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Ok,Here me out I know this has been asked but I have a different situation and reall y need input as of right now I've read so many reviews and heard so many diff opinions I just want some help on here.
Ok so I bought the shift 11 days ago and realized while I have no problems with it I do want the most out of my upgrade, that being said I turned my attention towards the nexus S, also by the way I only wanted to spend 100 dollars no more than that or I would've gotten the Evo 3d or some other dual core awesome phone. Anyways, I know I would give up the hardware keyboard but feel this is inevitable and something I will eventually do. However the NS has a faster processor, better screen, bigger screen, no crap sprint apps you cant get rid of and a forward facing camera which is a big positive for me.
Heres the deal though I never go against reviews and all the stats say that the Shift wins by like a whole start on every review site. That being said a sprint tech said they have more returns on shifts than the NS and that he loves his NS. So I go in considering the trade and the salesman comforted me saying he wouldn't make the trade. I took his advice then got home and thought well of course the salesman said that it'd be cheaper and they'd have to refund me about 50 bucks and a hundred in the long run. Also I read it has bad wifi problems is that true? I'm sorry for the disorder of this post, I'm just extremely frustrated and don't have much time.
SO I know this has been long, but in eveyones opinion what would you do? i know the NS feels cheaper but I mean does that matter? With a nice case, a zag full body cover and insurance should that matter? Also, the 16gb no sd card thing doesn't bother me I don't think I'll ever and never have exceeded 4gb.
I only have 2 days to decide.
Thanks everyone in advance
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Ok,Here me out I know this has been asked but I have a different situation and reall y need input as of right now I've read so many reviews and heard so many diff opinions I just want some help on here.
Ok so I bought the shift 11 days ago and realized while I have no problems with it I do want the most out of my upgrade, that being said I turned my attention towards the nexus S, also by the way I only wanted to spend 100 dollars no more than that or I would've gotten the Evo 3d or some other dual core awesome phone. Anyways, I know I would give up the hardware keyboard but feel this is inevitable and something I will eventually do. However the NS has a faster processor, better screen, bigger screen, no crap sprint apps you cant get rid of and a forward facing camera which is a big positive for me.
Heres the deal though I never go against reviews and all the stats say that the Shift wins by like a whole start on every review site. That being said a sprint tech said they have more returns on shifts than the NS and that he loves his NS. So I go in considering the trade and the salesman comforted me saying he wouldn't make the trade. I took his advice then got home and thought well of course the salesman said that it'd be cheaper and they'd have to refund me about 50 bucks and a hundred in the long run. Also I read it has bad wifi problems is that true? I'm sorry for the disorder of this post, I'm just extremely frustrated and don't have much time.
SO I know this has been long, but in eveyones opinion what would you do? i know the NS feels cheaper but I mean does that matter? With a nice case, a zag full body cover and insurance should that matter? Also, the 16gb no sd card thing doesn't bother me I don't think I'll ever and never have exceeded 4gb.
I only have 2 days to decide.
Thanks everyone in advance
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I would have gone with the nexus s. But I am holding out for the prime
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Yeah, I just read several times the forward cam is garbage do you know about this? I'm wondering all I want to use it for is skyping. Also another big selling point for me was the thought of Ice Cream Sandwich on it soon vs. the shift taking forever if ever getting it. I heard the NS ram is bad is this true?
Well i'm going to be bias in my opinion, but here goes. There's a reason thr Shift does better on almost every review you read. It's a better device ( IMO ) . Yes it doesn't have a foward facing camera. But if that's the only deciding factor, than just get an EVO4G. Way better than the Nexus S. Plus even though it's been put on EOL. It's still got a lot of life in it. I've had a lot of chances to use other devices, and compare them head to head with the Shift. In the end the Shift always wins. Just a better device than most out there, very underated. So I would say stick with the Shift. But what the Hell do I know .
