how does case manufacturer release a case so close to the release date? - Galaxy Note 4 Accessories

Do case manufacturer get the phone before release date so that they can design the case or what?

Depending on the OEM, they are provided one or more of the following:
Measurements
A blank model (most common from my understanding so they can use it for mold making)
A working late prototype model (this is also what is provided to wireless carriers for evaluation)

iamaven said:
Depending on the OEM, they are provided one or more of the following:
Measurements
A blank model (most common from my understanding so they can use it for mold making)
A working late prototype model (this is also what is provided to wireless carriers for evaluation)
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And those that don't wait often make basic errors. Piel Frama's LG G3 cut out case does not work properly with Quick circle functions.

Actually they are sent the exact dimensions via "Solid Works."
So basically since most cases are designed with Solid Works, all the case manufacturer needs are the dimensions and then violla....done deal.
kuromusha38 said:
Do case manufacturer get the phone before release date so that they can design the case or what?
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[Q]Which batch of HTC ONE S is with chipping issue?

Hello everyone.
I gust open this thread to know which phone is with chipping issue.
Please post your first 5 digits of your serial number and you will help us to know what phone to pick up.
i dont think there is a specific batch of phones. I think its the manufacturing process that is causing it. All first sold phones have a S/N of 23 in the front, but who is to say if the first 24s are not going to have the same issue?
For all its worth mine is SH23MW
The black ones are the ones that chip. The grey does not.
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joshnichols189 said:
The black ones are the ones that chip. The grey does not.
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I think that the black ones are OK but must include "24" in the serial number.That's mean that is batch from appril....and should be without chipping issue.
How do you know that? Do you have ang specific HTC info?
Please people if you don't have robust information don't post speculations. It just creates rumors
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vasp3690 said:
How do you know that? Do you have ang specific HTC info?
Please people if you don't have robust information don't post speculations. It just creates rumors
sent with HTC1S
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I do not know that.I'm just thinking that in the firs bach from march there are a lot of defective handsets(see this threat).And also think that from april still have not many complaints....witch means that they are better than the older ones from march.
b_ignatov said:
I do not know that.I'm just thinking that in the firs bach from march there are a lot of defective handsets(see this threat).And also think that from april still have not many complaints....witch means that they are better than the older ones from march.
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The march batch was the first batch anyway. Nobody knows if the April one will be better or not. Also a lot of current users use a case for the phone and therefore chipping is not happening because of that.
The only way to be sure that the April batch is better is if HTC announces it
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You really shouldn't post those speculations.. there are people out there reading this, not thinking themselves and so taking it for real. Actually I've read that there are already "24"-SNs with chipping out there (of course no garantueed information).
Besides: Why should early 24's be free of issues? HTC impossibly was able to fix the production process immediately in early April.
b_ignatov said:
I think that the black ones are OK but must include "24" in the serial number.That's mean that is batch from appril....and should be without chipping issue.
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False. My SN begins with HT242W. I am exchanging it with Expansys because of a chipped finish.
kyuubi_ac said:
You really shouldn't post those speculations.. there are people out there reading this, not thinking themselves and so taking it for real. Actually I've read that there are already "24"-SNs with chipping out there (of course no garantueed information).
Besides: Why should early 24's be free of issues? HTC impossibly was able to fix the production process immediately in early April.
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This.
I just received a replacement for a handset with the chipping issue from buymobilephones.net in the UK and it is S/N SH23MW.
Upon opening it had the same chips around the USB port that developed on the original handset.
Back to square one. -angry face-
The grey ones won't have that chipping issue since it is not processed with micro-arc oxidation technology. The grey ones are only made of aluminum and they come with the blue camera ring around the camera.
The black ones with red rings on the camera lens are the ones that were processed with micro-arc oxidation. I've heard somewhere that some later replacement models came with no chipping issues. Just keep sending back the ones with chipping issues.
I also noticed that even though HTC announced that the micro-arc oxidation process would make the casing up to 5x as strong as ordinary coatings/materials, it is NOT scratch proof and just like a standard aluminum case, it would scratch easily.
It's only the look and feel that sets it apart from an ordinary coating/material. We still need cases for it...
gjj1056 said:
I also noticed that even though HTC announced that the micro-arc oxidation process would make the casing up to 5x as strong as ordinary coatings/materials, it is NOT scratch proof and just like a standard aluminum case, it would scratch easily.
It's only the look and feel that sets it apart from an ordinary coating/material. We still need cases for it...
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Well HTC did not claim that the MAO is scratch resistent or indestructible, and they stated this recently. But in their beautiful MAO-spot they say that people for first time won't need cases. That statement was, what atually totally catched my attention for the phone sice I hate cases and deny using them (I didn't buy those outdoor mobiles with ugly ruber cases some years ago either).
I already decide to get the grey one and I will not have any fears about chipping.HTC did nothing about it....still lot of complains even from the new batch starting with 24.

