[Q] Should I trade my Shift for Nexus S? - EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok,Here me out I know this has been asked but I have a different situation and reall y need input as of right now I've read so many reviews and heard so many diff opinions I just want some help on here.
Ok so I bought the shift 11 days ago and realized while I have no problems with it I do want the most out of my upgrade, that being said I turned my attention towards the nexus S, also by the way I only wanted to spend 100 dollars no more than that or I would've gotten the Evo 3d or some other dual core awesome phone. Anyways, I know I would give up the hardware keyboard but feel this is inevitable and something I will eventually do. However the NS has a faster processor, better screen, bigger screen, no crap sprint apps you cant get rid of and a forward facing camera which is a big positive for me.
Heres the deal though I never go against reviews and all the stats say that the Shift wins by like a whole start on every review site. That being said a sprint tech said they have more returns on shifts than the NS and that he loves his NS. So I go in considering the trade and the salesman comforted me saying he wouldn't make the trade. I took his advice then got home and thought well of course the salesman said that it'd be cheaper and they'd have to refund me about 50 bucks and a hundred in the long run. Also I read it has bad wifi problems is that true? I'm sorry for the disorder of this post, I'm just extremely frustrated and don't have much time.
SO I know this has been long, but in eveyones opinion what would you do? i know the NS feels cheaper but I mean does that matter? With a nice case, a zag full body cover and insurance should that matter? Also, the 16gb no sd card thing doesn't bother me I don't think I'll ever and never have exceeded 4gb.
I only have 2 days to decide.
Thanks everyone in advance

Autumus said:
Ok,Here me out I know this has been asked but I have a different situation and reall y need input as of right now I've read so many reviews and heard so many diff opinions I just want some help on here.
Ok so I bought the shift 11 days ago and realized while I have no problems with it I do want the most out of my upgrade, that being said I turned my attention towards the nexus S, also by the way I only wanted to spend 100 dollars no more than that or I would've gotten the Evo 3d or some other dual core awesome phone. Anyways, I know I would give up the hardware keyboard but feel this is inevitable and something I will eventually do. However the NS has a faster processor, better screen, bigger screen, no crap sprint apps you cant get rid of and a forward facing camera which is a big positive for me.
Heres the deal though I never go against reviews and all the stats say that the Shift wins by like a whole start on every review site. That being said a sprint tech said they have more returns on shifts than the NS and that he loves his NS. So I go in considering the trade and the salesman comforted me saying he wouldn't make the trade. I took his advice then got home and thought well of course the salesman said that it'd be cheaper and they'd have to refund me about 50 bucks and a hundred in the long run. Also I read it has bad wifi problems is that true? I'm sorry for the disorder of this post, I'm just extremely frustrated and don't have much time.
SO I know this has been long, but in eveyones opinion what would you do? i know the NS feels cheaper but I mean does that matter? With a nice case, a zag full body cover and insurance should that matter? Also, the 16gb no sd card thing doesn't bother me I don't think I'll ever and never have exceeded 4gb.
I only have 2 days to decide.
Thanks everyone in advance
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I would have gone with the nexus s. But I am holding out for the prime
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Yeah, I just read several times the forward cam is garbage do you know about this? I'm wondering all I want to use it for is skyping. Also another big selling point for me was the thought of Ice Cream Sandwich on it soon vs. the shift taking forever if ever getting it. I heard the NS ram is bad is this true?

Well i'm going to be bias in my opinion, but here goes. There's a reason thr Shift does better on almost every review you read. It's a better device ( IMO ) . Yes it doesn't have a foward facing camera. But if that's the only deciding factor, than just get an EVO4G. Way better than the Nexus S. Plus even though it's been put on EOL. It's still got a lot of life in it. I've had a lot of chances to use other devices, and compare them head to head with the Shift. In the end the Shift always wins. Just a better device than most out there, very underated. So I would say stick with the Shift. But what the Hell do I know .

I've owned a lot of phones and the Nexus is one of them. Few things of consideration..I'd say the WiFi on the Nexus bests the Shift, to answer that question. For me, the battery life on the Nexus is not as good as the Shift. Also, the radio in the Nexus has issues. Poor reception. At home, even roaming, I could barely send a text. This was my biggest reason to part with it and go back to HTC. Other than that I felt the Nexus was a nice phone. No issues with build quality and the Super Amoled kicks ass.
Also, if you are a big tweaker/flasher consider that there are a few rooted roms for the Nexus, but not much. And they are all plain AOSP so they are pretty much the same.

If the Nexus S was out when I got the shift I would have got the Nexus instead. Don't get me wrong I love the shift to death, but unless you want to keep the sense ui then get the Nexus. (I think they even ported HTC Sense to the Nexus S)
Yes the shift is fast-but the nexus is faster, has a better screen, and also a ffc.
Although if you stick with the shift its still an amazing phone

If you don't care about a physical keyboard, get the NS4G. I really want my next phone to have an AMOLED. Plus the support we get from HTC is non-existent for the shift.
Also, the Nexus phone should get the Ice Cream Sandwich update, where the Shift will need to go the AOSP/CM route (most likely, because of non-existent support mentioned above).

