I just added an album in flac format on my z3. and if i look in walkman there is a HR behind the album and behind some songs. What does this mean? I thought it stands for high ress audio or something.
Yes it does. AFAIK it means either the bit rate is above 16 or the sampling rate is above 48kHz.
rwesten,
It means the file you're playing is not only a FLAC, but a Hi-Res FLAC. It's like this:
You got your lossy files......mp3s, AACs, which are at the lower end of music quality (but take up the least space b/c they're the most compressed). Then you got CD-Quality files and Hi-Res tracks, usually in the FLAC format (or related like ALAC). Lower quality FLAC tracks are CD-Quality. They are better than mp3s, but not AS good as Hi-Res FLACS. They are rated at 16-bit/44.1KHz (sometimes 24-bit, but not often). THEN you got your Hi-Res FLAC tracks. Like the CD-Quality FLACs, Hi-Res FLACs are lossless, which means NO data is lost or taken out (think blu-ray vs DVD). These are rated at 24-bit/96KHz, though they are definitely known to go as high as 192KHz (and in some very rare cases, up to the 300-400KHz category).
All the FLAC files are compressed, but somehow they still retain all the original music data information. They do have uncompressed lossless files like WAV files, but they take up more room, so I think FLACs are better b/c they take up less room (compressed) but still have the same sound quality (lossless). If you are a TV guy, then think of mp3s as 480p, CD-Quality FLACs as 720p, Hi-Res FLACs as 24-bit/96KHz as 1080p, and like 24-bit/192KHz+ as 4K. lol The Z3's built-in DAC (digital audio converter) can play Hi-Res but only up to 24-bit/96KHz, which is still amazing and better than most other phones. If you want higher, you can buy a separate DAC and hook it up b/t the phone and your headphones or speakers. My thinking is down the road, the DACs will get better, so you can wait and buy them later, or get them now. Maybe they will get cheaper over time, so maybe just stick with 24/96 for now.
"HR" DOES in fact mean Hi-Res. It means you're playing the highest quality of music that's available today. I just started getting into all that recently and have learned a lot in only 4-5 weeks (as you can see above). lol Some say it's all BS, but I've compared songs I have on mp3 to Hi-Res FLACs like 24-bit/96KHz, and I definitely DO notice a difference. Hi-Res doesn't sound so "closed in"........ you can hear each instrument distinctly where on the mp3 version it sounds like more condensed, or like you're listening through a small hole in the wall. lol I compared my mp3 of "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" by Led Zeppelin and then the Hi-Res FLAC version I got from www.hdtracks.com, and yeah, the HR version sounded bigger, better, more clearer, louder at the same volume....... I could hear little guitar fills much more clearly on the FLAC version too. So if you want more, go there. Not many options right now, but that's a great one with an ever growing library. Or to Pono Music (Neil Young's push for Hi-Res), though you can only look up what they have for now. The music will be available for download in the next couple months I read somewhere.
Hope that helped!
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Hi, I put some videos on my phone and it plays so slowly and skippy (sorry dont know how to explain) that it upset me !!
what do I have to do?
this videos are WMV format
what kind of formats play well? or what?
Are you for REAL???????????????????? You must be a brother to Jeb, say it aint so!
This might help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
Send me your phone via Postal Mail and I will fix the video problem for you.
I understand the problem. I have some files that have similar issues. Each video is coded for a specific bandwidth. If you have an XP machine you can open Windows Movie Maker (its on there!) and load the video into it. From there save the video out (Ctrl-P) and set the video rate to something under 250Kbps. I usually use 218Kbps. The file will likely shrink in size and will play very well on the phone. You can set it larger but you will start to see performance degrade.
Movies encoded in Divx format at 320x240, audio at 95 to 128kbps Stereo with a total bitrate under 500kbps play and look great on Kaiser. Movies are approx. 400-500mb per Movie. I just flew cross country and watched 5 movies across 4 flights and can say that the Kaiser performed flawlessly. Using TCPMP (I have core as well but use TCPMP and the streaming bundles for now) and WoW SRS, the audio thru wired noise cancelling earbuds was really excellent with suprisingly good bass!
Bottom line, I know it could be better with the correct drivers, but if you encode in this fashion this phone kicks ass as an all-in-one device. With 1.2gig taken for iGuidance and North America maps, I still carry 12 full length movies and still have room for pics and progs on my 8gig card.
If so how was the viewing and what media player did you use? I haven't tried it yet. Although I do have the latest version of TCMP loaded on my device.
