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Hey folks,
I'm sorry this is probably a newbee question but I would like to have an answer.
I root my phone (Optimus One) and I try to back-up ROM on sd card and reeboot
and stuck at Lg logo. What to do?
Please help.

gabrielpet said:
Hey folks,
I'm sorry this is probably a newbee question but I would like to have an answer.
I root my phone (Optimus One) and I try to back-up ROM on sd card and reeboot
and stuck at Lg logo. What to do?
Please help.
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You probably shouldn't have rooted in the first place. You should have learned and researched first.
Despite popular belief, having root does NOT in fact make you cooler.
Way too many new users are trying to root because they think it's cool or heard it's cool. Well; it's not cool to be a n00b and attempt root. You need to learn your device first.
If you don't know how to perform a Nandroid backup, or restore a previous ROM backup, flash updates, install custom ROM's, boot into Safe mode, Mount R/W, run shell commands or Terminal Emulator etc, then you should NOT root. You should browse the forums here, read and re-read everything until you know it well. Google search related topics. Exhaust all available avenues, then ask questions. After you've executed all of these options you might consider rooting and starting to tinker with your device.
If you don't even know what some of the things are that were mentioned, then you should absolutely NOT root your phone. You will likely brick or screw up your phone and then be right back here begging for help in a new thread most definately created by you out of haste or costing HTC/T-Mobile money by sending your phone back and asking for a replacement simply because you had no idea what you were doing. JMHO
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
/*
* Rooting voids your warranty.
*/

CBConsultation said:
You probably shouldn't have rooted in the first place. You should have learned and researched first.
Despite popular belief, having root does NOT in fact make you cooler.
Way too many new users are trying to root because they think it's cool or heard it's cool. Well; it's not cool to be a n00b and attempt root. You need to learn your device first.
If you don't know how to perform a Nandroid backup, or restore a previous ROM backup, flash updates, install custom ROM's, boot into Safe mode, Mount R/W, run shell commands or Terminal Emulator etc, then you should NOT root. You should browse the forums here, read and re-read everything until you know it well. Google search related topics. Exhaust all available avenues, then ask questions. After you've executed all of these options you might consider rooting and starting to tinker with your device.
If you don't even know what some of the things are that were mentioned, then you should absolutely NOT root your phone. You will likely brick or screw up your phone and then be right back here begging for help in a new thread most definately created by you out of haste or costing HTC/T-Mobile money by sending your phone back and asking for a replacement simply because you had no idea what you were doing. JMHO
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
/*
* Rooting voids your warranty.
*/
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Couldn't have said it better. But, I jumped in myself without really testing the waters when rooting my main usage device. But, what I did was read the same steps over and over again as I went along and took my time to make sure where I was going to go next and what would go wrong if I changed my mind and didn't want to root anymore out of difficulties.
What you should do at this point, is go back on the steps that you've followed and see what you may have done wrong. The best thing you can do is go back into your recovery menu and try reflashing a stock rom to your phone in hopes of reversing what you've done. Once you've done that, read different guides to give you a sense of what's going on. Pick a guide that makes the most sense to you, perhaps even a dumbed-down guide that will take you literally STEP BY STEP and assist you in rooting. Also make sure your phone isn't a pain to root. Some devices are easier than others.

Why do you need ClockworkMod?

Why do you need to set up a recovery or cwm for your phone after it's been rooted?

Almost all of the Kernels and ROM's are installed/Flashed through the Clock Work Custom Recovery. Plus you can use it to do Nandroid backups and clear cache and so on. It's really a great utility to have.