Tell ya what if you don't want to trade your shift for a nexus s then let me have the trade. you can have my shift all rooted and ready to go. I want that sleek curvy s in my hands.
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Ill tell ya cuz I'm doing this right now. I'm selling my shift Sunday and getting the NS4G Tuesday. I love my shift to death but I want a new toy. But since you can get a shift for the same price on eBay as a ns4g than go for it!
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[Q] Which phone to purchase

Hey guys,
I've been following xda-developers for last few months and it totally rocks.
Now I've been using Sony ericsson w950i (unlocked) until now.
Been thinking of moving to smart phone.
Now I'm confused, I don't care about carrier (though using ATT for now)
Here r choices: 1. Evo 2. DroidX 3. xperia X10
I don't want an iphone and I can't purchase Nexus One (which I would have if I had enough money :-/)
Anyway so here are criteria for phone:
1. Can be rooted, I like cynogenmod and I may hardly use original android
Here r few of my assumptions (PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong)
I can't use proprietary UIs if I put cynogen (it doesn't matter but I wanna confirm)
Evo is my ultimate choice but heard battery sucks (what about spare battery solution ?), How severe is battery issue?
Please feel free to provide ur opinion about other phones as well. I may eventually end up purchasing Evo still I want some experienced opinions
Thanks
Evo is a great phone. It IS starting to get old. Perhaps wait till christmas to see what new phones HTC brings out?
THe X10 is outdated and will most likely only ever see android 2.1 so Id steer clear of it. In fact, I dont intend on buying any more SE phones but thats just me. .
The droid x seems amazing, can be rooted but its quite big in hand (but i suppose youre looking at the EVO so thats similar )
Have you considered the Samsung Galaxy S phones? including the AT&T captivate?
They can be rooted, unlocked, will certainly see cyanogen mod development and because there are sooo many of them around now both locally and internationally (unlike droid x and evo), there will be lots of development for them. Specs wise, they are the top gun.
Personally, id wait a bit and see what comes around the corner. If you still want what youve listed here, youll get a better deal seeing as many will flock to the new devices
Cheers!
I love the Evo. It's my mini tiny PC. Battery wise, well it does juice it up quite much...but then again I am constantly on my fone so I got Ian charges, dock for home, n extra battery as well.
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Thanks guys,
As ozy pointed out waiting till Christmas/new year would be best possible option even for me, however don't want to renew my contract with ATT for one year just for that (will certainly look for something though)
And about Samsung phones I'm bit skeptic (fragile and get heated -- well thats 5-6 years back experience, never used it again so I'm not saying they r bad however I'm just being doubtful, though amoled screens r worth checking out)
And thanks anani exactly thats how I'm planning to use (though its on internet forever than on phone) I would appreciate if u can point out battery accessories links
lengthy bump..
If you are happy with AT&T I would get the Captivate. I have an Evo, love it, but my wife gets her phone through work so is stuck with AT&T. She recently upgraded from the Iphone, which she always hated, to the Samsung captivate. I have rooted it (simple compared to the Evo) and done a few mods, got rid of AT&T's market censorship, enabled side loading, and got rid of all the AT&T bloatware, and replaced most of the supplied apps with better ones from the market.
Running it side by side with my Evo I have to say, while I like the Evo better, but it has some advantages. The screen is much better looking, it has slightly more responsive touch input than the Evo, and Touchwiz is a less bloated UI than Sense. On the downside, the only two things I can find to complain about with it is that the bottom buttons are not as responsive as the Evo's, and the GPS on it takes a long time to lock and isn't as sensitive as the Evo's is. I am working on improving the GPS now though with some success. It will also be getting Froyo within the next few weeks, and rumor is the button issue may be addressed with the update.
Overall though, I like the captivate, especially since the phone call quality is really good, it is light weight and seems to be built very well. Also the screen fps isn't capped at 30 fps like the Evo is. If I was on AT&T that is what I would get.
You don't even need to think about it
HTC Desire with OLED mon ...
Thanks wfrandy and seals,
I'm kinda annoyed with at&t network at my place, most of the time I've had complains from friends saying "I tried your phone for whole day" and etc plus I'm not really in for data usage cap. Thats the main reason I'm hanging on my old phone else I could have renewed my contract by now.
But yea Captivate seems nice and Samsung strategy to make phones as open as possible is also tempting.
And about Desire - is it available with any carrier? I thought desire is not available in US market
hmm,
So I've a deal for htc droid incredible, verizon is giving it for free.
What are your reviews? I liked phone the only downside to the phones we were comparing seems to be 3.7" screen and no 4g connectivity
Please let me know if anyone have used the phone
Thanks

[Q] how is it, Mytouch 4g owners? tell me please. :)

