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Just been into phones4u and I can confirm the lense cover is different to the vodafone one I saw on Friday.... the voda one had an almost flush lense cover where as the
P4u phone didn't have a lense cover...
Thought I'd let everyone know asap
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I warned p4u that it was missing the lense and that they probably have a dodgy batch.... you can clearly see that the lense is missing.. .
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Could you not have posted this in the other thread? This kind of crap makes it hard to find anything in the forum. Also, my vodafone Sensation has a recessed camera, no flush casing.
Then yours is missing the lense cover that's meant to be on the case..... I'm sorry for making a new thread but personally I'd be happy to know this news if I didn't already know
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Why exactly would it be missing? HTC wouldn't send out a phone with such a GLARING error if it really was an issue.
People have said in the other thread, that all demo devices have covers, but devices we have don't. If you look at, where is the cover meant to go? That black ring inside the case is almost flush with the back of the case.
The phone vodafone let me play with was straight out the box. It was about 1/3mm indented within the case.
I'm not lying I just thought people ought to know. I'm going to there stored on Monday to get it and will maker sure it has the lense cover.
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The phone vodafone let me play with was straight out the box. It was about 1/3mm indented within the case.
I'm not lying I just thought people ought to know. I'm going to there stored on Monday to get it and will maker sure it has the lense cover.
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Any photo to confirm?
Like I said, I highly doubt HTC would send out devices with such a massive flaw.
No but I can safely say the phone p4u showed me whilst they checked it was unlocked for me, had a lack of lense composers to the one vodafone showed me on Friday after opening a fresh box for me. Definitely going to vodafone tomorrow to get it as I think the lense cover with be beneficial with time.
Tl;dr. There is definitely a difference from the phones I saw.
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It hasnt actually been confirmed by vodafone or htc, your just giving your findings.
As far as I can see, no retail boxed sensation has the lens cover flush with the case.
It only seems to be demo phones that do. Perhaps early production models, used for demo only.
I'll get it tomorrow and show you... I'm not complaining nor am I from another board here to slate the sensation... I'm just reporting my findings as its something I'd like to know if I was missing a lense cover from a phone i just bought. The phone I was shown from vodafone was straight out of the box and not a demo.
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What I dont get is how there could be so many phones without it. Its not like it even looks like its missing from my phone, it looks to be designed that way, there is no room to fit an extra lens over the hole.
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What I dont get is how there could be so many phones without it. Its not like it even looks like its missing from my phone, it looks to be designed that way, there is no room to fit an extra lens over the hole.
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^I agree with this.
Well, I hope you're not disappointed and find one with a lens cover. But also be ready in the eventuality that the design was changed.
Personally I think the only lens covers which are beneficial are sliding lens covers. Glass ones can get scratched and sure that protects the lens, but the only way to benefit from that protection is to remove the battery cover because if not you're still taking pictures through the scratches. And who wants to take off the cover every time they take a picture?
Please don't think I made this thread purely to spark an argument... it was not the intention if it seems that way. I'm just letting people know that there is definitely as difference.
I've had a bit of time to read peoples comments and am definitely getting the phone tomorrow regardless
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Please don't think I made this thread purely to spark an argument... it was not the intention if it seems that way. I'm just letting people know that there is definitely as difference.
I've had a bit of time to read peoples comments and am definitely getting the phone tomorrow regardless
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I dont think you are trying to spark an argument, just finding it hard to believe there is a fault thats all.
I'm going to be interested to see what your replacement is like and what we hear back from vodafone and htc about the issue.
If it's recessed but edges are sealed that is even better option than if it was levelled with cover, don't you think? Less of a chance of scratching it.
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If it's recessed but edges are sealed that is even better option than if it was levelled with cover, don't you think? Less of a chance of scratching it.
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that's what i mean! this is how the vodafone was that i saw on Friday...the case had the lense and it was ever so slightly recessed but it was all sealed.
