T-Mobile Z3 has Terrible Bluetooth Audio Quality - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I just received my Z3 yesterday and I love everything about it except the BT audio into my 2013 BMW 3-Series (F30). It sounds way too compressed, having that "tinny" sound like it has been down-sampled to 8-bit, especially noticeable in the lower frequencies. I've also used an HTC One M8, Samsung Galaxy S4 and Apple iPhone 5 in this car and they all sound great over BT. To top it off, my car refuses to recognize the Z3 over USB, no matter what configuration I use. Upon searching, I noticed that some earlier Sony Z's seemed ot have similar BT problems but couldn't find any reliable fixes. Does anyone have any suggestions? This is a deal-breaker for me and I'd hate to send this otherwise-wonderful Z3 back.

Have you messed around with the ClearAudio+ and Dynamic Normalizer settings to see if there is a difference?

jayr04 said:
Have you messed around with the ClearAudio+ and Dynamic Normalizer settings to see if there is a difference?
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Yes, I've fooled with all the audio settings. Done the factory reset too. I even tried the app used to fix the Z1 bluetooth media issue to no avail. I happen to have a NAD Viso 1 on the way and will test with that as well. Right now, however, I'm leaning towards ditching this Z3 and keeping the M8. :/

Mashuri said:
It sounds way too compressed, having that "tinny" sound like it has been down-sampled to 8-bit, especially noticeable in the lower frequencies.
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Smells like that two devices won't share a A2DP connection.
I never experienced any problems with that, but it might be worthy to have a look at your car stereo's manual, seek for the keywords "A2DP" and "aptX".
Maybe your stereo is regarded as an aptX device by the Z3, but some problems prevent establishing an aptX connection, so there's a fallback to plain BT audio, which delivers "phone quality" (and below). Your stereo's manual should point you to some methods for forcing your stereo to use aptX; hopefully.

Chefproll said:
Smells like that two devices won't share a A2DP connection.
I never experienced any problems with that, but it might be worthy to have a look at your car stereo's manual, seek for the keywords "A2DP" and "aptX".
Maybe your stereo is regarded as an aptX device by the Z3, but some problems prevent establishing an aptX connection, so there's a fallback to plain BT audio, which delivers "phone quality" (and below). Your stereo's manual should point you to some methods for forcing your stereo to use aptX; hopefully.
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It may indeed be some compatibility issue with my car. My NAD should arrive this Monday or Tuesday and I'll do another test. Even if it is a compatibility issue, I need to have quality tunes in my car.

Considering you have 2013 BMW it's very outdated by now, time to upgrade the car to support latest technologies on your phone

dkreviews said:
Considering you have 2013 BMW it's very outdated by now, time to upgrade the car to support latest technologies on your phone
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lol, anyway do other phones work fine?

abhinav.tella said:
lol, anyway do other phones work fine?
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Quote from my OP:
I've also used an HTC One M8, Samsung Galaxy S4 and Apple iPhone 5 in this car and they all sound great over BT.
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I've also used an HTC One M8, Samsung Galaxy S4 and Apple iPhone 5 in this car and they all sound great over BT.
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Exactly my point, old stuff works fine with old car

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Exactly my point, old stuff works fine with old car
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Which is why it's important to have backward compatibility. If I have to choose between trading in my car or my phone, the Sony is out.

You know this is really funny, because I have the complete opposite experience! I am coming from an M8 and had massive issues with Bluetooth disconnecting for no reason in my 2013 Lexus, but the Z3 seems to be performing better, with more sound in the lower frequencies!

I just upgraded today from an iphone 5 and I feel like my audio quality has improved. Using a sony headunit though and it has extensive EQ/compatibility with the phone

Z3 is on its way back to T-Mobile. Bummer.

Mine pairs fine with my belkin N9 bluetooth adapter, and sounds fine. At first the headphone cable was a bit loose and it sounded like you described, but some fidgeting got it sounding great. Sorry the BMW didn't like your phone!

Interesting, because I've always thought the opposite. There's a HUGE difference playing spotify over the stereo of my Focus ST compared to my old Nexus 4. It is borderline CD quality for me.

Sounds spectacular in my car and connects like a dream. I never had a Samsung actually connect without fiddling with it every so glad time.

I had some issues with my E-class Merc , it just didn't want to play well with the Z3 but was fine with my Samsung S5.
I contemplated upgrading the car, then I came to my senses lol.
I ended up buying the Sony Bluetooth receiver supports AptX, which sounds so much better then plain old A2DP. Seems to work very well so far.
Heres a link
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en...bluetooth-music-receiver-bm10/specifications/
Its slightly bigger then a small matchbox.
Paul

Sounds absolutely brilliant on my modest Ranault Captur as well. In fact sounds much better than my previous M8 by a massive ammount.

Also have the opposite, BT is way nicer than my old S4. Like richer or something.

At the last minute, I yanked the UPS box containing my Z3 from my company's Out Box and decided to keep it. F&@# it. This thing is too beautiful and performs great with everything else. I'll just connect it to my car via 1/8" jack and deal with the slight inconvenience.
EDIT: FYI, I connected the Z3 to my Viso 1 via APT-X and it sounded fantastic. On a side note, I can't recommend the Viso-1 more highly. It blows even the B&W Zeppelin out of the water when it comes to sound quality and bass extension. The old models with the iPod docks (that fully support APT-X) are being blown out for $250. Get yourself one! NAD Viso 1 at Amazon

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[Q] Why people prefer wired headphones vs. Stereo Bluetooth?

