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Carrying Strap? Just confirming: the Desire has no Strap Hole for a Lanyard, right?

It's really annoying. The Hero's got it, and it was invaluable to me. saved my phone many a time.
I've been reading many reviews online re this lacking on the Nexus One as well, and users as well as editors citing Apple as starting the dumb trend to eliminate a strap connecting point as I am sure it would ruin steve's aesthetics. So why did HTC have to go follow this dumb new trend?
Does anyone know if any of the silicon cases set to come out will have at least the option for a carrying strap?

You know this was brought up at HoFo. We were talking about creating some sort of lanyard port on the iPhone itself. Maybe if case-mate got the hint and started producing cases....
Anywho, what could be done is get a thick gelli/silicone case and use a small tipped screw driver or even a safety pin to create 2 holes anywhere on the case.
That eBay seller (e-story) that I keep talking about, has Nexus One cases that have a built-in lanyard port. Unfortunately he hasn't started selling silicone cases yet for the Desire. Hopefully sometime in the next few weeks.
I posted a link earlier with a guy in Hong Kong who has started to sell a silicone case that can possibly be modified with the holes for a lanyard.

thanks for the reply. I already have "ruinified" my back cover by placing those self adhesive gripper strips on it so the phone doesn't slip out of my hands. It's way more slippery than the Hero -- which is funny, because so many review spoke of how the phone's materials had more of a grip feel to them... not so. Yes, some resistance vs slipperyness of polished plastic or aluminum, but not enough to be safe.
So that was "be safe not sorry" measure #1.
Measure 2 is: I ordered already a silicon gel case for the Desire. It starts shipping in 5 days. I have no idea the quality. But to me it's insurance at this point, since who knows how long til the market is developed withj accessories. quite amazing how unprepared the accessory market was. Not like this phone was a secret.
I ordered from here, since i am usa:
http://www.amzer.com/Amzer-Silicone-Skin-Jelly-Case-Black-P87961.htm
but found it here initially, a uk vendor for them:
http://www.fommy.co.uk/view-full-page.asp?divid=HTC&model=HTC+Desire&cat=Cases&skuno=87961
I am sure i must have seen it on one of these threads.
I will for sure be fashioning a carry strap one way or another, and how dumb for HTC to "delete" this usability design element... especially when the European Hero (NOT the ones you would have seen in the USA) has the most elegant design including its carry strap hole and method of securing. Just beautiful. I wonder if the Legend has a carry strap or did they abandon it there too...
redrazr7791 said:
You know this was brought up at HoFo. We were talking about creating some sort of lanyard port on the iPhone itself. Maybe if case-mate got the hint and started producing cases....
Anywho, what could be done is get a thick gelli/silicone case and use a small tipped screw driver or even a safety pin to create 2 holes anywhere on the case.
That eBay seller (e-story) that I keep talking about, has Nexus One cases that have a built-in lanyard port. Unfortunately he hasn't started selling silicone cases yet for the Desire. Hopefully sometime in the next few weeks.
I posted a link earlier with a guy in Hong Kong who has started to sell a silicone case that can possibly be modified with the holes for a lanyard.
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I do agree that it was sort of retarded to leave out the lanyard port. Even the MyTouch 3G had it
What you could do is also drill 2 little holes into the back-cover of the phone, line them up with the silicone skin and place 2 holes through the skin also. This way you have added security with the strap being through the back-cover and the skin.
I just did some searching on eBay and it seems that more sellers are starting to push out cases for the Desire. They look pretty good, especially since they cover the whole phone (buttons and trackpad), not just running around the border of the phone -
http://cgi.ebay.com/Blue-Silicone-S...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item414ef7eed5
http://cgi.ebay.com/Black-Silicone-..._MobilePhonesCasesPouches&hash=item4aa097dbda
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silicone-Case-L...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item414ef49799
Thing is...they are all located in Hong Kong

redrazr7791 said:
I do agree that it was sort of retarded to leave out the lanyard port. Even the MyTouch 3G had it
What you could do is also drill 2 little holes into the back-coveri of the phone, line them up with the silicone skin and place 2 holes through the skin also. This way you have added security with the strap being through the back-cover and the skin.
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That's an idea worth considering but of course 2 problems ... backs snap is itself not secure enough for holding weight of hand ... and the warranty void. I did buy 3rd party insurance from square trade which covers accidental damage incl dropping...
Still I would seek some more secure anchor method... If I had some spare time, I swear I would do this: I'd work my way through the corporate maze at HTC until I burrowed into someone in actual product design... and then I would pose the challenge to them from a purely hypothetical point of view about where and how this fish-line could be anchored.