The one from Phones4U didn't have the case lense, was about 1mm recesssed and Thought to myself dust will get in there a lot more and IF it got scratched, then you most likely need to pay more to fix.
thinking about going into to town at 9am tomorrow to get it from voda so i can spend all day playing with it whilst at work. Pretty sure this is the right phone for me. must admit...the main screen looks great have the curved edges
ok..my last post about this issue until i get the phone for myself tomorrow
I've just watched the slashgear unboxing vid and I'm 100% sure that the one he's carrying is the same one that was shown to me in Phones4u, where as the one i was shown in Vodafone definitely had a sealed lens cover on the rear casing...which would stop dust getting into the camera lens/battery area/chasis.
Can anyone who got it from Vodafone confirm this? I know a letter has been sent out to HTC about this, I'm personally just thinking about other people that are missing the lens, as i really think it's a faulty batch. The phone, when i played with it in P4U really did seem like it was missing the lens and didn't look complete without it.
This video shows a lens cover. Skip to 3:20, also at 4:10. You'll see the reflections.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-yRVxCvv7c
Again, don't know where he got the phone, but he posts here, so should be able to find out.
That video, 4:10, reflection isn't in the surface of the phone...there is no lens cover on that handset...but there isn't on mine either!
I received my Seidio Surface case on Wednesday. At first, I was really excited. The case has a nice finish and good build quality. However, yesterday I decided to take the case off to clean my phone and I saw the four corners of the phone very deeply scratched. The bezel also has some scratches.
Before someone says it's because of debris and dust that gets in the case, I am pretty sure that I cleaned the case very well and dusted if off with a can of compressed air. The scratches were definitely caused by the case.
I am deeply disappointed with Seidio and their product. This piece o junk that costs almost 40 bucks was meant to protect my device, yet it did the opposite.
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i had mines for 2 months and no deep scratches only on the side bezel maybe 1 or 2, but that is due to me taking case on and off tryin to take out battery and messing around with it. The case looks good doesnt feel cheap or look cheap like other cases like tpu or wateva silicone cases. And i really dont care about scratches on side bezel or corner im more worry about me dropping my phone and screen getting cracked!!! i dropped my phone with the Seidio case on like 5 times and no damages at all.
sorry to hear that. I have experienced scratches by cases before, that's why I don't use hard cases anymore. THe only cases I would go for is silicone and TPU. Even with my Motrola xt720 TPU hard case, it still gave micro-scratches on the phone.
The whole point of getting a case for me was preventing scratches, since I hardly ever drop my phone. Seidio sucks.
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I received my Seidio Surface case on Wednesday. At first, I was really excited. The case has a nice finish and good build quality. However, yesterday I decided to take the case off to clean my phone and I saw the four corners of the phone very deeply scratched. The bezel also has some scratches.
Before someone says it's because of debris and dust that gets in the case, I am pretty sure that I cleaned the case very well and dusted if off with a can of compressed air. The scratches were definitely caused by the case.
I am deeply disappointed with Seidio and their product. This piece o junk that costs almost 40 bucks was meant to protect my device, yet it did the opposite.
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Sure! and I bet you have a product to push, right? I have owned the sedio case for two weeks. I take it off and replace it with ease. It's not the best case for safety but it is definitely a quality product best for overall look of the device. I HAVE NOT HAD ANY PROBLEM AT ALL.
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Sure! and I bet you have a product to push, right? I have owned the sedio case for two weeks. I take it off and replace it with ease. It's not the best case for safety but it is definitely a quality product best for overall look of the device. I HAVE NOT HAD ANY PROBLEM AT ALL.
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What do you mean product to push? If you think I'm trying to lead people not buy Seidio, you are right. But as you mentioned, it appeared to be the best choice in the market at the moment. I'm just posting my experience as a user, if you wanna have a chance of getting your phone scratched, then go ahead and use a Seidio case. However, I feel at least obligated to share my experience and warn others in the G2x community about bad products that I have had experience with. Contrary to you who seems to be a selfish kid.
the whole point is ur saying its terrible its bad etc..., but i dont see ppl complaining about it. I guess if your a clumsy person then u shouldnt get a seidio case is that what your saying? i mean can u show us a picture. I mean if its a little scratch then i dont really care....i think ppl buy cases for 2 reason #1 Protect the phone #2 YOUR CASE MUST LOOK AWESOME!!!!!
