What is "Sabermod"? - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What does the term Sabermod mean? I keep seeing it in the titles of different ROM's, is it just another fork of android similar to CM, AOKP, PA?

kyleallen5000 said:
What does the term Sabermod mean? I keep seeing it in the titles of different ROM's, is it just another fork of android similar to CM, AOKP, PA?
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I agree I wanted to know what it was too so check it out here

playya said:
I agree I wanted to know what it was too so check it out here
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Not funny anymore, all that does is show me the ROM's webpage I obviously know how to google. I want to know why it is included in the title of so many other ROM's. Is it the base of most of these ROM's? (Smart ass)

kyleallen5000 said:
Not funny anymore, all that does is show me the ROM's webpage I obviously know how to google. I want to know why it is included in the title of so many other ROM's. Is it the base of most of these ROM's? (Smart ass)
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whats funny is when people say they know how to google but can't find stuff. Now hey maybe you are looking for a certain answer a certain way but off what I sent you I found this
What does the term Sabermod mean?
What is SaberMod?
The term "SaberMod" is coming from:
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SaberMod is a AOSP based ROM with some extra features added in and mostly from CyanogenMod. SaberMod started out pure AOSP when android 4.2.1 launched. Originally it was pure AOSP with a few extra features I ported over from CyanogeMod and linaro optimizations. Then I rebased everything off of rasbeanjelly because I liked many features found in rasbean. Since then I've modified a lot of the code so not much of it is rasbeanjelly based anymore. But you will still find some commonly used features found in rasbeanjelly. SaberMod is not a rasbeanjelly or CM clone, or KANG. Custom kernels are included for certain devices when available. These are personal builds we make for ourselves and originally became very popular in the nexus 7 forums. Features are very rarely added, and are built to SaberMod's team members liking. Currently there are two members of SaberMod working on this project. Myself and @jarjar124 . Please understand our time is limited and we are only two people who have lives, and do not have 25-50 members like CyanogenMod to add things. And our goal is not to add a bunch of features that bloat the system of the ROM.
Source: http://forum.xda-dev.....php?t=2158698
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Maybe it helps maybe it does not either way have a good day....

playya said:
whats funny is when people say they know how to google but can't find stuff. Now hey maybe you are looking for a certain answer a certain way but off what I sent you I found this
What does the term Sabermod mean?
Maybe it helps maybe it does not either way have a good day....
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I stand corrected, I am a google simpleton. Haha Thanks man.

just so you know, they actually didn't answer your question. What SaberMOD refers to when used in ROMs and kernels is the toolchain that team created, which is an optimized version of the linaro toolchain that has more flags enabled for better performance.

