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Mt4g vs Nexus s..

Should I get a Nexus s??
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search the forum, there are so many other threads about this.
you're on the Nexus S forum, so the biased majority is going to say "yes" and the trolls who come to the NS forums to flame are going to attempt to bash it.
In the end, it's really your decision.

nexus s is a nice device. i personally do not like samsung phones and prefer htc but the nexus s is a nice device with many features. id like to try it for a month to see how that curved glass is.
many variables to weigh, cost, carrier, plans, etc. the nexus s will put you with at&t or t-mo. have you considered the samsung galaxy s 4G with t-mo?
good luck!

tailsthecat3 said:
nexus s is a nice device. i personally do not like samsung phones and prefer htc but the nexus s is a nice device with many features. id like to try it for a month to see how that curved glass is.
many variables to weigh, cost, carrier, plans, etc. the nexus s will put you with at&t or t-mo. have you considered the samsung galaxy s 4G with t-mo?
good luck!
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Galaxy S 4G is a nono. It's pretty much a Vibrant + FFC (Mod can apply FFC to Vibrant) + 4G
Like I've said in all the other "Nexus S vs <X>" threads. If having the latest versions of Android is something you want, a Nexus device will fit you perfectly. Kernels etc will be open sourced asap.

zephiK said:
Galaxy S 4G is a nono. It's pretty much a Vibrant + FFC (Mod can apply FFC to Vibrant) + 4G
Like I've said in all the other "Nexus S vs <X>" threads. If having the latest versions of Android is something you want, a Nexus device will fit you perfectly. Kernels etc will be open sourced asap.
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i dont think that necessarily means that the galaxy s 4g is a no-no. i wouldnt buy it because i havent liked a sammy mobile device since my sch-a530 but dude is right though, if you want the latest android version before anyone else...get the nexus.

tailsthecat3 said:
i dont think that necessarily means that the galaxy s 4g is a no-no. i wouldnt buy it because i havent liked a sammy mobile device since my sch-a530 but dude is right though, if you want the latest android version before anyone else...get the nexus.
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I think it does, it's just revamped and I honestly don't think it's worth $199.99 because of the phones that are going to be coming out this year.
I personally just wouldn't get it because its a 2.0 of a same phone with added some basic features.
4G? Naaw.. I'm not downloading from my phone so I can care less about these speeds. And they're all theoretical.
FFC? Honestly.. I don't ever even use FFC. I have my NS and haven't used it once except day one when i was checking it out within Camera.
Also it is a punch in the face to owners of a Vibrant. Just imagine a week from now Google released 'Nexus S2'.. same phone but added 720p camera and a SD card slot with 4G.
TBH.. The only reason why I prefer Nexus S is because its maintained by Google without relying on manufacturers and carriers adding bloatware onto the phone. It allows the best possible Android experience.
Other phone in mind? T-Mobile G2X (Optimus 2X) -- but its not Stock Experience.

I prefer nexus s coming from a g2 iPhone 4 and "vibrant 4g" I love the way the sns looks its to sexy just my opinion
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Well I got a Nexus S and my wife has a myTouch 4G so I can give you an honest answer here.
My wife is using the base stock SENSE rom and she is constantly restarting her phone after heavy usage. (if you flash to like CM7 or one of the mt4g ROMs this probably won't be an issue) We web browser is so much nicer on her's because of the hardware acceleration with flash, I just put flash to load on demand on my web browser and everything is quick. As far as the processor they are pretty much a match yet I have overclocked my Nexus S and it makes her mt4G look slow.
As far as weight the Nexus S is noticeably lighter. The battery life is about the same to be honest, they both have similar battery ratings and I am getting more now since SetCPU tweaks and downclocking profiles when not in use.
Now here in Atlanta, or the area that I live just south of Atlanta, my 3G service keeps up with her in all the 4G areas, are speed tests are about equal. T-Mo just hasn't really got the speeds up down here, but to be honest 4G is really not going to make a huge difference on your phone, maybe if your going to tether in areas with proper HSDA+.
I bought my phone because I wanted to pure android and quicker updates and a device that is more exclusive in my area (my best buy told me that they only sold 15 since they came out). But again if you are going to root and do custom ROMs then you won't have to worry about waiting for updates and such.
They are both great phones, and the Nexus S is going to have its bugs since you get to test the newest releases of android before it really gets mainstream use on other devices.

I had the MT4G for a couple weeks before the Nexus S was released. I have a rooted, overclocked, Nexus S; my wife has a completely stock Nexus S; and my daughter has a MT4G. Both of them count on me to pretty much do all updates, install apps, etc on their phones so I use all 3 a lot.
My phone is the best of all 3. My wife's is the next best. The MT4G has much more lag than the Nexus S due to Sense even though it has more RAM it still isn't enough. The only advantage the MT4G has is during tethering the 4G data speeds are nice, but I rarely tether so it doesn't make that much of a difference.
Here are my opinions on which phone is better in different areas:
1. Hardware quality: Nexus S
2. Speed/lag: Nexus S
3. Data speed: MT4G, but only cell data and not by much
4. Call quality: equal
5. Battery: equal
6. Look and feel of OS: Nexus S
7. WiFi calling: right now only on MT4G
8. Camera: equal
Other features a plus for Nexus: Google updates, no HTC screwing things up. No Sense slowing the phone down. Better screen.
MT4G advantages: Hard buttons vs capacitive (personal preference). LED notification light. 4G.