			
				
chic.geek said:
False. My SN begins with HT242W. I am exchanging it with Expansys because of a chipped finish.
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But it should be at least 24T, right? Like in the post below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27108587&postcount=853
I'm following that thread to see if his HOS chips. As 'touch of jobo' stated here, it's still ok!

[Q] New Zerolemon Case/Battery?

Hey guys,
Today I noticed Zerolemon had a new case listed:
http://zerolemon.com/product/zerole...00mah-tricell-extended-battery-nfc-belt-clip/ It looks like it is supposed to come with that new case and a new battery. It appears slightly slimmer. There's also a opening for the speaker on the back, which i think is cool. I'm not sure if there's any other improvements.
However, when you click the link to order it on Amazon, it takes you to an incorrect page for this case: http://zerolemon.com/product/zerolemon-samsung-galaxy-s5-tricell-8500mah-extended-battery/
In fact, the link to order it on amazon for both lead here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LMJJOD2 This is the incorrect case, it is referring to their "older" model case. You can tell because it doesn't feature that new speaker opening.
Does anyone know where to find this new case/battery? For the life of me, I can't find it. I would contact Zerolemon on this issue, but it appears they require you provide an order ID. I obviously don't have one because I can't order the product that is listed. Or am I having some sort of misunderstanding?
It looks like its the same size. I kind of has to be to fit the 8500 mah battery in there. Neat that it has an opening for the speaker on the back though. Not neat enough to toss the one I have now and buy one. Unless I could just get the case... then maybe.

E-ink Case for the Note 9

Has anyone seen one available yet?
Gimpeh said:
Has anyone seen one available yet?
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This is the first time I heard the term "E-ink case"..
What do you mean by it? Are there any case on other phone for referral?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OAXIS-...247528&hash=item33f94660bc:g:JysAAOSwC8pb5xB~
In our case even if someone will be crazy enough to make some eink case, i think that you will have to sacrifice wireless charging, NFC payments for start. For now there is no point of making such eink covers starting from big price for this kind of devices and ending at fact that you must make case that fits only one model of phones and imagine how few of owners of that model would need and pay for this kind of case. On the other hand you can make universal cases with different housing that housing only would be needed to change if you would have different phone model, but still, compare Note size and iphone size. Better forget it and hunt for Kindle promotions
I'd like to point out the already existing LED cover:
It is model specific.
It uses NFC (for both power and control).
It is kinda expensive (but so is the phone).
Eink cover would simply replace the controller and the display part. Latter to a more expensive component than LEDs, but still not that much more expensive, considering that the LED cover is sold at 70€+.
The NFC on the cover does have an effect; e.g. wireless charging gets interrupted whenever the phone uses the LEDs on the cover. Other than that, one charge through that LED cover and I think reading NFC card also worked (but might remember wrong), so there is no reason to believe things would work differently with an Eink version.

Where is the silver version of the Zenfone 6?