redrazr7791 said:
I do agree that it was sort of retarded to leave out the lanyard port. Even the MyTouch 3G had it
What you could do is also drill 2 little holes into the back-cover of the phone, line them up with the silicone skin and place 2 holes through the skin also. This way you have added security with the strap being through the back-cover and the skin.
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The skin would have the advantage of keeping some extra pressure keeping the back on, with out this I would also be worried about the back pulling off. I would make the holes nearer the bottom because this edge is opposite the edge which is designed to be opened.
I've gone the Zag InvisibleSHIELD route, so I have no plans to fit a silicon skin, so I've had to find a different solution.
I found that I can loop the lanyard fixing chord around the sim in the phone, between the silver sim socket and the 'runner' about 5mm away on the left hand side of the sim. It makes it tight work to get the sim back in place, but it does seem to work. I was considering making a small hole on the right hand edge of the back panel to allow the mounting chord to pass through but now I don't think this is necessary as the back does clip into place with only the slightest bump.
The sim socket, which will now be taking the strain from the lanyard, is fixed very securely. When I first tried to insert the sim into the phone I didn't even realize the 'runner' was there and tried to slide the sim in over the runner and didn't manage to get the socket to pop out.

Spud, congratulations on a GREAT "Post #1" to XDA ---- one of the best examples of a "Post #1" I have seen here in years. I am really thankful you posted this, as I find this to be an essential accessory... One which to me reduces stress far more than any case or screen shield... Knowing I have the phone strapped to my wrist has always given me primary peace of mind for a device that is so precisely put together where one drop could dislodge any number of things, even if a case prevents a knick or scratch.
REQUEST: Could you get a camera that has macro-close-up focus, and take a few extreme close up pictures of your assembly? I have a good sense for what you mean, but nothing speaks like a picture. I was thinking of exploring this kind of route myself, trying to figure out a way similar to how the HERO's anchor point was designed so brilliantly.
I think new members have some restrictions on posting links, and I am guessing no file attachments either, so, would you consider please taking a full series of photos, cover on, cover off, the whole process... and then email me the pics? and then i can post them here, and this could help a lot of people.
You can email me at my user name here @ gmail dot com. Thank you for posting! And welcome to XDA-developers. How do you like your desire? Have you had a touchscreen phone before? If so, which one?
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The skin would have the advantage of keeping some extra pressure keeping the back on, with out this I would also be worried about the back pulling off. I would make the holes nearer the bottom because this edge is opposite the edge which is designed to be opened.
I've gone the Zag InvisibleSHIELD route, so I have no plans to fit a silicon skin, so I've had to find a different solution.
I found that I can loop the lanyard fixing chord around the sim in the phone, between the silver sim socket and the 'runner' about 5mm away on the left hand side of the sim. It makes it tight work to get the sim back in place, but it does seem to work. I was considering making a small hole on the right hand edge of the back panel to allow the mounting chord to pass through but now I don't think this is necessary as the back does clip into place with only the slightest bump.
The sim socket, which will now be taking the strain from the lanyard, is fixed very securely. When I first tried to insert the sim into the phone I didn't even realize the 'runner' was there and tried to slide the sim in over the runner and didn't manage to get the socket to pop out.
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Not recommending it, but have you thought about threading through the two holes for the front top "speaker"?

quicksite said:
REQUEST: Could you get a camera that has macro-close-up focus, and take a few extreme close up pictures of your assembly? I have a good sense for what you mean, but nothing speaks like a picture. I was thinking of exploring this kind of route myself, trying to figure out a way similar to how the HERO's anchor point was designed so brilliantly.
I think new members have some restrictions on posting links, and I am guessing no file attachments either, so, would you consider please taking a full series of photos, cover on, cover off, the whole process... and then email me the pics? and then i can post them here, and this could help a lot of people.
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Sorry, I can't run to a full set of photographs, but I hope the following will suffice.

Hmm. Don't really like that. Looks risky and deforms the case.

SpudULike said:
Sorry, I can't run to a full set of photographs, but I hope the following will suffice.
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That's pretty impressive.... I didn't check the inside of mine initially when you described it, and so before the pictures I was imagining that carry strap feeding down through the bottom of the cover, and I was wondering how that would work. So I actually didn't realize til I took the back of my Desire off that it's coming off the left side when looking at the screen, which is good placement ergonomically.
As for the engineering tensions and torques, I have no idea... I was trying to just imagine it in my head, and i applied force to the plastic sim card in the downward direction if the device were to slip from my hand... I can't evaluate but one thing's for sure, as you said, with your scenario of no case, this is, to me, a much better solution that praying no accidental dropping.
HTC really should have handled this (pun intended). Nice job! And thanks for the pics. I didn't know new registrants could post pics until x number of posts, but I guess you've shown otherwise, and that's a good thing.

