before March 2021 and chances are that any kinks should be ironed out by then. I don't understand why this conversation needs to happen this early.
Edit: https://www.phonearena.com/news/sam...-android-11-update-one-ui-3-t-mobile_id127042
Guess I stand corrected! One Ui 3.0 AKA Android 11 is already in Beta in South Korea and coming to T-mobile according to this article.
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Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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Guess you just lucked out. But i try not to be the one stuck with a dodgy os. When they updated to android 5 no phone would run my fave application and then the android 5 memory leak. Not to mention other things os updates can bring untill they fix them. And that is googles fault not the phone maker

gloege said:
Guess you just lucked out. But i try not to be the one stuck with a dodgy os. When they updated to android 5 no phone would run my fave application and then the android 5 memory leak. Not to mention other things os updates can bring untill they fix them. And that is googles fault not the phone maker
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LOL. I don't think I lucked out. I think issues with OS updates are far less common than you think. I'd say you are definitely in the minority.
I've been on Android since the original Moto Droid. I've had almost every Moto, LG, Samsung, Nexus, and Pixel. I've been through beta OS updates, official updates, side loaded updates, unofficial ported updates, you name it.
You're going back 5 YEARS and saying because an update broke your favorite application, that Google/Samsung updates too often? Is every update perfect? No, but they certainly don't break everything the way you think they do.

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Android updates on Samsung phones are always an anti-climax. Samsung tend to have implemented all the best features that a new Android update brings already. What you end up with is a range of bugs or security features that break your apps. I will always go for the update that's offered but I am not excited about it or bothered if there's a delay in any roll outs.
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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No you are absolutely right. I'm out in Canada and if memory serves me right we got Android 10 at the beginning of January a month or so after the US. It was the years prior that the OS update came out with the S series release. And to your point Samsung has stepped up their game, tremendously. It's right after the Pixels and Oneplus which is not too shabby. And getting faster to boot. No complaints here. :good:
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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Yeah, Note10+ got Android 10 in December I believe. Definitely was super fast compared to Note9 getting Android 9 (February/March).
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Android updates on Samsung phones are always an anti-climax. Samsung tend to have implemented all the best features that a new Android update brings already. What you end up with is a range of bugs or security features that break your apps. I will always go for the update that's offered but I am not excited about it or bothered if there's a delay in any roll outs.
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So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.

PsiPhiDan said:
Yeah, Note10+ got Android 10 in December I believe. Definitely was super fast compared to Note9 getting Android 9 (February/March).
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Thats what I was thinking, but couldn't remember 100%. Unless there's somd major issues, it looks like we're on the same timeline for Android 11, since the beta is already out for the international S20 series. US Note 20 won't be too far behind.

gloege said:
Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage
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Spot on. What a wrenched mess.
My 10+ is still running well on Pie.
Google is insane to emulate Apple.
I don't think Google will fix it, another Vista.
Probably stay on Pie for the life of this phone and hope Google regains their sphincter control with 12 or 13...

So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.[/QUOTE]
you know you can change/turn that off to get the notification view of it

gloege said:
So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.
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you know you can change/turn that off to get the notification view of it[/QUOTE]
I saw that too, wtf? Messenger does that all the time with Pie.
Lol, half of the time I disable it because it's a nuisance.
I've backed up all my Playstore apps with APK Export because of them either being taken down in Playstore or turned into a bloody mess to adapt to 10/11.
I also have a couple trusted apps the use overlays, Q would render them useless or a pain to use.
I remember the horror of Vista and Lollipop... Pie is running very well, WYSIWYG
The most I'll do for now is an occasional reload of Pie if needed. All my data including the all apks/system updates are stored on my SD card so reloads are much easier. No screwing around with or waiting for Playstore. Any app that allows it's setup to be exported is also saved there.
With over 230 GB of data it saves a lot of time coping it from the laptop too.
I never have a phone without an SD card slot... you know like an Apple.