I've owned a lot of phones and the Nexus is one of them. Few things of consideration..I'd say the WiFi on the Nexus bests the Shift, to answer that question. For me, the battery life on the Nexus is not as good as the Shift. Also, the radio in the Nexus has issues. Poor reception. At home, even roaming, I could barely send a text. This was my biggest reason to part with it and go back to HTC. Other than that I felt the Nexus was a nice phone. No issues with build quality and the Super Amoled kicks ass.
Also, if you are a big tweaker/flasher consider that there are a few rooted roms for the Nexus, but not much. And they are all plain AOSP so they are pretty much the same.
If the Nexus S was out when I got the shift I would have got the Nexus instead. Don't get me wrong I love the shift to death, but unless you want to keep the sense ui then get the Nexus. (I think they even ported HTC Sense to the Nexus S)
Yes the shift is fast-but the nexus is faster, has a better screen, and also a ffc.
Although if you stick with the shift its still an amazing phone
If you don't care about a physical keyboard, get the NS4G. I really want my next phone to have an AMOLED. Plus the support we get from HTC is non-existent for the shift.
Also, the Nexus phone should get the Ice Cream Sandwich update, where the Shift will need to go the AOSP/CM route (most likely, because of non-existent support mentioned above).
Tell ya what if you don't want to trade your shift for a nexus s then let me have the trade. you can have my shift all rooted and ready to go. I want that sleek curvy s in my hands.
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Ill tell ya cuz I'm doing this right now. I'm selling my shift Sunday and getting the NS4G Tuesday. I love my shift to death but I want a new toy. But since you can get a shift for the same price on eBay as a ns4g than go for it!
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My screen is cracked and I dont feel like fixing it myself or sending it away to get fixed.
Which phone is similar or next step up from ours? I was going to get the GS3 but since buying outright, it seems a little pricey.
I check email and use the web a lot and text. A tmobile store said they will sell me a brand new g2x for 250 outright, but with all the bugs this phone has, im not sure if i want another g2x, mine i got pretty lucky with without all the bugs.
I actually dont mind spending the money for the GS3, but is it really necessary? Personally i think the shape of that phone is ugly. Thanks for opinions guys.
Im mainly looking for performance and battery life.
For similar phones, the Galaxy S 2, and the Sensation 4G are closest in terms of specs and age/price range. I like both, as both have great developer support, and between the two, there are many differences that could make you like one versus the other. If you want a new phone, there's the One S, and of course the GS3. Same scenario, just newer, and more money.
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If you don't mind spending money for a GS3 and are most of the time surfing/checking emails. Why not try G Note 2. Pricey but with a bigger screen, pretty effective to your usage.
If that doesn't float your boat, then sensation would do just fine with a rock solid dev support.
Or just wait until Monday when the new Nexus phone will be release.
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Or just wait until Monday when the new Nexus phone will be release.
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How does the new Nexus compare to the GS3? Ouch, I just sneezed and farted at the same time while asking this question and it hurt.
Easy, direct updates from google.... and actually better hardware i think... maybe lower price and few more things... is a NEXUS!
One of the reasons I went with this phone roughly 22 months ago was that it was expected to get updates to Android very quickly, since it didn't have Sense or some other heavy overlay.
Funny, huh? Since it ended up one of the WORST phones I could have picked for any real updates. Ahh, the irony.
Anyone else do the same thing? I honestly can't wait to chuck this thing, and now that it's down to $50 per line to get out of my contract 2 months early, I'm very tempted to do so and pick up a Droid DNA on Verizon or some other powerhouse.
It's not worth getting any android phone that isn't Nexus or has a huge HUGE base (galaxy s3). I wouldn't trust the DROID DNA, honestly. Verizon can really suck with updates, too.
Don't make the same mistake again.
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You should wait for May at least to see what Google rolls out, whether it is the moto X phone or something else. Also Id be surprised why you would do verizon and agree to pay prob at least $30 more per month when you can stick with Tmo or go simple talk with an unlocked GSM phone.
