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Amoled vs LCD ...The truth? Video inside

Since lots of users like to compare phones that didn't even hit the shops yet, or are not even officially launched , why not compare other related stuff? :
I find this recent Erica Griffin's video which is called "the truth about Amoled vs LCD" quite interesting:
I stick with Amoled anytime, even with the possibility of that "blue pixel burn-in"
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And here some interesting related info provided (once again) by Barry:
BarryH_GEG said:
Good news for the reviewer! She can buy AMOLED again if she wants to. Starting with the SGS4 Samsung's moved to a new PenTile geometry called Diamond Pixels. In it, sub-pixels are sized differently based on their longevity. Blue is the least energy efficient (most likely to erode) and is now larger than red and green.
A high resolution screen shot of the Galaxy S4*(provided by Samsung) shows an interesting design and sub-pixel arrangement, which Samsung callsDiamond Pixels. First of all, the Red, Green, and Blue sub-pixels have very different sizes – Blue is by far the largest because it has the lowest efficiency, and Green is by far the smallest because it has the highest efficiency. The alternating Red and Blue sub-pixel PenTile arrangement discussed above leads to a 45 degree diagonal symmetry in the sub-pixel layout. Then, in order to maximize the sub-pixel packing and achieve the highest possible PPI, that leads to diamond rather than square or stripe shaped Red and Blue sub-pixels. But not for the Green sub-pixels, which are oval shaped because they are squeezed between two much larger and different sized Red and Blue sub-pixels. It’s display art…​
As for what display is best, that's easy. The one you like the best.
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betoNL said:
Since lots of users like to compare phones that didn't even hit the shops yet, or are not even officially launched , why not compare other related stuff? :
I find this recent Erica Griffin's video which is called "the truth about Amoled vs LCD" quite interesting:
I stick with Amoled anytime, even with the possibility of that "blue pixel burn-in"
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I only buy Samsung because of the AMOLED screens.
it's true there will eventually be some bluish pixel burn-in after you have used the phone for a good 3 or more years
and it doesn't seem to affect all AMOLED screens, but specific to the 5 color ones, the S-AMOLED seems unaffected by it.
I'm basing that from my old AMOLED i9000 and Nexus S vs. the S-AMOLED on the S2
As for color accuracy, I like the more vivid color provided by the AMOLED than the LCD / S-LCD

Interesting stuff. My next phone gonna be LCD.
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magik300 said:
Interesting stuff. My next phone gonna be LCD.
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even after learning what they do to the LCD displays?
you will probably have to run your own tests to see which phone has a correct LCD display, or waiting until some one has done a Gamut color level review on it before getting one.
at least with AMOLED you know what to expect.

I will not go into fight any about this, but after using both AMOLED and LCD, I simply don't find LCD 'interesting'.
But if we really want to go deep into technical analysis, you will find that a AMOLED display is considered to be the best display commercially available now. Check Samsung's new OLED TV KN55S9C reviews. Every reviews (including consumer reports) have mentioned that this has the best picture quality available right now.

I am going to be honest here and put my hands up and say I was not aware OLED screens are still affected by burn-in - but it makes sense.
I think I am going to cancel my pre-order of the Note 3, things like this really put me off - I love my nexus 4 screen and I think I may now wait out the Nexus 5 which will in all likelihood have IPS.

My last 4 devices were all with Amoled S and N series and never had such issues.
You really have to stay a loooooong time on one screen position to then, only increase a chance of blueish burn-in......... I guess
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betoNL said:
My last 4 devices were all with Amoled S and N series and never had such issues.
You really have to stay a loooooong time on one screen position to then, only increase a chance of blueish burn-in......... I guess
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Yeah, screens have come a long way since even my galaxy nexus, which I didn't like it always looked greenish to me. But I played with a note 2 and that screen is great, the gs4 is even better, screens are largely a personal preference but give me true black any day

Interesting find. Gonna have to look for something to replace all the JellyBean blues on the new phone to ensure longevity. Tbh I haven't noticed anything on my current 1.5 yr old amoled phone or the 3 yr old phone before that. But I have noticed how much I enjoy the color, over saturated or not. An Apple genius bar friend had severe screen envy when he saw the size and colors lol.
Only downside has been viewability in sunlight to where I have to drag brightness all the way up to get a decent picture.