There are a lot of topics in the forum about people having trouble finding compatible headphones to work for music and "remote" control the phone playback.
the Bluetooth A2DP works perfectly fine in SGS for both Car Receivers and Stereo headset, and it switch transparently between music to phone calls and back without a glitch.
(i can't say the same for WM phones, another reason why i left WM platform, PalmOS was good, but is no longer produced)
There are lots of excellent Stereo BT headphones in the market now, both Studio like or simple 1 ear type, whatever ticks your fancy, the studio type offers the best audio quality even over BT.
yes it might consume more battery, but battery replacements are very inexpensive. (see accessories section)
I've not looked back to use a wired headphones since BT Stereo was invented, i used to have wired headphones for breakfast, it was a mass murder of headphones every time you get in the bus or subway, i've saved a lot of money since i moved to BT, so it's very surprising to still see people trying to work out the wiring problems with the headsets
I've been there before, every time i switched to a new phone, i needed to find another adapter to convert this to that, so that i can do something as simple as answer the phone on the headset, it was a major PITA.
so it'll be interesting to hear your side of the story to prefer wire over BT (other than "saving" battery and "better sound quality")
I find the bluetooth headsets to be kind of douchie personally. I also don't like the idea of keeping a radio transmitter attached to my head for extended periods (same goes for stereo bluetooth). Whilst I don't particularly believe in the freaks who claim they are radio sensitive, we don't really have any way of knowing how safe they are.
Extra convenience perhaps? Not for general usage. I work unpacking boxes all night and I use hardwired headphones, and it has never gotten in the way (so why bother coughing up a lot of extra money for a technology with potentially worse sound quality and negligible benefits).
IT also chews through battery as you mentioned, but i'm also learning to fly. You never know when you regret sucking up the battery earlier in the day for a technology whose only benefit is no cord.
There are benefits for Bluetooth, such as integrating with a car stereo, some flight headsets have bt built in, transferring files and connecting to special adapters which normally would need USB (such as NMEA GPS or OBD2 devices). But realistically, replacing hardwired headphones with bluetooth seems to be a case of doing so because some people think it gives them an identity. There are very few I believe who actually benefit. But that's only an opinion....
More battery consumption on both the phone and the headset. Which means more cost and more responsibility (buying or keeping batteries charged). Worse sound quality is present with bt than what you'll get in high end headphones, I am always using either high end buds or noise cancelling headsets.
I find the bt thing a bit like nutrasweet, it might sound like a good idea, I just don't want to touch the stuff.
I'd have to buy a stereo Bluetooth headset, as I don't own one, and then I'd have to remember to keep it charged and carry it with me.
I'm sure it would work okay, but I don't have a problem with a wired headset, so a Bluetooth one would only really cost money and make me liable to forget to charge it.
Interesting post AllGamer. Care to point me with some recommendations on good stereo bluetooth headphones?
i replied back to some other topic with that info in the accessories section, i'll need to dig it out
here is the topic i was posting on the reviews
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7611857&postcount=4
+1 vote for Motorola HT820, it is simply the VERY BEST! of them all; in funtionality, ease of use, sound purity, and comfy level.
other ones i've and still using but don't like are:
Jabra BT8010 (good but always breaks the earloop)
Sony HBH-DS980 (too much wire, it defeats the purpose of bluetooth)
Sony DRBT21G (pales in comparison to Moto HT820, but it's passable, not comfy though)
BlueTake BT420Rx (Gen1 bluetooth, no A2DP, limited features, very comfy, good sound, but it looks like princess leia specially if you have the white version)
Plantronics Voyager 855 (pure garbage, no A2DP)
Motorola S9 (dies easily with sweat dripped into the device, bad design, it's a total failure compare to its big brother HT820)
my top 2 choices for sound are:
HT820
BT420Rx
my top choice for formar work/fun mix
BT8010
unfortunately the BT8010 is very prone at breaking the earloop even with careful use, i went through 3 sets of it already.
luckily enough when you buy these they come in pairs with the stereo side, so i always use the stereo side of the earloop to replace the main headset, as i seldomly use the stereo side of the headset, i mostly just use the single side of it.
for real stereo i'll much prefer to use the HT820
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and some related one for car
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726403&highlight=bluetooth
I have a Jabra BT8010 and it's an amazing piece of hardware. Excellent battery life, rich bass, equalizer, comfortable and great sound quality.
In my opinion, BT headsets are a convenience, and I sincerely disagree with being related with "douchebaggery" or "looking for an identity".
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Hi,
Used the Sony Ericsson HBH-IS800's before when I had a SE phone and they work a treat on the Galaxy S too. There are no controls, but I like to use the phone as the "remote" which is fine.
I find them convenient for listening to music on the tube when packed in and shouldering a bag. Sounds good enough to me, though I am not an audiophile.
BTW: I noticed on the 2.2 test frimware JP3 that the eq effects worked across BT unlike current version that says you need to plug in headphones.
In terms of battery I manage approx 3 hours a day which does my commute to and from work. They also work quite good with Galaxy S when watching videos too.
Cheers,
well for the galaxy s its simple ... the 5.1 audio enhancement says enough for u to use wired.
I got 3 sony stereo bt headsets and the only reason why i use it is for the convenience during commute. I dont want my phone getting tangled up somewhere in the metro and end up falling out being damaged or lost because of my headphone cord.
I feel much safer knowing its deep in my pocket without fear of it accidentally slipping out.
But when I am at work by my desk i use wired ... saves battery as well.
Arkymedes said:
In my opinion, BT headsets are a convenience