I got his phone for two reasons.
1. Because it was vanilla.
2. As soon as I heard nvidia was making tegra I checked everyday for news on the it's release.
Yes I waited a long ass time and nvidia didnt put out a tegra till they came out with tegra 2.
But I'm still happy with this phone.
Go to any phone thread, they all say the same thing.
"worst phone ever"
"worst company ever"
People are never happy.
This phone competes with phones coming out today with a proper stable ROM and I think that is great.
No it doesn't compete with phones coming out today. Don't try to ignore the truth.
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Overclocked to 1.55 ghz with the supercharger on aggressive, it performs well. I can do anything any new phone can do! (except take good pictures, camera became ****)
I also remember watching a promo video by LG on Tmo website claiming "pure vanilla Android experience." That along with the G2x name - hinting at G1 roots- and other factors (dual core, Tegra, etc.) falsely presumed timely updates or at least easy ROM updating. I came from the pure vanilla original Droid. I wanted the same experience. Boy did I make the same huge ironic mistake. Trouble is, this is the phone I switched my wife off her iPhone for. Disappointing at best.
True, there are some great devs who have made this phone passable. Unfortunately, TEGRA/nvidia had their hands cuffed and LG won't supply them with a key. Tmo is an enabler in the whole debacle.
Besides, even though I always will root my phone, one shouldn't have to for reliable functionality.
I think the only Android phone I will ever buy is a Nexus. Wait,I can't even buy an effing Nexus! LG should allow special Nexus purchasing concessions for all g2x owners. It might help me get rid of this nasty taste in my mouth
Now this phone is to old and too forgotten to have any hope. If you love this phone, great. But, my etudes phone is still completely stock. If you haven't driven a completely stock g2x lately. Try it. It is a pathetic sluggish joke that might be funny if it didn't freeze up during the performance all day long.
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You forgot to note that its horrible battery life as well with those mods.
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Yes, the almost vanilla Android was a major reason I got a G2x. Like others, I assumed that meant quick updates. And while I agree that it has very solid hardware that should perform better today than it would with old software, it's still nothing like the Note 2 I got to replace it.
As other have mentioned, a big failure with the phone, other than updates, is the camera. I have small kids, and the 2 second lag makes the camera next to useless. Even if the kids hold still long enough, the camera quality isn't very good.
Overall, I was happy with the phone for most of the 18 months I had it. If it had a better camera and got reasonable updates, I probably would have waited until my contract was up (although t-mo was great about upgrading me early, to my surprise).
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One of the reasons I went with this phone roughly 22 months ago was that it was expected to get updates to Android very quickly, since it didn't have Sense or some other heavy overlay.
Funny, huh? Since it ended up one of the WORST phones I could have picked for any real updates. Ahh, the irony.
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My words exactly. It was my first android and I did enjoy it, very briefly. Until the first freeze and random reboot. Of course that happened while I still could have returned the damn korean crap but I figured tmo and lg said they'll fix it right away, and they couldn't possibly abandon their customers right?!
Anyway. Finally dumped that piece of shmit and got a gs3. Can't be happier with this device, xda and t-mobile truly unlim h+
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One of the reasons I went with this phone roughly 22 months ago was that it was expected to get updates to Android very quickly, since it didn't have Sense or some other heavy overlay.
Funny, huh? Since it ended up one of the WORST phones I could have picked for any real updates. Ahh, the irony.
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Ditto here. This was my first foray into the smart phone world (had a feature phone previously) and the big reason I got it was because of the "pure vanilla Android experience" they were touting about it. I expected frequent updates, and a phone I'd be using for years.
Now, I'm torn. I actually still love my phone, but the lack of any *stock* update is disappointing. There are lots of roms/mods out there, but none of them are perfect, and I'm not hard core enough to try out different ones.