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AOKP vs. AOSP

What are the differences between these two sources or whatever they are? Still confused what differentiates whitehawkx's AKOP based rom from the Eaglesblood AOSP rom?
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AOSP = Android open source project.
source from google. Nothing added other then what is needed to make it work on the phone. (drivers)​
AOKP = Android open kang project
Close to aosp but with many enhancements added behind what is needed to make it work on the phone.​
Cyanogen mod would fall into the same category as AOKP.
Hope this helps.
painter_ said:
AOSP = Android open source project.
source from google. Nothing added other then what is needed to make it work on the phone. (drivers)​
AOKP = Android open kang project
Close to aosp but with many enhancements added behind what is needed to make it work on the phone.​
Cyanogen mod would fall into the same category as AOKP.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you, that cleared up alot.
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That's what i thought thanks for the confirmation
painter_ said:
AOSP = Android open source project.
source from google. Nothing added other then what is needed to make it work on the phone. (drivers)​
AOKP = Android open kang project
Close to aosp but with many enhancements added behind what is needed to make it work on the phone.​
Cyanogen mod would fall into the same category as AOKP.
Hope this helps.
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as would all the other ROMs on here? hellfire, eaglesblood? they are made from CM7/9 correct? unless otherwise noted?
dodgefan67 said:
as would all the other ROMs on here? hellfire, eaglesblood? they are made from CM7/9 correct? unless otherwise noted?
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not really, AOKP uses some CM9 stuff, but its definitely a proper ROM on its own.
Any rom that says AOSP in its name is generally Built from google source code, with little to nothing from CM7/9 other than what might be necessary to get things running.
MIUI is another rom that, while built from CM7/9 is VERY different.
ROM's like Hellfire, and others similar to it, are mostly just a proper CM7/9 ROM with tweaks, and small fixes put into it, and more recently (to my annoyance) other kernels too.
Overall, CyanogenMod was probably the greatest thing to happen to android modding as a whole, they provide a base for most things to branch off from (and they don't even complain when everyone and everything uses their source!) The only reason its in everything is because if its something that the user will not see, and it works, why spend the days/weeks/months to develop it when its sitting right on CyanogenMod's GIT.
this explains alot
Klathmon said:
not really, AOKP uses some CM9 stuff, but its definitely a proper ROM on its own.
Any rom that says AOSP in its name is generally Built from google source code, with little to nothing from CM7/9 other than what might be necessary to get things running.
MIUI is another rom that, while built from CM7/9 is VERY different.
ROM's like Hellfire, and others similar to it, are mostly just a proper CM7/9 ROM with tweaks, and small fixes put into it, and more recently (to my annoyance) other kernels too.
Overall, CyanogenMod was probably the greatest thing to happen to android modding as a whole, they provide a base for most things to branch off from (and they don't even complain when everyone and everything uses their source!) The only reason its in everything is because if its something that the user will not see, and it works, why spend the days/weeks/months to develop it when its sitting right on CyanogenMod's GIT.
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binded2 said:
this explains alot
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yeah it does, thanks Klathmon!!
thanks alot its so cleared now
Klathmon said:
not really, AOKP uses some CM9 stuff, but its definitely a proper ROM on its own.
Any rom that says AOSP in its name is generally Built from google source code, with little to nothing from CM7/9 other than what might be necessary to get things running.
MIUI is another rom that, while built from CM7/9 is VERY different.
ROM's like Hellfire, and others similar to it, are mostly just a proper CM7/9 ROM with tweaks, and small fixes put into it, and more recently (to my annoyance) other kernels too.
Overall, CyanogenMod was probably the greatest thing to happen to android modding as a whole, they provide a base for most things to branch off from (and they don't even complain when everyone and everything uses their source!) The only reason its in everything is because if its something that the user will not see, and it works, why spend the days/weeks/months to develop it when its sitting right on CyanogenMod's GIT.
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That's almost true. Even though it's AOSP and all from Google's Android source, they still used CM's source tree because they put everything together. No point in spending an enormous amount of time to put it together yourself if CM already did it. So technically it's still a large portion of CM's work.
ok, i got it...
Klathmon said:
not really, AOKP uses some CM9 stuff, but its definitely a proper ROM on its own.
Any rom that says AOSP in its name is generally Built from google source code, with little to nothing from CM7/9 other than what might be necessary to get things running.
MIUI is another rom that, while built from CM7/9 is VERY different.
ROM's like Hellfire, and others similar to it, are mostly just a proper CM7/9 ROM with tweaks, and small fixes put into it, and more recently (to my annoyance) other kernels too.
Overall, CyanogenMod was probably the greatest thing to happen to android modding as a whole, they provide a base for most things to branch off from (and they don't even complain when everyone and everything uses their source!) The only reason its in everything is because if its something that the user will not see, and it works, why spend the days/weeks/months to develop it when its sitting right on CyanogenMod's GIT.
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Thanx for this information but i need to know more about the layers of the ROM that are there in AOSP and AOKP (i heard this from a friend that AOSP have 7 layers and AOKP has about 10 is that true? and the AOSP makes the interaction easier then that of the AOKP).
miku3191 said:
Thanx for this information but i need to know more about the layers of the ROM that are there in AOSP and AOKP (i heard this from a friend that AOSP have 7 layers and AOKP has about 10 is that true? and the AOSP makes the interaction easier then that of the AOKP).
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What do you mean by "layers"?
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The *toad roms