al89nut said:
Not recommending it, but have you thought about threading through the two holes for the front top "speaker"?
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Well do you mean anchoring it at the top and draping over the back and hanging down that way?
I'm going to simulate what MAYBE you mean, and photograph it.. then post again and ask...

al89nut said:
Not recommending it, but have you thought about threading through the two holes for the front top "speaker"?
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Is this what you had in mind? This is just a "fictional dramatization".. Do not try this without adult supervision. But now that I see it, I wouldn't mind at all seeing 2 black threads at the top...
I guess when I get a silicon gel casing I won't need this solution, but i think it's also pretty good. Now if only someone can determine how & if the black-thread fishing line can be fished through the opening.... Oh, and if this wasn't what you had in mind, what WAS your idea?
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That was it, though as I said, I would not be sure that it would not deform the two holes or interfere with the sound quality.
There is another better option - if you take the back off there are two torx screws in the top left and the top right (from the back) locations. I should imagine that if loosened, something could be looped around the top right one and then it could be tightened back up. Whether that loop would be the lanyard or a connecting piece of strong nylon I don't know. If you really want to go to town, you could probably try to cut a tiny tiny nick so it could come through the back cover where the notch is already cut to let you pry the back off. That's my best suggestion.

Attaching a strap
I have threaded fishing line through 4 of the holes in the speaker thingy on the top back and made a small loop. I have attached my lanyard strap to that and it has worked ok so far.

tirc83 said:
I have threaded fishing line through 4 of the holes in the speaker thingy on the top back and made a small loop. I have attached my lanyard strap to that and it has worked ok so far.
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Oh, i would LOVE to see a photo! so cool.
Meanwhile, I have created a lanyard carry strap using a silicon case, punched a needle sized hole through and attached to a small smooth edged thin "plate" about the dimensions of an SD card.
I have been meaning to post my video on this. It is awesome.
But I and OTHERS would love to see your solution in pictures. Could you take some please? and if possible take close up macro shots right at the speaker grill with good lighting shining right in there, maybe a flashlight, so that we can see what IS or is not being obstructed..... the big worry was that fishing a line thru there would puncture the speaker itself.
So could you describe what you discovered?
thank you! great job!

Pics of fishing line method
quicksite said:
Oh, i would LOVE to see a photo! so cool.
thank you! great job!
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OK here are three pics of the finished article. I just removed the back cover, threaded through some fishing line and tied a small loop. I was then able to use this loop as an anchor for the strap.

Nice, but I would really, really worry that the back cover will come off. Better if you can secure it to some of the screws inside the Desire.

tirc83 said:
OK here are three pics of the finished article. I just removed the back cover, threaded through some fishing line and tied a small loop. I was then able to use this loop as an anchor for the strap.
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Oh, I see now, I hadn't noticed -- you fed thru the BACK cover speaker grill.... When i first read i thought you had created the solution i made the video simulation about, which was afixing the lanyard fishing line around and behind the FRONT speaker grill -- which is why i mentioned there was fear about tearing into the speaker.
Well you saw the other person's solution, right, where he attached the lanyard to the micro SD card cage inside and send the line out the side. Some people liked that conceot, some didn't.
Okay, i have to post my pics. I have a 50-photo sequence of very detailed extreme close-ups of creating a lanyard strap for use with a silicon casing. It's practically foolproof. I say practically, because there are always ways to be so reckless beyond what any guardrails on a mountain roadway will ever do to protect you and your car from tumbling over the edge and over the mountain
I'd say the concerns in this case are correct... With the attchment point being just the back cover; I'm afraid that is not reliable enough to risk a $550 device's safety on.
I have not reviewing this thread, so not sure if it was on this one or another one where someone talked about using one of thecasing screws of the internal phone device.... though i think these void your warranty.
(time for me to say again: why oh why oh why HTC, why did you blindly follow Apple's iPhone BAD DESIGN PHILOSOPHY and do away with this small little item that protects a $500-$550 device? The design of the HERO *had* the carry strap hook, and it was brilliant and elegantly designed... sheesh !)

Can they tell if you loosen a screw a little?