Actually, if I could just have a GPS that worked 95% of the time I'd be pretty happy. I've tried so many different tweaks and still can't get it to work fast and consistently.
And as much as I'd love to upgrade and get a Nexus 4 (which I'm close to being eligible for) the lack of a removable battery and an SD slot are VERY big downers.
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No it doesn't compete with phones coming out today. Don't try to ignore the truth.
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If it couldn't keep up then you wouldn't still be seeing kernels and ROMs being made and updated for this phone.
LG may have never gave the phone the support it deserved but this site sure has and I thank them for that.
Actually support of g2x is dying. Many great devs have moved on to better and newer phones.
LG never again for me! That's why I was so disappointed when goggles announced nexus 4 by lg...
Verizon SUCKS with updates, and they tried their damndest to keep certain apps widgets and irons of my new Note 2. Thankfully, that's why XDA exists. The bootloader took awhile to get unlocked, but we finally have some kernel/rom options and development from other carriers is making its way to our forums. God stuff.
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Actually support of g2x is dying. Many great devs have moved on to better and newer phones.
LG never again for me! That's why I was so disappointed when goggles announced nexus 4 by lg...
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Its more nvidias fault then lg's. Nvidia is closed source so ofc there not gonna try and help LG out by giving them the drivers they needed for hw acceleration. If anything Google choosing LG for the nexus 4 boosted LG as a company as they actually release updates every other day practically, it is a nexus phone.. Just look at how well the LG nexus 4 has sold for proof. Nvidia and there closed source tegra need to stay off android IMO as they only hurt and delay android devices getting updated.
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My first phone was an LG Optimus V for Virgin mobile. First phone I had the pleasure to mess around with root and custom Roms. Next phone was a huge bump in upgrade. Verizon prepaid moto g which was a million times better except this time I couldnt mess with it. Very disappointing. Then I got this. I didn't like the stock ui and I finally got to use xposed and made it look like stock lollipop. Now running cm12 OMG I love AOSP. It's really sad that the majority of people with android don't know what that means. I ask them what phone they have they 90% of the time they say droid or galaxy. So disappointing. I try to explain it to them and look stupid lol Cuz they don't care. Anyone else feel like that?
???CAUTION???
May ruin other ROMS after this
because nothing compares
I've only owned flagships. My first Android phone was the HTC OneX and then the One M7 before I switched to the G3 (the camera on the M7/M8 is **** and I wasn't going to spend money on that turd). I definitely agree that it is frustrating that some people don't appreciate or even know anything about the phones they choose. I gave up on trying to explain how to get the most out of their phones or why root/custom ROMs were the only way to truly appreciate these devices after hearing time and again how their phones were already "perfect" or that their cousin's girlfriend's brother's friend once tried to root their phone and it made it so slow and unusable.
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For real!
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May ruin other ROMS after this
because nothing compares
Shouldn't this be in Q&A? It is a question! lol
Its more of a general thread IMO. General talk...... In other words, I have changed people and taught a lot. It is kind of a curse that I talk about android development pretty much everywhere though. I have turned into a free customer service representative haha.... I should do this for work honestly. Cheerz:beer:
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I guess it depends on your definition of flagship...
My first "flagship" smartphone was a Blackberry 7100.
My first "flagship" Android smartphone was a T-Mobile G1
It helped that my company bought nearly all my phones for me.
my first smartphone/flagship was the ATT Tilt, and HTC Windows Mobile phone. I learned to mod that and I haven't stopped since. Nothing but flagships since then, always android since it was first released.
I have a certain fondness for the tilt, I had a lot of fun modding that. But I love the G3, it's by far my favorite so far.
Kinda wish I had the cat 6 G3 with the 805....
2SHAYNEZ
HTC Pure, Aria, and Inspire 4G (which was an AT&T branded Desire HD), Galaxy S3, and now G3. I have rooted every Android phone I have owned.