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Explain convenient.. What exactly is so convenient for them over normal headphones, which deliver better quality sound for cheaper? There are some people who do get benefits by using them (at work), where they need to free their hands and cant really have cables swinging around, such as computer technicians, but most people seem to use them whilst they are simply walking around..
quality wired headphones cost as much, if not more than a stereo bluetooth headset.
for example Sennheiser HD 448 (average $100)
those $30 ones just doesn't cut it, you need the base, the sub.
but if you go up the next level Audio-Technica ATH-M50 (average $150)
and if you go higher Sennheiser HD 800
but it's too big for my head, and wallet too (almost $1500)
in the past i broke a lot of those $100 entry level headphones
another down side of using headphones, you can't talk/answer the phone with them, you have to unplug, remove the headphones then talk.
with bluetooth it is just a simple click of a button in the ear
Using a sony DR-BT21G. Loving it so far. Only downside is the massive charger. Kinda wish it can run on usb charger instead. It only needs 3V after all.
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another down side of using headphones, you can't talk/answer the phone with them, you have to unplug, remove the headphones then talk.
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Expect mic adapters to be released with a 3.5mm jack. That's how sony ericsson did it..
You can get quality for cheap, if you know where to look...
andrewluecke said:
Explain convenient.. What exactly is so convenient for them over normal headphones, which deliver better quality sound for cheaper? There are some people who do get benefits by using them (at work), where they need to free their hands and cant really have cables swinging around, such as computer technicians, but most people seem to use them whilst they are simply walking around..
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You answered your own question. In MY case, is convenient and a personal thing. I absolute HATE cables of all sorts. I have a wireless headset in my PC, wireless KB and mouse and use a wireless printer. I also use a wireless home theater at home (ok, not 100% wireless but it's 2 cables less...)
Everything that I can do to have wireless I do because it's convenient. It's more organized and as I said before, a personal choice.
I agree that wired headphones AT THE MOMENT offer better sound quality for the price, but since I'm not an audiophile, I'm more then happy with what I have now.
The convenience is the easy to setup, the easy access and safety. As some people pointed before, it's very common for the wires to entangle somewhere in your clothes or other things and you risk damaging both your hedphones breaking the cable or even pulling away your phone and losing/breaking it.
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You answered your own question. In MY case, is convenient and a personal thing. I absolute HATE cables of all sorts. I have a wireless headset in my PC, wireless KB and mouse and use a wireless printer. I also use a wireless home theater at home (ok, not 100% wireless but it's 2 cables less...)
I agree that wired headphones AT THE MOMENT offer better sound quality for the price, but since I'm not an audiophile, I'm more then happy with what I have now.
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the only cable i have in my Wireless Home theater is the long arse 1080p HDMI cable going from the PC Receiver to the projector
if and when they come out with a good wireless 1080p HDMI i'll definitely have everything wireless.
for audiophile or not, i'll recommend the Sony DRBT50
as an extension of what i already listed before, for sports fan the Samsung SBH500 is better suited for the task
those 2 are excellent alternative if you can't find the Motorola HT820
the Sony DRBT50 has better bass/base than the moto ht820
there is one that is 100% audiophile but it lacks the handsfree profile for phone calls
it's the Sennheiser PX210BT, that one is guaranteed to sound like the regular wired Sennheiser headphones
I wish I could use my BT headphones. So far I've tried S9-HD, HBH-IS800 and Nokia BH-504 and all of them have horrible sound quality with SGS.
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I wish I could use my BT headphones. So far I've tried S9-HD, HBH-IS800 and Nokia BH-504 and all of them have horrible sound quality with SGS.
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I have the hbh ds 205 and it sounds awesome.
I decided to get a new version of it and purchased the sony mw600 and it sounds awesome. Especially now that froyo was released we could use the 5.1 sound enhancement with our bluetooth devices.
One reason why I don't use my bluey headset is the damn thing blinks a blue led all the time . Its like a signal for everyone to look at me. I've taken a marker and coloured it black a few times. Another reason is I tend to forget to recharge the thing as it only has about 12hours play time.
I have a DS980 an MW600 both from Sony Ericsson. I seldom use them now.
I'm not that satisfied with the sound quality of the DS980 & the earphone cannot be replaced.
For the MW600 the short earphone that came with the device also does not sound great, so when I use my personal earphone the sound is great buy the cable will be very long...
I just have been through myself a headphone buying hassle, and had to send back 2 BT sets to refund due poor music quality. The first was Jabra Halo for around £60. It looks cool, and the most comfortable headset I've ever used, but the sound quality is just not there. It's clear, okay, but it's also quiet, and has absulutely no noticable bass.
Ordered a Nokia BH 504, which is a £10 cheaper, but sound quality is almost the same. Still quiet(not usable in traffic), still no bass, maybe a bit more clarity compare to Jabra. Sent back for refund as well.
Next one was the previously mentioned Motorola HT820(got the geniune one), it cost way less then it's friends(£25), and has much better sound! Maybe it's not as clear as the rest, but definetely has better bass, and louder as well. Through Pc it's somehow still not the best! The range is fine(just like others), the battery life is incredible(got it for 2 weeks, use it every day, but haven't charged yet). The mic is also good via phone, tho i had problems via pc skype, and msn call. It's not as comfortable as the previously mentioned ones, you can't really lay down with this thing on your head, and also after 30 min use, it cuts the top of my ears(big ears maybe?). Still not the best quality I've ever had, but definetely worth £25!

