http://www.kainy.com/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kainy.client
I don't have it, it is $5.04 in the app store. I just emailed the developer to ask if our Xperia Play controls will work with this. The Videos on Youtube look awesome (Playing WoW and others) But I don't want to shell out the cash if the only option is onscreen controls.
Thoughts???
What's Kainy?
Kainy is a remote desktop oriented for gaming and performance.
Stream your games from your PC into your Phone/Tablet.
Available for Android (Phone, Tablet).
Available soon for Ipod/IPhone/IPad.
Why Uses Kainy?
Play your PC Games Everywhere (Wifi/3G/4G)
Easy to Setup, to Install and to Play!!!
About 100 Preset Templates for Controls and UI.
Up to 60 fps.
Customize your Interfaces (Buttons and Controls).
Apply your Custom Pages (Interfaces) for each of your Games/Applications.
Use Accelerometer to control your Games.
Support Fullscreen, Sounds, Bluetooth Keyboard...
Authentication/Data encryption in 128 bits.
Get Started On Kainy!
Download Kainy for Windows!
Download Kainy on the Android Market!
Run Kainy for Windows!
Launch Kainy Application on your Phone!
Synchronize and Play your favorite games!
Just got a response back from the developer, its GREAT news!
Hi Rob!
Yes it should support the XPeria Play but I "hardcoded" values for buttons like (cross/triangle/square/select/start).
I will try soon (< 2 weeks) to add an option that you will be able to set a specific action like (spacebar, d, control, ...) for each buttons of xperia.
I add your request in my backlog. I've received feedbacks and now i'm fixing bugs and add new features.
I will release a new version (Kainy 1.01) this Sunday .
Best Regards and thanks for your comments, suggestions and post on XDA,
JS.
Definitely going to buy this. Been waiting for this for a long time.
Does the pc need to be switched on for this to work?
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Yes, the PC will have to be switched on. The way it, if I understood it right, is that it streams the video to your phone and then adds controls on your phones screen.
I am very interested in this app and the idea. If the analogs work and the gameplay is smooth even over a 3g network as advertised then I'm on it. I am just curious how that would work and if there is be a demo to try.
i emailed the dev.
and wow,fast response.
i'm asking about the internet minimum requirement and the plus value than another diff remote app.
here is the answer:
For the Local Wifi is really fast. You should get a 30-60fps depends of your phone and computer.
And for the internet connection, there are 2 mains factors, your internet provider for upload (computer->internet) and your phone download bandwidth (internet->phone).
I have a really low upload connection at home. So I optimized the software to be able to work at 0.5 mbps for "internet mode".
And if the speed is too low, I've created 4 types of quality image between low->high quality.
I think the plus values is customization like you can customize your games and they keep the settings.
So if you customize Skyrim, after customize wow, and come back to play skyrim, you'll get skyrim settings.
And each applications has 5 pages, so you can only put minimal buttons and switch pages.
I definetely want to buy this app next month,still wait my salary pay off.
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Yes, the PC will have to be switched on. The way it, if I understood it right, is that it streams the video to your phone and then adds controls on your phones screen.
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Then what is the point of this?
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Then what is the point of this?
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Umm to play your computer games on your phone when not at your computer. Like remote desktop but specifically for gaming
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KindaUndisputed said:
Then what is the point of this?
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Imagine you are not at your computer right now, so boring and want to continue playing Mass Effect 3, Darksiders, PS2 games, Dreamcast games, Gamecube games, Wii games through various types of emulator etc.
While sometimes I'll leave my laptop at the first floor and kind of wanted to play PC games downstairs at my sofa or far...far..away from my home. It's very usefull. It's like your own ONLIVE system. I have use this kind of thing before with PSPDisp. But it's limited to WiFi connectivity. But Kainy can connect using WiFi/3G/4G...Wow!!!
I see, not much of a point for me since I wouldn't keep the laptop on probably but useful for others
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Like the author said, it's for gaming desktops mostly...
Most laptops lack the power of a desktop...
Laptops are made to be carried around, so why bother replying?
Sorry, I didn't fully read the OP, I get it now. Thanks
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Sooooooo does this mean you can be miles and miles away from your computer and access it from your phone?
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Sooooooo does this mean you can be miles and miles away from your computer and access it from your phone?
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There are already several methods of doing this and have been for quite some time.
This allows you to remotely play games on your PC
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Sooooooo does this mean you can be miles and miles away from your computer and access it from your phone?
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No, it means that you can be miles and miles away from your gaming pc and stream your games to your phone.
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Now just reverse it so i can hook my pc to the big screen and have my play games on it
E-mail the developer and tell him, he might add something like that, who knows?