I can't seem to find it anywhere! It is easily the better looking model. So annoyed because being as impatient as I am, I have preordered the black one.
subhani said:
I can't seem to find it anywhere! It is easily the better looking model. So annoyed because being as impatient as I am, I have preordered the black one.
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I've been assuming you selected colour at some point in the checkout since the silver version is not on the UK site. That's a shame if we only have the black version here
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I've been assuming you selected colour at some point in the checkout since the silver version is not on the UK site. That's a shame if we only have the black version here
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There was no colour option on the UK site where I pre-ordered. Really disappointing. The chrome of the camera matched the silver back of that unit. The black one is not colour coded as well as the silver one. It bothers me.
That's a shame. The colours are already pretty lackluster and apparently we are down to just black (at least on Asus' website). I'm waiting for the shipping date to update from July 2018 before I order one, hopefully we may see the silver added when their stock is confirmed.
Was really hoping for like yellow and stuff
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That's a shame. The colours are already pretty lackluster and apparently we are down to just black (at least on Asus' website). I'm waiting for the shipping date to update from July 2018 before I order one, hopefully we may see the silver added when their stock is confirmed.
Was really hoping for like yellow and stuff
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Yes I ordered from the UK Asus site.
subhani said:
Yes I ordered from the UK Asus site.
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Do you have a shipping date at all? Seems like Asus doesn't even know at the moment.
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Do you have a shipping date at all? Seems like Asus doesn't even know at the moment.
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They haven't provided one yet.
I think Asus was waiting to see how people would respond to this "new" camera. If the response was really bad ...then stick with black only and take your time building them depending on pre-orders. However, if the response is positive...then wham-bam-thank you maam... let's get them built and available. For Asus to build them all up front without knowing how the public would respond could have been disastrous to their bottom line. But it appears positive so far so I think we will see them ramp up fairly quickly so as not to lose potential sales to those who are too impatient to wait for them to arrive.
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I think Asus was waiting to see how people would respond to this "new" camera. If the response was really bad ...then stick with black only and take your time building them depending on pre-orders. However, if the response is positive...then wham-bam-thank you maam... let's get them built and available. For Asus to build them all up front without knowing how the public would respond could have been disastrous to their bottom line. But it appears positive so far so I think we will see them ramp up fairly quickly so as not to lose potential sales to those who are too impatient to wait for them to arrive.
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The danger is that I'm contacting them to cancel my preorder to wait for the silver one. The danger being, they will lose the moment if they don't strike when the iron is hot. People will look to other devices. I'm hearing about the pocofone f2 and I'm still tempted by the pixel 3a.
Kinda strange that the better looking model isn't the one they are producing to attract interest. Even if they wanted to play safe, they could've produced a very limited few models of the different colours as I'm sure most do.
jaseman said:
I think Asus was waiting to see how people would respond to this "new" camera. If the response was really bad ...then stick with black only and take your time building them depending on pre-orders.
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No, this is not true. They started with color which attract more potential buyers and they cannot produce silver version with the same pace as black, because it is multilayered, so they postponed it a little bit, to be able to deliver as fast as possible in the first weeks.
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Kinda strange that the better looking model isn't the one they are producing to attract interest.
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Better looking is a purely subjective viewpoint
From a practical point of view, the silver one more attract fingerprints and the camera is much more prominent in silver design.
Black is not pure black, it is dotted. I chose black, it is more subtle.
Look at the next 30 seconds, but first switch on subtitles in your language:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGWGowul_LQ&feature=youtu.be&t=530
I like silver better but I'm impatient. Whatever comes out first in USA is what I'm getting
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No, this is not true. They started with color which attract more potential buyers and they cannot produce silver version with the same pace as black, because it is multilayered, so they postponed it a little bit, to be able to deliver as fast as possible in the first weeks.
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Do you have any references or links to support their inability to deliver as fast as possible and that they postponed the silver because of the manufacturing process?
We're all speculating due to lack of information but I'm assuming Asus do market research everytime they release a product. They will know what to realistically expect to sell.
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Do you have any references or links to support their inability to deliver as fast as possible and that they postponed the silver because of the manufacturing process?
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Sure, I get all that information from ZF6 forum in Sweden (via Google Translator), which I mentioned in this my post here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79595936&postcount=8
silver one does look lush, but fingerprint magnet, and also makes the phone look bigger to me, even though its not.
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Better looking is a purely subjective viewpoint
From a practical point of view, the silver one more attract fingerprints and the camera is much more prominent in silver design.
Black is not pure black, it is dotted. I chose black, it is more subtle.
Look at the next 30 seconds, but first switch on subtitles in your language:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGWGowul_LQ&feature=youtu.be&t=530[/QUOTE]
From a practical point of view 90% of buyers will put a case on it so fingerprints won't matter. No one knows what they will use to treat the back anyway. Black also shows fingerprints more than silver. I wouldn't mind the black if it didn't have that ugly blue writing. The silver is lovely.
I get it, the colour will be subjective. The point still is the lack of information regarding its availability. If they feared lower demand for silver, then a limited quantity could have been advertised with the black one. Release them together! Or open pre-orders for both, then dispatch when availability is possible.
What about 8gb 256gb version? I think Asus process is very slow. No specific release date, far behind from Apple, Samsung, Oneplus on this section..
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I was surprised by that, but in the linked video they say the opposite.
Usually white or silver color is less prone to fingerprints than the glossy black.
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What about 8gb 256gb version? I think Asus process is very slow. No specific release date, far behind from Apple, Samsung, Oneplus on this section..
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One vendor here regularly updates delivery dates in the Czech Republic and the latest are those:
https://www.huramobil.cz/1Search.asp?exps=ZS630KL&btnSearch=Hledat
Haha, I was waiting for silver in CZ, but still nothing. Yesterday I was like - screw it, i'm getting black and case for no ... black not in stock anymore
BTW I wrote to Asus why they release two colors, but really only one, and they are like - you can get whatever color you want as long as it is black.
I don't trust hura mobil or any date predictions, huramobil sid 5th june until a few days back. And when I ordered blue Mi9 alza was postponing delivery date for two months. Most common date is june 20 ...
Now that I saw how much of fingerprint magnet silver-blue one is in video you linked I would go for black one and maybe case for the first time - facepalm
I have pre-ordered the silver one from alza.co.uk.
They have given me a June 20th date for dispatch.