I am in a similar situation as well, GF has the mytouch4g and I have the SNS. Like brokenwall said, the MT4G gets real slow under heavy use. Battery for me is significantly longer although i dont have setcpu installed, the phone itself has nice power management. Weight of phone is really a personal decison, coming from a HD2, I prefer metal battery covers and the slightly heavier weight of the MT4G but thats just me. One of the big ups about the nexus is it coming already unlocked, of course you can always unlock the MT4G but the SNS has a higher resell value if you ever change your mind
Overall i would recommend the SNS but both phone are nice.

can you guys stop calling the Nexus S a SNS.. it is NS
Nexus One wasnt called GN1/GNO or HN1/HNO.. it was called N1

Nexus s great phone.
Mt4g if you root. And put cm7 or iced glaciar its insane.
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G2x Or Nexus S?

Hey Everybody,
Well I've had my Nexus S since March 23 and I've really enjoyed trying out various roms and tinkering around with the Android OS. (I came from an iPhone 4 on at&t.) Now I feel like I'm at a crossroad trying to decide what phone to stick with for the next year or so. I have till the 23 to return the nexus to best buy. I bought unlocked and if I do decide to switch I'll do the same with the G2x. How many of you are coming from the nexus s on this forum and what made you want to switch the most? I'm primarily concerned with the battery life on the G2x and updates either from LG or modders. The things I don't like about the nexus s are 3G data speeds (2.5-3 down and 1-1.5 up in my area, Birmingham, AL) and 1 day to day in a half battery life. What would you guys or girls do in a similar situation? Can anyone comment on the "4G" data speeds in this area of the country or in general on T-Mobile? I've read various reports of speeds from 5-9 Mbps down and your average up. I also hope the 4G won't kill battery and we'll have a killswitch when not in use. I'm sure most have seen the mobileburn video, she seemed to put down the nexus s screen in favor of the G2x. I find that hard to believe seeing how awesome the samoled screen looks and how black the blacks are. Anyone who's seen the G2x in store that can confirm the findings she had? Thanks for any help anyone can offer up!
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kflanegan said:
Hey Everybody,
Well I've had my Nexus S since March 23 and I've really enjoyed trying out various roms and tinkering around with the Android OS. (I came from an iPhone 4 on at&t.) Now I feel like I'm at a crossroad trying to decide what phone to stick with for the next year or so. I have till the 23 to return the nexus to best buy. I bought unlocked and if I do decide to switch I'll do the same with the G2x. How many of you are coming from the nexus s on this forum and what made you want to switch the most? I'm primarily concerned with the battery life on the G2x and updates either from LG or modders. The things I don't like about the nexus s are 3G data speeds (2.5-3 down and 1-1.5 up in my area, Birmingham, AL) and 1 day to day in a half battery life. What would you guys or girls do in a similar situation? Can anyone comment on the "4G" data speeds in this area of the country or in general on T-Mobile? I've read various reports of speeds from 5-9 Mbps down and your average up. I also hope the 4G won't kill battery and we'll have a killswitch when not in use. I'm sure most have seen the mobileburn video, she seemed to put down the nexus s screen in favor of the G2x. I find that hard to believe seeing how awesome the samoled screen looks and how black the blacks are. Anyone who's seen the G2x in store that can confirm the findings she had? Thanks for any help anyone can offer up!
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ive only played around with the nexus s so i cant say its better
i can point out things the G2x has over the nexus
DUAL CORE
1080p video/mirroring
4G
and a few more
i am a past VIBRANT/SGS4G owner and can confirm the G2x screen is more "vibrant" than the Super amoled BUT nothing can top the AMOLED blacks/dark colors
i held the SGS4G up to the "test" G2x the local store has with the brightness turned all the way down on both the G2x is much brigher (battery killer?)
and with them turned all the way up (both)
id say the G2x is still brighter/more colorful
i love samsung for their screens but remember just like the nexus this is a GOOGLE phone so updates will come alot quicker than a bloated phone
obviously the dual core vs single core is speaking for its self
and the 1080p video/mirroring does too
the 4G in my area (wisconsin) isnt that great but i did notice hella faster speedtest on my SGS4G than on my vibrant
honeslty if i where you id get the G2x its got a few upsides over the nexus
and for battery i hear its good (1day) for being a monster (dualcore/4g)
this phone is faster than my laptop witch is sad
mines is on its way as you can tell from my sig
but before getting it... i recommend trying it out in the store first
it is kinda heavy feeling (good way) like the nexus s
but its all user preference dont buy it just because people on a forum say its good...
**G2x gets gingerbread mid summer*** (june)

Thanks man, I appreciate the quick response! You make some good points. I'll most likely be going to T-Mobile on Monday or Tuesday to try it out and compare to my Nexus S. It certainly looks like an awesome phone either way so I hope you enjoy yours! The dual core goodness and 4G will most likely be the top selling points if I do dive in.
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kflanegan said:
Thanks man, I appreciate the quick response! You make some good points. I'll most likely be going to T-Mobile on Monday or Tuesday to try it out and compare to my Nexus S. It certainly looks like an awesome phone either way so I hope you enjoy yours! The dual core goodness and 4G will most likely be the top selling points if I do dive in.
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no problem man!
if your still wanting to see what it can do just google "G2x reviews" they got some staggering stats/benchmarks already up plus you can see a little more of the functionality i didnt describe!