I have all kinds of Android devices and I use Cyanogenmod on all of them. I like to have the same exact system on each; saves me time, to have to learn only one. Plus I very much like CM.
But on this device, for some reason, most of the development effort seems to go to the *toad releases. Could someone elaborate why? Secondly, why use a *toad instead of the "real" Cyanogenmod?
hardy81 said:
I have all kinds of Android devices and I use Cyanogenmod on all of them. I like to have the same exact system on each; saves me time, to have to learn only one. Plus I very much like CM.
But on this device, for some reason, most of the development effort seems to go to the *toad releases. Could someone elaborate why? Secondly, why use a *toad instead of the "real" Cyanogenmod?
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Because the official releases are posted in the CyanogenMod website under downloads>official devices...the device maintainer for cm on apexqtmo was also banned from xda
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Ummm, What? The official device maintainer for CM is @Nardholio who is definitely still here.
The HypnoToad images started as TeamApexQ's test bed, as time went on, there were tweaks that were made that were not accepted by CM for one reason or another, but we liked them. They became part of our internal builds, which as that stabilized and diverged more from CyanogenMod, we made available as FatToad. OmniToad is based on Omnirom, not CyanogenMod. The majority of TeamApexQ likes the Omni base better, so that has become our development platform.
One of the tweaks that are part of FatToad have bitrotted a bit, and the developer of that tweak has moved on to OmniToad, and has no intention of going back and maintaining said tweak, so FatToad likely will not be seeing any more releases.
Fear not though, the work on HypnoToad DOES still benefit the official CyanogenMod builds, as fixes are freely ported from one to the other.
Magamo said:
Ummm, What? The official device maintainer for CM is @Nardholio who is definitely still here.
The HypnoToad images started as TeamApexQ's test bed, as time went on, there were tweaks that were made that were not accepted by CM for one reason or another, but we liked them. They became part of our internal builds, which as that stabilized and diverged more from CyanogenMod, we made available as FatToad. OmniToad is based on Omnirom, not CyanogenMod. The majority of TeamApexQ likes the Omni base better, so that has become our development platform.
One of the tweaks that are part of FatToad have bitrotted a bit, and the developer of that tweak has moved on to OmniToad, and has no intention of going back and maintaining said tweak, so FatToad likely will not be seeing any more releases.
Fear not though, the work on HypnoToad DOES still benefit the official CyanogenMod builds, as fixes are freely ported from one to the other.
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XDA refuses to ban me
Nardholio said:
XDA refuses to ban me
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i thought it was lbcoder....well thats what i was told anyway....grats on being a good maintainer Nard
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The difference between the original ROM and Kastvm
Magamo said:
Fear not though, the work on HypnoToad DOES still benefit the official CyanogenMod builds, as fixes are freely ported from one to the other.
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This is good to hear. Programmers of free software tend to jump ship pretty quickly and get bored with anything that is not new & cool. But Cyanogenmod should be seen as cool, since it's just awesome to have the same system on so many devices.
Thanks for the clarifications.
hardy81 said:
This is good to hear. Programmers of free software tend to jump ship pretty quickly and get bored with anything that is not new & cool. But Cyanogenmod should be seen as cool, since it's just awesome to have the same system on so many devices.
Thanks for the clarifications.
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As a very agreeable argument...the same could go for other great ROMs too and not just CyanogenMod..just takes developers to bring em to the device including CM...to each his own and that's why there is a variety to choose from
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[Request]

Hello. I am following a suggestion, on posting a request, so i hope to be doing it on the correct forum.
Would like to ask if possible a ROM with :
XNPH33R (CM11S)
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JustArchi's ArchiDroid Optimizations
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2754997
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And Sabermod
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Full O3
I had a very solid experience with this combination on GS2 with Markox work, as CM is a solid Rom and becomes really speedy with these goodies:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/development-derivatives/rom-cyanogenmod-11-t2686887
Can anyone help?
Thanks
Great News
I don't know about a stock 11s ROM compiled with Sabermod, I do know that there are many ROMS that are compiled with it, such as LiquidSmooth, Sabermodded Slim, or Paranoid SaberDroid.
Anyone able to?
There are already quite allot of ROMs outthere. Why not choose one of those?
There are plenty of silk smooth versions available, which you can play around with for ages.
It's not like what you're asking is a 5 minute job...
Gamm86 said:
There are already quite allot of ROMs outthere. Why not choose one of those?
There are plenty of silk smooth versions available, which you can play around with for ages.
It's not like what you're asking is a 5 minute job...
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I know... That's why is request with the goodies that I had great experience on old phones. Imagine now on this great machine . =p

[Q]Whats the difference between CyanogenMod and omniROM in lollipop v 5.1.x [stable]