General The Bezels of the ROG 5 aren't Symmetrical!

Greetings, so I have been a proud owner of the ROG series since the beginning, I have owned the original ROG, and currently I still own the ROG 2 & 5. I haven't owned the ROG 3 because it wasn't much of an upgrade from the 2 and there were compromises as we all know with the headphone jack,.. etc.
Up until the ROG 5 the bezels of all the ROG phones were symmetrical, but not the case with the ROG 5. I am drawn to symmetry especially when it comes to phones, I hate unsymmetrical bezels or phones with notches thats why I keep avoiding flagship phones because none meet my preference (I know it's not a big deal but in my case unfortunately it is).
So coming back to the headline, I have measured the top and bottom bezels and the bottom bezel is smaller by almost a 0.5 mm - 1mm. I have been noticing it since the moment I got the phone but I kept doubting it until I measured it, also i didn't believe ASUS will do it since there was no justified reason for them to do it in the first place (Disappointed honestly because I love this phone dual speakers design out of all the ROG series).
Anyway I wanted to point it out for those people interested, since I haven't found any mention of it in any thread or website.
Device:
ASUS ROG 5 ( Chinese model CN_1005D)
12GB/128GB version
P.S : I added a photo of my phone scanned, then i measured it in Photoshop. This is what it turned out to be (As accurate as i could be ) ( A difference of 0.6 mm)
Are you sure it isn't a defect? Can't replicate your results.
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Are you sure it isn't a defect? Can't replicate your results.
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How can it be a defect, just by looking at the bezels from every angle you will notice that they aren't identical, now regarding the difference in measure I could be off but it's =<0.5 mm.
tyfor me it's perfectly even
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How can it be a defect, just by looking at the bezels from every angle you will notice that they aren't identical, now regarding the difference in measure I could be off but it's =<0.5 mm.
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You answered your own question. Your bezels aren't identical.
Got out a ruler just to make sure and mine are a perfect 1 : 1 match.
@Rashad83 I always thought I was the only one
None of my friends ever understood my problems with most phones and their notches/punch holes and bezels.
I would rather have exact same bezels than a larger screen ratio.
Anyway back to the topic: thanks for your information. From the pictures it looked perfectly.
The first picture with the stickers on the display might seem off because the adhesive wasn't sticking but the drawn line is correct I assure you. I hate to say it but they aren't identical 100% sure!
So this is the bottom bezel with the sticker on it.
Now I took the bottom sticker and placed it on the top bezel, you can clearly see they aren't identical.
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You answered your own question. Your bezels aren't identical.
Got out a ruler just to make sure and mine are a perfect 1 : 1 match.
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I am happy for you if that is the case, but still I can't believe it's a defect because as I understand it these displays come out from the same mold used to create all the ROG 5 displays. Basically I couldn't be the only case with this issue, it's either all the ROG 5 devices are suffering from this issue or I am one of the few( Maybe not a few, will have to see) suffering from this issue.
Anyway thanks for the feedback.
Lol, you weren't suppose to notice this
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I am happy for you if that is the case, but still I can't believe it's a defect because as I understand it these displays come out from the same mold used to create all the ROG 5 displays. Basically I couldn't be the only case with this issue, it's either all the ROG 5 devices are suffering from this issue or I am one of the few( Maybe not a few, will have to see) suffering from this issue.
Anyway thanks for the feedback.
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I never said you were the only case. Your issue would likely be an entire run (or location). I get that you are worked up about it, but a defect can be in the mold. It's still a defect.
What may be helpful is to post where you bought it and which version. There are two that work in the US, so this may be something that sways people if it only applies to one of them.