Ok thanks. I'm just really nervous about trying to CwM my phone again cause last week I had to get a new phone cause I did something wrong.
Do you think you could possibly give me step by step instructions on how to properly recover my phone using CwM? I'm not the brightest person and Im kinda clueless with all of this stuff.
EDIT:
Will this do the trick?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=997359
If I do this is my phone ready?

ketchkev000 said:
Ok thanks. I'm just really nervous about trying to CwM my phone again cause last week I had to get a new phone cause I did something wrong.
Do you think you could possibly give me step by step instructions on how to properly recover my phone using CwM? I'm not the brightest person and Im kinda clueless with all of this stuff.
EDIT:
Will this do the trick?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=997359
If I do this is my phone ready?
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First of all, most people around here aren't experts when they begin this process - but they definitely AT LEAST have a clue - so I suggest you take some time doing research before you even attempt any of these things. If you're not wanting to do so, try to find someone that you know that has done some modding and see if they can help you. Our references around here are pretty clear and cover all bases, so there shouldn't be too many questions to ask after reading around.
To answer your question, that thread you linked has an odin package that includes a custom recovery (clockworkmod) along with a complete 2.2 stock image, so it would be a good place to start.

Do you need to use cwm if you just wanna use apps that require your phone to be rooted? Sorry for all of the questions.

CWM and Rooting aren't really connected. Some background info, from what I've learned thus far:
Rooting just changes a couple files in the OS portion of Android to allow you to have Superuser access (like Administrator on a Windows machine). All of that goes on in the OS partition.
CWM Recovery, its full, proper name, is a custom Recovery. The default recovery allows just a factory reset for the most part. CWM Recovery allows that, but also allows many more options; clearing user/Dalvik cache, performing Nandroid backups and restores, enabling or disabling Voodoo (note that you need to have a separate Voodoo-compatible kernel installed), flashing things from ZIP files on your SD card, and so on.
The short answer then is no, you don't even need to think about CWM if all you want to do is root your phone and use apps that require it to be rooted.

ketchkev000 said:
Do you need to use cwm if you just wanna use apps that require your phone to be rooted? Sorry for all of the questions.
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If you are just wanting to use apps that require root access then no you don't have to use CWM. You need CWM if you are going to flash a kernel or ROM or any other Mod for your phone. Rooting and CWM are two different things. As long as your phone is rooted, then you shouldn't have trouble using apps that reuire root access, with or without CWM on your phone. At least I didn't when I first began doing this stuff. Granted Im still a noob to an extent but my phone was rooted for a long time before I ever installed CWM and I never had an issue with the root apps
Edit: didnt' mean to be redundant. Chromewolf posted while I was typing mine

add144 said:
I think its full, proper name would be ClockworkMod Recovery
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Damnit! I needed to have found someone else I could have bet money on that not only would I get corrected on that, but that it would be by add. No money for me. XD
But seriously, while add is correct on the matter of semantics, the point I was trying to make is that CWM is just a custom Recovery (which I've sort of taken to needlessly capitalizing lately to emphasize the difference a bit more), as opposed to an app or something.
Brief off-topic: A present for you add, especially if you're a gamer. I hope you lol at it, I know I always do (and I'm the *functional* rules lawyer of the group, LOL), and I'm not the one who wears it!
http://www.warehouse23.com/item.html?id=OWD45013-2XL

Nexus S 4G OneClickRoot!

Is anyone able to create a OneClickRoot for the Nexus S 4G? If not what is keeping someone from creating one?

This would be AWESOME! the unrooting process wasnt that difficult but it did take some time for me since i'm a noob at using the SNS 4G.
The rooting/unrooting sticky in the development section was extremely helpful.

Yeah.. It's really rather easy.
Unlock
Push CWM
Flash SU in CWM
Done

styckx said:
Yeah.. It's really rather easy.
Unlock
Push CWM
Flash SU in CWM
Done
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You for the step where you have to rename install-recovery.sh, otherwise CWM will keep getting removed everytime you reboot.
And, to anyone that is savvy with command line, yes this phone is super easy to root.
But oneclickroot's are nice to have for those less savvy folks out there.
No harm in having extra root methods, it would only help to grow the community.

It appears to be much easier than other phones. Look up the HTC Thunderbolt, for example.
Scary.