I have both, but my Nexus S is now for sale. The G2x blows it away in every area except black levels and form factor. I thought by looking at GPU benchmarks that it would only be marginally faster...I was wrong. It puts the Nexus S to shame. Apps load dramatically faster, web browsing is much faster and smoother, the whole user experience is just better. This phone far exceeds my expectations. I prefer the display to samoled and the battery life is up there with the Nexus S.
Even though I'm an update junkie (one of those guys obsessively hitting refresh on XDA when I catch wind of an OTA), I'm willing to give up 2.3.3 for the faster hardware. It just really is that much better.
If you would like me to perform any specific comparisons let me know.
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T-Mobile® is on it's way to AT&T®, so, do what you gotta do, but AT&T® will be baking all T-Mobile® users get new phones to support their network.
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but AT&T® will be baking all T-Mobile® users get new phones to support their network.
deedscreen said:
T-Mobile® is on it's way to AT&T®, so, do what you gotta do,
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so your the FCC now?
i RECOMMEND reading before posting **** like this... this is a opinion
and this phone is WORKING BOTH ON tmobiles AND at&t's network.....
i love people that hear something... and think its going down so there share bad intel... you sir are almost a month outdated with your information... let alone you obviously dont read phone specs before posting about it...
(maybe its just me and i am tires its 4am here, but the ignorance of some people make me wonder how this world is still spinning)

nate420 said:
i RECOMMEND reading before posting **** like this... this is a opinion
and this phone is WORKING BOTH ON tmobiles AND at&t's network.....
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Not just work - This has been the case for a long time. The phone will work on either carrier's 3G/4G networks, which is a first I believe.
Anyway, from what I've been reading, the G2x blows away even the original O2x - I saw a run of Quadrant where the planet and moon graphics test was pumping 100-120FPS!

G2X. Period. I sell high end mobile phones for a living and I've owned a Vibrant, a Nexus S now and soon to be G2X. I got to play with the G2X at work for about 5 hours and its an amazing device. Just like others said, the screen, 1080p, hdmi etc...My nexus will be promptly going on craigslist with 0 regrets.
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Bronk93 said:
G2X. Period. I sell high end mobile phones for a living and I've owned a Vibrant, a Nexus S now and soon to be G2X. I got to play with the G2X at work for about 5 hours and its an amazing device. Just like others said, the screen, 1080p, hdmi etc...My nexus will be promptly going on craigslist with 0 regrets.
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+100
Just sold my Nexus S as the dev section is DEAD! Getting a G2X sent over from the USA
JD

Wow thanks for all the informative posts! I hadn't expected such a quick and diverse response. I posted the same thread on the Nexus S forum with 0 responses. I was really leaning toward the G2x but now having fellow Nexus S owners say the same really helps to make the decision easier. I hope CM7 and others port over quickly so we can get root access and load up some new roms right off the bat!
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kflanegan said:
Wow thanks for all the informative posts! I hadn't expected such a quick and diverse response. I posted the same thread on the Nexus S forum with 0 responses. I was really leaning toward the G2x but now having fellow Nexus S owners say the same really helps to make the decision easier. I hope CM7 and others port over quickly so we can get root access and load up some new roms right off the bat!
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dont quote me but i believe the o2x Root program is working for the G2x: link -------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953182&page=19
as for roms give it a week and CM7 will be on it! (also an assumption but alot of developers are getting this phone!)

kflanegan said:
Wow thanks for all the informative posts! I hadn't expected such a quick and diverse response. I posted the same thread on the Nexus S forum with 0 responses. I was really leaning toward the G2x but now having fellow Nexus S owners say the same really helps to make the decision easier. I hope CM7 and others port over quickly so we can get root access and load up some new roms right off the bat!
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The nexus S forum is not a nice place to be, over zealous moderators and crazy noob users that argue over anything... And of course all of them are anti dev because they think they have the best OS ever...
Its a great OS but i do like to interchange between Sense and MIUI as well
JD

I will be getting G2x.
I also have NS, and the black level on NS is nowhere to match (unlimited contrast), but the black level on G2x is still pretty good and the viewing angle is good as MT4 (no defect unit) and GTab.
The only concern is the calling quality. LG phones are weak on this category if you ask me. Calling quality on NS is good (especially speakerphone). It's still a phone after all.

I've had my Nexus S for about 2 weeks and I've been trying to not want to get the G2X, but I'm slowly getting swayed. I paid cash for my phone from Best Buy, so I think they'd have to send me a check in the mail with my money. Until then, I'd have no phone. So, that's what will probably hold me back from getting one.
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The waiting is it worth, and it would be max. one week.. You won't regret it
G2x all the way

i too have a NS. Really considering moving to the G2X. The pros outweigh the cons tremendously in my opinion. Quick updates and black levels are the only things the NS has over the G2X. We just got 4G here in Nashville also so im chomping at the bit to get the speeds that i'm already paying for.
here are a few unboxings/reviews to keep you guys salivating
http://youtu.be/K8_Oc3RufZQ?hd=1
http://youtu.be/gYULrpSFu6g?hd=1
http://youtu.be/GdyIwoIn_gY?hd=1

Quick updates.... are the only things the NS has over the G2X.
false G2x will be up there with updates (google phone)

nate420 said:
Quick updates.... are the only things the NS has over the G2X.
false G2x will be up there with updates (google phone)
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You are correct in that it will be "up there" with updates...sooner than phones that need to have custom UIs modified by companies like HTC, Samsung, and *cringe* Motorola. However, there is an important distinction to be made...Nexus S updates come straight from Google, whereas G2x updates come from T-Mobile which causes a notable delay. Nexus S clearly wins in this department.

nate420 said:
Quick updates.... are the only things the NS has over the G2X.
false G2x will be up there with updates (google phone)
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No it wont. Vanilla doesn't = Google phone.

