Mt4g vs Nexus s.. - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Should I get a Nexus s??
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search the forum, there are so many other threads about this.
you're on the Nexus S forum, so the biased majority is going to say "yes" and the trolls who come to the NS forums to flame are going to attempt to bash it.
In the end, it's really your decision.

nexus s is a nice device. i personally do not like samsung phones and prefer htc but the nexus s is a nice device with many features. id like to try it for a month to see how that curved glass is.
many variables to weigh, cost, carrier, plans, etc. the nexus s will put you with at&t or t-mo. have you considered the samsung galaxy s 4G with t-mo?
good luck!

tailsthecat3 said:
nexus s is a nice device. i personally do not like samsung phones and prefer htc but the nexus s is a nice device with many features. id like to try it for a month to see how that curved glass is.
many variables to weigh, cost, carrier, plans, etc. the nexus s will put you with at&t or t-mo. have you considered the samsung galaxy s 4G with t-mo?
good luck!
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Galaxy S 4G is a nono. It's pretty much a Vibrant + FFC (Mod can apply FFC to Vibrant) + 4G
Like I've said in all the other "Nexus S vs <X>" threads. If having the latest versions of Android is something you want, a Nexus device will fit you perfectly. Kernels etc will be open sourced asap.

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Galaxy S 4G is a nono. It's pretty much a Vibrant + FFC (Mod can apply FFC to Vibrant) + 4G
Like I've said in all the other "Nexus S vs <X>" threads. If having the latest versions of Android is something you want, a Nexus device will fit you perfectly. Kernels etc will be open sourced asap.
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i dont think that necessarily means that the galaxy s 4g is a no-no. i wouldnt buy it because i havent liked a sammy mobile device since my sch-a530 but dude is right though, if you want the latest android version before anyone else...get the nexus.

tailsthecat3 said:
i dont think that necessarily means that the galaxy s 4g is a no-no. i wouldnt buy it because i havent liked a sammy mobile device since my sch-a530 but dude is right though, if you want the latest android version before anyone else...get the nexus.
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I think it does, it's just revamped and I honestly don't think it's worth $199.99 because of the phones that are going to be coming out this year.
I personally just wouldn't get it because its a 2.0 of a same phone with added some basic features.
4G? Naaw.. I'm not downloading from my phone so I can care less about these speeds. And they're all theoretical.
FFC? Honestly.. I don't ever even use FFC. I have my NS and haven't used it once except day one when i was checking it out within Camera.
Also it is a punch in the face to owners of a Vibrant. Just imagine a week from now Google released 'Nexus S2'.. same phone but added 720p camera and a SD card slot with 4G.
TBH.. The only reason why I prefer Nexus S is because its maintained by Google without relying on manufacturers and carriers adding bloatware onto the phone. It allows the best possible Android experience.
Other phone in mind? T-Mobile G2X (Optimus 2X) -- but its not Stock Experience.

I prefer nexus s coming from a g2 iPhone 4 and "vibrant 4g" I love the way the sns looks its to sexy just my opinion
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Well I got a Nexus S and my wife has a myTouch 4G so I can give you an honest answer here.
My wife is using the base stock SENSE rom and she is constantly restarting her phone after heavy usage. (if you flash to like CM7 or one of the mt4g ROMs this probably won't be an issue) We web browser is so much nicer on her's because of the hardware acceleration with flash, I just put flash to load on demand on my web browser and everything is quick. As far as the processor they are pretty much a match yet I have overclocked my Nexus S and it makes her mt4G look slow.
As far as weight the Nexus S is noticeably lighter. The battery life is about the same to be honest, they both have similar battery ratings and I am getting more now since SetCPU tweaks and downclocking profiles when not in use.
Now here in Atlanta, or the area that I live just south of Atlanta, my 3G service keeps up with her in all the 4G areas, are speed tests are about equal. T-Mo just hasn't really got the speeds up down here, but to be honest 4G is really not going to make a huge difference on your phone, maybe if your going to tether in areas with proper HSDA+.
I bought my phone because I wanted to pure android and quicker updates and a device that is more exclusive in my area (my best buy told me that they only sold 15 since they came out). But again if you are going to root and do custom ROMs then you won't have to worry about waiting for updates and such.
They are both great phones, and the Nexus S is going to have its bugs since you get to test the newest releases of android before it really gets mainstream use on other devices.

I had the MT4G for a couple weeks before the Nexus S was released. I have a rooted, overclocked, Nexus S; my wife has a completely stock Nexus S; and my daughter has a MT4G. Both of them count on me to pretty much do all updates, install apps, etc on their phones so I use all 3 a lot.
My phone is the best of all 3. My wife's is the next best. The MT4G has much more lag than the Nexus S due to Sense even though it has more RAM it still isn't enough. The only advantage the MT4G has is during tethering the 4G data speeds are nice, but I rarely tether so it doesn't make that much of a difference.
Here are my opinions on which phone is better in different areas:
1. Hardware quality: Nexus S
2. Speed/lag: Nexus S
3. Data speed: MT4G, but only cell data and not by much
4. Call quality: equal
5. Battery: equal
6. Look and feel of OS: Nexus S
7. WiFi calling: right now only on MT4G
8. Camera: equal
Other features a plus for Nexus: Google updates, no HTC screwing things up. No Sense slowing the phone down. Better screen.
MT4G advantages: Hard buttons vs capacitive (personal preference). LED notification light. 4G.