Me too but with support for us bands. Bananas lol
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I started with the G1 and been rooting and unlocking ever since?
HTC hero,Evo,Evo shift,Galaxy s2,Galaxy Note, s2 again, Galaxy mega, Lg optimua g pro, Now G3... And I had a few backup phones in between. Lol... I was a phone whore. Kind of wanting to grab a nexus 5 to have a backup to tinker with. Love Android.
2SHAYNEZ
Oh snap also had the phone with the longest name every! The sprint Samsung Galaxy s2 epic 4g wait for it touch lol. My USB port broke so never got to do anything fun with it
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I started with Sprint. Had the Samsung Moment. Man I thought it was the baddest thing around. There was once another forum around that was similar to XDA that taught me root and customization. Then the EVO4G what a game changer that was! I could do more with that phone than any other I've owned. Development was crazy!! Than came OneXL,M7 international,now att G3. Wish I hadn't gone flagship on this one.
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I started with Sprint. Had the Samsung Moment. Man I thought it was the baddest thing around. There was once another forum around that was similar to XDA that taught me root and customization. Then the EVO4G what a game changer that was! I could do more with that phone than any other I've owned. Development was crazy!! Than came OneXL,M7 international,now att G3. Wish I hadn't gone flagship on this one.
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Why ? This is a awesome flagship device.
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Yes it is. Wasn't implying that. I learned awhile back to steer clear of ATT carrier specific models. Wish my situation at the time of purchase would have allowed me to get International variant or maybe T-Mobile one. I'm not unhappy with this d850 but it is frustrating to see much more development on other models. Were coming along though, slowly but surely. We have some great devs.
Lol we have plenty of development .... Its pouring out honestly..
2SHAYNEZ
But compared to the d851 & 855 it's Joke
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coletague said:
But compared to the d851 & 855 it's Joke
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Well then go get one of those lol.... We have plenty IMO.. What other Roms would you like ? We have what Fusion,cm12,beanstalk,slim,cm11,liquid,power user,cloudy,pa,pa4.4.4,aicp,.... And probably a couple I'm forgetting..... Lol what else would you want ....seriously
2SHAYNEZ
Stock lollipop lol where's bean stalk
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Hi all. Currently using a 2013 Moto X as my daily driver but haven't been thrilled with it. Battery life is okay but just not wild about the device overall.
Thinking about a G2 or Nexus 5 (t-mobile user). My wife has a nexus 5 and between is we've had every nexus device since the G1 so very familiar with that line.
Looking for solid battery life and decent camera. Fast updates via nexus are nice but not a deal breaker. Have about $300 and want at least 32GB.
Thanks.
Lolol Nexus 5 for battery life and camera
Those are the cons of this phone
Go for the g2 imo
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Lolol Nexus 5 for battery life and camera
Those are the cons of this phone
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57735843&postcount=3506
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56672509&postcount=3816
I've had them two and G2 is much better than Nexus in almost everything. Great battery, you can get easily 7 hours of sot, great camera, great display, even better than the Nexus one. Currently I'm on Nexus 5 only because of the software and community, I didn't like that much LG skin as I like stock android. You still have options to install an G3 based rom in G2, and they were great, but stock android is in other level... If you don't mind about this you should go to the LG G2, but for me this was really important.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57735843&postcount=3506
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56672509&postcount=3816
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Are you saying the nexus 5 is superior in those 2 mentioned? Lol
dicecuber said:
Are you saying the nexus 5 is superior in those 2 mentioned? Lol
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I'm saying its not necessarily bad. It isn't the best but it isn't the worst either.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57735843&postcount=3506
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56672509&postcount=3816
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Is that a heavy breakfast?
Thanks all. Ended up going with the Nexus 5. Development here seems to far outpace the G2, which makes sense. Was close to going with the G2 but the development here trumps the G2. I like the idea of not getting left behind when software updates come out. Appreciate all the help. Phone should be here Tuesday. Probably keep it on stock at first while I scour the forums and find a ROM that suits my needs.