Replacement phone slider

My phone broke and I just received a replacement . I will skip the horror story with that process. Suffice to say I don't want to go through that again but the replacement phone has a real loss slide which opens too easily and won't stay open when in landscape and using the keyboard.
I live a an hour from a repair store and was wondering if this is an adjustment that can be made in the store...I don't want to have to get a replacement,

Put a protective case on it. Wont slide as easily. The black one sprint sells is good.

trsix said:
Put a protective case on it. Wont slide as easily. The black one sprint sells is good.
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That's actually a good idea . Because the alternative involves opening up the phone, and tightening down the tabs. Not a fun task . Also time consuming.

prboy1969 said:
That's actually a good idea . Because the alternative involves opening up the phone, and tightening down the tabs. Not a fun task . Also time consuming.
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I was wondering if it was possible to easily tighten the keyboard up, but I guess not. Slider's are the only phones I haven't taken apart and fixed, I'm too scared that I'm gonna ruin it and have two parts and no phone lol.. Still waiting on another case from Amazon, until then guess I'll have to hold it horizontal to use the keyboard.

Best Buy also has a clear acrylic case that I've been using that works really well. I like it more than other cases because the top part has a solid line "tab" all the way across instead of the two small ones on the corners so there's less of a chance that you break a tab off on an end and no longer have your front face.
I don't think theirs comes with a holster though. I'm still using the black holster i got from a previous case.

Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 book cover case review with wake and sleep mode

Im really liking the wake and sleep feature on the Galaxy Note 8. This is a nice feature found on the iPad Mini and the Kindle Fire HD tablets.
http://youtu.be/3A8rtSead0I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A8rtSead0I&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Got the book cover case and really like the sleep and wake feature of it

To anyone who picked one up, how does it feel in terms of bulk? Also, when the cover is folded over, does it lay flush with the spine or does the flap stick out?

Juvenall said:
To anyone who picked one up, how does it feel in terms of bulk? Also, when the cover is folded over, does it lay flush with the spine or does the flap stick out?
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It is very thin, as thin as my nexus 4, and feels like a father compared to my original xoom
the cover is just like the s3 flip cover but it snaps on the back instead of replacing the battery cover
and it triggers auto on and off like the ipad smart cover

Caved in and picked up the cover on the way home today. Some initial thoughts:
1) The case adds no real bulk to the device itself. The backplate and the screen flap are both super thin, so even when folded over, it's doable for someone like me who hates cases.
2) Because its all so thin, however, it does feel sorta cheap. If this suffers from the same build issues I've read the S3 version has, I don't have high hopes that it's going to last long.
3) The screen on/off thing is awesome. The sensor part of this is actually along the spine, not the edge of the flap. Not a complaint, just an observation.
4) When folded over, there is a bit of a "lip" around the spine. I can't say I love this, but it doesn't really impact the way I hold the device.
5) The "stand" feature is alright and seems stable enough as long as you use it in the single position it was designed for. I do with it had a few more angle options.
Verdict? Meh. It's not a bad case, and I don't intend to return mine, but had I been given the opportunity to play with one before, I don't think I would have spent the extra $50. At half that price, it wouldn't change my opinion, but I'd be far less disappointed.

I have the book cover for my 8.0 and it is not very heavy, acts like a stand and turns the Note on and off when I open and close it. Very convenient. Got mine on Amazon for $5.99. Thought I would give it a try for that amount . So far very happy with it.

rfb813 said:
I have the book cover for my 8.0 and it is not very heavy, acts like a stand and turns the Note on and off when I open and close it. Very convenient. Got mine on Amazon for $5.99. Thought I would give it a try for that amount . So far very happy with it.
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The only one I see on Amazon for that price is the IVSO version. What I hate about those cases is how you actually have to put the tablet inside and wraps around the front. The official book cover simply snaps onto the back of the Note 8.

Juvenall said:
The only one I see on Amazon for that price is the IVSO version. What I hate about those cases is how you actually have to put the tablet inside and wraps around the front. The official book cover simply snaps onto the back of the Note 8.
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Here's what I bought:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B4BEAM8/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

rfb813 said:
Here's what I bought:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B4BEAM8/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Ahh, right on. Same sort of issue for me with the case covering the bezel, but you should post up a quick review thread and a couple of pictures.

rfb813 said:
Here's what I bought:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B4BEAM8/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I bought that same cover and also bought a similar one:
http://www.amazon.com/Dealgadgets-S...&qid=1366425979&sr=8-2&keywords=Galaxy+note+8
They both look essentially the same and add about the same bulk.
Major difference is that the Moko cover has auto wake, soft inside material, hand holder, and the pen holder doesn't interfere with IR. But it reeks! I mean it smells so bad I couldn't keep it in the same room with me. I left it outside overnight and it is still off gassing.
The Dealgadget cover has no weird smell. But also no wake function, no softer inside material, no hand holder. The pen holder is in a better location except if you plan to use the IR function. It is on the side of the tablet and I found it interferes with the IR.
So I ended up ordering the Samsung cover from this site. Since its coming from Hong Kong it will probably take a couple of weeks to get it. But I can't justify spending $50 for a cover. (Even though I probably will have spent close to $50 before I find one I like).
http://dx-box.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?cat=364&q=Galaxy+Note+8.0
I never purchased from this site before so I can't vouch for them yet.
I also have the upcoming Poetic case on order since its only $5. But it's not due to ship till May.

good one
hi budy go to your level best and may astonished to the forums:good:

When looking for some case reviews I stumbled over http://galaxynote8cases.com/ and they actually seem to have some good reviews. The only thing that is a real pain with the Note 8 is that it's tough to find any accessories for it.