I am in a similar situation as well, GF has the mytouch4g and I have the SNS. Like brokenwall said, the MT4G gets real slow under heavy use. Battery for me is significantly longer although i dont have setcpu installed, the phone itself has nice power management. Weight of phone is really a personal decison, coming from a HD2, I prefer metal battery covers and the slightly heavier weight of the MT4G but thats just me. One of the big ups about the nexus is it coming already unlocked, of course you can always unlock the MT4G but the SNS has a higher resell value if you ever change your mind
Overall i would recommend the SNS but both phone are nice.

can you guys stop calling the Nexus S a SNS.. it is NS
Nexus One wasnt called GN1/GNO or HN1/HNO.. it was called N1

Nexus s great phone.
Mt4g if you root. And put cm7 or iced glaciar its insane.
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Mytouch 4g or nexus s

Hi, I currently have a rooted mytouch 4g running android 2.3 that I bought used off of craigslist. I got an offer to trade my mytouch 4g plus cash for a nexus s brand new. Now I don't necessarily love Samsung but the deal seems like it could be beneficial to me. Some background:
I have a mytouch with a 'bad screen'
I have absolutely none of the original packaging or accessories.
The phone is a bit scuffed up and it is purple.
Now I was hoping you guys could give me your opinion, if you were in my shoes, would you trade or keep the phone?
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I wouldn't....
too many bad things about the nexus s, and far too many fones that will be released in the next few months that will outdate "kill" the nexus S while the mt4g even with a bad screen STANDS STRONG, i also have a bad screen and this is far better processor, plus you can contact htc through tmoble to possibly exchange now for the scuffs u can spend 11bucks at ur local mall and get watever color gel case u want and.u now have ur fave color mt4g in ur hands
just my opinion do sum reading thru here there are lots of negatives to the nexus s, our (mt4g) gingerbread runs wayyy better
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I honestly do not see why not... If I was in your shoes I would do it, if you don't you will probably be asking yourself what if? Plus you should factor in the following which is are you able to fully utilize hspa+ where you are.... Ultimately it also comes down to whether you have patience for Nexus S development to pick up and moreover if the mytouch better suits what you need... The Nexus S in my honest opinion is currently a better offering hardware wise and potentially (support google/dev scene) software wise with the largest omission being hspa+...
Apparently very debatable
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Hi, I currently have a rooted mytouch 4g running android 2.3 that I bought used off of craigslist. I got an offer to trade my mytouch 4g plus cash for a nexus s brand new. Now I don't necessarily love Samsung but the deal seems like it could be beneficial to me. Some background:
I have a mytouch with a 'bad screen'
I have absolutely none of the original packaging or accessories.
The phone is a bit scuffed up and it is purple.
Now I was hoping you guys could give me your opinion, if you were in my shoes, would you trade or keep the phone?
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I got the NS for 1 week and I went back to the MT4G. Maybe you like the NS, so try it and if not you can trade it again. I had a thread about my experience with the NS and compared it a bit to the MT4G.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913896
I'm returning my Nexus S tomorrow. Picked up the my touch yesterday. So far I think this version of Sense is terrible. That, however can be fixed. Really there are a number off things I don't like about the my touch yet I will still return the Nexus. GPS, accelerometer, and compass all function much better on the my touch. Huge difference. If I'm going to spend 500 bucks on a phone I expect the features that make it more than just a phone to work well. Updates from Google are important but I would rather have well functioning hardware. If the my touch never receives another ota it's still a pretty good phone. The Nexus will probably never have a stable compass or gps. That's my take at least. There were some other hardware issues such as phantom button presses that put me over the edge with the Nexus, but that may have been cured with an exchange.
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I went from the G1, which I loved, to the Vibrant, which I loved to hate. The developers did the best they could but the phone was still sitting with no official froyo six months after release, so I got fed up and sold it.
I got a Nexus S after the hype, went through two replacements before I got one that functioned properly. In the end, I still couldn't come to terms with the fact I was essentially buying another Samsung phone. I did some comparison shopping. Turned my S back for a refund and got a MT4G.
I did have to exchange the MT4G one time to get one with a good display, so I wasn't too happy at first, but now I'm much happier than I was with the Nexus S. It's got a more solid build, the camera is better, the buttons are responsive (big problem with the Nexus), the GPS locks quickly, I trust an HTC device 100x more than a Samsung device, and considering that we are getting Cyan 7 nightlies that are already fairly stable, I know I've made the right choice.
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gabrialxue said:
Hi, I currently have a rooted mytouch 4g running android 2.3 that I bought used off of craigslist. I got an offer to trade my mytouch 4g plus cash for a nexus s brand new. Now I don't necessarily love Samsung but the deal seems like it could be beneficial to me. Some background:
