I have all kinds of Android devices and I use Cyanogenmod on all of them. I like to have the same exact system on each; saves me time, to have to learn only one. Plus I very much like CM.
But on this device, for some reason, most of the development effort seems to go to the *toad releases. Could someone elaborate why? Secondly, why use a *toad instead of the "real" Cyanogenmod?
hardy81 said:
I have all kinds of Android devices and I use Cyanogenmod on all of them. I like to have the same exact system on each; saves me time, to have to learn only one. Plus I very much like CM.
But on this device, for some reason, most of the development effort seems to go to the *toad releases. Could someone elaborate why? Secondly, why use a *toad instead of the "real" Cyanogenmod?
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Because the official releases are posted in the CyanogenMod website under downloads>official devices...the device maintainer for cm on apexqtmo was also banned from xda
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Ummm, What? The official device maintainer for CM is @Nardholio who is definitely still here.
The HypnoToad images started as TeamApexQ's test bed, as time went on, there were tweaks that were made that were not accepted by CM for one reason or another, but we liked them. They became part of our internal builds, which as that stabilized and diverged more from CyanogenMod, we made available as FatToad. OmniToad is based on Omnirom, not CyanogenMod. The majority of TeamApexQ likes the Omni base better, so that has become our development platform.
One of the tweaks that are part of FatToad have bitrotted a bit, and the developer of that tweak has moved on to OmniToad, and has no intention of going back and maintaining said tweak, so FatToad likely will not be seeing any more releases.
Fear not though, the work on HypnoToad DOES still benefit the official CyanogenMod builds, as fixes are freely ported from one to the other.
Magamo said:
Ummm, What? The official device maintainer for CM is @Nardholio who is definitely still here.
The HypnoToad images started as TeamApexQ's test bed, as time went on, there were tweaks that were made that were not accepted by CM for one reason or another, but we liked them. They became part of our internal builds, which as that stabilized and diverged more from CyanogenMod, we made available as FatToad. OmniToad is based on Omnirom, not CyanogenMod. The majority of TeamApexQ likes the Omni base better, so that has become our development platform.
One of the tweaks that are part of FatToad have bitrotted a bit, and the developer of that tweak has moved on to OmniToad, and has no intention of going back and maintaining said tweak, so FatToad likely will not be seeing any more releases.
Fear not though, the work on HypnoToad DOES still benefit the official CyanogenMod builds, as fixes are freely ported from one to the other.
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XDA refuses to ban me
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i thought it was lbcoder....well thats what i was told anyway....grats on being a good maintainer Nard
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The difference between the original ROM and Kastvm
Magamo said:
Fear not though, the work on HypnoToad DOES still benefit the official CyanogenMod builds, as fixes are freely ported from one to the other.
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This is good to hear. Programmers of free software tend to jump ship pretty quickly and get bored with anything that is not new & cool. But Cyanogenmod should be seen as cool, since it's just awesome to have the same system on so many devices.
Thanks for the clarifications.
hardy81 said:
This is good to hear. Programmers of free software tend to jump ship pretty quickly and get bored with anything that is not new & cool. But Cyanogenmod should be seen as cool, since it's just awesome to have the same system on so many devices.
Thanks for the clarifications.
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As a very agreeable argument...the same could go for other great ROMs too and not just CyanogenMod..just takes developers to bring em to the device including CM...to each his own and that's why there is a variety to choose from
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Well guys, it's a sad thing to have to say, but I've finally made the decision to move on from the Hero. Currently, I now own an EVO 3D and loving it to pieces. The Hero has been a ridiculously resilient phone. What's been done with it is nothing short of incredible. It's gone through and will probably continue to go through every version of Android that we've thrown at it.
It's been a great deal of fun being at this section of XDA, but now I must take my leave. Thank you to everyone who made my phone experience what it was.
The links in this thread should remain accurate with no need to change them, but I will not be updating it when major versions come out or if RCs come out.
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ROM: http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=heroc
Gapps: Universal GApps Package
Changelog: cm-nightlies by appspot
F.A.Q.
What is this?
CyanogenMod is an aftermarket firmware for a number of cell phones based on the open-source Android operating system. It offers features not found in the official Android based firmwares of vendors of these cell phones. It is community built, and open source, the heart of what Android stands for. The current version of Android that CyanogenMod is built on is 2.3 (Also known as Gingerbread)
DISCLAIMER: This is not my work. I did not help build CyanogenMod in any way, shape or form. Do NOT donate me or thank me with the assumption that I had any part in dev'ing this. I simply created this thread to help you keep track of the nightlies.