I've moved some tv programs over (synced them like this http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=743) and the quality was really good. I'm just using Windows Media player which is probably the worst of the players. I found that if I went to fast forward there would be a delay between the sound and video but if I just let it play it was perfect.
I followed the advice that was posted in a previous thread (I can't locate it at the moment) and ripped my DVDs to MP4/H.264/AAC/1000 kbps/29.97 bps, 640/360 size (for 16:9 movies), then used the built-in Windows Media Player to play them. The playback is virtually flawless - smooth, no dropped frames, virtually no pixleization on action shots, etc. This even works great for really difficult movies - Blade Runner, ID4, Matrix, etc. Some notes:
- I'm storing the movies on a 8GB Class 6 microSDHC card, which provides much faster performance than the cheaper Class 2 and 4 cards
- The files are big - each 2 hour movie is around 1GB
- The movies still play great in fullscreen mode
I've used the free apps like SUPER or AutoMKV, as well as Corel DVD Copy, and they all work fine.
John
Because I already had the iPod Touch, I didn't really feel like having an iPhone. I really thought the TP would be a good alternative. Of course I realized that the multimedia experience would be a little less because of the smaller display etc. But I never would have guessed that playing any movie on my TP would be such a disappointment. I tried the mediaplayer of course and I also tried the coreplayer and the Divx player for the PPC. They all play the movie either too small, no movie at all or bad quality etc. I have to admit, I stopped trying pretty soon and will pick up on this as soon as I have flashed a custom rom or something, but I would really appreciate it when someone could direct us in this thread on how to enjoy movies on the TP.
^ that's weird because I'm using the newest version of coreplayer and its opening and playing pretty much all divx and xvid encoded files that I've copied over. I am trying to find a simple way to copy my favorite dvd movies to it though (for a long bus ride this coming T-day).
BTW, does anyone know how long the battery will last watching a movie on full charge without AC power?
Haven't watched a movie yet, but was playing around with the AT&T CV application (Cingular/ Cellular Video). My daughter and I watched a couple of preview for upcoming movies. I was blown away by the picture quality.
I moved over some regular sized movies onto my microSDHC, playing on coreplayer, output GDI, quality Medium, and it runs perfectly full screen. Make sure aspect ratio is 4:3
The only gripe so far is WMV files that are larger resolution on Coreplayer or WMP. Everything else seems to play fine. I have a copy of Casino Royale on my phone just to piss on the iphone boys when I show them my resolution and clarity. The playback is flawless it really looks like a a mini HD screen, I love this thing.
i watched happy gilmore then a bunch of tv eps that looked great using coreplayer and the divx player
but i downloaded some movie trailers from ign in wmv format and they were vga res and would barely play they had so much lag! i dont understand that at all
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I moved over some regular sized movies onto my microSDHC, playing on coreplayer, output GDI, quality Medium, and it runs perfectly full screen. Make sure aspect ratio is 4:3
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Make sure aspect ratio is 4:3? Why is that? I just tried that and this f*cked up my widescreen episode of Heroes. The GDI, quality Medium tip however, made my movie run much smoother. But again, having to set the quality to medium surely doesn't enhance the 'movie experience'.
I guess it depends how the original movie is formated. i used 4:3 for 640x360 movies. I think medium still looks great. I dont think you could expect any phone to run it super high quality. Remember we have a super high res screen for a phone.
I've streamed Borat from my PC with Orb and the quality was excellent.
I have noticed that I can watch a movie that is 640x480 at the highest quality no problem. The second i try to watch a 640 x 350 movie at high quality it lags like crazy. Anyone else notice/try this?
I have tried Pocket Player, Pocket Music, and CorePlayer. But none of them plays ALAC m4a. My previous music device was an iPod, so I have all my CD's encoded into ALAC m4a format. Do I have to transcode them all? Or is there a salvation?
ALAC require a lot of juice to play as they are allmost like old wav files
it were always a bit of a silly thing for portable players as no headset would
not be bottleneck compared to 256k/sec
even the ipod touch offical forums are full of ipod owners compalining about skipping when it comes to ALAC
I totally agree with you that no portable player + headset is any lossless audio worth. 256Kb should be sufficient enough. But I have a huge collection of ALAC audio files at home, which I rather not convert everytime I want to carry some tunes on my Xperia. My long time portable music player was iPod Touch, hence I had my collection encoded in ALAC. However, I never experienced any skips with my Touch.
M4a is pretty much all apple and somewhat new... the simplest thing is probably a batch coverter (select the files and let them all convert over night)
Here is a google search to let you choose one.