Hey guys!!!
I'm just wondering what you all think of the mytouch. I played with the g2, and I like it. I like the keyboard, and the screen looks better to me IMO.
However, with gingerbread proally coming out soon (PROBABLY) , that'll slow updates, for the MT right, because of mySense?
I LOVE THE MT4G. LOVELOVE.
I use facebook a lot
I text a lot
I like more customization
i'll probably root, overclock, and flash a custom rom when a lot of them become available.
mySense seems allright!
i consider myself an intermediate to advanced smartphone junky.
What phone should I get, and how do you like it?
I'm also worried that it's been a few months since the g2 came out, and its not even at the front at my TMO store anymore. I don't want to sign a contract and want another one before 3 months.
but the mt4g is! ideally, i wish they would add that g2 keyboard to the mytouch 4g and keep that z-hinge, it seems cool to me.
thanks!
so, should i get it? hows your experiences!? thanks.
its really important, i need a new phone before monday .
cmon guys please. 12 views, noone replies?
i just am deciding if i like mysense, and if its worth losing that amazing keyboard the g2 has. though the screen is only .1 inch bigger, the mytouch screen seems way bigger! i like it in my hand.
Well I have no experience with the MT4G yet as I am gonna get it today. My first decision was to get the G2 but after doing countless research (youtube reviews!) and comparisons of the two, I fell in love with the myTouch over the G2. The hard keyboard of the G2 doesn't really matter to me, the onscreen keyboard is good if not better with Swype. I prefer vanilla android over other UIs but mySense seems to have a lot of interesting tweaks and features that I might enjoy having. If we don't like it then there's rooting of course as I'm sure there will be plenty of roms available soon. The updates are the only thing that have me a bit worried but like I said, rooting the phone might ease the pain of dragging updates by flashing 2.3 roms if available.
Not sure if this might help but its worth noting i think.
Good luck on choosing your next phone!
I've had both the G2 & the MT4G and I'm a lot happier with the MT4G.
The G2 seemed too bricky for my tastes and I really didn't use the hard keyboard to compensate. MySense is not as good as full fledged sense but it's not a huge difference.
I know not too long after gingerbread comes out we'll probably have a Rom to flash it on our phones so updates don't worry me so much.
I think it really comes down to if you want a hard keyboard or a front facing camera. I chose the front facing camera & less bulkiness
rockstarar said:
cmon guys please. 12 views, noone replies?
i just am deciding if i like mysense, and if its worth losing that amazing keyboard the g2 has. though the screen is only .1 inch bigger, the mytouch screen seems way bigger! i like it in my hand.
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maybe because this is the 15th "how do you like your mytouch" "is it better then the g2" thread.
people need to learn how to read before they start typing
I have had the G2 and now the MT4G and although the G2 is a very very good phone I must say that I believe the MT4G is the best all around phone I have ever owned, I also have a Vibrant and a Nexus One at this time but I am going to sell the Nexus One. All of these are Great phones IMO but the G2(hinge issues, connection issues,radio issues)and the Nexus One( touch screen issues at times,signal issues) and the Vibrant(virtually no GPS until just a short time ago, lags etc.signal issues) do not seem to compare with the all stability of the MT4G of which the only issue I have found was a slight glitch in MMS messaging which is now covered. All of this is obviously just my opinions but if I had to go with just 1 phone right now it would be the MT4G
The MT4G is T-Mobiles top phone for a reason....
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The MT4G is T-Mobiles top phone for a reason....
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BOO-YA.
I gave up my mint N1 for the MT4G. I know there aren't many ROM's for it yet, and God knows how long it will take to get Amon_RA, but it took a good month before there were ROM's to flash for the N1. With Android 2.3 so close to being released it's just a matter of time before we get a vanilla gingerbread ROM for this device.
The Mytouch is a great handset but after using it for a couple of days I'm not that impressed....I will be selling or trading mine soon...
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I just got mine hours ago and am loving it. I got it because I've always wanted a Sense device, and the hardware is second to none (for now)...2nd gen Snapdragon and an outstanding 768MB RAM!
cam_hamlin said:
The Mytouch is a great handset but after using it for a couple of days I'm not that impressed....I will be selling or trading mine soon...
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I'm with ya... Came over from an Evo and just can't get used to the hard keys at the bottom instead of the touch-keys. Also experiencing some automatic re-boots (3 in three days) and some text sending problems (I already turned of the Teklia). If the Evo had been a GSM phone, I would have brought it to TMO (sprint really sucks in this town). I'm looking for a GSM Evo-clone! My only other choice will be ATT in about a month when they come to town, but they don't have any decent androids yet (sorry, the samsung captivate just doesn't do it for me... the touch screen is terrible)
cam_hamlin said:
The Mytouch is a great handset but after using it for a couple of days I'm not that impressed....I will be selling or trading mine soon...
Out of curiosity, what is the disappointing part of it for you?
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Nexus One owner who absolutely loves the My Touch 4G. Will always keep the N1 for the almost instant upgrades but the hardware on this My Touch is 2nd to none. This phone has it all and it all works. I'm getting use to this non vanilla Android for lack of a better word but using Launcher Pro this thing is dynamite. Best phone to date besides the Nexus One of course. Seriously the My Touch 4G is probably the best phone I have ever owned. The Nexus One will always be my go to phone, I'm just always drawned to that thing.
PS
The HSPA+ was just flipped on in my town. Live in a suburb outside Boston and getting between 3.5 to 5.5 Mbps on download and 1.5 on upload. I was usually getting around 900-950 kbps on the download. What a major diifference and these speeds are in my town and most surrounding towns. T-Mobile is killing this area with their great network. I am in freaken heaven. Thank You T-Mobile.
Those speeds are on my Nexus One. My Touch 4G is higher.
I had the EVO for almost a month (trial period). While I agree the bigger screen is great, it seems a little more washed out, maybe due to the fact that the same resolution is now scretched to accomedate a 4.3'' screen. The capacitive buttons on the bottom was a wash for me. I find myself accidently hitting them sometimes. I much prefer the physical keys. Battery life on the MT4G is much better. I could never manage to squeeze 10 hours from the EVO (moderate use). So, I chose the MT4G over the EVO. The only thing I did like about the EVO was the original SENSEUI on it, Tmobile's version is a little sloppy. Just my experience and opinion.
Your device is clearly defective, get a warranty exchange. That, or your lying.
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I'm with ya... Came over from an Evo and just can't get used to the hard keys at the bottom instead of the touch-keys. Also experiencing some automatic re-boots (3 in three days) and some text sending problems (I already turned of the Teklia). If the Evo had been a GSM phone, I would have brought it to TMO (sprint really sucks in this town). I'm looking for a GSM Evo-clone! My only other choice will be ATT in about a month when they come to town, but they don't have any decent androids yet (sorry, the samsung captivate just doesn't do it for me... the touch screen is terrible)
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rockstarar said:
Hey guys!!!
I'm just wondering what you all think of the mytouch. I played with the g2, and I like it. I like the keyboard, and the screen looks better to me IMO.
However, with gingerbread proally coming out soon (PROBABLY) , that'll slow updates, for the MT right, because of mySense?
I LOVE THE MT4G. LOVELOVE.
I use facebook a lot
I text a lot
I like more customization
i'll probably root, overclock, and flash a custom rom when a lot of them become available.
mySense seems allright!
i consider myself an intermediate to advanced smartphone junky.
What phone should I get, and how do you like it?
I'm also worried that it's been a few months since the g2 came out, and its not even at the front at my TMO store anymore. I don't want to sign a contract and want another one before 3 months.
but the mt4g is! ideally, i wish they would add that g2 keyboard to the mytouch 4g and keep that z-hinge, it seems cool to me.
thanks!
so, should i get it? hows your experiences!? thanks.
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LOVE the hardware, but don't like Sense. Waiting for CM6 to come out. You could always pick up a used Nexus or Vibrant for $300 or so. Or buy this one from T-mo for $450 ish without contract and then trade up later if you really want...