SGS4 or Nexus S

Im so confused on which one to get. I mean the SGS2 is a vibrant with 4g pretty much? And i dont know if the nexus s has 4g capability? I can get the sgs4 for 139. and the nexus s off best buy for 99. Really want to based this on development. So any info i would appericate it

nexus is best your choice .

Can you give me a more detailed answer as in why? I mean i like the sgs4 cause i always liked the vibrant. But the nexus s does have development. The only thing that scares me is the Internal 16gb which will lead into corrupting if a bad flash is done!

I recently had to make the same decision and had friends with both I borrowed for a week.
The nexus s is amazingly fast. It boots and shuts down in a fraction of the time. It has flash for the camera. It has gps that actually works right out of the box. It has a cooler design and a much more solid feel. It has the nfc that you will probably never use. It has premium support and google ota updates of the newest stuffs. The usb port also has a much nicer feel.
Video playback is poor compared to the vibrant.
It lacks support for most 3d games.
There is no sd card slot
No gorilla glass
I have owned several vibrants and everything that is true for them is true for the sgs4g. The screen is amazing and is protected by gorilla glass. Video playback is second to none. Games play like a dream.
Gps is essentially unusable on most handsets.
The case is cheap feeling and looking.
No flash for camera
I decided video playback and game support was more important than flash and gps but I am upset those are the best choices. You might be wise to just wait for the price to drop on the x2.
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Im coming from sprint. I had both evo and epic. The evo had great devs, while the epic has little to no support at all. CM7 and MIUI are still in alpha stages. I just dont want the sgs4 to be like the epic. I was looking at the lg gxs or whatever their having alot of issues on the first batch released(bleeding screen, phone wont connect to 3g) Mt4g(feels cheap though) sgs4 or nexus are the only ones i would consider getting.

If I could go back in time I would choose the mt4g rooted with cm7, sgs4g has its benefits like said earlier except I don't use it for movies or gaming I bounce between apps often and fast and the sgs4g would sometimes lag.
So I bought the g2x and while it is wicked fast and extremely strong with already great support for development, the phone has its issues and chooses when the issues will come up, I would just go scan the general thread for the g2x real quick
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It seems to me, the SGS4G is slow to get developer support for ROMS and such. That is the only reason I regret owning one. However, after rooting and applying the FOTA fix, it is a cool phone.
From my understanding, phones like the Nexus will have tons of ROMS and customization because they are not tainted by integrations such as Samsung's Touch Wiz and are easier to work with.
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Sgs4g I like the video playback but thats just my opinion. Gps is pretty good for me and it is true no dev support on the sgs4g I mean not as much as other phonea so of you are looking to play around with the phone like changing roms and kernels stuff like that I wouldnt recommend unless you dont mind waiting which is my case I dont mind waiting so I dont have any complaints. One last thing it does lag here and there but is not that bad. Really cant say much about nexus s I havent even play with it. G2x was mentioned it is a beast pgone but I went to the g2x forums and there were a los of complaints with the screen you ahould go check it out. Best thing to do is just go to the forums of each device and read about it, comments and complaints and it would help a lot.
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I think the sgs4g is the best device I've owned but thats after doing some system tweaks like getting root, freezing some apps, alter minfree to strict settings for better ram handling when swapping applications, changing the disk scheduler to deadline, doing the fota files fix and getting a class 6 micro sd card. After all that this phone has never lag or failed period. But out the box...is fast. Once u have used it for about a week or two thats when you could start seing lag by either apps you have downloaded and new services running in the background not counting the unnecesary ones that were already running when you first get it...gps works flawlesly and so does everything else, but thats after you hack the phone the way you want it...
Up to you though...
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The only reason the Nexus s is any faster is because it came stock with the ext4 file system. Our phones have the same file system as the Vibrant (rfs) It is not efficient, and that is where our lag is coming from.
We will start seeing some ROMS that will have ext4 built into them. When we do get this we will see quad scores around 1700-1800. To give you an idea our phones stock will score around 900. EXT4 ruffly doubles the speeds of the system. Now if you add ext4 with an overclocked kernel. The scores will be around if not higher than 2000.
This phone will be very fast and stable in not to long.

Thanks guys for the help. I went to go play with the following phones today:
g2x- Front looks really nice, and the display showed sharped for lcd. BUT my epic seems faster? and the back of the phone is FUGLY I mean the color, color........color lol! Reminds me of those cheap boost mobile off the wall colors. A case may solve that problem but i wouldnt pay 200 for it knowing how the back looked to me.
g2- Fast little thing, seen the potiental of it on xda, pretty much a better looking sprint htc evo shift 4G. BUT the demo hinge was BARELY on the phone. Soo going have to pass on that looks like a future problem.
mt4g- The best one of the group. Fast, comfortable in hand, light and Fast and xda support helps it there in my book. BUT its looks cheap. I mean how the color contrast clash on the phone. If i got one had to be either be the red one or white one.
sgs4- Some idiot STOLE THE DEMO! soooo i gotta go back tomorrow to look at it!!!
Nexus s- Actually locally a guy was selling one on CL. So i meet him to look at it. the screen is awesome of course cause of the superman screen lol! BUT the phone Looks cheaper than the mt4g!!!! I mean its all plastic and black gloss. Drop it and your gonna be hurting really bad. Also you have to deal with best buy and google since they sell it and tmobile just provides the service. I may sound anal but im a complex thinker and i always think ahead of myself.
Whole day of researching and im still confused and dont know which one to get lol!!!!