Can anyone tell me the best format to store thier music so that the files will stay resonably small but retain thier quality. I guess what I'm asking is, is there a better file format than MP3? I was storing a ton of music on my old phone's SD card, but since the Nexus S doesn't have the "extra" room an SD card allows for, I was wondering if anyone can help me to shrink the files to save space.
Also, I know, I can just carry fewer songs, so please don't put that.
Thanks.
Man just chill
there are better formats, but i don't think the stock music app actually supports them.
The nexus s does have 13GB of space on the SD card, i think that would be enough unless your one of the crazy people who spent $100 on 32GB SD card.
So how big are your MP3 files? Encode your MP3 to VBR 128-192kbps, they sound fine with good file sizes. If you're an audiophille, you'll have your own standards.
AAC is the best format, because it's actually mp3's successor. They couldn't call it mp4, because that was already used for the video file format.
AAC uses a different compression algorithm, thereby offering better sound quality at lower bitrates. 96kbs AAC = 128kbs mp3 in terms of quality.
HE-AAC v2 is an advanced format of AAC that allows even lower bitrates, such at 32kbs.
Listen to this song encoded at 32kbs: HE-AAC+v2 (44100Hz [email protected]) 1.1 MB
Yup, the entire song is 1MB!
Here is a free encoder: http://www.nero.com/enu/technologies-aac-codec.html
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AAC is the best format, because it's actually mp3's successor. They couldn't call it mp4, because that was already used for the video file format.
AAC uses a different compression algorithm, thereby offering better sound quality at lower bitrates. 96kbs AAC = 128kbs mp3 in terms of quality.
HE-AAC v2 is an advanced format of AAC that allows even lower bitrates, such at 32kbs.
Listen to this song encoded at 32kbs: HE-AAC+v2 (44100Hz [email protected]) 1.1 MB
Yup, the entire song is 1MB!
Here is a free encoder: http://www.nero.com/enu/technologies-aac-codec.html
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pretty awesome stuff there, do the android music apps support it though? stock, winamp, poweramp?
I am making a batch file that will automatically transcode any mp3 files in the current directory to HE-AAC v2 mp4 files. All you'd have to do is unzip it, copy the .bat file into the directory where your mp3 files are, then double-click the .bat file. I have it set for 64kbs for highest quality.
There are players available that will play AAC files in android, just search the market.
Also, make sure you edit the .bat file paths to the correct path of lame & neroAAC.
Code:
SET LAMEEXE="C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\AAC\lame.exe"
SET NEROAACEXE="C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\AAC\win32\neroAacEnc.exe"
doubleTwist supports mp3 AND AAC, and it's free
If you're really concerned with file size, 32 kbs is the lowest I would go and 48 kbs is a nice balance of size and quality.
I use ogg vorbis 192kbps which can yield very good quality sound, especially Android has native ogg support.
OGG Vorbis has been consistently proven to yield higher quality audio at lower file sizes than mp3, and about equal to or better than AAC. That's why it's part of Google's WebM video container format. Vorbis is supported by default in Android and is what I encode my music in (along with FLAC).
Windows doesn't support *.ogg by default (open standards aren't their thing), but this link should get you set up to listen on Windows: http://www.vorbis.com/setup_windows/
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Ogg is better than mp3, but it gets hard to tell difference between formats once you get to 320kbps. Being open source, ogg benefits from improvements over the years while mp3 is stagnant and costs to include on device. But its well adopted and almost everywhere. Other formats may be better compression, but not well supported like mp3 and ogg.
Bah! No URLs for newbs. Google for: winamp preferences guide, and on that wiki page search for the text "force transcoding"
I was looking into writing an auto-transcode app/script for just this reason, but it turns out that winamp has one built in: I set the "Force transcoding of compatible tracks if bitrate is over __ kbps:" to transcode anything above 191kbps and when syncing music over it works like a charm. You can set it to a couple different codecs, winamp seems to include LC-AAC, AACPlus, mp3, and wav.
Note that these settings only appear when you have your device attached.
Each MP3 averages to about 3-4mb. I only have about 4gb worth, so not a lot, I'm just looking to obtimize space where I can. Is there a specific AAC player for Android that you would recommend?
Oh yeah, and thanks for the helpful answers.
If you care about audio quality you wouldn't use mp3 any way.
Use 160 its the best middle ground.
Un compressed aiff is best but 10MB per minute is to big for a phone
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WMA Audio
Nexus S doesn't play wma audio ? If it does let me know how.