Nexus S or LG G2x?

Hey Everybody,
*Posted this up in the LG forum for the Optimus 2x. Wondering what thoughts you all may have as well.Thanks!
Well I've had my Nexus S since March 23 and I've really enjoyed trying out various roms and tinkering around with the Android OS. (I came from an iPhone 4 on at&t.) Now I feel like I'm at a crossroad trying to decide what phone to stick with for the next year or so. I have till the 23 to return the nexus to best buy. I bought unlocked and if I do decide to switch I'll do the same with the G2x. How many of you are coming from the nexus s on this forum and what made you want to switch the most? I'm primarily concerned with the battery life on the G2x and updates either from LG or modders. The things I don't like about the nexus s are 3G data speeds (2.5-3 down and 1-1.5 up in my area, Birmingham, AL) and 1 day to day in a half battery life. What would you guys or girls do in a similar situation? Can anyone comment on the "4G" data speeds in this area of the country or in general on T-Mobile? I've read various reports of speeds from 5-9 Mbps down and your average up. I also hope the 4G won't kill battery and we'll have a killswitch when not in use. I'm sure most have seen the mobileburn video, she seemed to put down the nexus s screen in favor of the G2x. I find that hard to believe seeing how awesome the samoled screen looks and how black the blacks are. Anyone who's seen the G2x in store that can confirm the findings she had? Thanks for any help anyone can offer up!
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Currently running CM7, 1.2 Ghz, NSCollab 1.0.18
Lg, you won't have to beta test android, and you will get more features out of the box most likely.
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the nexus s will always get first hand on new version of the update, i chose the nexus s because it contains no junk.
I think you can make an argument for both phones either way. The differences I really see in the phones is that the LG has 4g, a dual core processor, hdmi out, and records 1080p...whereas the nexus S has NFC, gingerbread, sip calling (feature of gingerbread).
I don't see the G2X having 4g that big of a deal to me considering that I regularly get 3-6 megs download speed on my Nexus S. I compared it with a friends Galaxy S on 4g and we pretty much always got around the same speeds ( so I don't really see the 4g speed being a big difference maker...it just sounds good).
The G2X has a dual core processor...well I don't have any speed problems with the Nexus S at all. The phone runs perfectly fine and doesn't slow down, so yeah dual core sounds good but at the present time I don't think it is really going to be truly taken advantage of and is thus overkill.
For me, I had hdmi out on my evo and never once used it, so that is a moot point for me.
1080p recording in my opinion is another one of those things that just sounds good to have. In reality it really isn't any more useful than standard def recording. On my EVO and my Nexus one I could record in 720p and all that really resulted in was much larger video files. I'm not sure I even saw a noticeable difference in video clarity than in standard def.
Eventually the G2X will get gingerbread I'm sure, but in the meantime I would miss having SIP calling as I do use it. As for the Nexus S having NFC, that's another one of those things that sounds good, but until it is actually put to use in the real world it isn't very useful.
All in all I don't see enough difference in the G2X to warrant me taking back my Nexus S (I'm still in my return policy) and paying more for the G2X. I just don't see what I'd be paying more for.
I don't get caught up in the speed war. 3g or 4g, for 99% of what I do, I don't think I would see a difference, both are fast. Tethering might be impacted, but it's something I rarely do.
Hardware wise, both phones are blazing fast. So in the end, it comes down to software, pure google or lg's framework and update schedule
I other the google experience, unpolluted by anyone.
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I'm still on the fence. No 4G in my area. My Nexus is plenty fast. I'll have to play with one.
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For me the g2x would be less then the nexus s. 529 vs 499. I figure if im paying roughly the same price why not get something more technologically advanced right?
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Cheeze[iT] said:
For me the g2x would be less then the nexus s. 529 vs 499. I figure if im paying roughly the same price why not get something more technologically advanced right?
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in terms of hardware.. yes, in terms of software... no
and hardware isn't that far off, you're losing Super AMOLED
You could always return the Nexus S. Get the G2X. Then decide. If you liked the NS better, you can return the G2X and go buy the NS again or keep the G2X. Whatever you decided to go with.
I looked into the Nexus One forum once and they were calling the G2X the TRUE NEXUS 2 PHONE. Yeah, I was like ? They really need to get their minds out of the gutter. I saw an unboxing video and the G2X still had some T-Mobile apps in there like the App Pack, Telenav, and some other ones. So it's not even a "true Google experience phone" per say.
You could also wait for the HTC Sensation. Now, that is the phone that I would be willing to give up the NS for, but I wouldn't since I like the NS and will be keeping it until another Nexus phone comes out.
I suggest trying both since you have that option and decide for yourself. You're money, you make the call.
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You could always return the Nexus S. Get the G2X. Then decide. If you liked the NS better, you can return the G2X and go buy the NS again or keep the G2X. Whatever you decided to go with.
I looked into the Nexus One forum once and they were calling the G2X the TRUE NEXUS 2 PHONE. Yeah, I was like ? They really need to get their minds out of the gutter. I saw an unboxing video and the G2X still had some T-Mobile apps in there like the App Pack, Telenav, and some other ones. So it's not even a "true Google experience phone" per say.
You could also wait for the HTC Sensation. Now, that is the phone that I would be willing to give up the NS for, but I wouldn't since I like the NS and will be keeping it until another Nexus phone comes out.
I suggest trying both since you have that option and decide for yourself. You're money, you make the call.
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Agreed its preloaded with N.O.V.A. too. But I give props for making "stocklike" ROMs as their stock.
And it won't necessarily mean it'll have top of the line updates either.
Look at the G2, WOOOOOH its stock! where's gingerbread? Yeah. thats right. (Not counting CM7)
IMO: Galaxy S II > HTC Sensation > LG G2x
I personally dont like G2x's bottom. It has WAY too much room.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/15/htc-sensation-versus-the-rest-of-the-dual-core-world-smartphone/
Let me start by saying that I really love my nexus s, it's fast, and with cyanogenmod the battery life is awesome. The screen is great, but coming from an AMOLED phone before this, I don't get the hype.
That said, if I were to make a decision about a phone now, I'd go for the LG. With the tegra 2 chip, the phone is plenty future proof. Nvidia seems pretty serious about taking the phone market with apps specifically for the tegra 2 chip. I know there's no point in playing the ghz game, it's endless, but if you can do it for free (nearly) then I don't see why you shouldn't go through with the swap.
Part of the reason I bought my nexus s was stock android, but cyanogenmod offers battery life and all the awesomeness of stock.
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/18/rumor-samsung-to-release-2ghz-dual-core-phone-as-powerful-as-a-pc/
I think I just destroyed your dreams
Bye Bye G2x/Sensation/GalaxyS2's Hype.