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Now just reverse it so i can hook my pc to the big screen and have my play games on it
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I was thinking of this, maybe there's already an app?
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I would love to see an advert version of this, I want to try it so bad but I just can't pay for it. Plus, I saw something about a laptop as I skimmed through this, try an older game. The ONLY reason why I want this app is so I can play Grandia 2, since the Dreamcast emulator for Android hasn't come out, and the PC version is SO low end, I'll be playing once I remember how I got it to run on XP. Stupid Win98 only titles. lol
Hey guys, I thought I'd share my experience so far with using my stock .30 FW TF700 as a gaming console device. My setup is using a MicroHDMI cable to output to a 55" TV with a 5.1 surround sound receiver and speaker set, and using the dock, I am able to use the wired, PC version of the Xbox 360 controller. There are ways to use the wireless console version using a wireless receiver, but I won't get into that as I have no experience with it. There are, however, how-to's on YouTube and other sources. You can also use Wii and PS3 controllers over Bluetooth. I chose the Xbox controller because I am used to it and more comfortable with wired versus a wireless connection.
First I'll get movies out of the way. I'm using BS Player with the the BS Engine hardware acceleration (after some very basic and general testing I found this option to yield the most/best average frames per sec, which comes out to an average of 23.97 FPS). The video is a DVD rip, standard 700ish meg file. The movie is Snow White and the Huntsmen (I chose this because it has a LOT of dark scenes and dark scenes always yield the worst viewing distortions in my experience). The movie looks and plays perceptibly identical as when I play the file on my PC and output via HDMI to the same TV, so no complaints there. I'm happy with movie playback here. My one complaint, though, is that you are not able to either close the tablet docked or power off the tablet screen and keep playing the movie on the screen. If anyone knows a workaround to this I would really appreciate some feedback. My only workaround atm is to turn the tablet away from me so I don't see the screen glow that distracts me from the movie. This also drains the battery faster if you don't have the option to be plugged in.
For gaming, the first game I tried was Dead Trigger, available for free, using a pay to win type strategy I think. Prior to plugging in my Xbox controller, I did not have any game pad options. After plugging in the controller, I was given a game pad option to map keys, and after that setup, I was able to play the game with my Xbox controller with no problems. Controls are very smooth, but fine tuning options you get on console games are absent, like aim down sights toggle versus hold and release, but I can live with that. When playing through the MicroHDMI cable on the TV, it would be very easy to confuse this game with an Xbox arcade game, if not even a retail title, the graphics are really clean and crisp. This game doesn't have bloom effects and other types of high end graphics tricks, so I'm not sure what it's fully capable of. But I did not notice any difference in performance between playing on the tablet itself and the TV. One hiccup though that I found annoying was that despite using a game pad, I was still required to use the touchscreen to advance through the menu. Maybe there is some mapping options I can tweak to fix this, because it is very annoying with the tablet having to be in the dock to use the controller. If anyone has successfully used a USB to MicroUSB to use the controller without the dock I'd love to hear about it. All in all I was happy with it.
Next game up was N.O.V.A. 3. This game does not appear to natively support game pads. If it does please someone correct me and tell me what I'm doing wrong. In order to address this, I picked up a couple apps off the app store, Joystick Center 6 and Joy2Touch, both by the same author, Poke64738. I'm struggling to get these to work, but I am sure it is ID 10 T error on my part, as many people have had success using his apps to play android games using USB and Bluetooth controllers, as well as keyboard and mouse combos. These apps work by using controller input from USB and Bluetooth devices to emulate touch input on the capacitive touchscreen, and involve a mapping overly while in the game requiring you to touch the screen and map that screen tap to the appropriate button on your input device. Once I get it sorted out, I'm sure it will be right as rain, and if anyone has a source for a walk through or how-to I would greatly appreciate the link, or better yet, a source for Xbox controller profiles would be better. N.O.V.O. 3 loading times seem to take a very long time, which I think is caused by our tablets' I/O issues, and I don't see how JB/Project Butter could address that. But has for video and audio quality, just as Dead Trigger, it looked great and ran at good speed with no tears or artifacts or any noticeable defects. Once I figure out my Joystick Center 6 setup I'm sure this will be a fun game to play.
All in all I'm having fun using my tablet as a console like device, aside from the few minor issues i described. I hope this was helpful to anyone trying to decide if they want to invest in the stuff needed to do this. Also, any feedback for the issues I'm having, apps I'm using, or ways to improve the experience are very welcome, for the benefit of myself and the community.
TL;DR TF700 makes a pretty good gaming console IMO.
