Hi all, I have read many articles that say to be able to use adobe flash player 10.1 you must have armv7 processor, I was wondering,
what's the difference between armv6 and armv7?
Is it possible to modify the armv6 based phone to be able to use that?
wht r phones that use armv7?
thx b4..
Hi and welcome
You can not change the processor, it would be like making your P4 a core i5, I think the difference is in the architecture and the instructions.
However you can check if your phone supports it or not, devices with qualcomm snapdragon should support flash, you can find a comprehensive list of device specs here - pdadb.net
freakzone said:
Hi and welcome
You can not change the processor, it would be like making your P4 a core i5, I think the difference is in the architecture and the instructions.
However you can check if your phone supports it or not, devices with qualcomm snapdragon should support flash, you can find a comprehensive list of device specs here - pdadb.net
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i see, so just the phone with qualcomm snapdragon that will support flash right?
is there any chance the other phone with different processor could do the same?
Because if not, it will affect the price of all entry level android phone in the future and it means we have to buy an expensive android phone to just be able to use flash
The samsungs with the ~1 Ghz CPU will probably support it, as well as tegra and tiomap, just check the particular device you want
I have AT&T Infuse and currently using ROM MIUI v1.10.21, baseband UCKJ2.
Is my phone a ARMv7 or ARMv6?
I did a Quadrant and CPU is ARM Cortex A8 (Hummingbird). So that mean i'm ARMv8?
Thx.
cat2115 said:
I have AT&T Infuse and currently using ROM MIUI v1.10.21, baseband UCKJ2.
Is my phone a ARMv7 or ARMv6?
I did a Quadrant and CPU is ARM Cortex A8 (Hummingbird). So that mean i'm ARMv8?
Thx.
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Why does it matter? Are you going to to developing or something ha. I think its 7, but therez a big chance its an 8. I think 8 is dual core though, and I know tegra2 is 9, but I'm pretty sure its seven. Someone correct me if om wrong ha.
the reason i ask cuz i want to install font and not sure if i should download ARMv7 or ARMv6 created by a community called CAUG (Cambodia Android Users Group).
The hummingbird is a Cortex A8, so yeah.
Only the OMAP4, Exynos(beast), and Tegra 2 are Cortex A9.
Sent from my phone. :3
I know its confusing, cortex A8 is actual v7. The designations may refer to different things but all the A8 processors i've seen also say v7.
The Instruction set is ARMv7. The processor branding is CORTEX A8... like pentium, or Athalon. A = application processor, can be M A or R for different tasks, this sigifies a qualification for certaint tasks. , 8 signifies a speed level.
ARMv7 with NEON extension, if you're interested in downloading a codec pack with performance optimizations.
Hello guys,
I'm kinda confused here.
I'm asking about a CPU I seen some phones and tablets claim that they have it as a Quad Core processor but somehow in other places like in Antutu and other benchmark programs it'll say something else.
now in the Chinese phone Market you'll see a new line of Quad Core Devices, tablets or phones.
they say they have: Samsung Exynos 4412 CPU and as far as I know this is a Quad Core Processor.
but when u launch Antutu for example on some of these new Chinese Devices you'll see it says:
Exynos 4x12
and will show something like this:
CPU Hardware: SMDK4x12
CPU model: Dual-Core ARMv7 Processor (VFPv3, NEON)
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and actually when I read: Exynos 4x12 so the "X" doesn't clear it for me is it: 4212 the dual core one or the 4412 the Quad core one.. u see what I mean?
this is really confusing.
try for yourself searching for Galaxy s3 Clones or knockoff - Galaxy Note 2 Clones or knockoff and u'll see similar things to what I'm asking about.
also the GPU shows in some of these phones claiming to have Quad Core Exynos 4412 that it's: powervr sgx531, while the Samsung Exynos Quad core will have GPU: Mali-T604
lol the whole thing is messed up there..
hope that someone would come and clear it out so we dont get scammed when buying these devices.
thanks
Most Galaxy S2 or S3 clones and knock-offs use an MTK chipset such as the 6575 or the 6577. These would normally be paired with a previous-gen GPU such as the PowerVR SGX 530 or 531.