[Q] will Sony Ericsson Bluetooth Stereo Headset MW600 works with DHD?

hi folks,
as the title asks will Sony Ericsson Bluetooth Stereo Headset MW600 works with the DHD?
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/2810/sony-ericsson-bluetooth-stereo-headset-mw600-
Define "works"...
Will you get track names? Nope.
Will you be able to use it for music and handsfree? Yes.
I have an mw600 and its pretty awesome, works very well. Much simpler to pair than most bluetooth devices ive used in the past, and can pair with 3 things, so i use it for my laptop and my phone.
Only negative point is the clip really, it doesnt open quite as wide as i would like, and the spring isnt very strong (it isnt weak though).
Oh, and the "touch sensitive" volume control is utterly pointless! A rocker switch would have been better.
Once all is said and done though, i paid £40 for mine and im still very happy with it so for £30 you cant really go wrong.
It doesnt seem to affect battery life in any appreciable way and the sound quality was indistinguishable from the 3.5mm jack. (On an x10)
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Define "works"...
Will you get track names? Nope.
Will you be able to use it for music and handsfree? Yes.
I have an mw600 and its pretty awesome, works very well. Much simpler to pair than most bluetooth devices ive used in the past, and can pair with 3 things, so i use it for my laptop and my phone.
Only negative point is the clip really, it doesnt open quite as wide as i would like, and the spring isnt very strong (it isnt weak though).
Oh, and the "touch sensitive" volume control is utterly pointless! A rocker switch would have been better.
Once all is said and done though, i paid £40 for mine and im still very happy with it so for £30 you cant really go wrong.
It doesnt seem to affect battery life in any appreciable way and the sound quality was indistinguishable from the 3.5mm jack. (On an x10)
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thank you for the amazing response, you really covered everything i want
i'm going to order it as soon as see another accessories i need for the DHD so i pay shipping once
thnx again
google listen and the mw600
Does it control google listen?
JamesBarnes said:
Define "works"...
Will you get track names? Nope.
Will you be able to use it for music and handsfree? Yes.
I have an mw600 and its pretty awesome, works very well. Much simpler to pair than most bluetooth devices ive used in the past, and can pair with 3 things, so i use it for my laptop and my phone.
Only negative point is the clip really, it doesnt open quite as wide as i would like, and the spring isnt very strong (it isnt weak though).
Oh, and the "touch sensitive" volume control is utterly pointless! A rocker switch would have been better.
Once all is said and done though, i paid £40 for mine and im still very happy with it so for £30 you cant really go wrong.
It doesnt seem to affect battery life in any appreciable way and the sound quality was indistinguishable from the 3.5mm jack. (On an x10)
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I got the headset and it works perfectly with the DHD, even better sound quality than with my old Desire. I recommend the MW600, they are not much expensive, they have great battery, same microUSB connection and works really great with DHD
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hi folks,
as the title asks will Sony Ericsson Bluetooth Stereo Headset MW600 works with the DHD?
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/2810/sony-ericsson-bluetooth-stereo-headset-mw600-
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I guess you missed this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9483692#post9483692
I agree the sound quality does seem a little better than the DHD
I might buy some of these, it might be a really bad question but I need clarification.
If i buy these they will work through Bluetooth with my DHD..... But will it not deteriate the already poor battery on the DHD? are they work getting or will I be having to constantly charge my phone or not listen to music at times to save the battery?
So in simple terms? How is the battery affected with the Bluetooth?
The MW600's SQ is very good for a BT device. I own one of these too.
Tried this with my DHD yesterday.
Pairing was with no problem and I could listen and watch the song titles normally.
Only thing didnt work was to see the caller's name.Is this working for U?
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Tried this with my DHD yesterday.
Pairing was with no problem and I could listen and watch the song titles normally.
Only thing didnt work was to see the caller's name.Is this working for U?
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I can see the caller but not the song titles
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I can see the caller but not the song titles
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I guess you have the stock Rom?
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Bluetooth Stereo Headset