AshsToAshs said:
You for the step where you have to rename install-recovery.sh, otherwise CWM will keep getting removed everytime you reboot.
And, to anyone that is savvy with command line, yes this phone is super easy to root.
But oneclickroot's are nice to have for those less savvy folks out there.
No harm in having extra root methods, it would only help to grow the community.
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The NS4G doesn't have that file, CWM stays permanently so its a non issue

My NS4G had it. I was confused about why it kept booting into stock recovery until I read about renaming it. Anyhow, all I did was install Super Manager from the Market, grant it root access, and rename install-recovery.sh to install-recovery.bak. Pretty easy.

Not entirely true. I have it.
If someone can read and follow a guide then they can unlock, recovery, root this phone. Like someone said when I first started reading before doing anything, this phone is a very easy one to root and recovery and unlock (not in that order).
Just do it yo!
Just follow the directions. Look in the dev section. There's two stickies that talk about this stuff for the gsm and the cdma versions. If it were a snake, it would bite you! You can't miss it

terminal emulater
I have been rooting since the g1 and yes it appears to be extremely easy but it would be nice if some one could show the commands to do it through the terminal emulater. Plz someone help

Quite odd, if that is the case I wonder why some have it and some don't?

I know mine didn't.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA Premium App

I though that all of them did? Mine was in the 'etc' folder in the root partition of my phone.

See now this is odd.... I can definitely say I DO NOT have that file. What I'd love to know is why people with the same phone do

I'm interested in a one-click root not because it is easier, but because most of the one-click methods enable you to root without a data wipe. It is my understanding that there is currently no way to root the NS4g without completely wiping your data. Am I correct?

davpel said:
I'm interested in a one-click root not because it is easier, but because most of the one-click methods enable you to root without a data wipe. It is my understanding that there is currently no way to root the NS4g without completely wiping your data. Am I correct?
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As far as I know, yes you are correct since it requires you to unlock the bootloader, but if you leave it unlocked then it shouldn't mess with any of your data (internal and sd partition).
I have the T-mo version and I don't have the install-recovery.sh anymore. I'm assuming because it was taken out in the custom rom that I'm using.

[Q] Backing up my data?

I'm so extremely new to this forum (and any forum, for that matter) that I just have an overload of questions. I've taken the time to read some stickies for noobs and that you should always read and search before posting but I am impatient (I tried and failed).
I recently got a gorgeous, red htc one m8 from Verizon. This phone is bomb, and a total step up from my previous galaxy s3, but now I really want to root for the first time and see where it can take me.
I'd like to backup my phone before following the instructions to root, and the resources I've gotten don't seem promising and I was really just wanting to know what would be best to save EVERYTHING from multimedia to my somewhat custom settings. (?)
Please don't hate me. I'm so new. If I ever get to the point of rooting this thing are there any personal recommendations on where to begin after I've rooted (or threads that already have that stuff)?

The rooting process (including soff) wipes no data. After you get root, you can install an app like titani backup or helium backup to backup individual data. You also want to do a nandroid backup in recovery the second you install a custom recovery, so you have a cushion to fall in in a bad situation

wtoj34 said:
The rooting process (including soff) wipes no data. After you get root, you can install an app like titani backup or helium backup to backup individual data. You also want to do a nandroid backup in recovery the second you install a custom recovery, so you have a cushion to fall in in a bad situation
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Thank you!
Now I've just got to google nandroid backup and custom recovery. These are honestly my baby steps with this, should I even root without knowing all this stuff or will it just get easier?

letsmoshjosh said:
Now I've just got to google nandroid backup and custom recovery. These are honestly my baby steps with this, should I even root without knowing all this stuff or will it just get easier?
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I would say you need to read read read. The s-off procedures for either firewater our sunshine are damn near idiot proof so there's little to no risk of damaging things there. However, once you have the ability to flash things in a custom recovery the risk goes way up. As long as you're not flashing unverified experimental files or accidentally flashing files for a different model then today's recoveries make it pretty easy. Also, make a nandroid before you change just about anything through recovery. Happy flashing.