I have a mytouch with a 'bad screen'
I have absolutely none of the original packaging or accessories.
The phone is a bit scuffed up and it is purple.
Now I was hoping you guys could give me your opinion, if you were in my shoes, would you trade or keep the phone?
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I would do it, and then turn around and sell it, and get myself another myTouch 4g with a good screen brand new. nexus s is selling for wayyyy tooo much imho...
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I would do it, and then turn around and sell it, and get myself another myTouch 4g with a good screen brand new. nexus s is selling for wayyyy tooo much imho...
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Thats what I would do... Make a post, selling a Nexus S you haven't traded for yet, and see how many hits you get... if you get some legit hits.. I would trade the MT4G for the NS and sell the NS, then buy a MT4G or wait for some of these next-gen phones to come out. I LOVE the MT4G....it is amazing...think the NS fails in comparision...and anyone that would pick a NS over the MT4G is prolly just doing so because they are google fanboys, or they don't want to admit to themselves they paid 500 dollars for a phone that is basically the iphone with bugs....I honestly don't think anyone looking at the matchup objectively would pick the NS over the MT4G. Good Luck with your decision making, hope it works out.
You really want to get some unbiased answers post this same question in the Nexus S forms... Btw, I agree with the poster above if your heart is set on a mytouch 4g turn around and sell the Nexus S you acquire and obtain a mytouch 4g with the better built screen and possibly a better exterior color, like black
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Jaskwith said:
and anyone that would pick a NS over the MT4G is prolly just doing so because they are google fanboys, or they don't want to admit to themselves they paid 500 dollars for a phone that is basically the iphone with bugs....
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LOL now now lets not be that harsh, NS can still beat down the iPanzy 4 with its eye closed. But NS does not compare against MT4G as we know TMo Project: Emerald was successful IMO they created a monster muahaha and even its brother DHD can't beat MT4G in speed yet they share similar spec. NS could have been good but its crippled by Samsung due to their inferior management and other marketing factors.
If I am not mistaken doesn't the hummingbird processor take advantage of gingerbread in ways any generation of the snapdragon processor cannot? Or was this a myth?
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Originally I wanted the nexus s but my parents got me the mytouch.
To me 2.3 was a huge bonus for the nexus s but now the mytouch has 2.3 so its all good. The next advantage was the better screen for the nexus but now that super amoled two displays are coming out the nexus screen will be obsolete soon enough.although if I was you I would just wait for the phones announced at ces to come out.
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Yeah, you're pretty much going to get biased opinons, but I think the myTouch has a better chance of anything at this point. We got the CM7 nightys coming along nicely, and we even have a cleaned up version of the stock rom which runs like fire (Iced Glacier) and overall it supports TMobile's 4G network.
MyTouch all the way. You really don't need the NFC for another couple of years cause they're just starting to put some use to it.
MyTouch all the way, and plus read some of the stuff about the Nexus, it's having lagging issues, random reboots and such. And plus it's a Samsung device, that doesn't mean it won't get the next version of Android quick, but the fact that it's just a samsung device and that it feels like ****. The Mytouch (at least mine) feels solid.
ATM its just a myth as Hummingbird S5PC110 does not stand a chance with Snapdragon MSM8255 was only factor with 1st gen Snapdragon. But however at the same time credit must be given to SGX 540 as its slightly better than Adreno 205. Then again this is where Samsung can only excel huh in graphic and SAMOLED display. Also don't let the whole NS using ext4 BS get to you as we are still not in dualcore world fully but ext4 does have its benefits. Overall MT4G beats NS with its face down in the gutter where Samsung belongs. This device is not any type of flagship but it does have potentials as lineup device, only thing I see holding it back is Samsung lol and then again they tend to do that.
I've had both but ultimately chose the MyTouch because having 4g speeds made a huge difference in the entire experience. On the NS I was always having to run wifi. Also the NS just never felt complete. Running CM7 makes the MT4g a complete phone.
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Dont, Nexus S isnt really a that good of phone plus u have gingerbread etc and Nexus S is samsung made. Cheap quality. MT4g kicks its ass in CPU and Some GPU stuff ( shader performance and more) so i say keep it
If you have 2.3 on your mt4g there is no point. That's the only thing the nexus s has over mt4g out of the box. Plus the mt4g has 4g and HTC is better than Samsung by a long shot...
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Thanks for the replies guys, I'm currently talking with a Guy about trading mytouches, hopefully he has a good screen
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check it out when you buy it, install the terminal emulator and run the dmesg or something like that