SGS4 or Nexus S

Im so confused on which one to get. I mean the SGS2 is a vibrant with 4g pretty much? And i dont know if the nexus s has 4g capability? I can get the sgs4 for 139. and the nexus s off best buy for 99. Really want to based this on development. So any info i would appericate it
nexus is best your choice .
Can you give me a more detailed answer as in why? I mean i like the sgs4 cause i always liked the vibrant. But the nexus s does have development. The only thing that scares me is the Internal 16gb which will lead into corrupting if a bad flash is done!
I recently had to make the same decision and had friends with both I borrowed for a week.
The nexus s is amazingly fast. It boots and shuts down in a fraction of the time. It has flash for the camera. It has gps that actually works right out of the box. It has a cooler design and a much more solid feel. It has the nfc that you will probably never use. It has premium support and google ota updates of the newest stuffs. The usb port also has a much nicer feel.
Video playback is poor compared to the vibrant.
It lacks support for most 3d games.
There is no sd card slot
No gorilla glass
I have owned several vibrants and everything that is true for them is true for the sgs4g. The screen is amazing and is protected by gorilla glass. Video playback is second to none. Games play like a dream.
Gps is essentially unusable on most handsets.
The case is cheap feeling and looking.
No flash for camera
I decided video playback and game support was more important than flash and gps but I am upset those are the best choices. You might be wise to just wait for the price to drop on the x2.
Texted While Driving
Im coming from sprint. I had both evo and epic. The evo had great devs, while the epic has little to no support at all. CM7 and MIUI are still in alpha stages. I just dont want the sgs4 to be like the epic. I was looking at the lg gxs or whatever their having alot of issues on the first batch released(bleeding screen, phone wont connect to 3g) Mt4g(feels cheap though) sgs4 or nexus are the only ones i would consider getting.
If I could go back in time I would choose the mt4g rooted with cm7, sgs4g has its benefits like said earlier except I don't use it for movies or gaming I bounce between apps often and fast and the sgs4g would sometimes lag.
So I bought the g2x and while it is wicked fast and extremely strong with already great support for development, the phone has its issues and chooses when the issues will come up, I would just go scan the general thread for the g2x real quick
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It seems to me, the SGS4G is slow to get developer support for ROMS and such. That is the only reason I regret owning one. However, after rooting and applying the FOTA fix, it is a cool phone.
From my understanding, phones like the Nexus will have tons of ROMS and customization because they are not tainted by integrations such as Samsung's Touch Wiz and are easier to work with.
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Sgs4g I like the video playback but thats just my opinion. Gps is pretty good for me and it is true no dev support on the sgs4g I mean not as much as other phonea so of you are looking to play around with the phone like changing roms and kernels stuff like that I wouldnt recommend unless you dont mind waiting which is my case I dont mind waiting so I dont have any complaints. One last thing it does lag here and there but is not that bad. Really cant say much about nexus s I havent even play with it. G2x was mentioned it is a beast pgone but I went to the g2x forums and there were a los of complaints with the screen you ahould go check it out. Best thing to do is just go to the forums of each device and read about it, comments and complaints and it would help a lot.
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I think the sgs4g is the best device I've owned but thats after doing some system tweaks like getting root, freezing some apps, alter minfree to strict settings for better ram handling when swapping applications, changing the disk scheduler to deadline, doing the fota files fix and getting a class 6 micro sd card. After all that this phone has never lag or failed period. But out the box...is fast. Once u have used it for about a week or two thats when you could start seing lag by either apps you have downloaded and new services running in the background not counting the unnecesary ones that were already running when you first get it...gps works flawlesly and so does everything else, but thats after you hack the phone the way you want it...
Up to you though...
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The only reason the Nexus s is any faster is because it came stock with the ext4 file system. Our phones have the same file system as the Vibrant (rfs) It is not efficient, and that is where our lag is coming from.
We will start seeing some ROMS that will have ext4 built into them. When we do get this we will see quad scores around 1700-1800. To give you an idea our phones stock will score around 900. EXT4 ruffly doubles the speeds of the system. Now if you add ext4 with an overclocked kernel. The scores will be around if not higher than 2000.
This phone will be very fast and stable in not to long.