TPU CASES LOOK GARBAGE I went thru 2 of them
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the whole point is ur saying its terrible its bad etc..., but i dont see ppl complaining about it. I guess if your a clumsy person then u shouldnt get a seidio case is that what your saying? i mean can u show us a picture. I mean if its a little scratch then i dont really care....i think ppl buy cases for 2 reason #1 Protect the phone #2 YOUR CASE MUST LOOK AWESOME!!!!!
TPU CASES LOOK GARBAGE I went thru 2 of them
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I will take a picture and post here, but first I need to get a camera. By Friday it should be posted. Now, if you doubt what I'm saying, just google "seidio scratch phone" without quotes. You will be surprised in knowing that I'm not the first one to experience this. Again, I may be the first one to actually post my experience with the G2x and the Seidio case. If I know something, why not share with others?
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The inner edges of the cases are curved in too much. So over time, it will cause minute scratches.
Immediate fix would be to sand it down a little.
Here's a pic of one of the corners. That mark is exactly where the cases inner edge is. So no, the OP is not making this up.
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Here's a pic of one of the corners. That mark is exactly where the cases inner edge is. So no, the OP is not making this up.
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Thank you for the picture GideonX. On my phone, is much worse. The corners have been heavily scratched by the case. I will post pictures soon. I have already contacted Seidio but they have not answered yet. I was so pissed with it that I have thrown it in the trash.
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Idk if it's your camera or just horrible compression, but your pics are so blurry, I can't see a dang thing.
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Wow, that Seido case sucks. Pictures easily the rub and vibration damage.
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Idk if it's your camera or just horrible compression, but your pics are so blurry, I can't see a dang thing.
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They are thumbnails. You have to use your browser to be able to click on them and see their real size.
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I just got mine. It fits really nice and snug. I can't even see how vibration could cause marks like that. The only problem for me is that now I want a case for my case...because it looks soooo damn nice.
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I just got mine. It fits really nice and snug. I can't even see how vibration could cause marks like that. The only problem for me is that now I want a case for my case...because it looks soooo damn nice.
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Check back in about two weeks. Obviously if you just got it, you aren't going to see this problem yet.
I can confirm that the case has done the same thing on my phone, but not as badly as OP. Still, I'm really bothered by it. Went back to my 4 dollar TPU case and not too happy about it.
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Thanks for the heads up, I removed my case to check for scratches, but there were none. I've had the case for about 2 weeks now. To the people who have scratches, do you use vibration? That may be the problem because I rarely use vibration and I have no scratches at all
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Thanks for the heads up, I removed my case to check for scratches, but there were none. I've had the case for about 2 weeks now. To the people who have scratches, do you use vibration? That may be the problem because I rarely use vibration and I have no scratches at all
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You're welcome. I'm happy that I'm able to warn people before their phones get scratched like mine did. I did have vibration on just for a couple of hours when I was in a meeting. Besides that, vibration was off the whole time.
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Yes, vibration was used.
Seidio has still not replied to the tech support inquiry regarding this.
donatello88 - you hear anything from them?
Seen it, searched the forum, and thought I'd share.
http://www.xgearlive.com/products/android/lg/sentinel-41
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Nice! Will the official Google bumper still work with this?
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FallN said:
Nice! Will the official Google bumper still work with this?
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I'm hoping so. I just ordered it.
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obtained said:
I'm hoping so. I just ordered it.
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Great! Did you get an estimated shipping date?
I don't want to wait ages for a $$$ protector... (A lot of the other Nexus 4 glass protectors seem to have horrible delays in shipping or never seem to materialize at all...)
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Great! Did you get an estimated shipping date?
I don't want to wait ages for a $$$ protector... (A lot of the other Nexus 4 glass protectors seem to have horrible delays in shipping or never seem to materialize at all...)
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It just said orders are shipped out 24-48 hours after they are received. I chose USPS priority mail.
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I hope I'm wrong but I think this will add bulk to the phone which might be an issue for some if not most cases/bumpers, specially if you are already using a front glass protector. Again I really hope that I'm wrong and look forward to seeing any pictures/video reviews of the item from the community.
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I hope I'm wrong but I think this will add bulk to the phone which might be an issue for some if not most cases/bumpers, specially if you are already using a front glass protector. Again I really hope that I'm wrong and look forward to seeing any pictures/video reviews of the item from the community.