Nexus S or LG G2x?

Hey Everybody,
*Posted this up in the LG forum for the Optimus 2x. Wondering what thoughts you all may have as well.Thanks!
Well I've had my Nexus S since March 23 and I've really enjoyed trying out various roms and tinkering around with the Android OS. (I came from an iPhone 4 on at&t.) Now I feel like I'm at a crossroad trying to decide what phone to stick with for the next year or so. I have till the 23 to return the nexus to best buy. I bought unlocked and if I do decide to switch I'll do the same with the G2x. How many of you are coming from the nexus s on this forum and what made you want to switch the most? I'm primarily concerned with the battery life on the G2x and updates either from LG or modders. The things I don't like about the nexus s are 3G data speeds (2.5-3 down and 1-1.5 up in my area, Birmingham, AL) and 1 day to day in a half battery life. What would you guys or girls do in a similar situation? Can anyone comment on the "4G" data speeds in this area of the country or in general on T-Mobile? I've read various reports of speeds from 5-9 Mbps down and your average up. I also hope the 4G won't kill battery and we'll have a killswitch when not in use. I'm sure most have seen the mobileburn video, she seemed to put down the nexus s screen in favor of the G2x. I find that hard to believe seeing how awesome the samoled screen looks and how black the blacks are. Anyone who's seen the G2x in store that can confirm the findings she had? Thanks for any help anyone can offer up!
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Lg, you won't have to beta test android, and you will get more features out of the box most likely.
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the nexus s will always get first hand on new version of the update, i chose the nexus s because it contains no junk.
I think you can make an argument for both phones either way. The differences I really see in the phones is that the LG has 4g, a dual core processor, hdmi out, and records 1080p...whereas the nexus S has NFC, gingerbread, sip calling (feature of gingerbread).
I don't see the G2X having 4g that big of a deal to me considering that I regularly get 3-6 megs download speed on my Nexus S. I compared it with a friends Galaxy S on 4g and we pretty much always got around the same speeds ( so I don't really see the 4g speed being a big difference maker...it just sounds good).
The G2X has a dual core processor...well I don't have any speed problems with the Nexus S at all. The phone runs perfectly fine and doesn't slow down, so yeah dual core sounds good but at the present time I don't think it is really going to be truly taken advantage of and is thus overkill.
For me, I had hdmi out on my evo and never once used it, so that is a moot point for me.
1080p recording in my opinion is another one of those things that just sounds good to have. In reality it really isn't any more useful than standard def recording. On my EVO and my Nexus one I could record in 720p and all that really resulted in was much larger video files. I'm not sure I even saw a noticeable difference in video clarity than in standard def.
Eventually the G2X will get gingerbread I'm sure, but in the meantime I would miss having SIP calling as I do use it. As for the Nexus S having NFC, that's another one of those things that sounds good, but until it is actually put to use in the real world it isn't very useful.
All in all I don't see enough difference in the G2X to warrant me taking back my Nexus S (I'm still in my return policy) and paying more for the G2X. I just don't see what I'd be paying more for.
I don't get caught up in the speed war. 3g or 4g, for 99% of what I do, I don't think I would see a difference, both are fast. Tethering might be impacted, but it's something I rarely do.
Hardware wise, both phones are blazing fast. So in the end, it comes down to software, pure google or lg's framework and update schedule
I other the google experience, unpolluted by anyone.
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I'm still on the fence. No 4G in my area. My Nexus is plenty fast. I'll have to play with one.
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For me the g2x would be less then the nexus s. 529 vs 499. I figure if im paying roughly the same price why not get something more technologically advanced right?
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Cheeze[iT] said:
For me the g2x would be less then the nexus s. 529 vs 499. I figure if im paying roughly the same price why not get something more technologically advanced right?
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in terms of hardware.. yes, in terms of software... no
and hardware isn't that far off, you're losing Super AMOLED
You could always return the Nexus S. Get the G2X. Then decide. If you liked the NS better, you can return the G2X and go buy the NS again or keep the G2X. Whatever you decided to go with.
I looked into the Nexus One forum once and they were calling the G2X the TRUE NEXUS 2 PHONE. Yeah, I was like ? They really need to get their minds out of the gutter. I saw an unboxing video and the G2X still had some T-Mobile apps in there like the App Pack, Telenav, and some other ones. So it's not even a "true Google experience phone" per say.
You could also wait for the HTC Sensation. Now, that is the phone that I would be willing to give up the NS for, but I wouldn't since I like the NS and will be keeping it until another Nexus phone comes out.
I suggest trying both since you have that option and decide for yourself. You're money, you make the call.
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You could always return the Nexus S. Get the G2X. Then decide. If you liked the NS better, you can return the G2X and go buy the NS again or keep the G2X. Whatever you decided to go with.
I looked into the Nexus One forum once and they were calling the G2X the TRUE NEXUS 2 PHONE. Yeah, I was like ? They really need to get their minds out of the gutter. I saw an unboxing video and the G2X still had some T-Mobile apps in there like the App Pack, Telenav, and some other ones. So it's not even a "true Google experience phone" per say.
You could also wait for the HTC Sensation. Now, that is the phone that I would be willing to give up the NS for, but I wouldn't since I like the NS and will be keeping it until another Nexus phone comes out.
I suggest trying both since you have that option and decide for yourself. You're money, you make the call.
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Agreed its preloaded with N.O.V.A. too. But I give props for making "stocklike" ROMs as their stock.
And it won't necessarily mean it'll have top of the line updates either.
Look at the G2, WOOOOOH its stock! where's gingerbread? Yeah. thats right. (Not counting CM7)
IMO: Galaxy S II > HTC Sensation > LG G2x
I personally dont like G2x's bottom. It has WAY too much room.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/15/htc-sensation-versus-the-rest-of-the-dual-core-world-smartphone/
Let me start by saying that I really love my nexus s, it's fast, and with cyanogenmod the battery life is awesome. The screen is great, but coming from an AMOLED phone before this, I don't get the hype.
That said, if I were to make a decision about a phone now, I'd go for the LG. With the tegra 2 chip, the phone is plenty future proof. Nvidia seems pretty serious about taking the phone market with apps specifically for the tegra 2 chip. I know there's no point in playing the ghz game, it's endless, but if you can do it for free (nearly) then I don't see why you shouldn't go through with the swap.
Part of the reason I bought my nexus s was stock android, but cyanogenmod offers battery life and all the awesomeness of stock.
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/18/rumor-samsung-to-release-2ghz-dual-core-phone-as-powerful-as-a-pc/
I think I just destroyed your dreams
Bye Bye G2x/Sensation/GalaxyS2's Hype.