I just got the white book case cover, its perfect for people who are careful with their electronics but like that extra layer to prevent scratches. Adds virtually zero weight.

tweak. said:
I just got the white book case cover, its perfect for people who are careful with their electronics but like that extra layer to prevent scratches. Adds virtually zero weight.
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Thats the big selling point for me here. The absolute lack of bulk on this is awesome. I only wish this had two more features:
1) A magnetic hold when the front flap is covering the screen.
2) Another magnetic hold for the flap when its folded over the back.
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There is a slight hold on the front side, as to not make it appear flimsy. When you flip it around back it "gives" a bit easier to fit snugly. Hard to explain, but clearly well designed.

Where are people buying this case, i cant find it anywhere.

The Book Cover Case is available in the US at local Best Buy, Staples and Office Depot. The only color is white, but the other colors will be available shortly.
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Where are people buying this case, i cant find it anywhere.
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got mine at best buy, it was the only one left in stock.

My Best Buy had black & white to choose from.

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My Best Buy had black & white to choose from.
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wish i could have gotten black. i have friends that have the white cover on their sIII's and they get very dirty here in egypt, but i had to get something and white was the only choice.

Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 Case

Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 Case

Where did you buy yours?
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little rant...
What really annoys me about this and many cases is the lack of thought around the camera on the back. They leave a slot for it on the back peice of the case which is great, but when you open it up to actually take a photo, you need to hold the case like an open book as there isnt a slot on the front peice. I dont intend on using the camera much but having to hold the front flap out of the way of the lens while trying to get composition, focus and release the shutter is a pain in the bum! If I could flip the front all the way round to the back and hold it flush with the back, that would be far more convenient.

hertsjoatmon said:
little rant...
What really annoys me about this and many cases is the lack of thought around the camera on the back. They leave a slot for it on the back peice of the case which is great, but when you open it up to actually take a photo, you need to hold the case like an open book as there isnt a slot on the front peice. I dont intend on using the camera much but having to hold the front flap out of the way of the lens while trying to get composition, focus and release the shutter is a pain in the bum! If I could flip the front all the way round to the back and hold it flush with the back, that would be far more convenient.
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+1!
What also bothers me a little is the slit in the front flap of the case... for US owners, it looks like a mistake since we don't have that speaker there. Other than that, very happy with the quality, low profile and details - rubber footings for landscape upright position, magnet to hold front flap as prop in "keyboard" mode. A little expensive but I did the round about with case buying with the tab 10.1 and ultimately liked the official book case most.
Cases are available at BestBuy and B&H.

Picked one up at Best Buy last night. Absolutely prefer this over the Moko i just got. Only thing missing compared to other cases is a loop for a larger stylus and it's not heavy enough where it needs a handstrap.
I don't care about a camera hole on the front flap (to take pictures when the flap is folded over) as rear camera on this is more vestigial to my tablet use.
I do have issues with trying to stand it up the tall way with the cover - it sometimes wont hold the stand form and flips the tablet down.
This may get easier as it breaks in. There is no clasp magnetic or otherwise that holds the screen cover closed so it will fly open at times.
The tablet is protected on 3 corners (except the one that holds the stylus, obviously), completely covers the plastic back except for camera hole and front flap is thin but should protect the screen well enough in a bag. I like the clean design and it does raise the "premium" feel of the tablet in hand by covering up all the plastic.
I think if you care about adding the least bulk to the unit while still having a means of protecting it a bit, I think it does well.
BTW, if you had the 7.7 and the OEM cover for that, this cover is almost exactly like it - except this front flap is even thinner than the one on that one and can fold to help it stand. The 7.7 form fitting case that Samsung made could only stand by reversing the case flap and it would always fall over.

I bought it from Best Buy as well, it's not my first choice of cases, but it's probably the best out there now. Just too expensive, but I need protection for this unit. I'm hoping Seidio makes a case but I don't think this tablet will sell that well. I hope I'm wrong but it's fairly expensive. I think it is worth it but I have terrible judgment and love electronics.
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Just curious, what colors are people getting? I picked up a white one at BB, but thinking about exchanging it for the black...