It is quite easy to modify Android to display a string about the CPU, anything you want really.
A true Exynos CPU will ship with a Mali GPU. The 4x series shipped with the Mali-400, the Exynos 5 in the Chromebook and Nexus 10 ships with the Mali-604, as you stated.
In short, you won't find an Exynos device without a Mali GPU. If it lists anything else - you're probably being misled
thx juzz86 for your reply.
u know what is making this confusion in my opinion?
it's when u read the CPU saying this:
CPU Hardware: SMDK4x12
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SMDK stands for: Samsung Mobile Developers Kit and the 4x12 most people will think it's the Quad Core Exynos 4412 cause in the advertisement of the device(s) the sellers claim it has Quad Core processor.
so I found out that: reading SMDK4x12 or even SMDK4412 doesn't mean that the processor itself is the Exynos 4412 Quad Core.
the funny thing is when I demand from some sellers to go online with me and to turn on the camera so I can see for myself whats going on, only then they get scared when they see me ask alot about the CPU and that I doubt it's the Quad Core.
I also have to confess that some of them (the sellers) honestly didn't know that they have a Dual Core Device and not a Quad Core.
so guys... watch out and pay extra attention to the new Claimed to be Samsung Exynos Quad Core 4412 Processor.
ask for proof and Guarantees, and good luck
thanks again juzz
Yes mate, always pays to ask a lot of questions before buying one of these. Unfortunately as you say, most sellers don't understand what they are selling, just that it is 'dual-SIM'.
There is a pretty good following behind at least two of the clones here in the 'General' and 'Android Hacking' forums. Doing a quick search should pull up some.root methods as well.
MTK are getting better, and now even have a quad-core CPU in the works. That'll be a compelling option for some knock-offs, for sure!
Happy buying mate!
Quod
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
I think I just got scammed. Bought one of ebay couple of days ago and realize its most likely a fake
Hi guys could you suggest me a decent phone with good specifications. I have suggested a few of them though I am really confused between them. The XoloX1000 has an intel 2.0GHz processor whereas the XoloQ1000 has a 1.2Ghz Quard core mediatech processor.Also the Xolo Play has an nvidia tegra 3 processor. I am also looking for xperia l or xperia c. Some people say 1.0Ghz Quallcom processor would be faster than the 1.2Ghz quard core processor.Please suggest the best one amongst the above.Also you can suggest your own best phone within this range
PS A decent GPU would also be necessary
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Hi guys could you suggest me a decent phone with good specifications. I have suggested a few of them though I am really confused between them. The XoloX1000 has an intel 2.0GHz processor whereas the XoloQ1000 has a 1.2Ghz Quard core mediatech processor.Also the Xolo Play has an nvidia tegra 3 processor. I am also looking for xperia l or xperia c. Some people say 1.0Ghz Quallcom processor would be faster than the 1.2Ghz quard core processor.Please suggest the best one amongst the above.Also you can suggest your own best phone within this range
PS A decent GPU would also be necessary
Please quote my lines so that I would be informed as soon as you reply
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I just bought a HTC One and I love it. Quad core processor with a great GPU. Very easy to root so this gives u more options.
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I just bought a HTC One and I love it. Quad core processor with a great GPU. Very easy to root so this gives u more options.
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HTC One is great but I need something that fits my wallet
Is it possible to run arm64-v8a
games on my Redmi 9c M2006C3MG (armeabi-v7a)?
It may sound an absurd question to you experts but I googled a lot about it and couldn't be convinced that isn't possible.
Thanks a lot in advance
64-bit SoCs ( ARMV8 archictecture ) can run 32-bit apps, but 32-bit SoCs ( ARMV7 aechitecture ) cannot run 64-bit apps. If the architecture is wrong installation will just fail and app won't run.
xXx yYy said:
64-bit SoCs ( ARMV8 archictecture ) can run 32-bit apps, but 32-bit SoCs ( ARMV7 aechitecture ) cannot run 64-bit apps. If the architecture is wrong installation will just fail and app won't run.