Good news for the reviewer! She can buy AMOLED again if she wants to. Starting with the SGS4 Samsung's moved to a new PenTile geometry called Diamond Pixels. In it, sub-pixels are sized differently based on their longevity. Blue is the least energy efficient (most likely to erode) and is now larger than red and green.
A high resolution screen shot of the Galaxy S4*(provided by Samsung) shows an interesting design and sub-pixel arrangement, which Samsung callsDiamond Pixels. First of all, the Red, Green, and Blue sub-pixels have very different sizes – Blue is by far the largest because it has the lowest efficiency, and Green is by far the smallest because it has the highest efficiency. The alternating Red and Blue sub-pixel PenTile arrangement discussed above leads to a 45 degree diagonal symmetry in the sub-pixel layout. Then, in order to maximize the sub-pixel packing and achieve the highest possible PPI, that leads to diamond rather than square or stripe shaped Red and Blue sub-pixels. But not for the Green sub-pixels, which are oval shaped because they are squeezed between two much larger and different sized Red and Blue sub-pixels. It’s display art…​
As for what display is best, that's easy. The one you like the best.

The chick in the video seems to like making videos about this very same topic every now and then, not sure why she's obsessing over this topic.
Erica move on, is this the only topic you could throw out there to actually sound like you're smart?
Who gives a hoot about the difference it's all a matter of preference and now let's move on to something else.
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Regardless of what the sales and marketing terms are, the simple fact is all current and future Samsung devices have made the switch to "Super AMOLED" based panels so do not concern yourself with any BLED burn-in. This so-called issue was addressed several generations ago when AMOLED was still under testing and Samsung is among the best when it comes to yield/performance.
With that said, both the Samsung and T-Mobile sites show the final NS3 specs, which includes the use of their "Super AMOLED Display".
All is good and here in San Diego, CA, both T-Mobile and Verizon retail stores are sticking with October 1st and 2nd (respectively) as the official release.
Scott
References:
http://www.samsung.com/us/register/samsung-mobile-unpacked-event-2013/
http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note-3.html

BarryH_GEG said:
Good news for the reviewer! She can buy AMOLED again if she wants to. Starting with the SGS4 Samsung's moved to a new PenTile geometry called Diamond Pixels. In it, sub-pixels are sized differently based on their longevity. Blue is the least energy efficient (most likely to erode) and is now larger than red and green.
A high resolution screen shot of the Galaxy S4*(provided by Samsung) shows an interesting design and sub-pixel arrangement, which Samsung callsDiamond Pixels. First of all, the Red, Green, and Blue sub-pixels have very different sizes – Blue is by far the largest because it has the lowest efficiency, and Green is by far the smallest because it has the highest efficiency. The alternating Red and Blue sub-pixel PenTile arrangement discussed above leads to a 45 degree diagonal symmetry in the sub-pixel layout. Then, in order to maximize the sub-pixel packing and achieve the highest possible PPI, that leads to diamond rather than square or stripe shaped Red and Blue sub-pixels. But not for the Green sub-pixels, which are oval shaped because they are squeezed between two much larger and different sized Red and Blue sub-pixels. It’s display art…​
As for what display is best, that's easy. The one you like the best.
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Gonna add this info tomorrow to the first post....
Nighty night

Transparent notification bars ftw
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I hope u guys really did understand her video.Even if LG over saturated in real life the s4's colors are still more saturated than the LG's even if the calibration on the s4 is about right.This is because of the wide gamut.She's pissed that LG over saturated so much not that the G2 is more saturated than the s4(the s4 is more and I compared them).AMOLED is new tech and even if it looks great with puchy colors maufacturers have way more work to do.They run hotter than LCD,they die earlier,blue pixel burn in,previously black clipping which is solved only on the s4 and note 3.Even power saving many talk of except your phone is completely black with black fonts, wallpaper,widget(lol u won't see anything) u can't save power on AMOLED.I just don't like it because of it's issues.Everyone has his opinion but don't say it's great or better than LCD just because your device has AMOLED.Tell the truth.AMOLED needs a breakthrough to really show it's power management and other qualities.The famous moto x doesn't blow the HTC one out of the water in terms of battery life even with all the power saving tech and AMOLED.(some LCDs OPPO find 5 and xperia z1+ z ultra have punchy blacks unless you turn off all the lights)