Hi, I was wondering if any of you guys use a bluetooth stereo headset for your G2's because I've been looking for a certain kind. I'm looking for one that is wireless(duh) and it connected by the buds with a wire that's small and similar to the one that came with our phones. So pretty much our stock headphones, just without the cord connecting to the phone. I saw one the other day on a website but I can't find it at all.
Thanks for your time
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Check out the Sony's MW600, it does the job quite well for me
It has got some tiny limitations, but its really good, for its price
Not sure if how it will perform with G2, but on DZ is soooooooo cool
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I have had great success with Altec Lansing Backbeat 903 and they can be had fairly cheaply. While mine are 1+ years old, Plantronics offers an updated BackBeat 903+. Altec Lansing is owned by Plantronics or vice versa.
gottago said:
I have had great success with Altec Lansing Backbeat 903 and they can be had fairly cheaply. While mine are 1+ years old, Plantronics offers an updated BackBeat 903+. Altec Lansing is owned by Plantronics or vice versa.
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I second that recommendation. Those are great headphones especially for working out. If you don't really need bluetooth I've gone to the zagg smartbuds after getting tired of charging my backbeats and my phone from constant Bluetooth use. These just stay around my neck all day and offer everything the backbeats do, just not wireless and better sound quality.
I'm waiting on Bluetooth 3.0 to really make Bluetooth headphones really take off, with better performance overall (sound quality, outdoor performance, and 3.0 is a higher number than 2.1 duh). Have trouble at times outdoors (nothing to bounce off of). So my recommendation is the backbeats or the Cardozo s2's I believe if you aren't married to that form factor.
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dont get the zagg smartbuds.... they are a ripoff. just like the rest of their products.
the best buds under $100 are the klipsch image s4's
I use Motorola s305
Got em off of amazon for less that $35 and they are very nice...
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I actually use a Sony Bluetooth unit that has a standard 1/8" jack and plug my Shure's into that. The little controllers are hard to find now as everyone seems to want to bundle their earphones in with them.
verkion
I just found this and it looks really nice, not so sure about the clip though, but I can adapt. It meets the requirements I was looking for. The bluetooth is actually in the small device and the headphones are interchangeable with any one with a 3.5mm jack. I hope that it would come with its own set of headphones because they look really short and that's what I'm looking for. I don't want the hassle of having to untangle headphones after every usage, so I think this might be what I'm looking for. Has anybody else tried this before? I also wonder if it's completely compatible with Android.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headset/dp/B003DQ1DCM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Anartic said:
I just found this and it looks really nice, not so sure about the clip though, but I can adapt. It meets the requirements I was looking for. The bluetooth is actually in the small device and the headphones are interchangeable with any one with a 3.5mm jack. I hope that it would come with its own set of headphones because they look really short and that's what I'm looking for. I don't want the hassle of having to untangle headphones after every usage, so I think this might be what I'm looking for. Has anybody else tried this before? I also wonder if it's completely compatible with Android.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headset/dp/B003DQ1DCM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
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These are the MW600 that Wolek76 is talking about in his post above. They are known to work with the Desire Z though some functionality like trackId is not working. I should be getting these for my Desire Z today/tomorrow.
I have been to frys electronics and best buy, and have bought every single one they offer at least once.
Ive tryed at least 20+ and every single one cuts off very often if I am jogging and the phone is in my side pocket.
If anyone has any suggestions be my guest and lmk please haha. Maybe something that makes you hold your phone higher or closer to your ears so the bluetooth connection doesnt break so often.
wolek76 said:
Check out the Sony's MW600, it does the job quite well for me
It has got some tiny limitations, but its really good, for its price
Not sure if how it will perform with G2, but on DZ is soooooooo cool
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Anartic said:
I just found this and it looks really nice, not so sure about the clip though, but I can adapt. It meets the requirements I was looking for. The bluetooth is actually in the small device and the headphones are interchangeable with any one with a 3.5mm jack. I hope that it would come with its own set of headphones because they look really short and that's what I'm looking for. I don't want the hassle of having to untangle headphones after every usage, so I think this might be what I'm looking for. Has anybody else tried this before? I also wonder if it's completely compatible with Android.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headset/dp/B003DQ1DCM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
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Yes these are the MW600 which wolek76 recommends, and so do I. Been using them with my Nexus One and now Galaxy S, and love them. The ear buds are very comfortable and have great sound quality, and if you still dont like em you can use any 3.5mm headphones with the unit. You can save 3 devices to use the Bluetooth with (either phone OR your BT-enabled laptop), and switch between them with press of a button. Good battery life and and the controls work with alternative Android music applications like Poweramp as well as Google Listen.
The unit did get stuck on me 3-4 times during my 6-7 months of use, by stuck I mean nothing works and you have to wait till the battery drains and it shuts itself off lol. Its ridiculous that this thing doesnt have a Reset button.
Highly recommend this headset, and cant wait to start using it with my G2 when it arrives next week.
mashed_ash said:
These are the MW600 that Wolek76 is talking about in his post above. They are known to work with the Desire Z though some functionality like trackId is not working. I should be getting these for my Desire Z today/tomorrow.
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grech said:
Yes these are the MW600 which wolek76 recommends, and so do I. Been using them with my Nexus One and now Galaxy S, and love them. The ear buds are very comfortable and have great sound quality, and if you still dont like em you can use any 3.5mm headphones with the unit. You can save 3 devices to use the Bluetooth with (either phone OR your BT-enabled laptop), and switch between them with press of a button. Good battery life and and the controls work with alternative Android music applications like Poweramp as well as Google Listen.
The unit did get stuck on me 3-4 times during my 6-7 months of use, by stuck I mean nothing works and you have to wait till the battery drains and it shuts itself off lol. Its ridiculous that this thing doesnt have a Reset button.
Highly recommend this headset, and cant wait to start using it with my G2 when it arrives next week.
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Yeah, didn't see his post, but yeah it looks really nice and I hope to buy it sometime before the year is over, just gotta stop spending so much on Christmas presents
hello everyone
just thought I'd put a link to another thread (used to be Desire Z only, before the merge), but thats where I've left the most information about this bluetooth stuff
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831850&page=2
see if you find the info you need
if you need more just ask
I will answer every question - provided I now the answer/I have time
regards
Another happy MW600 user
Hi all,
Just wanted to second wolek76's recommendation for the MW600. I've been using them with my Desire Z.
The performance of the bluetooth headset is excellent - especially you you replace the supplied earphones with your own favourites (Denon AH-751s for me )
Only downsides:
No contact name on display (though the callers phone number is displayed)
No track name on display
Other than that they are excellent.
Cheers
Ash
wolek76 said:
hello everyone
just thought I'd put a link to another thread (used to be Desire Z only, before the merge), but thats where I've left the most information about this bluetooth stuff
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831850&page=2
see if you find the info you need
if you need more just ask
I will answer every question - provided I now the answer/I have time
regards
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mashed_ash said:
Hi all,
Just wanted to second wolek76's recommendation for the MW600. I've been using them with my Desire Z.
The performance of the bluetooth headset is excellent - especially you you replace the supplied earphones with your own favourites (Denon AH-751s for me )
Only downsides:
No contact name on display (though the callers phone number is displayed)
No track name on display
Other than that they are excellent.
Cheers
Ash
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Have you guys used the headphones that came with the bluetooth set? Is the quality of it good, or does it not come with short corded headphones?
Merry xmass everyone
Yes, these come with in-ear buds with three different rubber sizes. Headphones themselves are on a short lead and asymmetric (so that the cable for one ear is shorter, and the other one goes behind the neck)
As someone mentioned earlier, these are removable, so you can use any earfones u wish.
Quality of sound is fine for me, although I'm no expert on that matter....
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Merry xmass everyone
Yes, these come with in-ear buds with three different rubber sizes. Headphones themselves are on a short lead and asymmetric (so that the cable for one ear is shorter, and the other one goes behind the neck)
As someone mentioned earlier, these are removable, so you can use any earfones u wish.
Quality of sound is fine for me, although I'm no expert on that matter....
sent from htc desire Z
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How would you say the headphones that come with the mw600 compare to the one that comes with the desire z? Better?
Definately better!!!
Original htc ones dont stay in my ears whatsoever. Maybe I got weird ears but never managed to to get any htc earphones make stay in my ears (s740, touchpro2, DZ).
the SE ones actually go 'into' your ear blocking any external noise. Im very happy with that solution, but I know it isnt to everybodys taste/preference.
btw. I got MW600 for my sister...
she's got SE X10 and wanted a FM radio....
will check if these work any better with Android on SE fone (track ID, caller ID)
merry x-mass
Well, even though mw600 and X10 are made by same manufacturer, there is still no caller ID, and no track ID.
This must be definitely android issue then.
Just hope that ginger update with its new 'BlueZ' will help, when it finally lands in our Desires...
Fingers crossed
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Bluetooth headphones