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Thanks a lot for your clarification
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Is it possible to run arm64-v8a
games on my Redmi 9c M2006C3MG (armeabi-v7a)?
It may sound an absurd question to you experts but I googled a lot about it and couldn't be convinced that isn't possible.
Thanks a lot in advance
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what? Mediatek G35 is a arm64 chip so you should able to run 64bit game
Grecco 22 said:
Is it possible to run arm64-v8a
games on my Redmi 9c M2006C3MG (armeabi-v7a)?
It may sound an absurd question to you experts but I googled a lot about it and couldn't be convinced that isn't possible.
Thanks a lot in advance
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Check if your os run in 32bit or 64bit mode
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Check if your os run in 32bit or 64bit mode
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So, that's the controversy Guan Yu. I've posted this question because after researching a lot about the subject I came to a conclusion that although this device comes with an armeabi-v7a CPU, its processor is capable to run 64bit games, if it's not already a 64bit processor.
Answering your question, any device info tool that I've installed says the arquitecture of my phone is only armeabi-v7a therefore I'm able to install only 32bit games.
To me is very embarrassing this controversy because I would do anything including rooting my phone to be able to play 64bit games on it.
Also I would like to add to my phone's specs that it is 4GB RAM, with 128GB storage.
Normally this device model comes with 2 or 3GB RAM and 32/64GB storage only.
Thanks for your contribution on trying to solve this question Guan Yu.
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So, that's the controversy Guan Yu. I've posted this question because after researching a lot about the subject I came to a conclusion that although this device comes with an armeabi-v7a CPU, its processor is capable to run 64bit games, if it's not already a 64bit processor.
Answering your question, any device info tool that I've installed says the arquitecture of my phone is only armeabi-v7a therefore I'm able to install only 32bit games.
To me is very embarrassing this controversy because I would do anything including rooting my phone to be able to play 64bit games on it.
Also I would like to add to my phone's specs that it is 4GB RAM, with 128GB storage.
Normally this device model comes with 2 or 3GB RAM and 32/64GB storage only.
Thanks for your contribution on trying to solve this question Guan Yu.
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can you send me a screenshot about your phone specs ? Im curious about it
Well the OP's phone probably have a arm64 chipset but 32 bit software, because in that case all apps that list phone specs will recognise it as 32 bit phone.
As I know, Redmi 9C uses MediaTek Helio G35 chipset. Inside the MediaTek Helio G35 is a 64-bit octa-core Arm Cortex-A53 CPU.
The mentioned phone has a 64-bit SoC, means it can process ARMv8-2.A instruction set.
But: Whether a phone's Android OS runs in 32-bit or 64-bit mode is determined by phone's Android kernel at boottime - the kernel is the 1st thing what gets loaded by device's bootloader.
Guan Yu said:
can you send me a screenshot about your phone specs ? Im curious about it
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A more in depth info:
---------Device---------
Device name: Redmi 9C
Model: M2006C3MG
Manufacturer: Xiaomi
Device: angelica
Board: angelica
Hardware: mt6765
Brand: Redmi
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Version name: Android 10 Q
Kernel architecture: armv8l
Kernel version: 268 MB
---------CPU---------
Hardware: MT6765G
Cores: 8
CPU frequency: 400MHz - 2301MHz
Core 1: 1750 Mhz
Core 2: 1750 Mhz
Core 3: 1750 Mhz
Core 4: 1750 Mhz
Core 5: 1800 Mhz
Core 6: 1800 Mhz
Core 7: 1800 Mhz
Core 8: 1800 Mhz
SOC: Mediatek Helio G35
Processor: AArch64 Processor rev 4 (aarch64)
Supported ABIs: armeabi-v7a, armeabi
CPU hardware: MT6765G
CPU governor: Unknown
GPU renderer: PowerVR Rogue GE8320
GPU vendor: Imagination Technologies
GPU version: OpenGL ES-CM 1.1
When will you take notice of fact that only 32-bit ( ARMEABI-v7a ) apps/services are supported though SoC is 64-bit capable? If you want to have true 64-bit support then you have to replace device's Android kernel by a kernel what supports 64-bit processing - and also the Android OS by a 64-bit one.