Well gn3 might be my first samoled device, but in all honesty I don't really give a damn since in about a year or max 2 I'll get a new device anyways. Disposable
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hackarchive said:
I hope u guys really did understand her video.Even if LG over saturated in real life the s4's colors are still more saturated than the LG's even if the calibration on the s4 is about right.This is because of the wide gamut.She's pissed that LG over saturated so much not that the G2 is more saturated than the s4(the s4 is more and I compared them).AMOLED is new tech and even if it looks great with puchy colors maufacturers have way more work to do.They run hotter than LCD,they die earlier,blue pixel burn in,previously black clipping which is solved only on the s4 and note 3.Even power saving many talk of except your phone is completely black with black fonts, wallpaper,widget(lol u won't see anything) u can't save power on AMOLED.I just don't like it because of it's issues.Everyone has his opinion but don't say it's great or better than LCD just because your device has AMOLED.Tell the truth.AMOLED needs a breakthrough to really show it's power management and other qualities.The famous moto x doesn't blow the HTC one out of the water in terms of battery life even with all the power saving tech and AMOLED.(some LCDs OPPO find 5 and xperia z1+ z ultra have punchy blacks unless you turn off all the lights)
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Who said saturation is bad? And when did wide colour gamut become a bad thing? Even with a wider gamut, AMOLED still can't cover full range of visible colour space. Even if someone pushes to Adobe RGB or NTSC colour space, I think its good.
AMOLED covers more green-yellow-cyan range. Remember that the eye is more sensitive to yellowish-green light than other colors. G2 is over-saturating the colours, but it can't show additional colours like AMOLED as it's inherently restricted to show just near sRGB space. Why restrict ourself to sRGB when it was designed for CRT monitors?? But the fact remains that AMOLED can show more colours compared to LCD. And that's a good thing.
Reviews have proved that the best available display right now is OLED display. Samsung's OLED TV KN55S9C is considered to have the best picture quality. Saying AMOLED is bad is pure non-sense.

A very irritating woman - Take with a pinch of salt

hackarchive said:
.AMOLED needs a breakthrough to really show it's power management and other qualities.The famous moto x doesn't blow the HTC one out of the water in terms of battery life even with all the power saving tech and AMOLED.(some LCDs OPPO find 5 and xperia z1+ z ultra have punchy blacks unless you turn off all the lights)
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LOL...There is no High-end device with better battery performance than the GNote2...Totally energy efficient and the screen is gorgeous....
Maybe the GNote3 will have better battery performance, but that remains to be seen ...
And I hope you really did understand the new PenTile geometry called Diamond Pixels thing, mentioned just a couple of posts before yours....
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hackarchive said:
Everyone has his opinion but don't say it's great or better than LCD just because your device has AMOLED.
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Here's my opinion. I could give a crap whether a device I want to purchase has AMOLED or LCD. All I want is a good high quality display. There are crappy LCD displays (there are tons of posts in the One and Z1 forums about display issues) and crappy AMOLED displays. Truthfully, on a 4.7-6" canvas the amount of energy devoted to examining nuances in displays is comical. AMOLED has far superior contrast, bolder colors, better reflectance, better viewing angles and uses less energy on dark colors. LCD produces truer colors (depending on OEM calibration choices), is brighter, and uses less energy on light colors. The hardest part of going from AMOLED to LCD for me is the drop in contrast and greyish blacks which are unavoidable. If the N3 had a high quality LCD display I'd be totally fine with it. More important than the display is what it's attached to and I happen to be happy with Samsung's products. I'm not buying a display; I'm buying the high-end mobile device it's a component of. And the displays in Sony and HTC's phones are all made by Sharp-Renasys or JDI anyway.
And as you ridicule AMOLED, ask yourself why Motorola (Google) used it in the Moto X which is the most important phone they've ever released.
Like LCD? Bully, buy a LCD-equipped phone. Like AMOLED, buy a phone that has it. If you're happy I'm happy for you.

Moto G 2015 Display

How is the display (in terms of color, contrast, gamut, brightness) aka quality in general?
I know that many complain about the resolution; but besides the resolution is the display good ? Feel free to compare it to other devices, even the Moto G2.
Feel free to link reviews that tested the display.

I was a Z2 & G3 user for almost a year and I really enjoy this 720p screen plus the feeling hand's on the device offer in this budget price, very comfortable for daily use

XMoDuLeSx said:
I was a Z2 & G3 user for almost a year and I really enjoy this 720p screen plus the feeling hand's on the device offer in this budget price, very comfortable for daily use
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So colour / gamut wise it's comparable to the LG G3?

@Techguy18 It can be,definitely the display is the best part of this phone (Y)

Issue with display
After using the moto g 3 for a week I realized that under direct sunlight or under very bright light falling directly on screen, the vertical lines are visible.I did not have such issue with my previous phone.Should I call for a replacement?

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@Techguy18 It can be,definitely the display is the best part of this phone (Y)
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Good to hear. Read some reviews that said the screen was dull and washed out, but they're probably used to OLED displays.

Anyone notice yellowish screen tint on xperia xz?