Any accidental donations given to me because of this thread will be promptly returned.
The real people you should be donating to is jaybob (if you can help us convince him to add a donate link for his hard work), Decad3nce, and of course, Darchstar himself.
Darchstar!? and Deca? and jaybob? and possibly some asop on the side?
oh man, these CM7 nightlies are gonna kick ass.
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Darchstar!? and Deca? and jaybob? and possibly some asop on the side?
oh man, these CM7 nightlies are gonna kick ass.
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I know, I can't wait to see what comes out of it
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I know, I can't wait to see what comes out of it
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thanks for this and for what is to come. is this going to be the thread we need to follow for 2.3 gb for now on.
so I don't have to weed through a million pages, how functional are the current builds (even non CM) at the moment? i.e. will I be on my 6.1 for a while yet? I can't imagine we can push these phones much further. Much faster and better than stock for sure, but still laggy for what I do.
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so I don't have to weed through a million pages, how functional are the current builds (even non CM) at the moment? i.e. will I be on my 6.1 for a while yet? I can't imagine we can push these phones much further. Much faster and better than stock for sure, but still laggy for what I do.
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Nightly builds of CM7 for the heroc have not been released yet, this page is more of an anticipation/preparation thread for when they do.
I just want to say "thanks" in advance to those of you who are working to make my phone better. This has been a fun ride so far...
Pete
danibri82 said:
so I don't have to weed through a million pages, how functional are the current builds (even non CM) at the moment? i.e. will I be on my 6.1 for a while yet? I can't imagine we can push these phones much further. Much faster and better than stock for sure, but still laggy for what I do.
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From my experience the 2.3.2 rom posted by aosp has everything working save the camera (this can be fixed by using a third party camera such as camera 360) and there is a small issue with streaming videos that only allows one to watch a few videos before a reboot is needed.
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From my experience the 2.3.2 rom posted by aosp has everything working save the camera (this can be fixed by using a third party camera such as camera 360) and there is a small issue with streaming videos that only allows one to watch a few videos before a reboot is needed.
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The camera works, refer to:http://romrepo.info/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page for the most recent releases to date among a wealth of other information.
silberj said:
The camera works, refer to:http://romrepo.info/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page for the most recent releases to date among a wealth of other information.
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Camera 360 improves the picture quality but the stock camera works fine too.
Glad to see CM7 coming, I'll have to watch for the official thread and see how it goes. I'm loving the aospCMod version right now though, smooth as butter and absolutely no issues at all so I'll stick with it for now.
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If you're having issues with the other Gingerbread build here, or are just interested in a pure CyanogenMOD ROM straight from the source, I'd figure I'd reassure everyone that the official CM7 builds are coming soon, and darchstar will maintain them. I've opened up this thread in anticipation of his first nightly.
For those who need proof that darchstar is indeed coming back, I quote this post from the CM Forums, by Moderator ciwrl:
Source for the above post is located here.
Here are the links listed. NO NIGHTLIES ARE UP AS OF 2/17/11. They are here for when the nightlies do go up, so you can check them.
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Download: http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=heroc
Gapps: http://android.d3xt3r01.tk/cyanogen/gapps/gapps-gb-20110120-signed.zip
Changelog: http://twitter.com/cmsrc
I will be checking the CM7 forums every day for updates from Darchstar and will update this post as soon as I know more.
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Darch is coming back! This is huge news!
since i can't (and no one else) seems to be able to figure out how to get data2ext to work on a sense rom........i'm going to switch to gingerbread once the default camera has just as good as quality or better quality than the sense camera i'll be making my switch then. but until then i'm with the setup in my signature
Can't wait. Just came back to nightly #188 thi king we'd have more love here.
I'll be looking for an official thread posted by Darchstar.
Mmm... I knew that we would eventually get cm gingerbread. I can hardly wait!
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It looks like the first nightly is up: http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=heroc
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It looks like the first nightly is up: http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=heroc
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Yup, dl'ing now.
Thread updated.
So, what will be the difference between this and aospCMod? Will it take a while for darchstar to get to where aosp is now? I just want some distinction between the two.
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So, what will be the difference between this and aospCMod? Will it take a while for darchstar to get to where aosp is now? I just want some distinction between the two.