Thanks
Im a big advocate of FLAC but size compression is almost non existent
All my music is in mp3 format and I was just discussing with my brother how to improve sound quality. I went to the vorbis site and downloaded "audacity" a free audio converter.
I chose a mp3 file I had which was about 10mb @ 320kbs. Using audacity I exported that mp3 to .ogg and it cut the file size down to 4.2 MB @ 165kbs. Does that sound about right? Does doing a simple export actually improve sound quality? Or just cut the size down.
EDIT: I did some more digging around and apparently converting to ogg from mp3 is not recommended rather to convert to ogg from a lossless format like flac or from CD.
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320kbps is damn near lossless, you won't get much more quality from a lossless format.
Use I tunes to convert your music. It does a great job. mine is 192kps. Just about right for me for mp3. I'm just use to mp3. I will try ogg
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havent really tried myself but has anyone tried the leaked music player to see if it supports any new formats?
In particular MKV files.
I have noted that if I playback an 720p MKV with AC3/DTS sound the video plays perfectly fluid. No microjudder or frame drops AFAIK. But there is no sound of course because the inbuilt player does not support AC3/DTS natively.
However add AAC 2.0 audio into the file (MKV or MP4 container it matters not) I see judder. Kinda like when you have 23.976FPS playing on a 50Hz PAL CRT.
I have tried muxing at various framerates and interestingly the judder gets faster the higher the FPS. Very odd.
I'm used to dealing with AV stuff as I use MPC-HC/ReClock/MadVR etc to my HDTV over HDMI (BTW my Panasonic G20 Plasma does not recognise the TF HDMI output. My PC monittor does however so the TF is outputting in an unsupported res/Hz for my HDTV obviously).
It's puzzling me how when the TF does not have to playback audio the video is perfect but as soon as it has to decode audio it throws a wobbly.
The other interesting thing of note is that Youtube vids at 720p and even 1080p (Big Buck Bunny for instance) play just fine. Methinks that Flash is optimized to the Tegra 2 chip whilst the inbuilt TF player (and all the other players) are not. Moboplayer, Vplayer etc are all a bit crap at it. There is one player called LittlePlayer which gives the option of hardware playback but it is no better than the inbuilt player as it does not decode AC3/DTS and it too judders when AAC audio is played.
Anyone got a clue why this is the case? I was wondering if it was a UK specific issue (would not put it past Asus to make it PAL centric) but then why would it play a 23.976FPS 720p x264 in MKV perfectly (sans audio obviously)?
Yeah I have a 720p mkv and it plays a little off with the sound but I play a higher quality move still at 720p and the sound is like a second off. And the 1080p vids I have don't play at all. What app do you use to play your videos?
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you must be doing something wrong with the muxing or the avc stream you ended up with is not extracted properly.
I encode movies with x264 (commandline), encode the audio with neroaacen(lc, cbr, 128kbit) and mux them with mp4box. The file plays perfectly with the built-in player, meridian or rockplayer in hardware decoding mode.
Most mkv TV series I can extract th evideo stream from and use it, but not all. Some use too many reference frames while encoding and the TF can't handle it.
X264 profile high, level 4.1, preset veryfast or medium. No other options except quality level ((crf 20 or 21 I use mostly).
I've tried MKVToolnix for straight muxing. A simple MKV to MP4 prog without reencoding called mkvavi2mp4. Handbrake (Used settings suggested on this forum). I've also tried some test clips from various sites. All of them judder when audio is being decoded. I am not talking about HUGE judder. I am talking about very small judder. The video is not 100% fluid. Some may not even notice it. I do because I am always messing with progs like ReClock and MadVR in order to get perfect 24p playback to an HDTV. I am also susceptible to phosphor lag, any audio sync issues and other annoyances. I am Mr Super Anal when it comes to perfect playback and have color calibrated all my displays with a colorimeter
But I digress.
If I play Big Buck Bunny 1080p in Youtube or in the default browser it plays fluid (well enough not to be annoying). Now if I rip that same Youtube clip down to my hard disk. Copy it to the TF and play it in ANY player (Moboplayer - with or without codecs packs, Rockplayer, Vplayer, Littleplayer or the inbuilt player) it will not play it without stuttering. What the hell is that all about? Flash player is better at video playback on the TF than Honeycombs implementation? Quite.
I wish I could figure out a way to load the MP4 files in Flash through the browser. I tried file://path to MP4 and it did not work.
