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[Q] Rooting P31XX without increasing the custom flash counter

I am currently searching for a method to root the Galaxy Tab 2 7" (Model numbers P3110 and P3100) without increasing the custom binary flash counter. As far as I am informed, if the device can be rooted without touching the counter, mobile odin could flash roms without affecting it either. It comes with a 4.0.4 firmware so hacking via /data/local is no longer possible.
As an alternateve, if it would be possible to bring CWM to the device without increasing the counter, a rooted rom could be installed via recovery also leaving alone the counter. (This at least works flawlessly with CyanogenMod on my galax s2 ever since.) It seems that the recovery.img for CWM alone could be flashed using the stock recovery from an external sd card when converted to a zip. Will this increase the counter? There also seems to be something called temporary CWM which is only executed for a single run, not installed permenently. Although I did not find much information and do not know where to get it, maybe this could be more safe?
Or perhaps someone can tell me another way of safely rooting the tab I did not think about.

ProjectPassive said:
I am currently searching for a method to root the Galaxy Tab 2 7" (Model numbers P3110 and P3100) without increasing the custom binary flash counter. As far as I am informed, if the device can be rooted without touching the counter, mobile odin could flash roms without affecting it either. It comes with a 4.0.4 firmware so hacking via /data/local is no longer possible.
As an alternateve, if it would be possible to bring CWM to the device without increasing the counter, a rooted rom could be installed via recovery also leaving alone the counter. (This at least works flawlessly with CyanogenMod on my galax s2 ever since.) It seems that the recovery.img for CWM alone could be flashed using the stock recovery from an external sd card when converted to a zip. Will this increase the counter? There also seems to be something called temporary CWM which is only executed for a single run, not installed permenently. Although I did not find much information and do not know where to get it, maybe this could be more safe?
Or perhaps someone can tell me another way of safely rooting the tab I did not think about.
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Just use Triangle Away after rooting to return your flash counter to 0.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.

Skipjacks said:
Just use Triangle Away after rooting to return your flash counter to 0.
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Resetting the counter is a well known strategy to calm your mind. Fuzzy rumor even has it that there could be another hidden counter counting counter resets. Anyways, here I want to search for a way to root without increasing any counter to begin with.
The /data/local hack could be applied to a 4.0.3 firmware. Luckily sammobile indeed provides this version. But is it safe to flash? Will installing the P3110XXALD4_P3110DBTALD1_DBT.zip via stock recovery trip the counter?

ProjectPassive said:
Resetting the counter is a well known strategy to calm your mind. Fuzzy rumor even has it that there could be another hidden counter counting counter resets. Anyways, here I want to search for a way to root without increasing any counter to begin with.
The /data/local hack could be applied to a 4.0.3 firmware. Luckily sammobile indeed provides this version. But is it safe to flash? Will installing the P3110XXALD4_P3110DBTALD1_DBT.zip via stock recovery trip the counter?
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Dude the traingle away method method has been used like a million times by people who want to get their warranty back after rooting or flashing custom roms , and even if there is a hidden flash counter then the samsung service shop people dont know about that because i too had reset the flash counter and gave to them when i had some touch issues and they replaced the tab for me !!!
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Has anybody tried to use framaroot?

kunjcool said:
even if there is a hidden flash counter then the samsung service shop people dont know about that because i too had reset the flash counter and gave to them when i had some touch issues and they replaced the tab for me !!!
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Thanks for this promising information. I will consider rooting the device with a counter incrementing method when I am sure that there is no way to avoid it.
bongski55 said:
Has anybody tried to use framaroot?
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Framaroot gives the message "Your device seems not vulnerable to exploit included in Framaroot" on startup and exits right away giving me no chance to even try one of the exploits.

I have decided to trip knox

Any one on the same boat as me and on the verge of just doing whatever the hell you want with a phone you bought (and Own) legit with cash...
Fug samsung man :laugh:

lqrt said:
Any one on the same boat as me and on the verge of just doing whatever the hell you want with a phone you bought (and Own) legit with cash...
Fug samsung man :laugh:
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If you trip knox, welcome to the family. Lol

Like you, I done it last night. Samsung can do one! Probably my last Samsung phone. Unless they sort they sort it out
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app

I tripped mine worry free, as you said, we own the device and can do as we please with it. Do I regret it? Nope not at all.