Every portable device I've owned since my first Walkman, with the exception of my 3rd gen iPod in 2004, has been black, so the white device and matching white case is a welcome change for me.
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I couldn't take it anymore and exchanged for the black, lol. The all-white look was burning my eyes.

Picked this up today and it's going back. I do like how thin it is, but I notice the cover has a habit of bowing just enough to wake up the tablet and it's just close enough that it keeps waking it up. Case would be fine without the sleep/wake feature. Anyone know of a good knockoff without the magnet?
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ExploreMN said:
Case would be fine without the sleep/wake feature. Anyone know of a good knockoff without the magnet?
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You might like the STM Cape. It is a bit different, but appears to be very good quality, and it is less expensive and fairly light weight (judging by specs as I don't have one yet):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251888
I asked them and they confirmed it does not come with a magnet for wake/sleep. Personally that has disappointed me, but you provide a good example of where it can be a good thing to not have wake/sleep.
I've asked STM a few more questions that I'm waiting to hear back on, including what kind of padding is embedded in the front cover. Something that has concerned me about the official Samsung Book Cover is that the front cover seems so thin that I wonder how much protection it would really provide (particularly from any impact). The STM Cape appears to have some kind of stiff material (padding?) in between the outer layer and the soft inner lining. I'll post in the Cape thread whenever I hear back about that.

pluginalong said:
You might like the STM Cape. It is a bit different, but appears to be very good quality, and it is less expensive and fairly light weight (judging by specs as I don't have one yet):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251888
I asked them and they confirmed it does not come with a magnet for wake/sleep. Personally that has disappointed me, but you provide a good example of where it can be a good thing to not have wake/sleep.
I've asked STM a few more questions that I'm waiting to hear back on, including what kind of padding is embedded in the front cover. Something that has concerned me about the official Samsung Book Cover is that the front cover seems so thin that I wonder how much protection it would really provide (particularly from any impact). The STM Cape appears to have some kind of stiff material (padding?) in between the outer layer and the soft inner lining. I'll post in the Cape thread whenever I hear back about that.
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Thanks, I'll check it out. I don't mind thin. I never do anything that would damage a device like a phone or tablet anyway. Mostly I just want it for scratch protection since it could slide around in my briefcase and what-not.

I'm ordering this case from ebay. Looks more stable then samsung case.
KLD-Smart-Wake-UP-Flip-PU-Leather-Case-Cover-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-8-0-N5100-N5110
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scopidoo said:
I'm ordering this case from ebay. Looks more stable then samsung case. KLD-Smart-Wake-UP-Flip-PU-Leather-Case-Cover-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-8-0-N5100-N5110
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If you haven't already ordered I'd recommend having a look at the following thread that was a bit negative about the KLD:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251300
The MoKo Ultra Slim Lightweight Smart-shell Stand Case mentioned in that same thread sounds more promising (in my opinion).

I have just ordered this one from ebay:
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121107475861
(I cannot post links yet, you'll need to copy and paste in your web browser)
It is cheap and looks slim and similar to the KLD one and it has a magnetic tab to keep it securely closed.
According to the description it supports "auto sleep and wake up when close and open" but I am not sure if I believe it. I can always open a dispute if it is not true

pluginalong said:
If you haven't already ordered I'd recommend having a look at the following thread that was a bit negative about the KLD:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251300
The MoKo Ultra Slim Lightweight Smart-shell Stand Case mentioned in that same thread sounds more promising (in my opinion).
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This does look like a winner. Not extremely please about the Samsung case, regarding the inability to stand it up or keep the flap closed.
If you ordered this let us know how it goes.

OneMoreBrick said:
This does look like a winner. Not extremely please about the Samsung case, regarding the inability to stand it up or keep the flap closed.
If you ordered this let us know how it goes.
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Here's a helpful review:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270264

Anybody try the IVSO bluetooth keyboard cover?
http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Key...&keywords=galaxy+note+8.0+keyboard+case+cover

drexappeal said:
Anybody try the IVSO bluetooth keyboard cover?
http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Key...&keywords=galaxy+note+8.0+keyboard+case+cover
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I have not, but that is an intriguing product. I wonder if you might get a sense of the quality by looking at the reviews for the below version which I would guess uses the same keyboard (but with a different enclosure)?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio/dp/B00BH1HI4M/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_1

pluginalong said:
I have not, but that is an intriguing product. I wonder if you might get a sense of the quality by looking at the reviews for the below version which I would guess uses the same keyboard (but with a different enclosure)?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio/dp/B00BH1HI4M/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_1
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I read some reviews on the Note 10.1 version and they are mixed:
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Blue...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
I'll just keep it in consideration, unless someone on the forums actually purchases and tries it out.