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Im coming from sprint. I had both evo and epic. The evo had great devs, while the epic has little to no support at all. CM7 and MIUI are still in alpha stages. I just dont want the sgs4 to be like the epic. I was looking at the lg gxs or whatever their having alot of issues on the first batch released(bleeding screen, phone wont connect to 3g) Mt4g(feels cheap though) sgs4 or nexus are the only ones i would consider getting.
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I'm a proud owner of a G2x... though some screens have bleeding issues.... mine doesn't... There are plenty of G2x's that are doing just fine, it's just easier to complain.... If you do have issues, you will have a 1 year warranty which means you will be able to switch it when new batches come out and by then issues should have been fixed... Whatever you do BUY THE PHONE IN STORE to test the device... Play with the settings and everything! If you are going to get a phone GET THE BEST there is to offer you and right now that would be the G2x...
SGS4G and Nexus S both have their flaws and are similar devices... The Nexus S isn't 4g capable (if that matters to you)... the SGS4G isn't anything to dazzle over and the Touch Wiz UI isn't my favorite... If you can wait a little longer it may be worth looking at the HTC Sensation...

No offense but i dont see why people rave so much about the sensation. Its a dual core evo 4g. Had two evo 4g when i was with sprint.......Nothing special. Sure it will probably have a bunch of dev support. But to me its not something wanting on for.
But after reading more reviews and seeing on the g2x side. Its not seeming so bad now. Also you have to consider that im coming to tmobile so late while the g2 mt4g and nexus s are kinda old i guess you can say. Even though the g2 and mt4g will get 2.3 but i think thats about it for them as OTA updates.

the Nexus S 4G...on TMO...would be......oh wait...why am I dreaming again

Get teh Samsung Galaxy S4G if you're planning to get a data plan and actually use it

SGS4
Very low internal space, 200MB as apposed to the Vibrants 16G. The phone benchmarks pretty low. But it does have the fastest antenna at 21mbs.
Nexus S
Wow it has a curved screen..... but no SD card support???? Why? Pretty cool but the download speeds will be lower because no 4g support.
If you're looking for the best I suggest the G2x or G2. I personaly use the G2 and it is amazing. But tmo just launched the G2x and it is to die for. Amazing 8MP camera, dual core processor, hdmi out for hdtv support. Get that if anything, the two phones you're deciding between have already been out dated by the G2x.
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Wait til the Sensation or even better the SGS 2....but wait something will come out better right after...mytouch 4g slide anyone...??

It sounds like the price is a concern of the op.... I say go for the nexus s... the network speed increase with the sgs4g is not enough to overcome the lack of developer support. And its cheaper. Then again... the g2x is your best choice ATM... if you have the $$$.
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I had the SGS4G and exchanged it for the G2x and I have no regrets. This phone is amazingly fast and responsive and dev support is already awesome. Within 2 or 3 days the phone had clockworkmod working through ROM manager.
Pretty amazing. Plus Cyanogen, Team Whiskey and others already got the phone and are working on the ROM.
If you still have a choice I say go with the G2x. Dual core is future proof. Just came out, so this phone will probably be good for the next 2 years.
Hope that helps with your decision
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Galaxy s 2
I'd wait for galaxy s 2! I think i will be the best phone for a while

Someone please talk me out of returning g2x and waiting for the galaxy s ii.

I like this phone, but people are saying the gs2 is the best phone they ever used. Ugh!
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jsauce75 said:
I like this phone, but people are saying the gs2 is the best phone they ever used. Ugh!
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Touchwiz. Lol
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jsauce75 said:
I like this phone, but people are saying the gs2 is the best phone they ever used. Ugh!
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Its Samsung... don't like so much.
Touch wiz
I believe no tetra games either.
Besides it being 1.2ghZ I don't see much difference... much rather keep the g2x. No one knows if cm7 would even be on it. Lol
Samoled looks artificially vibrant. It looks like neon colors just bursting on your eyes imo
The g2x also looks better I think...
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If you like this phone keep it. End of story.
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Leaving the over boosted size aside, IMO, the biggest issue of sgs2 is there is no guarantee that it will be on t-mobile. Plus you are very likely to be forced to wait 3-4 months to see in the US market...

They need to get gingerbread out fast so I can see if they fix any of the issues I have.
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Just buy whatever you like more? I'm for sure picking up a GS2 when they drop here, I couldn't care less the carrier etc. But then again I'll probably swoop a Sensation (Evo3d more likely...) too.
Ahhh...the joys of off contract purchasing.

I was in the same "dilema" because I wanted to wait for Samsung Galaxy S 2. Here was my final Pros for G2X and Cons for Samsung GS2 that lead me to go with G2X.
Pros for G2X:
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> Tegra Processor (means Tegra zone, means future potential for Playstation support)
> Stock Android (Means higher likelihood of updates, faster device, with no UI)
[I reasoned that 1.2GHz with more RAM but Touchwiz was probably equivalent to 1.0GHz with a little less RAM but stock android, not scientific at all btw, just conjecture and uninformed estimation]
> Easier to root/mod, in case I decided to fiddle around with it in the future
> Build quality is long lasting and much more professional/sleek/awesome
Cons for SGS2:
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> Samsung Updates are Non-Existent, GS1 just got Froyo about a few weeks ago, still no gingerbread
> New Touchwiz is nicer, but a nice piece of crap is still crap
> If I purchased I would immediately mod the phone to get stock/vanilla android (so in essence why go with it only to revert to stock)
> Build quality not as solid as G2X from what reviews say
> Final reason I decided to not wait... If history is any indication, T-mobile got the weakest iteration of the first Galaxy phone (no flash, missing features, etc)... I wouldn't be surprised if we get a T-mobile version that is missing some of the awesome features that we held out for.
The G2X is here now, is a great and fast phone and will be as powerful as the Galaxy S 2 out of the box, especially in everyday use. Aside from the defects that are being talked about, I think G2X is the better choice.