Theres a picture below comparing screen of my z3+ to xz. I notice a bit yellowish screen of xperia xz.

my display is white like it should be i think...u probably have screen issues and should ask sony whats going on and maybe they will replace the screen.i would take it to waranty.

i compared my XZ display against z5 and i can say that it is more brighter and it has more white-ish tone on the display...z3+ simply CAN'T have BETTER display then newer flagship phones(specaily the XZ)...its not an upgrade then LOL...i would try some restoring and repairing before sending it to waranty just for curosity... but i doubt it would help...just want to let u know my xperience and hope it helped u somehow. Cheers

I do know that my XZ color temperature isn't as cold/blue as my Z3 (D6616) was. I don't have any tools to test, but I believe my XZ is closer to the "proper" 6500K color temp, while my Z3 was like 9000K.
I could be wrong since I can't see yours in person, but could it be possible that your Z3+ has a very cold blue tint that you got used to, and it makes your XZ look yellow? I have a feeling that camera you used to take that picture adjusted its white balance to your Z3+.
I'm trying to take a picture of my Z3 next to my XZ to show an example, but my LG G6 camera can't seem to show what I mean. I did have this issue when I switched from a Nexus 4 to a Nexus 5. I got so used to the Nexus 4's cold blue tint, that I thought my Nexus 5 was yellow and defective. But after I got used to the color temperature of the Nexus 5, I couldn't believe how blue the Nexus 4 was. I've been a tint snob, display whore, and obsessed with white balance ever since.
Here's a picture of my Nexus 4 and 5 side by side. Even though the 5 has the correct white balance, it looks yellow because the camera adjusted the white balance to the 4.
Or maybe the screen on your XZ is in fact defective. I would take it to a mobile store and compare it to iPhones and maybe HTC devices, as these seem to have better white balance than most devices in my opinion.

The XZ does lean a bit more to the warmer color temperature than previous models, specially my Z3 and M4 Aqua, those have a very strong blue tint and I had to increase red and green in settings to compensate.
Can't you adjust the white balance in the display settings?
I have red and green on 0 and blue on 40. It seems to give the best result of white, compared to my PC monitor (IPS). If you go to 50 on blue, it starts getting a blue tint a bit.
If your screen is so yellow you can't even adjust it, then it's defective. Take it to the store and compare.
Keep in mind though, even with IPS, there can be some slight variations from unit to unit in color tint, but not much. It's more common with AMOLED.
Also it's difficult to tell for us via photos, because any camera will compensate at least a bit for the white balance and brightness.
Either way, your eye will get used to it if the screen is not actually defective, and a recommendation would always be to have the balance set leaning more to yellow than blue tint, it's much less straining to your eyes, and after a while it won't look "yellow" any more.
I experienced that when I got the new monitor, it appeared a bit yellow to me, but then my friend (video editor) tested it with one of those devices that tests color accuracy , contrast and white balance and saw that it was almost perfect, and my previous monitor had heavy blue tint that I got used to, which is bad.
I'd go to a store and compare it to one of the units there.

shilent said:
I do know that my XZ color temperature isn't as cold/blue as my Z3 (D6616) was. I don't have any tools to test, but I believe my XZ is closer to the "proper" 6500K color temp, while my Z3 was like 9000K.
I could be wrong since I can't see yours in person, but could it be possible that your Z3+ has a very cold blue tint that you got used to, and it makes your XZ look yellow? I have a feeling that camera you used to take that picture adjusted its white balance to your Z3+.
I'm trying to take a picture of my Z3 next to my XZ to show an example, but my LG G6 camera can't seem to show what I mean. I did have this issue when I switched from a Nexus 4 to a Nexus 5. I got so used to the Nexus 4's cold blue tint, that I thought my Nexus 5 was yellow and defective. But after I got used to the color temperature of the Nexus 5, I couldn't believe how blue the Nexus 4 was. I've been a tint snob, display whore, and obsessed with white balance ever since.
Here's a picture of my Nexus 4 and 5 side by side. Even though the 5 has the correct white balance, it looks yellow because the camera adjusted the white balance to the 4.
Or maybe the screen on your XZ is in fact defective. I would take it to a mobile store and compare it to iPhones and maybe HTC devices, as these seem to have better white balance than most devices in my opinion.
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Judging by this photo, it seems to me that you have night mode enabled.
Is it yellow during that white xperia bootanimation as well?
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Sorry, just now i've read the full text of your post xD