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From what I know, the dev is totally independent, but darch had the kickstart of help from Deca and jaybob, both extremely talented devs themselves, so we'll see where it goes.
EDIT: Flashing the first build now, we'll see how it goes
What are the differences between these two sources or whatever they are? Still confused what differentiates whitehawkx's AKOP based rom from the Eaglesblood AOSP rom?
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AOSP = Android open source project.
source from google. Nothing added other then what is needed to make it work on the phone. (drivers)
AOKP = Android open kang project
Close to aosp but with many enhancements added behind what is needed to make it work on the phone.
Cyanogen mod would fall into the same category as AOKP.
Hope this helps.
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AOSP = Android open source project.
source from google. Nothing added other then what is needed to make it work on the phone. (drivers)
AOKP = Android open kang project
Close to aosp but with many enhancements added behind what is needed to make it work on the phone.
Cyanogen mod would fall into the same category as AOKP.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you, that cleared up alot.
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That's what i thought thanks for the confirmation
painter_ said:
AOSP = Android open source project.
source from google. Nothing added other then what is needed to make it work on the phone. (drivers)
AOKP = Android open kang project
Close to aosp but with many enhancements added behind what is needed to make it work on the phone.
Cyanogen mod would fall into the same category as AOKP.
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as would all the other ROMs on here? hellfire, eaglesblood? they are made from CM7/9 correct? unless otherwise noted?
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as would all the other ROMs on here? hellfire, eaglesblood? they are made from CM7/9 correct? unless otherwise noted?
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not really, AOKP uses some CM9 stuff, but its definitely a proper ROM on its own.
Any rom that says AOSP in its name is generally Built from google source code, with little to nothing from CM7/9 other than what might be necessary to get things running.
MIUI is another rom that, while built from CM7/9 is VERY different.
ROM's like Hellfire, and others similar to it, are mostly just a proper CM7/9 ROM with tweaks, and small fixes put into it, and more recently (to my annoyance) other kernels too.
Overall, CyanogenMod was probably the greatest thing to happen to android modding as a whole, they provide a base for most things to branch off from (and they don't even complain when everyone and everything uses their source!) The only reason its in everything is because if its something that the user will not see, and it works, why spend the days/weeks/months to develop it when its sitting right on CyanogenMod's GIT.
this explains alot
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not really, AOKP uses some CM9 stuff, but its definitely a proper ROM on its own.
Any rom that says AOSP in its name is generally Built from google source code, with little to nothing from CM7/9 other than what might be necessary to get things running.
MIUI is another rom that, while built from CM7/9 is VERY different.
ROM's like Hellfire, and others similar to it, are mostly just a proper CM7/9 ROM with tweaks, and small fixes put into it, and more recently (to my annoyance) other kernels too.
Overall, CyanogenMod was probably the greatest thing to happen to android modding as a whole, they provide a base for most things to branch off from (and they don't even complain when everyone and everything uses their source!) The only reason its in everything is because if its something that the user will not see, and it works, why spend the days/weeks/months to develop it when its sitting right on CyanogenMod's GIT.
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this explains alot
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yeah it does, thanks Klathmon!!
thanks alot its so cleared now
Klathmon said:
not really, AOKP uses some CM9 stuff, but its definitely a proper ROM on its own.
Any rom that says AOSP in its name is generally Built from google source code, with little to nothing from CM7/9 other than what might be necessary to get things running.
MIUI is another rom that, while built from CM7/9 is VERY different.
ROM's like Hellfire, and others similar to it, are mostly just a proper CM7/9 ROM with tweaks, and small fixes put into it, and more recently (to my annoyance) other kernels too.
Overall, CyanogenMod was probably the greatest thing to happen to android modding as a whole, they provide a base for most things to branch off from (and they don't even complain when everyone and everything uses their source!) The only reason its in everything is because if its something that the user will not see, and it works, why spend the days/weeks/months to develop it when its sitting right on CyanogenMod's GIT.
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That's almost true. Even though it's AOSP and all from Google's Android source, they still used CM's source tree because they put everything together. No point in spending an enormous amount of time to put it together yourself if CM already did it. So technically it's still a large portion of CM's work.
ok, i got it...
Klathmon said:
not really, AOKP uses some CM9 stuff, but its definitely a proper ROM on its own.
Any rom that says AOSP in its name is generally Built from google source code, with little to nothing from CM7/9 other than what might be necessary to get things running.