KLD Smart Flip Review [With Pics- UPDATE AFTER USE]

I received the KLD case off ebay not too long ago. The case came about a week after I placed an order (this includes weekend days). So first things first, the case is well made. I remember someone had expressed that the back stitching may be of concern but I looked at it and it looks like it will hold up just fine with moderate use.
I mentioned in my other review thread that this case is a major disappointment. The reason being is because I bought the case thinking it would have the auto wake/sleep feature. This case does NOT support this feature. Because of the lack of magnets in this case, it leads to a second major disappointment. The cover even when closed will flap around if you were to have it in your bag.
Because it is PU leather, it does smell VERY plastic like.
Finally, I chose to have the white option, if you take a look at the link, you will see that its a very pure white color. However, the cover I received is beige NOT white at all.
In conclusion, do I like this case? No, not at all. I can't recommend it to anyone. This is a cheaper alternative to the Samsung Book Cover (though I don't know if the official book cover supports the wake/sleep feature).
Pros
-Slim
-Nice cut outs (look at pics below)
-Not too expensive- I paid only $16.50 (free shipping)
Cons
-Does NOT have wake/sleep feature
-Cover does NOT stay in place because of the lack of magnets
-Bad smell even after leaving it in the open for 3 days
-The case I bought is WHITE, this case is clearly BEIGE
I give the case a 4/10. The quality is great but the lack of features that many other cases have for a cheaper price hampers it's overall rating.
Finally my search for a perfect slim case isn't over- I bought yet another case from Moko- that looks great. I'll post up yet another review when it's out. Check it out here! :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C8T7I7Y/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Update in Post #18- 3 New Pics to show how it is after a week of use.

Thanks for sharing this great review! It is too bad the KDL wasn't very good after all. And I'm surprised it did not support wake/sleep.
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Finally my search for a perfect slim case isn't over- I bought yet another case from Moko- that looks great. I'll post up yet another review when it's out.
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That does look really promising! It clearly has a magnetic closure and uses magnets to hold the stand in place. And I like the broad assortment of colors.
A few other observations (about the MoKo Ultra Slim Lightweight Smart-shell Stand Case), just from looking at the pics, etc. on Amazon:
It appears that the shell is a bit thicker than other cases I've considered. In fact, it seems from the pictures like the shell is thick enough that the camera lens is actually recessed (instead of sticking out); I'm not 100% certain as it could just be an unintentional optical illusion. But if the camera lens is recessed that could be nice for protecting the lens a little bit. On the other hand though I do wonder about added weight and how that will feel (ie, if it will be noticeably heavier?). The Galaxy Note 8 weighs 11.7 ounces (338g) and I believe the official Samsung Book Cover weighs 3.2 ounces (90.72g), which makes for 14.9 ounces total (just shy of a 1lb, which seems like a decently light amount). The Amazon page indicates a weight of the MoKo at 5oz, which (if correct) is just a little heavier than the Samsung case, so hopefully not enough to be noticeable.
I don't see any mention of wake/sleep being supported. But I know you mentioned the other Moko case you tried did support wake/sleep, so hopefully this one does too!
I wonder how well the PU leather is going to hold up to folding the front cover flat against the back. It seems that would put a bit of stress on the part that will be bending around the case so I wouldn't be surprised to see cracking start rather quickly in that area (depending on the quality).
I just noticed in one of the pictures (the one for the white color, where a hand is holding the case in the air, demonstrating the magnets holding the stand in a triangle) that the GN8 is popping out of the case a little (in the bottom right of the picture). Hopefully that was just an oversight on their part as they were swapping out cases for the pictures, and not actually indicative of a loose fit. Pictures of the other colors appear to be fitting snugly in those same poses.
I look forward to your next review! I think I'm down to considering the above Moko and the Poetic Slimline (mentioned by someone else). I'll keep my fingers crossed that this Moko will be significantly better than the other one you reviewed! :fingers-crossed:

Hey pluginalong I actually contacted the seller before purchasing, they said they support the sleep/wake function. It won't be shipping till next week but my current Moko case should hold till then
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JokeZony0u said:
Hey pluginalong I actually contacted the seller before purchasing, they said they support the sleep/wake function.
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Hey, that's great to hear--this case really sounds promising!

I have one of these as well. I got a light blue one. I really like it except for the lack of magnets. I WANT sleep wake and would like for it to stay in place. Also I found that if I put it in my bag and it is kind of full it will turn the screen on and run the battery down.