SGS4 or Nexus S

Im so confused on which one to get. I mean the SGS2 is a vibrant with 4g pretty much? And i dont know if the nexus s has 4g capability? I can get the sgs4 for 139. and the nexus s off best buy for 99. Really want to based this on development. So any info i would appericate it
nexus is best your choice .
Can you give me a more detailed answer as in why? I mean i like the sgs4 cause i always liked the vibrant. But the nexus s does have development. The only thing that scares me is the Internal 16gb which will lead into corrupting if a bad flash is done!
I recently had to make the same decision and had friends with both I borrowed for a week.
The nexus s is amazingly fast. It boots and shuts down in a fraction of the time. It has flash for the camera. It has gps that actually works right out of the box. It has a cooler design and a much more solid feel. It has the nfc that you will probably never use. It has premium support and google ota updates of the newest stuffs. The usb port also has a much nicer feel.
Video playback is poor compared to the vibrant.
It lacks support for most 3d games.
There is no sd card slot
No gorilla glass
I have owned several vibrants and everything that is true for them is true for the sgs4g. The screen is amazing and is protected by gorilla glass. Video playback is second to none. Games play like a dream.
Gps is essentially unusable on most handsets.
The case is cheap feeling and looking.
No flash for camera
I decided video playback and game support was more important than flash and gps but I am upset those are the best choices. You might be wise to just wait for the price to drop on the x2.
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Im coming from sprint. I had both evo and epic. The evo had great devs, while the epic has little to no support at all. CM7 and MIUI are still in alpha stages. I just dont want the sgs4 to be like the epic. I was looking at the lg gxs or whatever their having alot of issues on the first batch released(bleeding screen, phone wont connect to 3g) Mt4g(feels cheap though) sgs4 or nexus are the only ones i would consider getting.
If I could go back in time I would choose the mt4g rooted with cm7, sgs4g has its benefits like said earlier except I don't use it for movies or gaming I bounce between apps often and fast and the sgs4g would sometimes lag.
So I bought the g2x and while it is wicked fast and extremely strong with already great support for development, the phone has its issues and chooses when the issues will come up, I would just go scan the general thread for the g2x real quick
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It seems to me, the SGS4G is slow to get developer support for ROMS and such. That is the only reason I regret owning one. However, after rooting and applying the FOTA fix, it is a cool phone.
From my understanding, phones like the Nexus will have tons of ROMS and customization because they are not tainted by integrations such as Samsung's Touch Wiz and are easier to work with.
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Sgs4g I like the video playback but thats just my opinion. Gps is pretty good for me and it is true no dev support on the sgs4g I mean not as much as other phonea so of you are looking to play around with the phone like changing roms and kernels stuff like that I wouldnt recommend unless you dont mind waiting which is my case I dont mind waiting so I dont have any complaints. One last thing it does lag here and there but is not that bad. Really cant say much about nexus s I havent even play with it. G2x was mentioned it is a beast pgone but I went to the g2x forums and there were a los of complaints with the screen you ahould go check it out. Best thing to do is just go to the forums of each device and read about it, comments and complaints and it would help a lot.
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I think the sgs4g is the best device I've owned but thats after doing some system tweaks like getting root, freezing some apps, alter minfree to strict settings for better ram handling when swapping applications, changing the disk scheduler to deadline, doing the fota files fix and getting a class 6 micro sd card. After all that this phone has never lag or failed period. But out the box...is fast. Once u have used it for about a week or two thats when you could start seing lag by either apps you have downloaded and new services running in the background not counting the unnecesary ones that were already running when you first get it...gps works flawlesly and so does everything else, but thats after you hack the phone the way you want it...
Up to you though...
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The only reason the Nexus s is any faster is because it came stock with the ext4 file system. Our phones have the same file system as the Vibrant (rfs) It is not efficient, and that is where our lag is coming from.
We will start seeing some ROMS that will have ext4 built into them. When we do get this we will see quad scores around 1700-1800. To give you an idea our phones stock will score around 900. EXT4 ruffly doubles the speeds of the system. Now if you add ext4 with an overclocked kernel. The scores will be around if not higher than 2000.
This phone will be very fast and stable in not to long.
Thanks guys for the help. I went to go play with the following phones today:
g2x- Front looks really nice, and the display showed sharped for lcd. BUT my epic seems faster? and the back of the phone is FUGLY I mean the color, color........color lol! Reminds me of those cheap boost mobile off the wall colors. A case may solve that problem but i wouldnt pay 200 for it knowing how the back looked to me.
g2- Fast little thing, seen the potiental of it on xda, pretty much a better looking sprint htc evo shift 4G. BUT the demo hinge was BARELY on the phone. Soo going have to pass on that looks like a future problem.
mt4g- The best one of the group. Fast, comfortable in hand, light and Fast and xda support helps it there in my book. BUT its looks cheap. I mean how the color contrast clash on the phone. If i got one had to be either be the red one or white one.
sgs4- Some idiot STOLE THE DEMO! soooo i gotta go back tomorrow to look at it!!!
Nexus s- Actually locally a guy was selling one on CL. So i meet him to look at it. the screen is awesome of course cause of the superman screen lol! BUT the phone Looks cheaper than the mt4g!!!! I mean its all plastic and black gloss. Drop it and your gonna be hurting really bad. Also you have to deal with best buy and google since they sell it and tmobile just provides the service. I may sound anal but im a complex thinker and i always think ahead of myself.
Whole day of researching and im still confused and dont know which one to get lol!!!!
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Im coming from sprint. I had both evo and epic. The evo had great devs, while the epic has little to no support at all. CM7 and MIUI are still in alpha stages. I just dont want the sgs4 to be like the epic. I was looking at the lg gxs or whatever their having alot of issues on the first batch released(bleeding screen, phone wont connect to 3g) Mt4g(feels cheap though) sgs4 or nexus are the only ones i would consider getting.
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I'm a proud owner of a G2x... though some screens have bleeding issues.... mine doesn't... There are plenty of G2x's that are doing just fine, it's just easier to complain.... If you do have issues, you will have a 1 year warranty which means you will be able to switch it when new batches come out and by then issues should have been fixed... Whatever you do BUY THE PHONE IN STORE to test the device... Play with the settings and everything! If you are going to get a phone GET THE BEST there is to offer you and right now that would be the G2x...
SGS4G and Nexus S both have their flaws and are similar devices... The Nexus S isn't 4g capable (if that matters to you)... the SGS4G isn't anything to dazzle over and the Touch Wiz UI isn't my favorite... If you can wait a little longer it may be worth looking at the HTC Sensation...
No offense but i dont see why people rave so much about the sensation. Its a dual core evo 4g. Had two evo 4g when i was with sprint.......Nothing special. Sure it will probably have a bunch of dev support. But to me its not something wanting on for.
But after reading more reviews and seeing on the g2x side. Its not seeming so bad now. Also you have to consider that im coming to tmobile so late while the g2 mt4g and nexus s are kinda old i guess you can say. Even though the g2 and mt4g will get 2.3 but i think thats about it for them as OTA updates.
the Nexus S 4G...on TMO...would be......oh wait...why am I dreaming again
Get teh Samsung Galaxy S4G if you're planning to get a data plan and actually use it
SGS4
Very low internal space, 200MB as apposed to the Vibrants 16G. The phone benchmarks pretty low. But it does have the fastest antenna at 21mbs.
Nexus S
Wow it has a curved screen..... but no SD card support???? Why? Pretty cool but the download speeds will be lower because no 4g support.
If you're looking for the best I suggest the G2x or G2. I personaly use the G2 and it is amazing. But tmo just launched the G2x and it is to die for. Amazing 8MP camera, dual core processor, hdmi out for hdtv support. Get that if anything, the two phones you're deciding between have already been out dated by the G2x.
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Wait til the Sensation or even better the SGS 2....but wait something will come out better right after...mytouch 4g slide anyone...??
It sounds like the price is a concern of the op.... I say go for the nexus s... the network speed increase with the sgs4g is not enough to overcome the lack of developer support. And its cheaper. Then again... the g2x is your best choice ATM... if you have the $$$.
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I had the SGS4G and exchanged it for the G2x and I have no regrets. This phone is amazingly fast and responsive and dev support is already awesome. Within 2 or 3 days the phone had clockworkmod working through ROM manager.
Pretty amazing. Plus Cyanogen, Team Whiskey and others already got the phone and are working on the ROM.
If you still have a choice I say go with the G2x. Dual core is future proof. Just came out, so this phone will probably be good for the next 2 years.
Hope that helps with your decision
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Galaxy s 2
I'd wait for galaxy s 2! I think i will be the best phone for a while