As I've asked and said in the first place, to you guys who are experts my question may seem too obvious but I will risk to take my conclusions based on the answers posted here.
To run 64bit apk on my device I need another rom, is that right?
Of course I need to root it right?
Is there any recommended rom to my device in which I would be able to run the 64bit apks?
I'm really grateful for your answers! Thank you
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Grecco 22 said:
As I've asked and said in the first place, to you guys who are experts my question may seem too obvious but I will risk to take my conclusions based on the answers posted here.
To run 64bit apk on my device I need another rom, is that right?
Of course I need to root it right?
Is there any recommended rom to my device in which I would be able to run the 64bit apks?
I'm really grateful for your answers! Thank you
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it is quite unfair to users , 32bit in 2022 ?, come on . I have a redmi 5 running snapdragon 450 , although it is older and performs as well as Mediatek G35 , it runs in 64 bit mode and can install 64bit games . This is a rather confusing and unfair step by xiaomi, plus the device runs a mediatek chip, so there is no custom kernel for you. so you can say you bought the scam
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it is quite unfair to users , 32bit in 2022 ?, come on . I have a redmi 5 running snapdragon 450 , although it is older and performs as well as Mediatek G35 , it runs in 64 bit mode and can install 64bit games . This is a rather confusing and unfair step by xiaomi, plus the device runs a mediatek chip, so there is no custom kernel for you. so you can say you bought the scam
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OMG !! How incoherent smartphones companies perpetrate technology !
It's frustrating.
Grecco 22 said:
OMG !! How incoherent smartphones companies perpetrate technology !
It's frustrating.
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Also, Many apps on play Store are now dropping support for 32 bit. I think it's intentionally done by xioami so that their customers buy their more expensive devices.
Even my old Nokia 3 from 2017 which had a Mediatek MT6737 (weaker than snapdragon 410) ran on a 64 bit kernel and os.
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Also, Many apps on play Store are now dropping support for 32 bit. I think it's intentionally done by xioami so that their customers buy their more expensive devices.
Even my old Nokia 3 from 2017 which had a Mediatek MT6737 (weaker than snapdragon 410) ran on a 64 bit kernel and os.
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Regrettable their approaching
Grecco 22 said:
OMG !! How incoherent smartphones companies perpetrate technology !
It's frustrating.
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It's also partly due to the way consumers buy phones blindly. most of them don't even know what functions their device has. And these are the consequences of it, companies take advantage of this to make more money. If consumers better understand what they are spending, the companies that make money from the blindness of customers will be eliminated and create a fairer game .
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It's also partly due to the way consumers buy phones blindly. most of them don't even know what functions their device has. And these are the consequences of it, companies take advantage of this to make more money. If consumers better understand what they are spending, the companies that make money from the blindness of customers will be eliminated and create a fairer game .
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To be honest I did wanted to know this phone specs before I was buying it.
But after confirming so many other (at least to me) important features of this device model such as RAM memory, storage and it's processor, I not even gave much attention to the architecture of it, thinking that it would be obviously running both a 64bit/32bit architecture, therefore being able to run such games.
Maybe I'm not the only one who owns a device like this hoping who knows some day someone coming up with a 'magical rom solution' to it.
(the kernel stuff)
At last, I have no complain about the rest of the device capabilities which are marvelous.
I was getting ready to root it if it was the condition to make it capable of running 64bits applications.
If there's no such rom, I will try to keep it unrooted as long as I can bear MIUI and an unrooted Android.
I'm learning...