why are Sony xperia displays better than Most devices

you may find it crazy that i'm saying this especially when i refer to the Xperia xz1 but Sonys calibration is unlike anything i have ever seen have not seen the xz3 yet, and i always fall back too the xz1 i have compared it to the Surface pro 5 the Sony af8 oled tv the samsung galaxy s8+ the huawei mate 10 pro and the display getting closest is the af8 oled but even there i feel the colors are a Little dull in comparison, the tablet z4 gets close though, once i got the mate 10 pro almost right with the colors White suffered this doesn\t happen on the xz1, i prefer cold colors i always have i keep my xz1's color balance to 171 blue and screen mode to super vivid mode yet White does not suffer from this it still looks Bright vibrant White while colors look Amazing , if i try the same om for example the huawei mate 10 pro i get a strong blue White, if i compare to the samsung galaxy s8 which is supposed to be the superior display all i see is the s8+ being way too warm and dull in comparison even though screen mode is set to vibrant i mean see these samplepictures , are my Eyes or is my taste just different from everyone elses it makes it difficult to accept any display after this., an oled 4k tv that has the same perfect vibrant colors would be Amazing but not even the af8 oled can do that perfectly

Discussion: LG G7 screen - the best out there for white color

Just compared the G7 screen with: S10e, LG V40, Huawei Mate 20 Pro, P30 Pro, Iphone Xs Max, Xperia 10 and when it comes to reproduce the white color or max brightness, the G7 came up first. I would say second was the Xperia 10, but with not that much brightness.
Verry impressed, never thought that.
I also enebled comfort view on all phones and played with the adjustment bar for best results.
Also did some Hdr comparison with the V40 and I would say there is no more than 5-10% difference in color saturation in favor of the oled. It just competed very well with oleds.
One strange thing was that the black levels on the V40 seemed not that black for an oled, seemed like the G7 black. Weird.
I just think this display is maybe the best out there. Good job LG and I will miss this display on my next maybe G8 or V50.
This was my best comfort view settings.

Experiment no 2:
Today I have compared with:
S10e, S10+, P30 Pro and the results are that G7's screen is Number 1!
Next experiment with photos and maybe putting the flash on the s10+ambient sensor to trigger max brightness. But for whites and also color vibrance, G710 wins. Go and check for yourselfs.
Cheers ?!

Experiment no3: in hurry
LG G7 vs Huawei Mate 20 Pro and P30 Pro
Full brightness on all, blue filter on all. Best adjustment to match the pure white.
Photos are shot with P30pro and mate 20 pro
G7 destroys latests OLEDs from huawei.

Color temp is overkill for G7, ridicilous 9000K. Look at this graph https://www.anandtech.com/show/13039/the-lg-g7-review/4
I found best white for my eyes with this settings (other colors look fine). Expert: all in middle, night filter etc turned off

Siley said:
Color temp is overkill for G7, ridicilous 9000K. Look at this graph https://www.anandtech.com/show/13039/the-lg-g7-review/4
I found best white for my eyes with this settings (other colors look fine). Expert: all in middle, night filter etc turned off
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For me this is blueish. Best for me is auto color and comfort view around 75%.
But it seems that the display now is AI controlled and also color temp has been improved since Anand tech test. Also I don't trust these display tests with specialized hardware and software. Best sensor is the human eye.
I noticed that when I took photos of the display, the camera sensor cannot replicate it's original color. Also anandtech test is based on hardware. Best sensor is the human eye. Period. No other sensor can replicate accurate.

Inerent said:
Just compared the G7 screen with: S10e, LG V40, Huawei Mate 20 Pro, P30 Pro, Iphone Xs Max, Xperia 10 and when it comes to reproduce the white color or max brightness, the G7 came up first. I would say second was the Xperia 10, but with not that much brightness.
Verry impressed, never thought that.
I also enebled comfort view on all phones and played with the adjustment bar for best results.
Also did some Hdr comparison with the V40 and I would say there is no more than 5-10% difference in color saturation in favor of the oled. It just competed very well with oleds.
One strange thing was that the black levels on the V40 seemed not that black for an oled, seemed like the G7 black. Weird.
I just think this display is maybe the best out there. Good job LG and I will miss this display on my next maybe G8 or V50.
This was my best comfort view settings.
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I know v40 has purple ish display panel when it's showing black, which is better than lighter grey on v30. But is it worse than competitors?

Siley said:
Color temp is overkill for G7, ridicilous 9000K. Look at this graph https://www.anandtech.com/show/13039/the-lg-g7-review/4
I found best white for my eyes with this settings (other colors look fine). Expert: all in middle, night filter etc turned off
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I posted pics compared to Sony XZ2, and while XZ2 is way too blue in white balance department, next to G7 it looks professionally calibrated
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79431740&postcount=11