I need one ROM with less or no bugs...thanks guys
Try them both.
As you'll never get an unbiased opinion, "Which ROM is best?" threads are frowned upon and generally quickly locked.
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I'm interested by the question but not by the troll
Really, what's the difference between cyanogenmod and omrirom rev5.1.1?
It is not possible to answer your question.
Best thing I can do is point you to the source code and tell you to do a diff.
Both roms have different dev, different priorities, different way of doing things, different features (and for equivalent features, different way of implementing them).
For me Omnirom is way mor clean and stable but CM have more features.
On the other hand, omni nightlies have just started so new features are being implemented (not the same ones as CM, maybe for some).
I really think this kind of question can only lead to troll as "which rom is the best ?" is the same as "which color is more beautiful ?", there is no answer.
supermamie said:
It is not possible to answer your question.
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Why?
supermamie said:
Best thing I can do is point you to the source code and tell you to do a diff.
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And this is not helpful.
supermamie said:
Both roms have different dev, different priorities, different way of doing things, different features (and for equivalent features, different way of implementing them).
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I guess most users are interested in details about those different features. Unfortunately I don't know enough about the specific features of CM and Omni to make such a comparison. Maybe those who implemented unique features for Omni can step up and provide a short description of what they did.
supermamie said:
I really think this kind of question can only lead to troll as "which rom is the best ?" is the same as "which color is more beautiful ?", there is no answer.
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There are objective differences between the ROMs, just as there are objective differences between the colors red and blue.
_that said:
There are objective differences between the ROMs, just as there are objective differences between the colors red and blue.
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Then please, which is the best color ?
in the use I've done of both rom now on my nexus 5 (I stopped using CM when Omni nightlies went online) here are the differences I can point :
- CM freeses sometime (maybe omni will too after a few weeks, I don't know)
Features CM have and not omni (not yet for some I think) :
Access to clock/calendar from the status bar
Quick access to the parameters tiles (the thing we have to swipe twice to access)
Customisation of the google now access ring (3 shortcut possible)
Customisation of the lockscreen shortcuts
For now CM have more features but more bugs.
As those features were in Omni 4.4, I guess they will be back (and if not... well, they will be back, if the main dev have more things to do, someone else will do it).
If you want many many features, go to CM, if you want less bugs, go for Omni.
This is based only on my experience on both roms on my phone with my apps and my way of using my phone, it is purely subjective.
(there are many features of CM I don't use that are not in CM, like OmniSwitch)
OmniRom is more like a stock rom, with too less availability to customize it, it's pretty stable and it works pretty well.
CM rom are really completely customizable in really everything and with them you can suit the best phone for you. Maybe a few bugs, not big bugs, but developers release new versions very often. For example, for Samsung Galaxy S3 mini (CM 12.1 stable) I got an update on August 18th, than on 29th and then on September 1st. You just need to be patient to restore your data after updating.
It depends only in what you want form your phone
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Resurrection remix oreo VS aosp extended

I heard there are less features in aosp, what are they also what is the battery life and performance
what about it?? what do you want to know??
droidbot1337 said:
what about it?? what do you want to know??
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Features, I heard there are less on aosp, what are they? Battery life and performance
YayJohn said:
Features, I heard there are less on aosp, what are they? Battery life and performance
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well, since i have some time between school and work i guess i can answer this. in the world of custom ROMs there are 2 types. the first are the ROMs that add few features and customization/modifications to AOSP. these include Cypher, Paranoid Android etc. then there are those that throw everything including the kitchen sink into the ROM.
both RR and AOSP Ex are the latter. these two ROMs pack the most mods out of all other ROMs.... or at least they used to. AOSP Ex has thankfully slimmed down the amount of mods in their ROM and have made it very efficient. its my proffered ROM.
many of the mods on RR are useless to me but to others they arent so if you like mods, enjoy! many of the mods used by both these ROMs can be installed by using xposed and gravitybox so you can just use any other ROM or just plain AOSP.
btw, RR was/is based on LineageOS (im not sure if it still is) while AOSP Ex is obviously based on AOSP. i prefer AOSP based ROMs but to each their own! anyway, i got about an hour before work so im gonna get a bite. i hope this helps and if not, google is your friend!..... also xda!....... and i might help out again if i have free time. cheers!
My opinion.
They play in different leagues. RR contains practically all (or almost all) the functions created in the community whereas AEX contains many less, let's say that its package in terms of functions and personalization is "medium" while RR is "large".

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