I am also going to trip it but my question, how to get backup of data and apps wo root? any links suggested?

m_carleone82 said:
I am also going to trip it but my question, how to get backup of data and apps wo root? any links suggested?
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I would suggest Helium, doesn't require root but you need to run the desktop application before you can backup.
Really simple and easy

It's blasphemy they sell the devices at a premium and we are not allowed to use as we see fit without any repercussions.
When would rooting ever make phone calls weak , buttons malfunction or whatever hardware related issue man..
@carleone82 if you are not rooting why do you need to trip the counter?

m_carleone82 said:
I am also going to trip it but my question, how to get backup of data and apps wo root? any links suggested?
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Uhm rooting does not wipe anything. Why don't you just root then only backup.

Tripped mine aswell XD after 2 days of purchase

Thats it! I had enough as well. I think I will be rooting today.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

Tripped mine a few days ago.

Tripping mine now too ;D
Sent from my SM-N900 using xda premium

Wooooo root for everyone !
First thing i installed was viper audio, xposed framework, wanam xposed, maximize widgets and samsung multiple widgets.
Feels so much better already

Well, I got my Note3 N9005 (replacing my Note II) in beginning of October. Within an hour after I got home it was rooted with Chainfire's CF autoroute.
Do I regret - No Way, despite that the Knox flag is tripped.
I need the feeling of having full control of my phone and run Titanium Backup Pro, App Quarantine Pro, Root Explorer, File Manager Explorer, Nandroid Manager/Online, Mobile Odin Pro and of course SuperSU Pro.
In addition I use Philz Touch Recovery CWM which has just become available for the N9005. The rest of the phones OS is fully stock.
The tripped Knox flag doesn't really bother me. It's just a kind of a certificate to run Knox and I don't need to run that at all. I do see the point in Knox related to corporate security with a lot of employees running around with unsecured phones on the inside of the company firewall. Not to forget about all the corporate information on each phone totally unsecured. That's where the Knox container comes in handy.
As far as I understand, warranty is not an issue (atleast within EU) if Knox flag is tripped. If the phone is able to boot in Download Mode - just reflash (PC Odin) it with latest stock software. If you have a backup on the external SD card or your PC (you should), do factory reset before you send it back for warranty repair or replacement.
I have a hard time believing that it is possible to reset the Knox flag without replacing a chip on the MB or the MB itself.

Pooheyx said:
As far as I understand, warranty is not an issue (atleast within EU) if Knox flag is tripped. If the phone is able to boot in Download Mode - just reflash (PC Odin) it with latest stock software. If you have a backup on the external SD card or your PC (you should), do factory reset before you send it back for warranty repair or replacement.
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Could You tell me more about this varranty in Europe? I have my Note 3 for Few days but after changing from my rooted LG 4x Hd I feel bad not being able to greenify or freeze many unwanted apps

LOL, i tripped mine from day 1.

mouzam said:
Thats it! I had enough as well. I think I will be rooting today.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
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If you are only rooting then you wont be tripping Knox. Just FYI.

daraj said:
If you are only rooting then you wont be tripping Knox. Just FYI.
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Not strictly true. - It depends on the root method and which bootloader etc he has.- But yes your post does have truth in it.

Kontal said:
Could You tell me more about this varranty in Europe? I have my Note 3 for Few days but after changing from my rooted LG 4x Hd I feel bad not being able to greenify or freeze many unwanted apps
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Look for EU regulation (1999/44/CE)
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

i trip it at the third day! Know 0x1, X-Note (Perfect Rom) Rooted, i hope i will not need any Repair at this 2 years

I rooted my Note 3 on KitKat without tripping Knox, also got voice recording working