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"bulk" ? It's .5mm!
After having the front one from them which is .4mm I found that it adds a little (for lack of a better word) bulk to the phone. The cases/bumpers would normally have a nice lip around the phone so when you put the phone face down the screen would never touch the surface but with the front glass SP that nice space that the lip would create would be diminished because the cases/bumpers don't go on top of the glass SP but right next to it pushing against it, so in my head I'm thinking that having that in the back or having both in front and back would be a bad result. Maybe I'm not explaining myself right but it makes sense in my head :silly:
Has anyone received this yet?
I'm very curious about this product, I'm wanting to use my phone naked (yes I'm crazy - but extremely careful) never ever dropped any of my phones.
I agree. Has anyone received this yet??
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Curious to know how this would fit with my rearth fusion. Does anyone know?
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We're all still waiting to hear from anyone whose gotten this... No replies so far...
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Hey I did receive it a while ago. I had some complications with it. When I applied it to the back of my phone it made it look really weird... It looked kind of like there were air bubbles underneath and looked kind of smashed on the bottom. I removed it to see if I applied it again if it would look different. Same thing. I was a little disappointed about how it looked and took it off. The bottom where it appeared to be smashed wasn't actually smashed. It was part of the adhesive that was not sticking to the glass. The entire back of the protector is a thin layer of adhesive. I ended up peeling the adhesive off the screen protector. It was kind of like a double-sided, thin, sticky piece of rubber, if that makes sense... I'm sorry I don't have pictures. I love xgear products but this is the poorest experience that I've ever had from an xgear product (really the poorest experience I have ever had from any product i've bought for my n4) . I think maybe if the adhesive was only on the edges like it is on the screen protector it would have been better. I think the air bubble looking effect was from the adhesive sticking to the phone... I don't want my money back or a replacement if it was even possible. My phone was very very clean before I applied it, I understood fully what I was doing when applying it. It just wasn't a great product at all. I still love xgear though.
Edit: Oh and to answer the question about the official nexus 4 bumper, Yes it will work with this. Also, shipping was very quick.
Wow so sorry to read that you had such a poor experience with it. That sucks!
If at all possible, could you take a few pictures of the screen protecter and the adhesive that was bubbling up? Thanks!
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Could be possible that it was a bad batch?
Hopefully someone will upload some photos soon!
I thought the full clear no border tempered glass protectors had the same rule as the dry screen protectors. Namely that you get the bubbles out that you can and then the rest come out after 24-48 hours. If you look at the installation instructions on the clear protectors for other phones I believe that is correct.
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Hey I did receive it a while ago. I had some complications with it. When I applied it to the back of my phone it made it look really weird... It looked kind of like there were air bubbles underneath and looked kind of smashed on the bottom. I removed it to see if I applied it again if it would look different. Same thing. I was a little disappointed about how it looked and took it off. The bottom where it appeared to be smashed wasn't actually smashed. It was part of the adhesive that was not sticking to the glass. The entire back of the protector is a thin layer of adhesive. I ended up peeling the adhesive off the screen protector. It was kind of like a double-sided, thin, sticky piece of rubber, if that makes sense... I'm sorry I don't have pictures. I love xgear products but this is the poorest experience that I've ever had from an xgear product (really the poorest experience I have ever had from any product i've bought for my n4) . I think maybe if the adhesive was only on the edges like it is on the screen protector it would have been better. I think the air bubble looking effect was from the adhesive sticking to the phone... I don't want my money back or a replacement if it was even possible. My phone was very very clean before I applied it, I understood fully what I was doing when applying it. It just wasn't a great product at all. I still love xgear though.
Edit: Oh and to answer the question about the official nexus 4 bumper, Yes it will work with this. Also, shipping was very quick.
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How did you removed it?
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I've already thrown it away. When I say it looks like air bubbles I mean something different. They weren't air bubbles at all. That's just the best way I could describe it. You can remove the protector by just prying it off from one of the edges..