Thats total crap if sellers are saying these things are "smart wake" when they aren't. I was hoping mine would arrive soon, but if it isn't going to work then looks like I'll be looking elsewhere.
Paypal dispute here I come! Lol
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Yea it really is. The sellers are also refusing to refund me. I'm still in the middle of the dispute
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JokeZony0u said:
Yea it really is. The sellers are also refusing to refund me. I'm still in the middle of the dispute
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Wow, that really sucks man! It is kind of mind-blowing that they would fight it when they clearly advertise the product as having a feature that it obviously lacks. I hope things work out for you!

I guess the only to do is check your consumer law...if you are going through paypal hammer home that it is misleading or deceptive. You should be ok though. Good luck
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Bought KLD Also...
and it is a major disappointment - totally agree with OP. But, does anyone know exactly where the magnet should go? It should be possible to attach a slim, rubberized magnetic on the case in a discrete manner so as not to make the case totally ugly but yet turn on the Note?

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But, does anyone know exactly where the magnet should go?
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I think from some videos I saw (a few weeks ago) of the official Samsung Book Cover case that it seemed like the magnet must be somewhere on the left side as the wake/sleep seemed to be triggered by movement on the left side as opposed to the right side being lifted (which perhaps might be done in order avoid errant wake/sleep events since the right side can slide around some on some cases?). My guess is that the magnet would be somewhere within the bezel area and not under the screen proper. The reason being is that the Wacom technology works in part through electromagnetic fields (if I'm remembering correctly) and I would imagine that a wake/sleep magnet would somehow complicate that. So if you have a magnet to experiment with you could try running it around the bezel (starting with the left side) and see if you can trigger the wake/sleep. If it were me I'd start in the middle of the left bezel (when in portrait orientation).
If you don't have a magnet on hand you could also try various metal objects that are capable of carrying a magnetic charge as some technology works by responding the disruption/change of a magnetic field, which doesn't actually require another magnet, but just an object with enough of a hint of its own natural field to cause a change (I believe this is how some stoplights work here in the US, where there are wires in the ground to notify the stoplight a car is waiting, because the car disrupts/changes the electromagnetic field of the wire). I'm not totally sure if this principal can work on this small of a scale or not, but it could be worth a shot for some limited experiments.

docfreed said:
But, does anyone know exactly where the magnet should go?
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Check out the following post and the rest of that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40708374&postcount=6
Looks like my hunches were incorrect.

I have just ordered this one from ebay:
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121107475861
(I cannot post links yet, you'll need to copy and paste in your web browser)
It is cheap and looks slim and similar to the KLD one and it has a magnetic tab to keep it securely closed.
According to the description it supports "auto sleep and wake up when close and open" but I am not sure if I believe it. I can always open a dispute if it is not true

griguolcomerranas said:
I have just ordered this one from ebay:
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121107475861
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Interesting. I'll be curious to hear how it turns out.

pluginalong said:
Interesting. I'll be curious to hear how it turns out.
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Sure, I will post my comments once I receive it.
Usually it takes around 2 weeks for the packets from Hong Kong

damn i just ordered this case thinking it had the smart sleep wakeup feature

melvill said:
damn i just ordered this case thinking it had the smart sleep wakeup feature
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Yea I thought so too when I ordered. If it's the KLD you ordered, I can definitely confirm that it doesn't support that function. I FINALLY got my sale disputed

Update
Even though I didn't like this case, I wanted to use it because it was slim. So while I waited for the Moko Shell (which I use now) I used the KLD everday for a solid week.
3 more things I've noticed that makes it even worse!
1- extended use with the cover as a stand eventually makes the cover pop up and as far as I've seen, it hasn't been able to flatten back out properly
2- Because this case lacks the sleep/wake function, you have to turn on the tablet with either the power button (or home). Unfortunately, I guess KLD really wanted to add that protection there- so there's a bezel above the power button- but this makes pressing the volume & power button a lot more difficult!
3- Finally, folding the cover back is also a problem. The stitching for the cover looks nice but when it's folded, it makes the tablet poof up (notice the rather big gap in the folded area- not present on other cases). Writing on the tablet with the cover folded back causes a "bouncy" feel.
Check out the pics to see what I'm talking about

JokeZony0u said:
3 more things I've noticed that makes it even worse!
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Check out the pics to see what I'm talking about
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Thanks for the additional followup and pics! All 3 of those things are very helpful to know!

Unfortunately, I ordered the KLD case a few days before reading this thread. It seems nice enough. Its the style I like. But I only popped my Note in and out of it. I didn't use it for any length of time. I had also ordered a Rock Mix case and that's what I'm using. It does have sleep/wake function. I filed a complaint with the KLD seller and he initially offered a full refund if I sent the case back (with him paying shipping) or $5.00 refund. He then sent another offer to refund me 100% and let me keep the case if I gave him positive feedback. I accidently accepted the $5.00 offer. That's fine though because I wanted to keep the case. It's stored away as a backup.