G2X
I would go with the G2x as well. Because it's stock android, t-mobile did a good job of staying out of the way here, plus touchwiz doesn't upgrade a user experience enough to be a game-changer. A lot of people believe it makes a phone worse. Beyond that, the G2x looks really nice, feels solid, and works really well, or at least should once the update comes. I say go with what you want, list your own pros and cons, watch some review videos, and make an informed decision based on your preferences, just like anyone else.

Yes, this is my first stock Android phone and I have to say I much prefer it. Although my only comparison is HTC Sense, which I didn't care for. I really liked what I saw of the GSII, but at some point you have to buy a phone instead of always waiting for the next big thing. Figured I'd buy the G2x now and I'm pretty okay with that.

because G2x is a google phone and will be updated a lot. samsung has a nice screen but that's about it. i've had 2 vibrants. nice but nothing compared to this phone. i wouldn't want to have to deal with samsungs bull**** again after it took them 8 months just to upgrade to froyo when froyo came out near the same time as the vibrant. plus you have to deal with people from india when you call support (like dell). nothing agains them but they ones across the ocean couldnt give 2 ****s about assisting us im my experience. kept getting the run around and reffered back to tmobile when tmobile is who said i needed to speak with them!

reasons? You really need reasons to not buy that hunk of plastic?
-Samsung
-Touchwiz
-No updates... EVER...
-horrible dev support
-did i mention Samsung?

Galaxy S 2 is a 4.3" phone. After your initial excitement, you'll need a phone that's practical for you.
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Im returning my g2x tomorrow and waiting for the galaxy s 2

umm, SGS II is like months... MONTHS away from a US release. Why return this phone now and wait 6 months for the SGSII when you can buy this one now, and sell it down the line when the SGSII comes out, by then the demand will be just a great with all the support that this phone will have recieved

The SGS2 looks like a really awesome phone and I may upgrade to that if it ever comes to T-Mobile. Having said that, I am happy with this phone. It does more than I need it to and already has great developer support. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say the SGS2 will be out late summer to early winter if you can wait that long. I would keep the G2X and wait to see if the SGS2 is worth upgrading to. Also, by the time the SGS2 comes out, something better might be unvieled.
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The SGS II see nice, but the G2x is a fine phone. I brought my last saturday and until today I don't have any issues with it. This phone is solid, have the right size, it's stock android and dual core. What more we can hope for this phone for me it's great. I read that few people have issues with the G2x that's ok can happen, but we can prejudiced the phone just for that. Just my 2 cents.

i got g2x but return it after 10 days of use, 1st unit suffered from rebooting problems and same for backlight bleeding. 2nd unit was a bit better but the backlight bleeding was still there and the terrible battery life was unacceptable.
i'm a big fan of stock android and owned htc g1, nexus one and htc g2 and loved them all and despised my brother's samsung galaxy s but after checking out the reviews and videos of sgs2 i got to admit its a better phone in terms of battery life and screen, the only downside is the touchwiz, hopefully we'll get cyanogenmod support but i strongly doubt it, anyway i can install LauncherPro and half of the problem is solved.

If not for anything else, I wouldn't return and wait because you have no idea when the SGS II is coming out on T-Mobile. Personally, I'm a big Samsung fan. When I had AT&T I had both Blackjacks, and the Captivate, so most likely I'll pick up the SGS II when it finally comes out for us, but it's silly to just return your G2x wait it out that long. While I'm not a huge fan of stock Android compared to TouchWiz, it does hold true that this phone (G2x) will most likely get the best support of the two for upgrades and what not. It really pissed me off that soon after I left AT&T, they finally released the Froyo upgrade...Samsung is terrible about making statements then going back on them. They said Froyo would come out in October, then December, then it finally came out like what a month or so ago? I don't know LG's history for updates or how quick T-Mobile gets stuff out as I just got on board with them a week ago, but based on what I've heard, you're far better off update and support wise with the G2x than the SGS II. Plus the G2x has the Tegra processor, which is just friggin' sweet! SGS II has Samsung's processor configuration, no Tegra to be found. GSMarena did a comparison of the 2 phones, and they both stood up to each other well, especially on the benchmarks. The only real advantage the SGS II had from what I read is the screen offers more vivid colors, but it's still the exact same resolution (800x480).

Is this a Good Phone

Im looking into buying a nexus s and just wanna see what ppl on these forums have to say about it. Overall is it a good phone? how's the rooting process hard? Does rooting vastly improve it like it did my hero? General opinions on the phone?
Thanks for any input

Like you, I came from a HTC Hero. Rooting isn't necessary to squeeze more performance from the nexus s compared to the hero. Having said that, it is strongly recommended to root it because it allows you to do so much more on the nexus s. In terms of performance wise, rooting does not "vastly" improve the performance.
General opinions of the phone are its great! Go get it.
The rooting process is extremely simple. Go do a quick search on the forums.