Thanks guys for the help. I went to go play with the following phones today:
g2x- Front looks really nice, and the display showed sharped for lcd. BUT my epic seems faster? and the back of the phone is FUGLY I mean the color, color........color lol! Reminds me of those cheap boost mobile off the wall colors. A case may solve that problem but i wouldnt pay 200 for it knowing how the back looked to me.
g2- Fast little thing, seen the potiental of it on xda, pretty much a better looking sprint htc evo shift 4G. BUT the demo hinge was BARELY on the phone. Soo going have to pass on that looks like a future problem.
mt4g- The best one of the group. Fast, comfortable in hand, light and Fast and xda support helps it there in my book. BUT its looks cheap. I mean how the color contrast clash on the phone. If i got one had to be either be the red one or white one.
sgs4- Some idiot STOLE THE DEMO! soooo i gotta go back tomorrow to look at it!!!
Nexus s- Actually locally a guy was selling one on CL. So i meet him to look at it. the screen is awesome of course cause of the superman screen lol! BUT the phone Looks cheaper than the mt4g!!!! I mean its all plastic and black gloss. Drop it and your gonna be hurting really bad. Also you have to deal with best buy and google since they sell it and tmobile just provides the service. I may sound anal but im a complex thinker and i always think ahead of myself.
Whole day of researching and im still confused and dont know which one to get lol!!!!
903tex said:
Im coming from sprint. I had both evo and epic. The evo had great devs, while the epic has little to no support at all. CM7 and MIUI are still in alpha stages. I just dont want the sgs4 to be like the epic. I was looking at the lg gxs or whatever their having alot of issues on the first batch released(bleeding screen, phone wont connect to 3g) Mt4g(feels cheap though) sgs4 or nexus are the only ones i would consider getting.
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I'm a proud owner of a G2x... though some screens have bleeding issues.... mine doesn't... There are plenty of G2x's that are doing just fine, it's just easier to complain.... If you do have issues, you will have a 1 year warranty which means you will be able to switch it when new batches come out and by then issues should have been fixed... Whatever you do BUY THE PHONE IN STORE to test the device... Play with the settings and everything! If you are going to get a phone GET THE BEST there is to offer you and right now that would be the G2x...
SGS4G and Nexus S both have their flaws and are similar devices... The Nexus S isn't 4g capable (if that matters to you)... the SGS4G isn't anything to dazzle over and the Touch Wiz UI isn't my favorite... If you can wait a little longer it may be worth looking at the HTC Sensation...
No offense but i dont see why people rave so much about the sensation. Its a dual core evo 4g. Had two evo 4g when i was with sprint.......Nothing special. Sure it will probably have a bunch of dev support. But to me its not something wanting on for.
But after reading more reviews and seeing on the g2x side. Its not seeming so bad now. Also you have to consider that im coming to tmobile so late while the g2 mt4g and nexus s are kinda old i guess you can say. Even though the g2 and mt4g will get 2.3 but i think thats about it for them as OTA updates.
the Nexus S 4G...on TMO...would be......oh wait...why am I dreaming again
Get teh Samsung Galaxy S4G if you're planning to get a data plan and actually use it
SGS4
Very low internal space, 200MB as apposed to the Vibrants 16G. The phone benchmarks pretty low. But it does have the fastest antenna at 21mbs.
Nexus S
Wow it has a curved screen..... but no SD card support???? Why? Pretty cool but the download speeds will be lower because no 4g support.
If you're looking for the best I suggest the G2x or G2. I personaly use the G2 and it is amazing. But tmo just launched the G2x and it is to die for. Amazing 8MP camera, dual core processor, hdmi out for hdtv support. Get that if anything, the two phones you're deciding between have already been out dated by the G2x.
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Wait til the Sensation or even better the SGS 2....but wait something will come out better right after...mytouch 4g slide anyone...??
It sounds like the price is a concern of the op.... I say go for the nexus s... the network speed increase with the sgs4g is not enough to overcome the lack of developer support. And its cheaper. Then again... the g2x is your best choice ATM... if you have the $$$.
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I had the SGS4G and exchanged it for the G2x and I have no regrets. This phone is amazingly fast and responsive and dev support is already awesome. Within 2 or 3 days the phone had clockworkmod working through ROM manager.
Pretty amazing. Plus Cyanogen, Team Whiskey and others already got the phone and are working on the ROM.
If you still have a choice I say go with the G2x. Dual core is future proof. Just came out, so this phone will probably be good for the next 2 years.
Hope that helps with your decision
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Galaxy s 2
I'd wait for galaxy s 2! I think i will be the best phone for a while