Is this a Good Phone

Im looking into buying a nexus s and just wanna see what ppl on these forums have to say about it. Overall is it a good phone? how's the rooting process hard? Does rooting vastly improve it like it did my hero? General opinions on the phone?
Thanks for any input
Like you, I came from a HTC Hero. Rooting isn't necessary to squeeze more performance from the nexus s compared to the hero. Having said that, it is strongly recommended to root it because it allows you to do so much more on the nexus s. In terms of performance wise, rooting does not "vastly" improve the performance.
General opinions of the phone are its great! Go get it.
The rooting process is extremely simple. Go do a quick search on the forums.
Great phone. Fairly easy to root. The guides available are great as long as you follow it verbatim. The phone itself is fast as is and has large internal memory for apps. Rooting is worth it IMO. The extra overclock and undervolt keeps the phone always running fluid and increases battery life significantly.
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Thanks for the input guys...REALLY looking forward to gettin this
Im getting another one this will be my 3rd. Its def a keeper. Vanilla and constant updates 1st
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Yeah hero is probably the worst effin phone ever made in the history of all phones so any upgrade is a blessing.
And yes, the hero sucked so many balls. The slowest laggiest POS ever.
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Yeah hero is probably the worst effin phone ever made in the history of all phones so any upgrade is a blessing.
And yes, the hero sucked so many balls. The slowest laggiest POS ever.
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I actually thought Hero sent the trend on how Android devices should look and function.
Anyway, imo, nexus s is the best android phone, I just got one yesterday, samoled version (dislike slcd), I love everything about the phone. It even performs better than my brother's HTC Sensation even with its dual core.
my next phone will either be the next nexus or galaxy s3.
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I have the galaxy s vibrant. Would you guys still recomend me to get the nexus s? I can get one at a very good price.. But im wondering if its worth the change. Any input is welcome
Edit: sorry for the thread highjack, thought of posting here rather than creating a new thread.
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I have the galaxy s vibrant. Would you guys still recomend me to get the nexus s? I can get one at a very good price.. But im wondering if its worth the change. Any input is welcome
Edit: sorry for the thread highjack, thought of posting here rather than creating a new thread.
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I love my Nexus S (coming from an HTC Magic), but if you already have a Galaxy S, I don't think it's worth the trouble: they have pretty much the same hardware inside. In addition, IIRC, Galaxy S has Gorilla glass, a SD card slot, FM radio and 720p recording.
The best thing about the Nexus S is that it's vanilla Android, constantly updated and officially supported by Google. It has NFC, which the Galaxy S doesn't have, and gets better support from app developers as well. I didn't need all those hardware features the Galaxy S had: I just wanted *the* Google phone :-D.
Basically, the Nexus line is much better supported than the Galaxy S line, but if you're in XDA, I guess you won't mind flashing a vanilla ROM to your Galaxy S.
Thanks for your reply. You made good points on my deciding factor. But even if im on xda, i hate having to flash my phone all the time (my sgs is stock). I just want the latest version of android.
Here's the thing.. Someone wants to buy my sgs for $300. I have credits on my account and could get the nexus s for $308 all in. Or i can just save my credits and let it accumulate over the next few months to buy a better phone. But im really itching for a stock vanilla android phone. Decisions decisions...
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Stay with Galaxy S. As soon as you go to Nexus S, you will miss your Galaxy S. IMHO, Nexus S is a downgrade from Galaxy S. I did this mistake but within 2 weeks gladly came back to Galaxy S. But if you are too itchy, buy Nexus S and compare both head on head. Know the difference yourself and get rid of the one you find inferior compared to the other.
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Stay with Galaxy S. As soon as you go to Nexus S, you will miss your Galaxy S. IMHO, Nexus S is a downgrade from Galaxy S. I did this mistake but within 2 weeks gladly came back to Galaxy S. But if you are too itchy, buy Nexus S and compare both head on head. Know the difference yourself and get rid of the one you find inferior compared to the other.
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I dont think it is a downgrade, i think the point in android world is " you cant have everything"... sure, sgs has a lot of features that we dont have in nxs, but nxs also has some things over sgs... and you need to decide what you are looking for, what comes first for you...
I came from a desire hd, that in specs is worse of nxs, and i am pretty much satisfeid with it. I guess the point is: it's good to look specs, but it is only half part, the other half is about daily usage.
Back to the question, if i were you i would wait a little bit more, swap for a nealy phone, more than 6 months old... maybe you can get a sgs II or wait for the new nexus prime, i just dont know if it a good idea.. =o)
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I dont think it is a downgrade, i think the point in android world is " you cant have everything"... sure, sgs has a lot of features that we dont have in nxs, but nxs also has some things over sgs... and you need to decide what you are looking for, what comes first for you...
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I think the only additional thing Nexus S has is flash. I have my own reservations about the quality of HTC phones after using HTC Desire for few weeks. But if the choice is between SGS and NS, SGS clearly has an edge. But again, its individual's choice. Whatever works the best for you.
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Absolutely disagree. I've had the vibrant for the last 9 months and thought it was awesome but then the lag gets unbearable because of the file system. I went in with my brother and dad and got a family plan and we got the nexus s since I thought that would be the best (hulu, Netflix, etc all came out first for it) and you get software updates first too from Google. And the phone is wicked fast. I thought I would miss touchwiz and all the quirks but you know what I did for like 3 days. And the battery life on this sucker is amazing. I think its a great buy especially for me. But each his own. People have different wants and needs and everybody needs to do their research before buying and investing in something so expensive.
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Stay with Galaxy S. As soon as you go to Nexus S, you will miss your Galaxy S. IMHO, Nexus S is a downgrade from Galaxy S. I did this mistake but within 2 weeks gladly came back to Galaxy S. But if you are too itchy, buy Nexus S and compare both head on head. Know the difference yourself and get rid of the one you find inferior compared to the other.