Great phone. Fairly easy to root. The guides available are great as long as you follow it verbatim. The phone itself is fast as is and has large internal memory for apps. Rooting is worth it IMO. The extra overclock and undervolt keeps the phone always running fluid and increases battery life significantly.
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Thanks for the input guys...REALLY looking forward to gettin this

Im getting another one this will be my 3rd. Its def a keeper. Vanilla and constant updates 1st
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Yeah hero is probably the worst effin phone ever made in the history of all phones so any upgrade is a blessing.
And yes, the hero sucked so many balls. The slowest laggiest POS ever.
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fraspas said:
Yeah hero is probably the worst effin phone ever made in the history of all phones so any upgrade is a blessing.
And yes, the hero sucked so many balls. The slowest laggiest POS ever.
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I actually thought Hero sent the trend on how Android devices should look and function.
Anyway, imo, nexus s is the best android phone, I just got one yesterday, samoled version (dislike slcd), I love everything about the phone. It even performs better than my brother's HTC Sensation even with its dual core.
my next phone will either be the next nexus or galaxy s3.

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I have the galaxy s vibrant. Would you guys still recomend me to get the nexus s? I can get one at a very good price.. But im wondering if its worth the change. Any input is welcome
Edit: sorry for the thread highjack, thought of posting here rather than creating a new thread.
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bimmerboii said:
I have the galaxy s vibrant. Would you guys still recomend me to get the nexus s? I can get one at a very good price.. But im wondering if its worth the change. Any input is welcome
Edit: sorry for the thread highjack, thought of posting here rather than creating a new thread.
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I love my Nexus S (coming from an HTC Magic), but if you already have a Galaxy S, I don't think it's worth the trouble: they have pretty much the same hardware inside. In addition, IIRC, Galaxy S has Gorilla glass, a SD card slot, FM radio and 720p recording.
The best thing about the Nexus S is that it's vanilla Android, constantly updated and officially supported by Google. It has NFC, which the Galaxy S doesn't have, and gets better support from app developers as well. I didn't need all those hardware features the Galaxy S had: I just wanted *the* Google phone :-D.
Basically, the Nexus line is much better supported than the Galaxy S line, but if you're in XDA, I guess you won't mind flashing a vanilla ROM to your Galaxy S.