I saw that too, wtf? Messenger does that all the time with Pie.
Lol, half of the time I disable it because it's a nuisance.
I've backed up all my Playstore apps with APK Export because of them either being taken down in Playstore or turned into a bloody mess to adapt to 10/11.
I also have a couple trusted apps the use overlays, Q would render them useless or a pain to use.
I remember the horror of Vista and Lollipop... Pie is running very well, WYSIWYG
The most I'll do for now is an occasional reload of Pie if needed. All my data including the all apks/system updates are stored on my SD card so reloads are much easier. No screwing around with or waiting for Playstore. Any app that allows it's setup to be exported is also saved there.
With over 230 GB of data it saves a lot of time coping it from the laptop too.
I never have a phone without an SD card slot... you know like an Apple.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the info i have a few apps i want to get off my lg g4 that are a miss in the android store

General worst phone ever

I have owned a lot of Android phones but I have to say, this is the worst one ever.
Dropped network connections, drifting GPS, bad fingerprint scanner, unresponsive apps, and overheating. I have 2 of these phones and they both suffer the same issues. I have tried all the updates on both phones and have done multiple factory resets. This has to be an embarrassment on the part of google.

Looks like a lottery I own one pixel 6a and I didn't notice any of issues you mentioned, maybe fingerprint is a little bit clunky some times, but that's just it.

lol best phone I've ever had

dudaka said:
Looks like a lottery I own one pixel 6a and I didn't notice any of issues you mentioned, maybe fingerprint is a little bit clunky some times, but that's just it.
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How often do you use Android Auto and use the navigation? I get drifted out of GPS a couple of times every trip.

edufur said:
How often do you use Android Auto and use the navigation? I get drifted out of GPS a couple of times every trip.
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I use Google maps navigation, probably every second day.

Honestly I almost like 6a over my 6. I did fresh install A13, root, custom kernel, can't complain. Best free phone I ever had.

dudaka said:
I use Google maps navigation, probably every second day.
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So then I got unlucky twice? Surely there must be some folks out there experiencing the same issues as me.

edufur said:
So then I got unlucky twice? Surely there must be some folks out there experiencing the same issues as me.
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You can always ask for a replacement if they're still under warranty.

bad for you, 6a is the best phone I've ever had

The only thing on your list that I'm experiencing is occasional overheating, which then clears up almost as quickly as it came on. I'm on OEM A13 with the latest September update.

edufur said:
So then I got unlucky twice? Surely there must be some folks out there experiencing the same issues as me.
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QPR1 Beta 1. Sign up, install the beta and come back here and say, oops.. nvm.

edufur said:
I have owned a lot of Android phones but I have to say, this is the worst one ever.
Dropped network connections, drifting GPS, bad fingerprint scanner, unresponsive apps, and overheating. I have 2 of these phones and they both suffer the same issues. I have tried all the updates on both phones and have done multiple factory resets. This has to be an embarrassment on the part of google.
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I hate to agree, but I AGREE. This is by far the worst Pixel I've owned.

Definitely the worst android phone i've had.
Really slow to switch between normal and work profile
Can't even register my right thumbprint as it keeps saying unreadable but works on 4 other phones in the house quite fine
Battery life is terrible. I use it as my work phone and it mostly sits on standby but still only gives me about a day or two with almost no use.
Just a poor device. Very much doubt i'd ever get another Pixel of any kind. Seems they've had bad software updates several times

No issues, running the Sept update on two phones. No problems with data, GPS, fingerprint ( which is the 1st time ever that I have used it, and I did it because people were reporting issues ), etc...

I will say though that the September update has resolved my fingerprint issues. Time will tell if everything else has improved.

dexlemaffo said:
You can always ask for a replacement if they're still under warranty.
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My issues are subjective. If their QA staff disagrees with my issues, I would be charged for the replacement.

edufur said:
I will say though that the September update has resolved my fingerprint issues. Time will tell if everything else has improved.
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Waiting eagerly for that update -- still on original 13 release

highlightshadow said:
Waiting eagerly for that update -- still on original 13 release
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You can download the OTA and sideload it. It actually is quite nice since it skips the "optimizing apps" process.

edufur said:
You can download the OTA and sideload it. It actually is quite nice since it skips the "optimizing apps" process.
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Can't - work phone and we're not permitted to enable dev options

highlightshadow said:
Can't - work phone and we're not permitted to enable dev options
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Yikes! I remember the days of a work controlled phone. That is never fun. Sorry man!