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Well I do not disagree. Galaxy S does need a little bit of tweaking to get the full performance out of it. All I did with my SGS was to install JVO 2.3.4, root it and this changed it to a totally different phone. Yes, I use stock gingerbread launcher and keyboard instead of touchwiz or Samsung keyboard. All of this takes hardly 30 minutes.
Nexus S is definitely fast out of the box. But gorilla glass, FM radio, expandable memory slot, better video recording give SGS an edge over NS. SGS just needs half an hour more to reveal its potential.
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I wrote a review to answer this first post.
Here is a review I put together as I had same initial questions. Hope it helps.
My first experience with android was rooting a Hero, since then I enjoyed a year with a rooted EVO, but after several boot-looping experiences which I was unable to correct, the phone had become unusable, and I was forced to choose a new phone a little more premature than I would have liked. I had my heart set on the specs of the Galaxy S II but after enjoying two HTC phones and how easily they were rooted I also leaned toward the EVO 3D. I will admit here, that I was a “flash-aholic” when it came to trying out new ROMs and kernels, and would probably continue to have been so if it weren’t for the boot-loop and force closing problem I was having.
I decided to go ahead and get a Sprint Nexus S 4G instead of waiting another ten days for the EVO 3D, knowing that if I didn’t have a good experience with the Nexus, I could return it within the 30 day trial period. The Sprint rep. was very helpful and honest with his assistance, he showed me that the Nexus even in the store was not picking up as good a signal as the EVO 4G, and I expressed concern about receiving signal at my residence, as frequently I had to step outside in the back yard to have a phone conversation using the EVO.
Initial setup of the Nexus was surprisingly easy, but just as suspected the signal at home was weak, though not any worse than the EVO. A call to Sprint tech support the next day helped when they offered to send me an Airave unit, which I received in only one week and found a dramatic improvement for not only my phone but my wife’s EVO as well. Thank you Sprint!
My next adventure was whether or not to root this phone, as I held off until I decided I was going to keep it. It was a little bit of a challenge for me to set up adb capabilities on my computer but worth the research. So I was now set up to make the root possible, however, reading up on the Nexus didn’t convince me that rooting was to my best advantage at this time, so I have held off. The signal problem had been resolved, my battery life has been great, my phone is extremely fast, and tethering works right out of the box, most importantly is everything works well without bugs or any other problems. This doesn’t mean I won’t root when I see a clear advantage in the future, and fortunately rooting the Nexus is as easy as it can get.
Instead I have used ADW EX customizations to optimize this phone for my best android experience, and it is this point convincing me to keep it. The Nexus S has none of the Sprint bloat-ware profligation, and none of the manufacturer skin-ware. Using ADW EX and android widgets, I was able to customize my Nexus to suit my needs perfectly. The best part of the experience is that I got to choose how my phone worked, and my phone now operates exactly how I want it to, I might also mention that Launcher Pro would work very well also. Ah, the beauty of android.
Later the next week I went into a local RadioShack to have hands-on time with the EVO 3D to make certain I had made the best choice. I did that Sense 3 twirl thing and the rep mentioned the limitations of Nexus screen scrolling, I showed him that my phone also had infinity scrolling. He was surprised and didn’t go any further.
Sure the latest summer phones have better specs, more powerful hardware, and unique features (3D), but for me at least, they don’t really make for a better android experience than a Nexus. Here is a list of widgets I have included on my screens.
Agenda widget keeps an excellent display of my appointments.
Springpad for notes and general organization uses.
Google+ widget, as well as android system widget for general phone info.
I use Jorte calendar to fill up one entire screen.
The control widget for quick access to phone controls.
The Starbuck coffee widget cause I gotta admit, I like my coffee.
Skype video calls work excellently and I use it frequently since most phone users still don’t have Google Talk video. I have combined Facebook with Twitter using Tweetdeck, and this app I keep in an easily accessible hidden dock which contains many of my frequently used apps, one of the best features of ADW EX and used by many ROMs such as Cyanogen.
The overall flow and performance of the phone is flawless, handling multi-functioning easily, Bluetooth works very well, wi-fi at home and at my local Starbucks is good, pictures are adequate and the general feel of the phone is sleek without giving up that much on size coming from an EVO slab phone user. The idea that updates get pushed out to Nexus phones before anyone else will keep me a happy user for some time to come as the Nexus is a developer’s phone hence new applications often come to this phone first, the recent case of Skype video calling is a great example.
What do I miss most, or wished improved? I must admit I do miss that EVO kickstand, which was a nice feature though I can’t help but think it would mess with the sleekness of the Nexus. The missing sd card hasn’t been an issue for me, but I suppose it could be for others. There are times I still miss the LED notification light, though that is minor thing. I have read others complain of the back being slick and a fingerprint magnet, but I stuck an Egrip strip with a cool image to help in handling the phone better and reduce the space for smudges.
Are there better phones out there this summer? Sure, if you go by hardware specs, so if photo quality is important to you with a better camera and more features such as 3D, or if you just can’t live without that LED notification light, the Nexus may not be for you. A dual core phone is slightly faster, but hardly noticeable and does 1 second or less really make that much difference? Do they make better use of the android system though? In my opinion this is where the Nexus excels and for me that is the true strength of this phone and why I suggest giving it a serious consideration.
I would probably keep the galaxy s in favor of the nexus s, mainly because of the browser-lag issue in the nexus. It is a great phone, but I don't think vanilla android brings to the table that much you should sell your galaxy. Hardware wise you would be gaining nothing.
You almost might as well wait for the next nexus that probably will come at the same time as ice-cream sandwich (Q4). Nexus is nice because you get the updates almost immediately, but Google has indicated that there will be no major updates before the launch of ICS. So why not wait for the phone that launches with ICS?
i just LOVE nexus s... Fast smooth amazing battery life, bought it two days ago and i completely fell in love with it. Coming from htc sense i thought vanilla would feel a little "vanilla" but no sir, the speed and the battery pays off sure if ur a guy who likes to use camera a lot then sgs might be a better option, but for all other things i believe sns is better. plus the curved screen is sexy
of course, most people here recognize this phone as good one. you know this phone even been to Space. how great.. haha