[Q] Im Just not sure what to do here S3 or N4

First off thanks for your time,
That being said Ive gotten myself into a Brain boot loop that I just cant seem to get out of.
So here's the situation Im currently the proud owner of a Samsung GS3 which hands down is a fantastic phone
the phone is currently running CM 10.1 nightly with the KT747 kernel OC'd to 2.1 GHz Thanks to both devs for there fantastic work
so i guess you could say i have somewhat of a "raw" android experience with a few tweeks that is.
Being that its that time of year and tax return is working its way from the IRS to my bank account Ive been considering trading
my GS3 for the N4 but i just cant seem to put my finger on which device is for me so Im turning to the great people of this forum for help
I know the perks and the downfalls of each phone and the arguments on why one is better than the other so here's my stand point
I DONT NEED/USE
-Expandable storage
-LTE is not top priority
-Removable battery is nice but not necessarily a deal breaker
-Camera Im so/so about - not sure if the N4 has 0 shutter lag hoping someone can shed
some light on this for me it is one feature I do really enjoy on the S3 because i do have
kids that love to move around and are hard to get a good picture of but I feel both cameras are up to par
So all that being said I guess Im just looking for some outside opinions at this point
is it really worth me switching to the N4 or should i hold on to my cash and my S3
Again I do appropriate your time and help.
101hottest said:
First off thanks for your time,
That being said Ive gotten myself into a Brain boot loop that I just cant seem to get out of.
So here's the situation Im currently the proud owner of a Samsung GS3 which hands down is a fantastic phone
the phone is currently running CM 10.1 nightly with the KT747 kernel OC'd to 2.1 GHz Thanks to both devs for there fantastic work
so i guess you could say i have somewhat of a "raw" android experience with a few tweeks that is.
Being that its that time of year and tax return is working its way from the IRS to my bank account Ive been considering trading
my GS3 for the N4 but i just cant seem to put my finger on which device is for me so Im turning to the great people of this forum for help
I know the perks and the downfalls of each phone and the arguments on why one is better than the other so here's my stand point
I DONT NEED/USE
-Expandable storage
-LTE is not top priority
-Removable battery is nice but not necessarily a deal breaker
-Camera Im so/so about - not sure if the N4 has 0 shutter lag hoping someone can shed
some light on this for me it is one feature I do really enjoy on the S3 because i do have
kids that love to move around and are hard to get a good picture of but I feel both cameras are up to par
So all that being said I guess Im just looking for some outside opinions at this point
is it really worth me switching to the N4 or should i hold on to my cash and my S3
Again I do appropriate your time and help.
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While the Nexus 4 is beautiful and has higher specs in some parts, I'd recommend saving your money until "the next big thing" comes out like the galaxy s4 or the rumored Motorola X phone.
If you do prefer the stock android experience as that's what you're currently using, you should be fine as the S3 will be almost as good as if you were to get a Nexus 4.
Of course I don't own the devices but I've tried them both for a day or two (friend let me borrow) but I ended up staying with my Galaxy Nexus and decided to save my money as the performance jump isn't that great even from then. The next generation phones do show promise and could possibly be worth upgrading for.
Yea I'm really considering waiting since I did just upgrade to the S3 so if I waited it out the full 18 months they love to stick us with they will have the "super s" or "s5" by then. I think all in all I'll just purchase the Nexus 7.
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Well as already pointed out... I would say wait till the 14th... see what the s4 has to offer, then change your phone...
Personally, considering what you said in the first post... you don't want ANY of the extra things the s3 offers over the N4, but you ARE a fan of what the N4 offers which the s3 doesn't... being kindof vanilla android... being a cm10 user, although the s3 will be supported for a while I'm sure, the amount of time it takes to iron out all the bugs due to not having the Exynos source code, atleast for me was extremely frustrating... with the nexus your always ready to go with any custom rom... with the occasional bug here and there...
But if the s4 again has a exynos, the same dev difficulties will stay... not to mention the super delayed updates... so I personally think, wait for the S4... if it doesn't wow you then get the N4 because it seems its better suited to your needs...
As for getting a nexus 7 instead... google I/O is pretty close... its time for a new nexus 7inch tab so you will most likely see it then and avoid a buyers remorse getting an outdated tab now... rest assured there won't be a new nexus phone just yet... its too soon...