If anyone knows a way to do that I would be interested. Maybe I should setup a web server on my PC and stream everything in Flash
P.S. If you wish I can provide you with two sample MKV's. One with audio the other without and you can directly compare the two and post your results. I see small juddering on the clip with audio muxed in every time.
The Youtube app is not using Flash. If it was, Youtube wouldn't play on the iPhone or iPad, and it most certainly wouldn't have played on Android devices before Android 2.2. If you want to see true Flash performance so far, load up Hulu and see if you can get a 480p stream to play acceptably. Edit: Since you mention the UK though, I probably shouldn't assume you're in the US. If that's the case, just load up any Flash-based video player besides Youtube. Sometimes it helps to set your user agent to Desktop, too.
The Youtube app is actually using HTML5, with videos encoded in H.264/MPEG-4 AVC and stereo AAC. The maximum bitrates supported are 5 Mbit/s and 152 kbps, respectively. You need to bear in mind too that by playing videos through the browser, the servers will recognize the device you're playing from and compress and optimize the stream accordingly. A full 1080p video at 5 Mbit/s would take forever to buffer on a tablet, so it's highly unlikely that you're getting the full quality over the network stream. Locally-stored videos, however, are free to be downloaded and played in their maximum quality, so it's understandable that you may see some stutter on large files.
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I've tried MKVToolnix for straight muxing. A simple MKV to MP4 prog without reencoding called mkvavi2mp4. Handbrake (Used settings suggested on this forum). I've also tried some test clips from various sites. All of them judder when audio is being decoded. I am not talking about HUGE judder. I am talking about very small judder. The video is not 100% fluid. Some may not even notice it. I do because I am always messing with progs like ReClock and MadVR in order to get perfect 24p playback to an HDTV. I am also susceptible to phosphor lag, any audio sync issues and other annoyances. I am Mr Super Anal when it comes to perfect playback and have color calibrated all my displays with a colorimeter
But I digress.
If I play Big Buck Bunny 1080p in Youtube or in the default browser it plays fluid (well enough not to be annoying). Now if I rip that same Youtube clip down to my hard disk. Copy it to the TF and play it in ANY player (Moboplayer - with or without codecs packs, Rockplayer, Vplayer, Littleplayer or the inbuilt player) it will not play it without stuttering. What the hell is that all about? Flash player is better at video playback on the TF than Honeycombs implementation? Quite.
I wish I could figure out a way to load the MP4 files in Flash through the browser. I tried file://path to MP4 and it did not work.
If anyone knows a way to do that I would be interested. Maybe I should setup a web server on my PC and stream everything in Flash
P.S. If you wish I can provide you with two sample MKV's. One with audio the other without and you can directly compare the two and post your results. I see small juddering on the clip with audio muxed in every time.
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Shoot them over
http://www.mediafire.com/?gp3bumw7qy9mppm
Check the panning of each. One has AAC audio the other not. Use the default inbuilt video player of the TF (Should offer if you click on the files if you have other players installed). The one without audio plays perfectly smooth on my TF. The one with audio has slight juddering.
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If I play Big Buck Bunny 1080p in Youtube or in the default browser it plays fluid (well enough not to be annoying).
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Just to clarify: You are talking about viewing youtube via the default _web_ browser, setting your user agent such that you get the desktop site and using the flash plugin to play the video? Rather then using the mobile youtube web site or using the built in youtube app?
FYI of your two clips the one without audio plays smoothly in the _default_ player and the one with audio chokes with "This video cannot be played" (This is assuming you tack ".mp4" onto the file names to fool the default media player into trying to play it)
Interesting... I just re-encoded the audio _only_ ("-vcodec copy -acodec libmp3lame" in ffmpeg) and that plays smoothly.
Now mp3 audio isn't part of the mp4 container spec so you'll only get away with it in an mkv container (its flexibility is one of the things that makes matroska difficult to parse)
Ah... the video is High profile at 3.8Mbps that pretty much on the limit of what the tegra2 can do at the moment (I'd say it over it actually) so I'd say that the addition of a complex (relative to mp3) audio track is just too much.
I bet if you re-encoded that video to baseline at the same bitrate and copied the audio stream it would play fine, its just at the max computation threshold.
sub'd... I want to see what you guys are doing, I'd really like to play at least 720p peacefully.
I've tried reencoding using Handbrake and get similar results. Jerky playback with audio. Smooth without. It's like small juddering every quarter second or so. Ignore the web playback that's already been explained that it's HTML5 and is not sending me the full 1080p stream anyhow.