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Hey guys, I thought I'd share my experience so far with using my stock .30 FW TF700 as a gaming console device. My setup is using a MicroHDMI cable to output to a 55" TV with a 5.1 surround sound receiver and speaker set, and using the dock, I am able to use the wired, PC version of the Xbox 360 controller. There are ways to use the wireless console version using a wireless receiver, but I won't get into that as I have no experience with it. There are, however, how-to's on YouTube and other sources. You can also use Wii and PS3 controllers over Bluetooth. I chose the Xbox controller because I am used to it and more comfortable with wired versus a wireless connection.
First I'll get movies out of the way. I'm using BS Player with the the BS Engine hardware acceleration (after some very basic and general testing I found this option to yield the most/best average frames per sec, which comes out to an average of 23.97 FPS). The video is a DVD rip, standard 700ish meg file. The movie is Snow White and the Huntsmen (I chose this because it has a LOT of dark scenes and dark scenes always yield the worst viewing distortions in my experience). The movie looks and plays perceptibly identical as when I play the file on my PC and output via HDMI to the same TV, so no complaints there. I'm happy with movie playback here. My one complaint, though, is that you are not able to either close the tablet docked or power off the tablet screen and keep playing the movie on the screen. If anyone knows a workaround to this I would really appreciate some feedback. My only workaround atm is to turn the tablet away from me so I don't see the screen glow that distracts me from the movie. This also drains the battery faster if you don't have the option to be plugged in.
For gaming, the first game I tried was Dead Trigger, available for free, using a pay to win type strategy I think. Prior to plugging in my Xbox controller, I did not have any game pad options. After plugging in the controller, I was given a game pad option to map keys, and after that setup, I was able to play the game with my Xbox controller with no problems. Controls are very smooth, but fine tuning options you get on console games are absent, like aim down sights toggle versus hold and release, but I can live with that. When playing through the MicroHDMI cable on the TV, it would be very easy to confuse this game with an Xbox arcade game, if not even a retail title, the graphics are really clean and crisp. This game doesn't have bloom effects and other types of high end graphics tricks, so I'm not sure what it's fully capable of. But I did not notice any difference in performance between playing on the tablet itself and the TV. One hiccup though that I found annoying was that despite using a game pad, I was still required to use the touchscreen to advance through the menu. Maybe there is some mapping options I can tweak to fix this, because it is very annoying with the tablet having to be in the dock to use the controller. If anyone has successfully used a USB to MicroUSB to use the controller without the dock I'd love to hear about it. All in all I was happy with it.
Next game up was N.O.V.A. 3. This game does not appear to natively support game pads. If it does please someone correct me and tell me what I'm doing wrong. In order to address this, I picked up a couple apps off the app store, Joystick Center 6 and Joy2Touch, both by the same author, Poke64738. I'm struggling to get these to work, but I am sure it is ID 10 T error on my part, as many people have had success using his apps to play android games using USB and Bluetooth controllers, as well as keyboard and mouse combos. These apps work by using controller input from USB and Bluetooth devices to emulate touch input on the capacitive touchscreen, and involve a mapping overly while in the game requiring you to touch the screen and map that screen tap to the appropriate button on your input device. Once I get it sorted out, I'm sure it will be right as rain, and if anyone has a source for a walk through or how-to I would greatly appreciate the link, or better yet, a source for Xbox controller profiles would be better. N.O.V.O. 3 loading times seem to take a very long time, which I think is caused by our tablets' I/O issues, and I don't see how JB/Project Butter could address that. But has for video and audio quality, just as Dead Trigger, it looked great and ran at good speed with no tears or artifacts or any noticeable defects. Once I figure out my Joystick Center 6 setup I'm sure this will be a fun game to play.
All in all I'm having fun using my tablet as a console like device, aside from the few minor issues i described. I hope this was helpful to anyone trying to decide if they want to invest in the stuff needed to do this. Also, any feedback for the issues I'm having, apps I'm using, or ways to improve the experience are very welcome, for the benefit of myself and the community.
TL;DR TF700 makes a pretty good gaming console IMO.
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do you have any pics? i'd love to see some you should try asphalt 7
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do you have any pics? i'd love to see some you should try asphalt 7
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Asphalt 7 won't install from the play store for our device, i had bought it on my phone but am unable to install it.
PantechBurstOwner said:
do you have any pics? i'd love to see some you should try asphalt 7
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Asphalt 7 won't install from the play store for our device, i had bought it on my phone but am unable to install it.
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I'll see what I can do....