Thanks for your reply. You made good points on my deciding factor. But even if im on xda, i hate having to flash my phone all the time (my sgs is stock). I just want the latest version of android.
Here's the thing.. Someone wants to buy my sgs for $300. I have credits on my account and could get the nexus s for $308 all in. Or i can just save my credits and let it accumulate over the next few months to buy a better phone. But im really itching for a stock vanilla android phone. Decisions decisions...
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Stay with Galaxy S. As soon as you go to Nexus S, you will miss your Galaxy S. IMHO, Nexus S is a downgrade from Galaxy S. I did this mistake but within 2 weeks gladly came back to Galaxy S. But if you are too itchy, buy Nexus S and compare both head on head. Know the difference yourself and get rid of the one you find inferior compared to the other.
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rdbhalla said:
Stay with Galaxy S. As soon as you go to Nexus S, you will miss your Galaxy S. IMHO, Nexus S is a downgrade from Galaxy S. I did this mistake but within 2 weeks gladly came back to Galaxy S. But if you are too itchy, buy Nexus S and compare both head on head. Know the difference yourself and get rid of the one you find inferior compared to the other.
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I dont think it is a downgrade, i think the point in android world is " you cant have everything"... sure, sgs has a lot of features that we dont have in nxs, but nxs also has some things over sgs... and you need to decide what you are looking for, what comes first for you...
I came from a desire hd, that in specs is worse of nxs, and i am pretty much satisfeid with it. I guess the point is: it's good to look specs, but it is only half part, the other half is about daily usage.
Back to the question, if i were you i would wait a little bit more, swap for a nealy phone, more than 6 months old... maybe you can get a sgs II or wait for the new nexus prime, i just dont know if it a good idea.. =o)
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thiagodark said:
I dont think it is a downgrade, i think the point in android world is " you cant have everything"... sure, sgs has a lot of features that we dont have in nxs, but nxs also has some things over sgs... and you need to decide what you are looking for, what comes first for you...
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I think the only additional thing Nexus S has is flash. I have my own reservations about the quality of HTC phones after using HTC Desire for few weeks. But if the choice is between SGS and NS, SGS clearly has an edge. But again, its individual's choice. Whatever works the best for you.
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Absolutely disagree. I've had the vibrant for the last 9 months and thought it was awesome but then the lag gets unbearable because of the file system. I went in with my brother and dad and got a family plan and we got the nexus s since I thought that would be the best (hulu, Netflix, etc all came out first for it) and you get software updates first too from Google. And the phone is wicked fast. I thought I would miss touchwiz and all the quirks but you know what I did for like 3 days. And the battery life on this sucker is amazing. I think its a great buy especially for me. But each his own. People have different wants and needs and everybody needs to do their research before buying and investing in something so expensive.
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Stay with Galaxy S. As soon as you go to Nexus S, you will miss your Galaxy S. IMHO, Nexus S is a downgrade from Galaxy S. I did this mistake but within 2 weeks gladly came back to Galaxy S. But if you are too itchy, buy Nexus S and compare both head on head. Know the difference yourself and get rid of the one you find inferior compared to the other.
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Well I do not disagree. Galaxy S does need a little bit of tweaking to get the full performance out of it. All I did with my SGS was to install JVO 2.3.4, root it and this changed it to a totally different phone. Yes, I use stock gingerbread launcher and keyboard instead of touchwiz or Samsung keyboard. All of this takes hardly 30 minutes.
Nexus S is definitely fast out of the box. But gorilla glass, FM radio, expandable memory slot, better video recording give SGS an edge over NS. SGS just needs half an hour more to reveal its potential.
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I wrote a review to answer this first post.
Here is a review I put together as I had same initial questions. Hope it helps.
My first experience with android was rooting a Hero, since then I enjoyed a year with a rooted EVO, but after several boot-looping experiences which I was unable to correct, the phone had become unusable, and I was forced to choose a new phone a little more premature than I would have liked. I had my heart set on the specs of the Galaxy S II but after enjoying two HTC phones and how easily they were rooted I also leaned toward the EVO 3D. I will admit here, that I was a “flash-aholic” when it came to trying out new ROMs and kernels, and would probably continue to have been so if it weren’t for the boot-loop and force closing problem I was having.
I decided to go ahead and get a Sprint Nexus S 4G instead of waiting another ten days for the EVO 3D, knowing that if I didn’t have a good experience with the Nexus, I could return it within the 30 day trial period. The Sprint rep. was very helpful and honest with his assistance, he showed me that the Nexus even in the store was not picking up as good a signal as the EVO 4G, and I expressed concern about receiving signal at my residence, as frequently I had to step outside in the back yard to have a phone conversation using the EVO.
Initial setup of the Nexus was surprisingly easy, but just as suspected the signal at home was weak, though not any worse than the EVO. A call to Sprint tech support the next day helped when they offered to send me an Airave unit, which I received in only one week and found a dramatic improvement for not only my phone but my wife’s EVO as well. Thank you Sprint!
My next adventure was whether or not to root this phone, as I held off until I decided I was going to keep it. It was a little bit of a challenge for me to set up adb capabilities on my computer but worth the research. So I was now set up to make the root possible, however, reading up on the Nexus didn’t convince me that rooting was to my best advantage at this time, so I have held off. The signal problem had been resolved, my battery life has been great, my phone is extremely fast, and tethering works right out of the box, most importantly is everything works well without bugs or any other problems. This doesn’t mean I won’t root when I see a clear advantage in the future, and fortunately rooting the Nexus is as easy as it can get.
Instead I have used ADW EX customizations to optimize this phone for my best android experience, and it is this point convincing me to keep it. The Nexus S has none of the Sprint bloat-ware profligation, and none of the manufacturer skin-ware. Using ADW EX and android widgets, I was able to customize my Nexus to suit my needs perfectly. The best part of the experience is that I got to choose how my phone worked, and my phone now operates exactly how I want it to, I might also mention that Launcher Pro would work very well also. Ah, the beauty of android.
Later the next week I went into a local RadioShack to have hands-on time with the EVO 3D to make certain I had made the best choice. I did that Sense 3 twirl thing and the rep mentioned the limitations of Nexus screen scrolling, I showed him that my phone also had infinity scrolling. He was surprised and didn’t go any further.
Sure the latest summer phones have better specs, more powerful hardware, and unique features (3D), but for me at least, they don’t really make for a better android experience than a Nexus. Here is a list of widgets I have included on my screens.
Agenda widget keeps an excellent display of my appointments.
Springpad for notes and general organization uses.
Google+ widget, as well as android system widget for general phone info.
I use Jorte calendar to fill up one entire screen.
The control widget for quick access to phone controls.
The Starbuck coffee widget cause I gotta admit, I like my coffee.
Skype video calls work excellently and I use it frequently since most phone users still don’t have Google Talk video. I have combined Facebook with Twitter using Tweetdeck, and this app I keep in an easily accessible hidden dock which contains many of my frequently used apps, one of the best features of ADW EX and used by many ROMs such as Cyanogen.
The overall flow and performance of the phone is flawless, handling multi-functioning easily, Bluetooth works very well, wi-fi at home and at my local Starbucks is good, pictures are adequate and the general feel of the phone is sleek without giving up that much on size coming from an EVO slab phone user. The idea that updates get pushed out to Nexus phones before anyone else will keep me a happy user for some time to come as the Nexus is a developer’s phone hence new applications often come to this phone first, the recent case of Skype video calling is a great example.
What do I miss most, or wished improved? I must admit I do miss that EVO kickstand, which was a nice feature though I can’t help but think it would mess with the sleekness of the Nexus. The missing sd card hasn’t been an issue for me, but I suppose it could be for others. There are times I still miss the LED notification light, though that is minor thing. I have read others complain of the back being slick and a fingerprint magnet, but I stuck an Egrip strip with a cool image to help in handling the phone better and reduce the space for smudges.
Are there better phones out there this summer? Sure, if you go by hardware specs, so if photo quality is important to you with a better camera and more features such as 3D, or if you just can’t live without that LED notification light, the Nexus may not be for you. A dual core phone is slightly faster, but hardly noticeable and does 1 second or less really make that much difference? Do they make better use of the android system though? In my opinion this is where the Nexus excels and for me that is the true strength of this phone and why I suggest giving it a serious consideration.

I would probably keep the galaxy s in favor of the nexus s, mainly because of the browser-lag issue in the nexus. It is a great phone, but I don't think vanilla android brings to the table that much you should sell your galaxy. Hardware wise you would be gaining nothing.
You almost might as well wait for the next nexus that probably will come at the same time as ice-cream sandwich (Q4). Nexus is nice because you get the updates almost immediately, but Google has indicated that there will be no major updates before the launch of ICS. So why not wait for the phone that launches with ICS?

i just LOVE nexus s... Fast smooth amazing battery life, bought it two days ago and i completely fell in love with it. Coming from htc sense i thought vanilla would feel a little "vanilla" but no sir, the speed and the battery pays off sure if ur a guy who likes to use camera a lot then sgs might be a better option, but for all other things i believe sns is better. plus the curved screen is sexy

of course, most people here recognize this phone as good one. you know this phone even been to Space. how great.. haha