I just wanted to share that I was able to do it, and without tripping knox.
It was either a miracle, I have a special phone, I have no idea.
What I did:
- Entered ODIN mode
- Flashed CWM recovery for Note 3 (for my exact phone model, Samsung N900W8, it's a Canadian One) -- GENUINELY thought I'd trip Knox, but CF auto root was not working, so this was my option.
This somehow did not trip Knox at all, then all I had to troubleshoot a bit. I tried a few older versions of the SuperSU for CWM package, none of them worked... then finally I found out that these were old versions, I downloaded the 1.89 superSU package for CWM/TWRP, and now I am officially rooted.
Once I booted in, I had to load SuperSu which then said "Do you want to disable KNOX to get root working?" or something to that extent.. At my own risk I did that, still didn't trip the KNOX counter.
Booted up, works, able to use root on a lot of different apps.
I have no idea if it's a miracle it did not trip Knox, if I have a magic phone, etc.. but I thought I'd share.
This is root, not a custom kernel or anything.
Second bit: I was able to get call recording with Call Recorder working as long as I used to CAF (root required) option. No other option worked, not kernel, not with installed Alsa, etc..
If anyone wants any more specific information about my phone, I will gladly share. All I know is knox 0x0 with root is pretty sweet.

Was this the first time you rooted your N3? or did it have root on a lower android version?

N900w8 can be rooted witout triping knox..its already known. ..problem is with n9005 models
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xinfinityoO said:
N900w8 can be rooted witout triping knox..its already known. ..problem is with n9005 models
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
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Why don't people include the model number in the title?? As mentioned above, this is known about.
Any chance we can have the forum search button a bit BIGGER so people know where it is!!
I'm fed up with having my hopes raised and then slashed to nothing

When you boot into your custom recovery it doesn't say set warranty bit recovery?
Sent from my SM-N9005 beast of a phone.

aarghhh...
just woke up tp read this.
now have to go back to sleep again.
p.s. please wake me up when there is one.

Sammath said:
When you boot into your custom recovery it doesn't say set warranty bit recovery?
Sent from my SM-N9005 beast of a phone.
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Mine does (I think.. there's a line of blue text and I can't recall that it says exactly), but in Download mode it shows 0x0.

Ask any question thread

I think it might be a good idea to have a thread for any questions as the its gonna get quite cluttered. Some questions might not need a thread. Anyway I have a question
Does the S6 have a rgb light for notifications?

ermacwins said:
I think it might be a good idea to have a thread for any questions as the its gonna get quite cluttered. Some questions might not need a thread. Anyway I have a question
Does the S6 have a rgb light for notifications?
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Yes it does.

Is the home button made of glass and aluminium like the rest of the device?

Does Viral (see my sig) work without any problems? And what resolution can you select?

Would an S6 bought from Saudi Arabia work in the UK incl 4G?

Does light flow work with the S6?

Hey, has anyone here an issue where the video quality gets really poor when in low light?
My videos all tent to look "milky" when the lights are off and the resolutions are higher than 720p.
Anyone here had a similar problem?

jpbl1976 said:
Is the home button made of glass and aluminium like the rest of the device?
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Yes.
ermacwins said:
Would an S6 bought from Saudi Arabia work in the UK incl 4G?
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As long as it's unlocked, it should. And by 4G, do you mean LTE?
ermacwins said:
Does light flow work with the S6?
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Doesn't seem to function properly on my end. Light Manager works though.

I have an s6 with carrier bloat, can I flash a unbranded firmware over it? Does it have a counter when flashing roms?

ermacwins said:
I have an s6 with carrier bloat, can I flash a unbranded firmware over it? Does it have a counter when flashing roms?
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The only counter the S6 has right now is the Knox warranty counter. As long as you flash stock roms -not modified in any way- Knox shouldn't be tripped and you wouldn't loose the warranty and access to Samsung pay. If you modify the device with, for instance, PingPong Root, the status will be shown as 'Modified' and you will lose Samsung Pay and OTA updates untill you flash a stock rom again.
You can flash unbranded firmware without issues as long as its compatible. That was literally the first thing I did to my phone.