Hello people...
Just thought I'd share.
I bought a pair of Sandstrom bluetooth headphones today from PC World. They were only £30, so I figured that wasn't much of a punt.
I already have a good pair of wired headphones, but constantly opening the flap on the phone annoys me - and is an avenue for dust to enter the chassis.
Anyway... I wasn't expecting much, but I have to say I'm impressed! - The sound quality isn't quite as good as my wired set, but I'm more than happy with the sound for listening to music while out and about (which is when I'm more concerned having the flap open in my pocket).
They also have a built in mic, so you can take calls. And there are music controls.
Have to say - £30 well spent.
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Hello people...
Just thought I'd share.
I bought a pair of Sandstrom bluetooth headphones today from PC World. They were only £30, so I figured that wasn't much of a punt.
I already have a good pair of wired headphones, but constantly opening the flap on the phone annoys me - and is an avenue for dust to enter the chassis.
Anyway... I wasn't expecting much, but I have to say I'm impressed! - The sound quality isn't quite as good as my wired set, but I'm more than happy with the sound for listening to music while out and about (which is when I'm more concerned having the flap open in my pocket).
They also have a built in mic, so you can take calls. And there are music controls.
Have to say - £30 well spent.
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you should have go on the new sony SBH20 wireless headphones mate and you will have no regrets
adamsweeting said:
Hello people...
Just thought I'd share.
I bought a pair of Sandstrom bluetooth headphones today from PC World. They were only £30, so I figured that wasn't much of a punt.
I already have a good pair of wired headphones, but constantly opening the flap on the phone annoys me - and is an avenue for dust to enter the chassis.
Anyway... I wasn't expecting much, but I have to say I'm impressed! - The sound quality isn't quite as good as my wired set, but I'm more than happy with the sound for listening to music while out and about (which is when I'm more concerned having the flap open in my pocket).
They also have a built in mic, so you can take calls. And there are music controls.
Have to say - £30 well spent.
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My recommend is Sony SBH20 or Sony MW600S. Currently I'm using MW1 and happy with it. But, in your case, I prefer MW600s, it has display so you'll easily find the song you wanna hear.
MW600s comes with 170 mah battery, bluetooth core ver 2.1
SBH20 comes with 110 mah battery, bluetooth core v3.0
Maybe SBH20 provide a better battery management than MW600s,
how much it cost in india???? any idea..??
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how much it cost in india???? any idea..??
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Hw much costs what?
Hey guys,
Intro: Since our phone is water-resistant and pulling these claps to plug the headphones in 10 times per day is annoying, I am finally ready to consider a bluetooth solution with a mic (which I still do not really trust, but let's give it a shot!). I would like thus to revive this thread, by sharing my thoughts on the subject.
I would strongly advice to check these threads first :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2273429&highlight=bluetooth
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229347&highlight=bluetooth - Would really love Tom Fagerland to come back and give us an update
My expectations: First, I would like to explain what do I need. In this way, we are not going to argue about a detail when we actually look for different things. You can thus point-out how different your needs are and therefore would like a different headset.
quality: I need a decent one, no more. While on the go, I mostly listen audio books through Ambling Book Player. The music is for home on normal speakers.That's been said, NO MUTANTS CUTS ALLOWED.
in-ear: those are the smallest ones and I really need to be able to put the headphones in a small pocket.
headset battery: I live and sleep with my headphones, I thus need something around 8h of autonomy, (This is why I have not considered bluetooth before, remember the 3h of autonomy max?)
phone battery drain: the use of of Bluetooth headset should not make our XZ deplete in an hour. I'm not a specialist but isn't it strongly linked with BT technology? The newer the better? So for us, BT 3.0 is better than 2.0?
full compatibility with XZ : I would like it to work well with our particular phone. Obviously. I do not plan to change phone for couple of years, so no matter the work with other devices. More, I would hardly bear some functions of the headset which are not working with XZ. Would feel like a waste.
Price: I am not ready to give more than 100 bucks.
Display : Not required. Good if there is one, but not critical
Radio : No need
Sd-card : No need
In addition : general comfort and build quality
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Eliminated ones :
LG Tone hbs-700 : does not seem confortable enough, does not fit in a pocket
Samsung BHS3000 : 6 hours autonomy, clip easy to break
Jaybird Bluebuds X: 169$!!! Does it have a mic anyway?
Novero Rockway: 5.5 hours autonomy
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Main candidates:
Sony SBH20 : seems good overall, but has only 6 hours of autonomy. Confirm?
Sony MW600 and MW600s: First, what is the difference between those two? It seems that they were firstly made for phones likes SE k800i (before android) and not all the functions work properly on android phones. True story?
Sony SBH50 : when to expect the release? What would be the price you think? Something special in comparison with MW1?
Sony MW1: seems a very good one in theory, but has apparently to many possible bugs and dysfunctions. I would give it a try, but I want to be able to give it back if too many bugs happen to occur. I am currently in Belgium and can't find any place to buy it here, even online on sony website!!! If bought abroad on ebay for example I fear that giving it back will be impossible/too complicated
What have I forgot?
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I have noticed something interesting. On the sony website, both the SBH20 and SBH50 are advertised in this way : "Go great with : Xperia Z", while XZ is not among perfect partners of MW1. I understand that marketing can sometimes be a strange thing, but isn't there a REAL reason for that?
Proof :
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/stereo-bluetooth-headset-sbh20/
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en...-bluetooth-headset-sbh50/specifications/#tabs
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/smart-wireless-headset-pro/specifications/
What do you thing? Any Advice?
I just got a Nokia bh-221 yesterday, I just thought the same, it will be annoying to have to open the flaps every time.
The reason I went to Nokia was because I'm happy with the play 360 speakers.