I should have taken pictures but I was so disappointed I just threw it away. It was a really weird issue. If you have the money to spare try it out yourself. I love the idea of the protector but I won't be buying another one. I wouldn't even want one if it was free. I don't think it was defective... I think it was just the way it was made. And just to make it clear I'm not wanting to make the company look bad, I myself just wasn't satisfied with the product. I love xgear and the screen protector I bought from xgear that is on my phone right now.
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Does anyone know what material the camera lens is made of?
Is it Sapphire, Gorrilla glass or just plain plastic or glass?
It sticks out so far compared to the rest of the body, asking to be scratched... My last phone's screen was GG2 and it scratched when I put it face down on a table.
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Does anyone know what material the camera lens is made of?
Is it Sapphire, Gorrilla glass or just plain plastic or glass?
It sticks out so far compared to the rest of the body, asking to be scratched... My last phone's screen was GG2 and it scratched when I put it face down on a table.
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i think it's sapphire
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i think it's sapphire
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Any source?
And my god, why do I have to fill in a recaptcha even for every post...
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Any source?
And my god, why do I have to fill in a recaptcha even for every post...
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Because your new
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Any source?
And my god, why do I have to fill in a recaptcha even for every post...
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after a quick google search, i think im confusing it with the g2. i've been reading so much about the note 3, g2, and n5 over the past few weeks that some of it seems to be blending together
Any ideas people? I have been doing research online and like Enddo I can only find out about the G2.
Perhaps as it's not mentioned anywhere it is just standard glass or plastic... Anyone know someone who works closely with LG or Google?
The lg g2 camera lens is made of sapphire. The nexus 5 shares many components of the lg g2, so the only logical sense is the nexus 5' camera lens is made of sapphire.
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The lg g2 camera lens is made of sapphire. The nexus 5 shares many components of the lg g2, so the only logical sense is the nexus 5' camera lens is made of sapphire.
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Well, the G2 has a totally different and much smaller lens so it would cost less to make it out of sapphire - on the topic of costs as well the G2 costs a fair bit more to cover things like a sapphire lens.
Just my thoughts...
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Well, the G2 has a totally different and much smaller lens so it would cost less to make it out of sapphire - on the topic of costs as well the G2 costs a fair bit more to cover things like a sapphire lens.
Just my thoughts...
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Yeah, I seriously doubt it's a sapphire lens. That would be very expensive (relatively) as the camera lens is huge on this phone. I think it's just glass or maybe Gorilla Glass 3 (though I doubt it). Sapphire is expensive for phones just like it is for watches, even the iPhone only covers the very small portion of the camera with it only on the 5/5S.
That is not the lens. That is a protective cover. It may also have some optical coating, but not likely as it is too exposed to stand up to wear. In short, I believe it to be a low refraction, highly transmissive synthetic corundum. The actual lens is behind this. You can see an aperture in the gentee of a grey little mount. If you look carefully while the camera is running you can see it move to compensate for movement.
Edit: or it is just cheap, plain glass. Anyway, it isn't the lens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBlUL-7Dl4U
JerryRigEverything is at it again. Looks like the V20 holds up pretty well.
yeah pretty well... except look how easy the camera glass cracked. ugh.
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i recommend a gel or similar case or otterbox or similar case even though it could take alot of beat up and still work. It just for the finer area like the camera to prevent destruction...
beside the unknown bootloop that portion of the V20 look nice. I just need to experience the hardware/software
Whoa! Why haven't I seen that channel before?!? That is awesome and cathartic.
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Whoa! Why haven't I seen that channel before?!? That is awesome and cathartic.
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I also just discovered him right after the Note 7 dropped. He was not impressed with the durability. I appreciate his concise delivery and dry sense of humor.
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yeah pretty well... except look how easy the camera glass cracked. ugh.
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There's a factory installed "screen protector" on the lens cover,which doesn't interfere with the picture quality.
I'd like to think this will provide a decent amount of protection,although nothing will make it bullet-proof less an Otterbox defender or similar (no THX).
I hope the protective film holds up for a while before peeling back,& I'd guess there'll be protective films available on eBay soon,if not already for sale.
Myself,I'm gonna use a liquid sealer on both the display & camera lens cover,I have just enough left over from when I used it on my Note 7:
http://www.nanoflowx.com/spraygard
Man....that lense crack was insane. I see that being a huge issue.