Cloxed said:
The only counter the S6 has right now is the Knox warranty counter. As long as you flash stock roms -not modified in any way- Knox shouldn't be tripped and you wouldn't loose the warranty and access to Samsung pay. If you modify the device with, for instance, PingPong Root, the status will be shown as 'Modified' and you will lose Samsung Pay and OTA updates untill you flash a stock rom again.
You can flash unbranded firmware without issues as long as its compatible. That was literally the first thing I did to my phone.
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So I can't flash a debloated rom?

ermacwins said:
So I can't flash a debloated rom?
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You can. You'd just lose your warranty and access to samsung pay. If you're interested in removing the carrier's bloatware, you can use the Debloater tool. Pretty straightforward, effective and safe. It can even 'disable' system apps so you should be careful with that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294

Cloxed said:
You can. You'd just lose your warranty and access to samsung pay. If you're interested in removing the carrier's bloatware, you can use the Debloater tool. Pretty straightforward, effective and safe. It can even 'disable' system apps so you should be careful with that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
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And if I were to flash a stock rom again? Would it return it to pure factory settings?

ermacwins said:
And if I were to flash a stock rom again? Would it return it to pure factory settings?
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If you flash a stock ROM over an already debloated one, the disabled apps won't become enabled. You'd need to perform a factory reset for them to become available again. This means you can flash newer versions of stock ROMs as they become available without fear of having to debloat again. This is nice if you want to try newer kernel versions included in the latest ROMs, or to try different basebands.
-As a sidenote, when I say flash the stock ROMs I refer to flashing with Odin, rather than custom recoveries (because installing custom recoveries voids the knox counter)

Cloxed said:
-As a sidenote, when I say flash the stock ROMs I refer to flashing with Odin, rather than custom recoveries (because installing custom recoveries voids the knox counter)
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My bro just told me you can flash zips with flashfire without tripping Knox, so this can be used to install twrp? And how do you know if you tripped Knox?

ermacwins said:
My bro just told me you can flash zips with flashfire without tripping Knox, so this can be used to install twrp? And how do you know if you tripped Knox?
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Knox will be tripped if you install a custom recovery or kernel - that's for sure, whether you use flashfire or odin or anything else.
Post 784 and 785 of this thread kinda reassure it, among others.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60861926&postcount=784
Check if knox is tripped by going into download mode (hold power button + home button + volumen down untill a cyan screen shows up, then volume up).

Is there any way to get nexus like navigation buttons on the s6? Also is there an app that can add long press function to the recent button?

Why does my Knox flag say 0x0304 and not 0x1 like everything else I've seen? I flashed TWRP for root/debloat and flashed back stock recovery for deep sleep. I don't care about warranty, I'm just curious if there's a difference. Model 920F.

Sensors not working
I installed Noble Nougat Experience 4.5 S8 port on my SM-G920F. Battery life was bad so I decided to go back to stock ROM.
I did something dumb. I deleted all partitions and Windows could not recognise my device.
I solved the problem with Smart Switch.
I installed stock ROM and everything was fine until I started Asphalt 8 game. I tilted my phone to control the car but car just went foward.
I thought it was the game issue but when I opened YouTube I couldn't go in landscape mode.
I tried to calibrate gyroscope sensor but it still didn't work.
I entered *#0*# in phone app and went to sensors and none of the worked and SensorHub Test failed.
If someone knows is it software or hardware problem.
Please help!!!

Question about Temp Root (King Root) and Knox

Alright guys here's the burning question. I achieved temp root on the note edge using king root. Now If I use Titanium Backup to freeze and uninstall all the Knox elements then use CF-Root to get permanent root will it still trip the Knox counter even though there are no more remnants of Knox?

That's a good question, did you ever get this figured out? Also what build are you running and what version of King root are you using to achieve temp root?

Greenarcher707 said:
Alright guys here's the burning question. I achieved temp root on the note edge using king root. Now If I use Titanium Backup to freeze and uninstall all the Knox elements then use CF-Root to get permanent root will it still trip the Knox counter even though there are no more remnants of Knox?
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Are we even sure that CF-Root will perma-root our devices, yet?
mikeystone2012x said:
That's a good question, did you ever get this figured out? Also what build are you running and what version of King root are you using to achieve temp root?
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With either the Verizon or AT&T variants, you have to be running KK; the AT&T variant is ANK2.

raynan said:
Are we even sure that CF-Root will perma-root our devices, yet?
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About as sure as its gonna trip knox.