This headset has a screen, but it just displays the phone number when someone is calling (or the person's name if it is in your contacts) and the battery status.
The quality is good, it has 7h of battery life (haven't been able to test it yet), it comes with a nice decent headphones but you can use every headphone you want.
It also has NFC so you can connect faster, but after the first connection, just make sure the BT on your phone is on before you turn the headset on.
The volume is a bit low, but I think it's a problem with the Z, need to test with the sound addons after rooting.
I noticed a delay in audio when playing video, I will test it tomorrow with a HTC 8X, to see if I get the same latency.
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Luinwethion said:
I just got a Nokia bh-221 yesterday, I just thought the same, it will be annoying to have to open the flaps every time.
The reason I went to Nokia was because I'm happy with the play 360 speakers.
This headset has a screen, but it just displays the phone number when someone is calling (or the person's name if it is in your contacts) and the battery status.
The quality is good, it has 7h of battery life (haven't been able to test it yet), it comes with a nice decent headphones but you can use every headphone you want.
It also has NFC so you can connect faster, but after the first connection, just make sure the BT on your phone is on before you turn the headset on.
The volume is a bit low, but I think it's a problem with the Z, need to test with the sound addons after rooting.
I noticed a delay in audio when playing video, I will test it tomorrow with a HTC 8X, to see if I get the same latency.
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Thanks for sharing, waiting for the test results.
Just to say, these kind of problems (delays, limited screen functions...) are the ones making me reluctant towards buying other than Sony's headphones. Even though it can be a super set on its own, I'm almost sure to find some partial compatibility or even dysfunctions.
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Thanks for sharing, waiting for the test results.
Just to say, these kind of problems (delays, limited screen functions...) are the ones making me reluctant towards buying other than Sony's headphones. Even though it can be a super set on its own, I'm almost sure to find some partial compatibility or even dysfunctions.
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The screen functions is not a problem, is just a Nokia feature, not showing the music name...
The lags, i just tested on my 8X and I see no lag at all... I had the same problems with another philips BT headset, I think it may be an Android problem... What other OS does is just delay the video also, so both audio and video will stay in sync.
I searched for solutions, and found a lot of people with this problem, but no solution till now.
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The screen functions is not a problem, is just a Nokia feature, not showing the music name...
The lags, i just tested on my 8X and I see no lag at all... I had the same problems with another philips BT headset, I think it may be an Android problem... What other OS does is just delay the video also, so both audio and video will stay in sync.
I searched for solutions, and found a lot of people with this problem, but no solution till now.
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Sorry for you.
The other people have this problem with exactly the same headset as yours? or with android in general?
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Sorry for you.
The other people have this problem with exactly the same headset as yours? or with android in general?
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No, there are different people with different phones and headset with the same problem... I think the only (android) device i had where BT audio has synced with the video was the Galaxy Nexus.
Choose Headset.
If you want the best available sound quality and a good MIC and the most reliable accessories then stay between MW600 and MW1. i had both of them.
for you both are GREAT! but my MW600 did a lot of restarts all the time! i couldn't update it so i had to get used to it. i don't know about the latest one but before 5 years that's was my experience. my opinion...go get the MW1 with closed eyes :silly:
video from another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23truXwiAYo
hackos said:
If you want the best available sound quality and a good MIC and the most reliable accessories then stay between MW600 and MW1. i had both of them.
for you both are GREAT! but my MW600 did a lot of restarts all the time! i couldn't update it so i had to get used to it. i don't know about the latest one but before 5 years that's was my experience. my opinion...go get the MW1 with closed eyes :silly:
video from another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23truXwiAYo
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Thanks, will probably try a WM1. Just wondering if waiting till SBH-50 wouldn't be wiser...
Anyway,
I can't find any retailer selling this in Belgium. Will have to buy it on amazon. Does someone know if it is easy to return the item? I want to try it first. If it's ok I keep it, if not (as for sooooo many users after some research) I want to be able to get my money back.
SuperTraxer said:
Thanks, will probably try a WM1. Just wondering if waiting till SBH-50 wouldn't be wiser...
Anyway,
I can't find any retailer selling this in Belgium. Will have to buy it on amazon. Does someone know if it is easy to return the item? I want to try it first. If it's ok I keep it, if not (as for sooooo many users after some research) I want to be able to get my money back.
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I think Amazon is our only option.
I've compared the stats from the sbh-50 and the mw1 and it seems that the mw1 will still be better. Guess I'll be waiting for the mw2 if/whenever that comes out.
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PAUL ubleFar
SBH20 user, really nice sound alaikit,
SuperTraxer said:
Thanks, will probably try a WM1. Just wondering if waiting till SBH-50 wouldn't be wiser...
Anyway,
I can't find any retailer selling this in Belgium. Will have to buy it on amazon. Does someone know if it is easy to return the item? I want to try it first. If it's ok I keep it, if not (as for sooooo many users after some research) I want to be able to get my money back.
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Hello, man! Did you get your MW1? How is it doing nowadays? I am about to buy two units for my brother and me, and would not want a fiasco, because I have read many comments that the device doesn't work fine with firmware 1.0A.1.6 or so.
Please, tell me, which is the firmware version which is working fine with? Is it 0.1.D.0.6 the device is working perfectly? Do you recommend this headset?
For me this is the most complete and feature packed Bluetooth headset today, I am about to buy it.
Are all its features working in Android 5.1.1?
Please help me! Thank you!