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I never said you were the only case. Your issue would likely be an entire run (or location). I get that you are worked up about it, but a defect can be in the mold. It's still a defect.
What may be helpful is to post where you bought it and which version. There are two that work in the US, so this may be something that sways people if it only applies to one of them.
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Thanks for the tip, the version I own is the Chinese version/model, i bought it locally so it wasn't shipped to abroad. The funny thing is that this is my second unit, the first unit I bought had scratches on the charger head so they replaced it for me. By the way I bought it from ASUS online official store.
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Rashad83 said:
Thanks for the tip, the version I own is the Chinese version/model, i bought it locally so it wasn't shipped to abroad. The funny thing is that this is my second unit, the first unit I bought had scratches on the charger head so they replaced it for me. By the way I bought it from ASUS online official store.
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That's actually really interesting. I know mine is Tencent, but it came with the WW firmware. I wonder if Taiwan got a separate manufacturing location.
So this topic got me interested in comparing other ASUS ROG 5 screen bezel sizes. I found this clear sample from Androidauthority Website , credits go to them .
I measured the length of the top (0.28 CM) and the bottom bezel (0.26 CM) in Photoshop, which results in a ratio of (1.076923076923077 : 1).
Now by my phone measurements the top bezel from the top speaker to the start of the display i get a measure of (~0.5 CM). Now if we multiply the ratio by the size i got, the bottom bezel should be (0.4642857142857143 CM). So a difference of ~ 0.4 MM.
Either way this proves that they aren't identical, It's not a big deal or a shocking discovery. None the less it's good to know for people wondering.
Rashad83 said:
So this topic got me interested in comparting other ASUS ROG 5 screen bezel sizes. I found this clear sample from Androidauthority Website , credits go to them .
I measured the length of the top (0.28 CM) and the bottom bezel (0.26 CM) in Photoshop, which results in a ratio of (1.076923076923077 : 1).
Now by my phone measurements the top bezel from the top speaker to the start of the display i get a measure of (~0.5 CM). Now if we multiply the ratio by the size i got, the bottom bezel should be (0.4642857142857143 CM). So a difference of ~ 0.4 MM.
Either way this proves that they aren't identical, It's not a big deal or a shocking discovery. None the less it's good to know for people wondering.
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Starting to sound like an old cigarette commercial. That extra whatever millimeters longer
I wouldn't be surprised if it is intentional. The more I was thinking about it, the screen protectors have a black top and bottom that partially cut into the screen. The manufacturer just assumes they are identical and ends up covering it up. That would explain varied results.
The camera in the top likely requires just slightly more space. The screen has to be a specific size, but they might not have been able to make the phone any taller. Rather than make the screen smaller or put the camera into the screen, you end up with slightly different sizes.
This phone could use even more top & bottom bezels if you ask me! If you use it for gaming with max touch responsiveness, you know what I'm talking about - a lot of accidental touches around the lower corners in landscape. Not cool when gaming. The area block function in A-Crate doesn't work for me.
In addition I wish the display corners were just good old full size square corners instead of being as rounded as they are.
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This phone could use even more top & bottom bezels if you ask me! If you use it for gaming with max touch responsiveness, you know what I'm talking about - a lot of accidental touches around the lower corners in landscape. Not cool when gaming. The area block function in A-Crate doesn't work for me.
In addition I wish the display corners were just good old full size square corners instead of being as rounded as they are.
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I cannot agree more. Unfortunately there is no newer phone that meets these requirements. However the rog 5 is the least guly one in my opinion.
I hope that "no bezel", Notch, Punch hole trend with rounded corners ends as soon as possible.

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