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I've managed to dig up an old copy I had of the game and forgot I backed up from my Galaxy, if I can get it running I'll take some pics or maybe a video, but not sure where I could post the video, haven't done this sort of thing before. Youtube? Or this there an easier option?
No need for a video unless you want to, I just wanted to see how that was set up. does it look good on the TV?
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Yeah, every thing looks great on the tv, same quality as what appears on the tablet. I had to fiddle with the ratio button on the TV remote to get it to fit right, set it to "Just Scan" and it all fit nicely.
I got asphalt 7 on my tf700, and it runs and plays nice, but it doesn't support game pad natively, so I gotta wait until I figure out the joystick center 6 app. It's starting to seem like none of the Gameloft games have support for game pads built in. I really hope developers get in the habit of including this.
I've tried a couple of games on my TV and I always have a very noticeable, yet small, delay from the tablet screen to the tv screen. I find it makes some games difficult to play. Have you noticed this at all?
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Does anyone happen to know if Shadowgun THD happens to support game pads natively?
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I've tried a couple of games on my TV and I always have a very noticeable, yet small, delay from the tablet screen to the tv screen. I find it makes some games difficult to play. Have you noticed this at all?
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No, fortunately I haven't noticed this issue, not that I was looking for it though. I was having to use the touch screen while playing so I think I would have noticed. But now that you have mentioned it I will keep an eye out for it. Just a shot in the dark, but does your TV operate at 120Hz? Not sure if that would cause the delay, but it wouldn't surprise me if it did. Also, it may be the cable. I know that it's a digital signal and a crappy cable is suppose to work just like a good one, but there might be an issue there in the cable. I would try a different cable, and / or a different TV, if you are able to. Then you could narrow it down. If it's still doing it after a different cable and on a different TV, then it's more then likely something to do with the tablet itself.
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I've tried a couple of games on my TV and I always have a very noticeable, yet small, delay from the tablet screen to the tv screen. I find it makes some games difficult to play. Have you noticed this at all?
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OK so I went and did some testing, with games, movies, and web browsing, scrolling up and down and stuff, and I didn't notice any lag between what was being displayed on my tablet and what was displaying on the TV. Hope this is helpful to you.
One workaround to the tablet screen issue is using an app like rootdim to decrease the backlight of your tablet to zero. This would turn the screen off on the tablet and not the tv. Getting the backlight back on wouldn't be too hard since you can use the mouse on the dock to control things on your tv instead of the touchscreen.
Oh and there are some ways to navigate the tablet easier. With the joystick app you bought, it's possible to use the joystick on your controller as a mouse. This could easily be activated with the touch of a button that isn't really used on the controller, making it possible to switch back and forth. A downside of this is that games that natively use the gamepad (such as dead trigger and shadowgun) won't work if you're using the joystick center app.
Another way to navigate is blueputdroid. Simply download this app on your phone and now you have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard. This could control virtually everything on your tablet. Games like dead trigger could be navigated from the couch and you could even easily browse the internet since you now have a keyboard.
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Another way to navigate is blueputdroid. Simply download this app on your phone and now you have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard. This could control virtually everything on your tablet. Games like dead trigger could be navigated from the couch and you could even easily browse the internet since you now have a keyboard.
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LOL I was just thinking earlier today "How can I use an android phone to control an android tablet?". Thank you so much for that info, and I am most definitely going to check it out! But wouldn't this require some kind of server app running on the android tablet? I've used my phone as a keyboard/nouse with my pc before, and they all required the pc side to have a server program running in the background.
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Does anyone happen to know if Shadowgun THD happens to support game pads natively?
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I believe it does.
If you're rooted and have a PS3 controller, you can always install Sixaxais Controller. It lets you maps virtual controls. I've done it with Dead Trigger. It works pretty good, but I can't quite get the movement setting just right.
I risked it and went ahead and spent the five bucks on Shadowgun THD. It does support game pads natively, so that's awesome. Plays like a Gears of War Lite.
My next endeavor will be to get the TF700 LTE model when it comes out, unless a better option comes along. I want to use a data plan with it along with something like splashtop to remote into my pc at home.
I can see it now, grinding out levels in guild wars 2 at the bus stop. I did this over my home wireless network and it worked great.
I'm curious about some things concerning the differences between the current TF700 and the LTE TF700 coming out, but I'm gonna make a separate post about that.
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LOL I was just thinking earlier today "How can I use an android phone to control an android tablet?". Thank you so much for that info, and I am most definitely going to check it out! But wouldn't this require some kind of server app running on the android tablet? I've used my phone as a keyboard/nouse with my pc before, and they all required the pc side to have a server program running in the background.