cntryby429 said:
I would say you need to read read read. The s-off procedures for either firewater our sunshine are damn near idiot proof so there's little to no risk of damaging things there. However, once you have the ability to flash things in a custom recovery the risk goes way up. As long as you're not flashing unverified experimental files or accidentally flashing files for a different model then today's recoveries make it pretty easy. Also, make a nandroid before you change just about anything through recovery. Happy flashing.
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All of the above are true. Please revisit the thread if you have any issues setting up ADB on your machine before you attempt firewater (S-OFF). The big thing for me was making sure I got everything installed properly before I flashed. Once you do the root process be it Samsung, HTC, et al... you will find it is remarkably easy.
If you're looking for a custom ROM, be sure to stick to the Verizon HTC One M8 forums only unless you're directed there by a thread. Before you flash anything at all, just make sure you're solid on the process. Many times, there are awesome people who take the time to make a video about the process from start to end. Those will probably enormously useful for you on your first foray.
Again, ask around and read up! As cntryby429 said, read as much as you possibly can. The truth is, the devs do far more work than we could ever imagine as far as root goes.
Cheers!

letsmoshjosh said:
I'm so extremely new to this forum (and any forum, for that matter) that I just have an overload of questions. I've taken the time to read some stickies for noobs and that you should always read and search before posting but I am impatient (I tried and failed).
I recently got a gorgeous, red htc one m8 from Verizon. This phone is bomb, and a total step up from my previous galaxy s3, but now I really want to root for the first time and see where it can take me.
I'd like to backup my phone before following the instructions to root, and the resources I've gotten don't seem promising and I was really just wanting to know what would be best to save EVERYTHING from multimedia to my somewhat custom settings. (?)
Please don't hate me. I'm so new. If I ever get to the point of rooting this thing are there any personal recommendations on where to begin after I've rooted (or threads that already have that stuff)?
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I've been where you are! It's a little daunting finding all the information and getting it sorted.
You will have to do your own reading and do lot of it, but here's a little summary to get you pointed in the right direction.
The only known root method for the M8 is WEAKSAUCE. It provides temp root, meaning you loose root with each reboot but the app will re-root the phone automatically about 30 sec after booting. Servicable but not very elegant.
Root with Weaksauce is a pre-requisite to everything below.
If you want permanent root and/or run a custom rom on this phone you have to S-off, unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery (in that order).
For S-off and bootloader unlock (accomplished at the same time) there are two methods:
FIREWATER: free, but does not work on all M8s. Try it - it'll either work or fail. Follow the instructions on the Firewater website to the letter
SUNSHINE: from the same devs that made Firewater, guaranteed to work on all M8s and it'll cost you $25. Well worth it in my opinion.
Once you have S-off and an unlocked bootloader you can install a custom recovery like TWRP or CWM (I recommend the former). Find instructions on the respective websites.
Once you have the custom recovery installed, you can
- flash SuperSU for permanent root
- make a nandroid (total system backup or image) of your stock rom or any rom you have currently installed
- flash a custom rom
This should get you started. Read everything three times, ask twice, flash once.
Edit: Could you do me a favor? Change the title of your thread to something like: Step-by-Step instructions for rooting/roming the M8?
It would make it easier to find for users in a similar situation.

Obtaining root and possibly S-Off for newbies.

I hate to bring something that many people have already gone through and explained many times. However, there are many explanations and procedures that ultimately lead to obtaining root access as well as S-Off status.
Unfortunately my abilities are limited to reading and following directions of others in the know. But no offense to anyone who has spent their valuable time posting directions in this forum but I have not been able to follow any one set of instructions from start to finish.
Can someone break it down in the most simplest of terms for end users like myself?
My device is HTC Unlocked A9 with Hia 1.56.617.1 base. I have managed to unlock bootloader. From there I have gotten TWRP flashed but even that was shaky at best. I struggled with the encryption, systemless, etc.. and I was never able to get SU with a successful boot. Ended up flashing RUU to get back to stock but with unlocked bootloader.
So I would really appreciate if someone had the patience and time to make things a little more clear on what to do from here.
Thank you, I will for always be in your debt.