So wait a week and make your decision...
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Not sure how much this will pertain to you, but here's my $.02.
Personally for me I like having the newest version of Android. While some of the bells and whistles of the themes are nice eye candy, I love the vanilla Android with allowing me to install those nice add-ons. While I don't mind loading roms, I don't want to be forced to do that in order to get the newest version within a reasonable amount of time (<a month or two). I bought the galaxy nexus on Verizon the day it came out. First time I ever waited in line before a store opened for a phone. I was so excited. You may or may not know this, but Verizon has taken the nexus name and completely trashed it. My hopes and dreams of having a phone that would always be on the cutting edge of Android was completely trashed because Verizon needed to "perform ample testing to insure the highest quality software", or some BS like that.
Now, I know what you're going to say. You've got a nexus, you're here on XDA, ROOT THAT THING! Yes, I have. I had the bootloader unlocked within 45 minutes of owning the thing, rooted 10 minutes after that. The problem is I bought a nexus to not be forced to F around with roms, unless I wanted to. Verizon has forced my hand to mess around with roms if I want the newest Android.
So, after that long winded answer, I personally would go with the N4 unless you can wait for the next nexus device. All I know is my next phone will be another Nexus, which I'll by directly from google and tell Verizon to go F themselves.
Best of luck.
Edit: I see you were mentioning the N7. I own one of those, bone stock. Did unlock the bootloader and rooted just to put on the circle battery mod. I love it, but personally I'd buy a N10. The 7 isn't that much larger then my galaxy nexus and I wish I had a slightly larger screen. IMO no need for cell-based service when you can teather it to your phone and get the same thing. It's a great device which has replaced taking a laptop with me on vacation. I bought the dongle thing to connect my SD card to it also, which is great for uploading pictures from my camera.
You should buy nexus 4 as it has largest development community and it is the phone which recieves software updates first and its a google certified phone
It has 4g capability
It has no expandability
But a really good camera
And is for only 430 usd
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Cash is king. I'd just hold onto the S3 and wait for the new wave of devices that're coming, e.g. GS4 and One. Things that'll be noticeably better.
N4 buddy!!!
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Thanks you guys i really have taken all of your 2 cents into account and i think Im just going to have to stick with what my heart desires like my wife keeps telling me
Big shout out to
Beauenheim
DrunkFuX666
crackrk
Your inputs have been taken into great consideration over this decision
And as far as waiting for the GS4 I am a Samsung employe not that they let us know the details of the device before it is released but Im on my 3rd Samsung phone I think its time to switch it up besides my set father just lost his iPhone 5 to a tragic toilet accident that could really use a new phone so i think its time to "grab the bull by its horns" and finally get my hands on that sexy Nexus 4.
S3
Good deal, best of luck on your next phone adventure. I have to wait until the end of this year before I can begin mine. Hopefully the next nexus device will be released and may include an LTE radio, though I'll still tell verizon to go F themselves. Unless of course I can buy it from google directly and stay on verizon's network. I know, I can hear your laughing from here. :good:
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Decision
Im do for an upgrade as well soon..im thinking about htc one.. The only thing holding me back is the fact of how much hassle it is to root it.. One reason why i had got the s3 instead of the last htc one.. Before my s3 i had the evo 3d. It was such a pain in the ass to root.. When i switched to s3. I had it rooted in like 25 min.. I really liked that.. But i do miss htc platform..im on sprint so the nexus 4is not offered.. They did come out with galaxy nexus. I am excited to see what the s4 holds.. I dont know..lol
I hear the s4 will be released unfinished. Something about the CPU overheating so it getting something less powerful and curved glass is not ready so its getting regular glass. Plus no superamoled because they get that display to do full 1080p
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R: [Q] Im Just not sure what to do here S3 or N4
Well if you really do not care at all for all those cool features that make the galaxy s3 (and its awesome screen) somewhat great better than other phones....really theres no point in waiting for the galaxy s4 uts probably just gonna be faster..
You might as well get the nexus 4.
I have a feeling it would make your life more of a pain compared to the s3 but u sai u dont care about the cool specs...so go for the cheapest, no point saving up money
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