[Q] What DAC in the G Flex 2?

One of the reasons I'm abandoning my Galaxy S5 is that the audio doesn't sound great. Does anyone know what DAC is in the LG F Flex 2? I can't find it online anywhere, and in-store comparison is difficult.
I cannot agree more. I have no idea what DAC LG uses in this phone but to me it sounds at least 50% better even over the BT in my car.
I just couldn't set the EQ to my liking on S5 no matter how hard I tried. It was always only "acceptable".
Just as a heads up. The DAC on the phone doesn't do anything when over Bluetooth. The phone sends audio as 0s & 1s over Bluetooth, and the receiver/head unit has a DAC which does the converting. All that to say, I haven't been totally blown away by call quality, but i d say it's better than the gs3 which is what one coming from.
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Just as a heads up. The DAC on the phone doesn't do anything when over Bluetooth. The phone sends audio as 0s & 1s over Bluetooth, and the receiver/head unit has a DAC which does the converting. All that to say, I haven't been totally blown away by call quality, but i d say it's better than the gs3 which is what one coming from.
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Yeah, I know that, but the sound either wired or over BT sounds to me much more clearer with more detail and better separation. Why? No idea.
Exactly. It's odd. According the reviews in gsmarena (which I found after posting), basically the gs5 has terrific measured specs for audio via wired headphones, which is all I really care about. Clearly, if I wanted nice speakers, I'd either buy some or at least have an HTC One. And, as zoundguy correctly points out, the DAC is irrelevant to digitally-transmitted media. All that said, my GS5 still sounds like crap.
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Exactly. It's odd. According the reviews in gsmarena (which I found after posting), basically the gs5 has terrific measured specs for audio via wired headphones, which is all I really care about. Clearly, if I wanted nice speakers, I'd either buy some or at least have an HTC One. And, as zoundguy correctly points out, the DAC is irrelevant to digitally-transmitted media. All that said, my GS5 still sounds like crap.
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I'm with you on that one. I'm using wire in my truck and BT in my car. Both sound better than my S5 which I happily traded in for $120.

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