MIUI is another rom that, while built from CM7/9 is VERY different.
ROM's like Hellfire, and others similar to it, are mostly just a proper CM7/9 ROM with tweaks, and small fixes put into it, and more recently (to my annoyance) other kernels too.
Overall, CyanogenMod was probably the greatest thing to happen to android modding as a whole, they provide a base for most things to branch off from (and they don't even complain when everyone and everything uses their source!) The only reason its in everything is because if its something that the user will not see, and it works, why spend the days/weeks/months to develop it when its sitting right on CyanogenMod's GIT.
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Thanx for this information but i need to know more about the layers of the ROM that are there in AOSP and AOKP (i heard this from a friend that AOSP have 7 layers and AOKP has about 10 is that true? and the AOSP makes the interaction easier then that of the AOKP).
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Thanx for this information but i need to know more about the layers of the ROM that are there in AOSP and AOKP (i heard this from a friend that AOSP have 7 layers and AOKP has about 10 is that true? and the AOSP makes the interaction easier then that of the AOKP).
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What do you mean by "layers"?
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We seem to have a great selection of other ROMs, from CM, AOKP, etc. but I never see just an AOSP ROM for this device. It would be great to compare the "Nexus Experience" for the Doubleshot, I think.
Well, technically Cyanogen Mod is the greatest AOSP ROM out there. As far as I know nobody writes anything from the ground up. At least if I understand how everything all goes together. Now, someone may very well use their base code & do all their own coding for add-ons & customizations but I'm not sure who or which ROM you may be talking about. My wife has a Nexus 4 so I have been browsing their forums but that's the way it seems to me.
Well you wouldn't port an aosp ROM as the base wouldn't be aosp, so it would need to be built from source if you want true aosp. This is of course much more complicated on a phone like this where there is no aosp source other than from the SDK, its doable but would require lots of hard work
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demkantor said:
Well you wouldn't port an aosp ROM as the base wouldn't be aosp, so it would need to be built from source if you want true aosp. This is of course much more complicated on a phone like this where there is no aosp source other than from the SDK, its doable but would require lots of hard work
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SEE! I told ya I wasn't sure. LMAO! :laugh:
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Well you wouldn't port an aosp ROM as the base wouldn't be aosp, so it would need to be built from source if you want true aosp. This is of course much more complicated on a phone like this where there is no aosp source other than from the SDK, its doable but would require lots of hard work
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I would love to try this, and I've gone far enough to setup everything on my linux box. I got to the point of downloading the source files, and I'm not sure where to go from there. Reason being that I know that most of the phone sensors and components wont work without the proprietary drivers and other required software for the phone. I don't know where to find them, and if I managed to get them, how to integrate them into the source tree. I have looked through the developers reference thread, but not sure whats needed from there to get all the stuff needed.
I think I'm in over my head lol
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We seem to have a great selection of other ROMs, from CM, AOKP, etc. but I never see just an AOSP ROM for this device. It would be great to compare the "Nexus Experience" for the Doubleshot, I think.
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I gotta say, I only just got into the ROM bizness. Was running fully stock, locked GB rom on this phone until a few weeks ago. After some research and lots of reading through these forums I settled on the Unofficial CM 10.1 JB rom here, and absolutely love it. I can't believe what amazing crew of dev's we have here that are bringing new life to this great hardware, but unsupported handset!
Suffice to say it's been my ONLY other experience compared to stock, but I'm using it as a daily driver with nearly no issues, and some have even been fixed since my first flash a few weeks ago. Can't thank this forum enough. Now if only I could post in the development forums without having to make 9 more BS posts I'd be a happy camper!
Ok, so I'm not a tech pro. But molding my gadgets is becoming a hobby. I've learned unlocking and rooting.. I've started flashing ROMs and mods to stock roms.
Now I'm wondering, what's the difference between ROMs like pure AOKP vs ROMs based on other original roms like AOKP?
For example, I'm using Smoothrom on my grouper nexus 7 to boost performance/reduce lag/etc. It is a 4.3 Jellybean ROM based on AOKP. What is the difference v the AOKP ROM? added features baked in? Bugs within Aokp fixed?
This is question is just for knowledge sake, so please don't criticize any biases or wrong assumptions apparent in the language of the question. Please do address any inaccuracies or biases/assumptions that you notice. Like I said, this is just for me to better understand the motivation/benefits/risks/purposes behind roms like AOKP v AOKP Based (slimrom).