Is The Samsung Galaxy Epic Touch a worthy upgrade?

Do you guys think the Galaxy S2 is a worthy upgrade from the nexus s because I have the choice to get one right now and wanted to know you guys opinion?
Hardly seems worth it since you'll be switching to a phone running an older version of Android. The Nexus S is still a fairly competitive phone even with year old hardware.
the situation i'm in is either get a new phone now or wait 2 more years with the nexus s. Does that change things?
Well I have the epic touch 4g and it's amazing, now with that said I just got my gf a nexus and put ics on it it also is amazing. The epic is the only upgrade I see and it's worth it but your not gonna get ics for another month or more. Now with calks rom, desparado kernal, and ics theme I love it more than anything (except a galaxy nexus).
If you can get one for not too much money I would say yes as the nexus while it's great with ics and glades kernal it's still not perfect, it's almost there but ics is still early.
Either way each option is good so I say go for the epic touch or wait and pray and hope sprint gets the galaxy nexus because that is the only phone I can see myself leaving the epic for. And once the epic gets ics the epic in some ways is really better.
My wife's gs2 (epic 4g touch) blows my nexus s 4g away. There is no comparison. After owning it, there are no regrets. I have nexus owners that admit it is a very nice phone lol.
When u look at the camera, battery life, size, CPU, gpu...the list of **** it actually does, built in screen shot, can connect Bluetooth keyboard/mouse, HDMI via mhl adapter...
I have played w ics and plenty of ics roms for my ns4g, owned plenty of phones and the gs2 on sprint is arguably one of the best phones I have ever touched, no pun intended.
My ns4g just feels slow in comparison.
Go try a dual core device at Sprint to get a better idea of the differences. I found the most obvious differences in scrolling rich web pages, doing other stuff while updating apps, using the device during TB backups, etc.
Don't forget, you also get a huge increase in ram, screen size, and even notable boost in battery life (YMMV) . ICS won't be available for a while, so keep that in mind as well.
I have two Epics and two Epic Touches.. one of the latter is new if you want to trade for your NS +, cash
isn't the epic touch wimax? Not late? I'd wait for an lte device.
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isn't the epic touch wimax? Not late? I'd wait for an lte device.
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Yes but sprints network rollout is worthless. I have heard about rev b since October yet no one has posted it actually being functional. Maybe by 2013 or 14.sprint spent so much on iPhones seems like they can't put new towers up, all the while Verizon is bringing 4g to way more places w the aggressive rollout.

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