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It doesn't need an app installed on the tablet because it acts as a bluetooth mouse and keyboard, which the tablet natively supports.
Another alternative to blueputdroid is the app called tablet remote, the buttons are similar to that of a tv remote, so it's not as versatile as blueputdroid, but and you can connect via bluetooth or over wi-fi. You'll need the app installed on both the tablet and phone.
There are tons of apps out there that can turn xperia play as a pc gamepad but they take no advantage of the dual analogs.Now if a cool developer can create an app or modify a current one to let us use the touchpas it would be awesome.!!! I mean imagine using left touchpad for movement in an fps game, and right touchpad for camera movement with an option to adjust sensitivity.I am currently using app.pcon by Noire since it is easy to set up although it lacks the touchpads which are needed in every single 3d game.I played Darksouls with my play as controller although i found it hard to move with arrows and eventually i couldnt map every button i needed since all four dpad buttons were used as a movement option.Thank you for your time.If i could develop i would it myself for every xperia play owner but i lack the skills required::fingers-crossed:
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There are tons of apps out there that can turn xperia play as a pc gamepad but they take no advantage of the dual analogs.Now if a cool developer can create an app or modify a current one to let us use the touchpas it would be awesome.!!! I mean imagine using left touchpad for movement in an fps game, and right touchpad for camera movement with an option to adjust sensitivity.I am currently using app.pcon by Noire since it is easy to set up although it lacks the touchpads which are needed in every single 3d game.I played Darksouls with my play as controller although i found it hard to move with arrows and eventually i couldnt map every button i needed since all four dpad buttons were used as a movement option.Thank you for your time.If i could develop i would it myself for every xperia play owner but i lack the skills required::fingers-crossed:
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You have 2 solutions Friend!
1) Install the application Kainy, use PC mode controller. And with gamekeyboard emulate analog like the mouse to control the camera in some games.
2) Install a Rom Android 4.0 or higher, and with the application USB / BT Joystick Center (which is better than gamekeyboard) and use the analog and mouse, and configure other keys to your liking.
Hope that helps,
If you need any help leave a more detailed tutorial
Kainy gives me some issues on controlling the mouse... :\ did you have any?
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Kainy gives me some issues on controlling the mouse... :\ did you have any?
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So there is no app i can use directly to emulate and map analogs on play?Altough i think it can be done somehow...
Maybe it can be done with Droidmote but i have a hard time installing drivers and it is getting very messy
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Kainy gives me some issues on controlling the mouse... :\ did you have any?
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but tasted the latest verson 1.40??
eh read that has some bugs, but it's pretty configurable within everything. And it depends on the PC and Internet speed you have, and you wear rom installed. For applications Gamekeyboard Kainy & USB BT Joystick Center or go smoother.
I have a 10 mb connection & a PC (Intel Quad Core i7 3770, AMD graphics card Radeon HD 6850 1GB DDR5, and 8 gigs of ram and GTA 4 is playable on my Xplay as gods.
For PS2 games on PC emulator. Kainy + USB / BT Joystick Center is excellent. Eh I did not tested yet, but I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfT64J3NZKg
Hi guys, I don't know if this is kind of an off topic and is not meant as commercial but I found a great app that uses my wear device as a game controller.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hr.coreaplikacije.tennis
I've been playing it for two days now on my Moto 360 and it's fun.
The only thing you need to do is to go to options and select manual calibration cause Moto 360 says that it has an magnetometer so app thinks it can use automatic
calibration but as it seems Moto 360 does not have magnetometer, or so I'm told.
Follow instructions on screen for calibration to calibrate it, it's a bit strange at first but after you get a hang on it it's better than wii, and you can also connect your phone
to a TV and play like that, would be great to have a phone with TV connectivity to play it on a big TV screen.
Indeed very fun to play, but also VERY hard. Tried it with sending my phone screen to my TV using a Chromecast and playing like that. Didn't work out so well.
It's also very cool to show-off to your friends haha, they are already amazed by the Moto 360 and now even more.
Hello,
I am one of the developers of this game and just found this thread...
Can you be more specific on why is it so hard? When we were fine tuning the game before its release, we were actually afraid it was very easy, but we thought it was because we are used to gameplay.
Also, sending the display to another screen should make no difference.
Make sure you do correct calibration when game is installed on a device without magnetometer. Using our latest update calibration is not needed if both devices have magnetometer and thus relative position of racket to tennis field is known.
Moto 360 is specific because it reports that it has magnetometer, while in fact it does not! Therefore you have an option to force manual calibration and its "fake" magnetometer will continue to work.
sounds cool as F!