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Okay basically everything that's made from scratch or source is pure. Roms that mention they are based on these so called "aosp" "aokp" is pretty much the same thing as the one built from source but its been modified, for example cyanogenmod is built from source, if you download it and modify the ROM, enhance it a bit more, add more features you will have to say it is based on cm as you didn't build it from source or scratch. You used the ROM as a base for your project. Like something you can start from.
Its like a car. A person that owns a car and modifies it, but its based on the original. The original is initially made by scratch. I hope I made sense. Sounded better in my head
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Okay basically everything that's made from scratch or source is pure. Roms that mention they are based on these so called "aosp" "aokp" is pretty much the same thing as the one built from source but its been modified, for example cyanogenmod is built from source, if you download it and modify the ROM, enhance it a bit more, add more features you will have to say it is based on cm as you didn't build it from source or scratch. You used the ROM as a base for your project. Like something you can start from.
Its like a car. A person that owns a car and modifies it, but its based on the original. The original is initially made by scratch. I hope I made sense. Sounded better in my head
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Thank you. Completely makes sense. I guess that's why forums usually have two sections "original development" and Android based development."
Question for anyone:
Are those that are based on something like CM usually and improvement on CM in terms of bugs, etc or is it more just a preference in terms of features?
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yogi217 said:
Thank you. Completely makes sense. I guess that's why forums usually have two sections "original development" and Android based development."
Question for anyone:
Are those that are based on something like CM usually an improvement on CM in terms of bugs, etc or is it more just a preference in terms of features?
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It really depends, some add in more features, some remove features and make is clean. In you way you could say its an improvement but its up to the user as they are the ones that judge it themselves. Some bugs get fixed in the nodded Roms that use cm as base, like I said its all up to the user that mods the ROM. If they want to fix it themselves or wait for a new release.
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It really depends, some add in more features, some remove features and make is clean. In you way you could say its an improvement but its up to the user as they are the ones that judge it themselves. Some bugs get fixed in the nodded Roms that use cm as base, like I said its all up to the user that mods the ROM. If they want to fix it themselves or wait for a new release.
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Thank you. That's what I was thinking, but wanted to make sure. I'm digging this culture. I'm a teacher and interested in independent learning and the support of the online community in mobile software modding and development is very interesting from a learning perspective.
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@yogi217 It actually is quite interesting. I'm sure you'll understand quite a bit about android development in some time. It isn't that hard, just explore and youll come to a point and find out how easy it is. And good luck on your android/mobile development journey!
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Explain Life I'm 5: Besides CM acting like a$$hats, why do we care if they don't support the OPO anymore? Will we not continue to have every single Android update on Slim. PA, crRom and all the other awesome ROMS out there? I haven't received my OPO yet so I'm just trying to keep up while I patiently wait at the mail box everyday hoping to get it before the new year
If CM do decide to completely stop supporting this device, dropping CM11S/CM12S and CM11/CM12, you can wave goodbye to pretty much every custom ROM too because they basically all rely on CM at some point during their development. That isn't likely to happen though.
If CM decide to just drop official support for this device (CM11S/CM12S), it means there's some kind of a breach of contract happening because this phone was guaranteed to receive updates from CM for at least two years. Many people decided to go with this phone because it has CM on it, because it runs a ROM that's much more customisable than any other stock ROM on the market. It's like buying a Mercedes only to be told after six months that they're switching the AMG engine out for a Kia engine, nobody would be happy about that.
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If CM do decide to completely stop supporting this device, dropping CM11S/CM12S and CM11/CM12, you can wave goodbye to pretty much every custom ROM too because they basically all rely on CM at some point during their development. That isn't likely to happen though.
If CM decide to just drop official support for this device (CM11S/CM12S), it means there's some kind of a breach of contract happening because this phone was guaranteed to receive updates from CM for at least two years. Many people decided to go with this phone because it has CM on it, because it runs a ROM that's much more customisable than any other stock ROM on the market. It's like buying a Mercedes only to be told after six months that they're switching the AMG engine out for a Kia engine, nobody would be happy about that.
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Obviously I'm no dev, but could a CM based ROM be compiled independent of CM just by having the source code. I just assumed in my few years of flashing crap that how it worked. As long as you had the source code from Google/OEM you could compile what ever you needed. Again, I have never tried to develop anything.