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Thanks all. Ended up going with the Nexus 5. Development here seems to far outpace the G2, which makes sense. Was close to going with the G2 but the development here trumps the G2. I like the idea of not getting left behind when software updates come out. Appreciate all the help. Phone should be here Tuesday. Probably keep it on stock at first while I scour the forums and find a ROM that suits my needs.
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Wise choice! Enjoy your cool Nexus5!
Get ready to become a Google beta-tester again
galaxys said:
Wise choice! Enjoy your cool Nexus5!
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Hahaha How is it wise?
I saw a hands-on review of the G2 and IMO it's not even close to the Nexus 5. I don't like G2's touchwiz and the overall UI experience at all. I don't care if it has a 3000mAh battery and a better camera. My vote: N5.
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I saw a hands-on review of the G2 and IMO it's not even close to the Nexus 5. I don't like G2's touchwiz and the overall UI experience at all. I don't care if it has a 3000mAh battery and a better camera. My vote: N5.
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G2's touchwiz? Where, when?
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G2's touchwiz? Where, when?
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It's actually worse than TouchWiz, IMO. Of all the OEM skins, I think LG easily takes the cake when it comes down to ugliness. Their hardware isn't so pretty either. The N5 is the only LG product I'll ever spend a dime on.
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It's actually worse than TouchWiz, IMO. Of all the OEM skins, I think LG easily takes the cake when it comes down to ugliness. Their hardware isn't so pretty either. The N5 is the only LG product I'll ever spend a dime on.
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It's a matter of taste, and tastes differ. I think LG's skin is, in terms of functionality, the best on the market.
Same goes for hardware and build, some like it, others don't. Thankfully with Android, there is no "one size fits all".
Even though its already too late to chime in with my opinion, the LG G2 is honestly... The better device EXCEPT when it comes to software. I've owned a G2 for about a month before I sold that and got my Nexus 5. Even though I'm thoroughly enjoying my Nexus experience (As this is my first ever Nexus device), there are definitely some things I miss about the G2. One, being the insane battery life, even on AOSP. But on the flip side, the G2 also had some stupid ass problems when it comes to rooting. One, being that the device is prone to permanent screen damage from flashing a ROM at a complete random chance. The G2's camera was good, and definitely outperforms the N5's, but its not that big of a deal. Knock on was pretty cool, too.
Put it like this: what the G2 had over the Nexus 5, the stability and variety of ROMs the N5 has makes up for.
Congratulations for your great choice!
And before buying Nexus 5 I had exactly the same dilemma like you but ended up buying Nexus 5 and I don't regret on that choice at all because development for Nexus is really amazing,we don't need to wait for a long time to get latest Android updates (as far as I know LG G2 didn't get a Lollipop update yet) Well,LG support for their devices was always poor.
rayiskon said:
It's a matter of taste, and tastes differ. I think LG's skin is, in terms of functionality, the best on the market.
Same goes for hardware and build, some like it, others don't. Thankfully with Android, there is no "one size fits all".
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Yep, to each their own. That's one of the best things about Android, there is quite literally something for everyone.
Simonna said:
Congratulations for your great choice!
And before buying Nexus 5 I had exactly the same dilemma like you but ended up buying Nexus 5 and I don't regret on that choice at all because development for Nexus is really amazing,we don't need to wait for a long time to get latest Android updates (as far as I know LG G2 didn't get a Lollipop update yet) Well,LG support for their devices was always poor.
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I would any moment give up my nexus 5 for a lg g2 mainly because of sub standard battery life ..i hardly manage 4 hrs of sot on 3g network and 5hrs sot on the pathetic 2g..wid elementalx the sot is raised by 10-15minutes max..
Yes i know its a damn powerful device. I am not complaining i knew abt the battery life before i got it...its just that lg g2 was above my budget