In fact. If someone can send me a 720p video clip with audio that they say plays 100% smooth on their TF I could see if it's not 100% smooth here. If not (as I suspect it won't be) then it's either my TF has issues. Your eyesight is not picking it up or I am going nuts
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I've tried reencoding using Handbrake and get similar results. Jerky playback with audio. Smooth without. It's like small juddering every quarter second or so. Ignore the web playback that's already been explained that it's HTML5 and is not sending me the full 1080p stream anyhow.
In fact. If someone can send me a 720p video clip with audio that they say plays 100% smooth on their TF I could see if it's not 100% smooth here. If not (as I suspect it won't be) then it's either my TF has issues. Your eyesight is not picking it up or I am going nuts
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try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
I am using the same profile settings in handbrake (high profile) and ALL my videos are really smooth! and YES...I did have judder/stutter before. download the sample files and you can test it on your TF.
the ONLY downside is that handbrake takes a while to encode but its worth it!
hope this helps.
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While I agree that, officially, Honeycomb doesn't support the mkv container. It must be able to parse it as it does support WebM and that uses the matroska container.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6553908/with_audio_mp3.mkv
This is the same video stream but with the audio re-encoded to mp3, plays nicely for me in the default video player it I tack ".mp4" on the end to fool the player into trying to play it.
I don't stream but everything e.mote said about hinting is spot on, also you may want to look at interleaving (a feature of the muxing that MP4Box can do) is you want to stream.
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A full 1080p video at 5 Mbit/s would take forever to buffer on a tablet, so it's highly unlikely that you're getting the full quality over the network stream.
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Way too generalized. I have a Playbook and it plays 1080p Youtube in the browser flawlessly.
I played The Cape clip from the example Handbrake settings thread. The clip plays with micro judder like every other clip with sound. I am now using a Prime 1.4 rooted not the stock firmware and it still does it. It is like frame drop every half or quarter second. If you have ever seen NTSC 23.976FPS played back on a PAL 50Hz CRT TV you will know what it looks like. It is very obvious on pans.
Surely I cannot be the ONLY person who can see this??? Are your eyes really that bad?
EDIT: Tried the MP3 version you provided. Still there. You can count the judder. Tick tick tick tick... every quarter second.
EDIT2: I guess the only way to demonstrate this to you guys is by way of a video of it along with some audio prompting from me to point it out to you (excuse the d(t)icks). You will notice that the audio drops out for some reason during playback but when it does the video plays buttery smooth. No idea why the audio drops out. I was playing back the MP3 muxed version from the link above using Moboplayer but this problem - the juddering - occurs with any player I have tried. The juddering happens on every single video I have tested it on when it is decoding audio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXfdQP8BtEA
I will restate however. Yotube playback looks much smoother than playing a file from the inbuilt flash memory or SD cards.
I am having the same problem as you and I see the judder on these clips as well. I posted my issues in the encoding guide thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825&page=9
It has nothing to do with the overall bitrate rate as many of my samples are <2,000 kbps, and just like you, if I remove the AAC audio, video is silky smooth. I assume it's just a software issue that should be able to be resolved, but I guess we'll see...
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BTW, if you recoded the clip, then I suggest using better settings. The settings used are excessive. When facing a device with marginal playback, there is less tolerance for bad encodes. If you're anal about playback, then you should be equally anal about your encode settings.
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Thanks for that. But since your video judders just like every other clip that means diddly squat. I don't see why I should have to reencode every video I have in order for it to playback on the TF either. It should be able to handle 720p at least. It does play it but only plays it smoothly with no audio playback whatsoever.
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I am having the same problem as you and I see the judder on these clips as well. I posted my issues in the encoding guide thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825&page=9
It has nothing to do with the overall bitrate rate as many of my samples are <2,000 kbps, and just like you, if I remove the AAC audio, video is silky smooth. I assume it's just a software issue that should be able to be resolved, but I guess we'll see...
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Phew! Thanks for chimeing in! I am glad it's not just me. Do you live in the UK perchance? If not that would rule out any UK specific reasons.
Nope, I'm in the US. My TF is also running Prime 1.4. I've tried the "stock" kernel and the OC kernel and the problem is the same with both. I didn't think to test video before rooting and installing Prime, so I can't vouch for whether or not it happens on completely stock HC 3.1
deadman3000 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXfdQP8BtEA
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How... what...
Are you serious? I see literally no issue. Either my eyes or your camera, one of the two can't pick up this judder. And I did notice the compression in the better encode offered here (text, grappling hooks, lasers, pretty much anything like that. Not a bad result, but clearly visible)
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