TigerDNA said:
Obviously I'm no dev, but could a CM based ROM be compiled independent of CM just by having the source code. I just assumed in my few years of flashing crap that how it worked. As long as you had the source code from Google/OEM you could compile what ever you needed. Again, I have never tried to develop anything.
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OnePlus is reportedly working on a CM-free version of a ROM for their phones, including their flagship, the One.
About the independent developers, yes, they are basing their builds on Cyanogen "base", but wouldnt be the end of the world if CM would stop developing their version, since Cyanogen is actually basing on a base Android ROM too, this means that somebody would take over the same features and develop them from scratch or even base from some of the open source from Cyanogen since, Android is Open and most of their developemt community is open too, and who knows, while it would take time, maybe will come with something better, not that i believe CM is bad.
Come on Oneplus, employ the guys over at slim roms or PA, let them make the roms for the phone if CM wants to be jackholes. My only concern is that, is it now possible that CM would push crappy updates to the phone just to be dicks, full of bugs and problems or worse, brick some phones?
TigerDNA said:
Obviously I'm no dev, but could a CM based ROM be compiled independent of CM just by having the source code. I just assumed in my few years of flashing crap that how it worked. As long as you had the source code from Google/OEM you could compile what ever you needed. Again, I have never tried to develop anything.
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Satorikn said:
OnePlus is reportedly working on a CM-free version of a ROM for their phones, including their flagship, the One.
About the independent developers, yes, they are basing their builds on Cyanogen "base", but wouldnt be the end of the world if CM would stop developing their version, since Cyanogen is actually basing on a base Android ROM too, this means that somebody would take over the same features and develop them from scratch or even base from some of the open source from Cyanogen since, Android is Open and most of their developemt community is open too, and who knows, while it would take time, maybe will come with something better, not that i believe CM is bad.
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That isn't the case. There's so much stuff that relies on work done by CM, I'm not sure you're quite grasping exactly how integral to development CM are. It isn't just a base. It's the kernel, it's the device trees, the list goes on and on. Yes, if CM were to disappear there would still be development, but there'd be a massive hole to fill.
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amd-dude said:
Come on Oneplus, employ the guys over at slim roms or PA, let them make the roms for the phone if CM wants to be jackholes. My only concern is that, is it now possible that CM would push crappy updates to the phone just to be dicks, full of bugs and problems or worse, brick some phones?
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You're not serious are you?
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timmaaa said:
That isn't the case. There's so much stuff that relies on work done by CM, I'm not sure you're quite grasping exactly how integral to development CM are. It isn't just a base. It's the kernel, it's the device trees, the list goes on and on. Yes, if CM were to disappear there would still be development, but there'd be a massive hole to fill.
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I do, i am aware they its just not putting a base rom and skinning it, there's a lot of hardware architecture and software architecture (kernel) involved. But in this era, and open software, it would be a matter of time before somebody else can take charge, would not be the end of the world.
Kinda, I mean it's not impossible for CM to be childish and push bug filled software (after all their responses toward oneplus have not exactly oozed trustworthy)
amd-dude said:
Kinda, I mean it's not impossible for CM to be childish and push bug filled software (after all their responses toward oneplus have not exactly oozed trustworthy)
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Honestly, it's a pretty ridiculous notion. The fact that they've had a falling out with OnePlus doesn't even for a second suggest that they'd take it out on the end user, and that's all they'd be doing.
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timmaaa said:
Honestly, it's a pretty ridiculous notion. The fact that they've had a falling out with OnePlus doesn't even for a second suggest that they'd take it out on the end user, and that's all they'd be doing.
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Well by screwing the end user they would screw oneplus, I honestly won't put anything past any company these days in the pursuit of money.
timmaaa said:
That isn't the case. There's so much stuff that relies on work done by CM, I'm not sure you're quite grasping exactly how integral to development CM are. It isn't just a base. It's the kernel, it's the device trees, the list goes on and on. Yes, if CM were to disappear there would still be development, but there'd be a massive hole to fill.
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I really don't know how much we rely on CM. I just think of it like, CM is free, once they release their stuff, anyone can take it and do what ever to it.
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Well by screwing the end user they would screw oneplus, I honestly won't put anything past any company these days in the pursuit of money.
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They have no reason to do so though. They would not benefit from it at all.
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I rather plain nexus like experience any cm is just too buggy and has been on every device I have owned and ran with their roms