[Q] Possible to replace stock dialer with Hangouts Dialer? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

With the recent release of the Hangouts Dialer, I finally decided to go all in with Google Voice for all my calls/texts.
I was successfully able to update my phone's settings so that any calls/texts coming in to my Google Voice number go into the new Hangouts Dialer app. However, if someone calls my regular T-Mobile number, the stock dialer is still used to receive the call. My question is, has anyone figured out how to use the Hangouts Dialer with their carrier phone number? And if you have figured this out, is it as simple as disabling the stock dialer to ensure it never intercepts any calls?

Removing the stock dialler will prevent the phone booting. I'm not sure at what point in the boot process package manager "freezes" apps but I would suggest disabling the dialer is a really bad idea.
As for the rest of your question, not sure.
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Thanks for the heads up. After digging around, it looks like my best current solution is just to make sure everyone I stay in contact with uses my GV number instead. Any calls/texts coming in through my T-Mobile number will just continue to go through the stock dialer.

sn0warmy said:
Thanks for the heads up. After digging around, it looks like my best current solution is just to make sure everyone I stay in contact with uses my GV number instead. Any calls/texts coming in through my T-Mobile number will just continue to go through the stock dialer.
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when I 1st installed the hangouts dialer I wanted the same, & wonder why the hangouts dialer code simply couldn't be baked into the native one (maybe in L?)
*BUT* I found in the mean time -
Its the stock phone dialer app.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48923078&postcount=4
even with gv, carrier number integration, why we (on sprint) get the double ringing on incoming calls, unless the sprint sim is removed, or cellular data is turned off..
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Question about replacing Voicemail with Google Voicemail

So yesterday I made the switch from using Visual Voicemail to using my Google Voice account as my Voicemail. So far, I LOVE IT (I recommend doing this if you have a GV account). My only concern is that I'm wondering if I need the app constantly running to get notifications of new voicemail? Because I have gbhil's kernel installed with the tweaked memory-killer, so I don't know if the GV app is always running. Can anyone using Google Voice for Voicemail post how they have everything setup? I want to use the least amount of battery with this, so I was thinking maybe only enabling SMS notifications of new Voicemail?
mrinehart93 said:
So yesterday I made the switch from using Visual Voicemail to using my Google Voice account as my Voicemail. So far, I LOVE IT (I recommend doing this if you have a GV account). My only concern is that I'm wondering if I need the app constantly running to get notifications of new voicemail? Because I have gbhil's kernel installed with the tweaked memory-killer, so I don't know if the GV app is always running. Can anyone using Google Voice for Voicemail post how they have everything setup? I want to use the least amount of battery with this, so I was thinking maybe only enabling SMS notifications of new Voicemail?
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Yes, it is always running, and to be honest, it takes up very little battery to be noticed.
You or others might also be interested in this:
http://www.google.com/voice/sprint
Setting this up forwards voicemail from calls to your cell number (not your GV number) on to your Google Voice visual voicemail. In my case, nobody even knows my real cell number, they just call/text GV, but for folks transitioning it could be useful.
Isn't that the same as using Google Voice for your cellphone Voicemail? Anyway, what did it mean by "immediate" forwarding? I didn't quite understand what they meant by that... and I don't want to see a $0.20 charge on each minute/call I use... my dad would get very angry haha.
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I should probably say that right now, I have a Google Voice number, and I have the voicemail setup so that any call I get to my Sprint number gets picked up by the Google Voice number's voicemail... I hope that makes sense?
Yes, setting GV up in "voicemail mode" is a newer feature than when I first got my GV set up, but my roommate has his set up that way. It's pretty much the same but they take out a few of the forwarding features that you wouldn't be using if you're just using it as a voicemail service. (ring multiple phones and such). One thing you'll be glad to hear is that around the end of last year, Sprint decided to drop the charges on conditional call forwarding, as part of a "partnership with google". So, there are NO CHARGES when call forwarding to google voice.
Edit: I see what you're saying. When they say immediate call forwarding, they mean unconditional call forwarding. (forwarding all calls into your sprint number). What you probably want to do is CONDITIONAL call forwarding (forwarding calls when the line is busy, or when there is no answer).. See this link: http://support.sprint.com/support/a...ur_Sprint_phone/case-vw371511-20091020-144925
So you've got [sprint number]->[google voice]->[your phone] Which will be charged because all calls are forwarded to GV, and then GV rings your phone
I have, (and you probably want), [sprint number]->[your phone]->[if no answer, google voice] Which doesn't result in a charge.
Hope that helps
Hmm... I'm still confused about that. With the diagrams above, are you talking about someone calling me? Or me calling someone? Really I don't care about having anything transferred to my GV number... all I want is the voicemail part of it.
What have you done so far? Are you forwarding ALL your calls to google voice first, and then google voice is ringing your phone? (*72 forwarding?)
What I'm trying to get across here is that you want all your incoming calls to go to your phone first, then if you're busy or there it isn't answered, it will go to google voice, which will automatically pick up and go to voicemail when you have your phone set to "activate google voicemail on this phone" in your Google Voice settings.
If you currently have it set up to forward all your incoming calls to your google voice number, then google voice rings your cellphone afterwards, you will be charged for this type of call forwarding. You don't want to set it up this way if you're just using google voice for voicemail.
If you followed the setup that GV gives you for voicemail, they have you use *285555555555 (replace 5s with number you want to forward to. In this case, your GV number), which is what you want to use. This forwards calls to the specified number, after you either don't pick up your cellphone, or you're currently in a call. (*38 turns this off)
In contrast:
*725555555555 (again, replace 5s with the number to forward to) forwards all incoming calls to your sprint number to whatever number you specify. This charges you monies. Don't use this one. If you have done this, turn it off by dialing *720
Yes, I have the first thing you said currently. Basically if someone calls me (Sprint number), and I'm not there and they leave a voicemail, it leaves the voicemail with Google Voice. I then use the GV app to listen to my voicemail. I think I understand it now. So basically all I want to do is click "Enable Voicemail on this phone"? How would I go about setting it up so that all calls are forwarded to my Google Voice number (just so I don't accidentally do this)?
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If you followed the setup that GV gives you for voicemail, they have you use *285555555555 (replace 5s with number you want to forward to. In this case, your GV number), which is what you want to use. This forwards calls to the specified number, after you either don't pick up your cellphone, or you're currently in a call. (*38 turns this off)
In contrast:
*725555555555 (again, replace 5s with the number to forward to) forwards all incoming calls to your sprint number to whatever number you specify. This charges you monies. Don't use this one. If you have done this, turn it off by dialing *720
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That makes A LOT of sense! Thanks! I think this is resolved. Maybe this should be stickied or something so other people don't get confused with this.
Maybe I'll make a Google Voice for dummies writeup, since I haven't really contributed anything of substance here yet
But I went through this same thing late last year, GV can be very confusing for people that haven't used it.
Ok, so I just got done with a chat with Sprint, and I had called myself with these Google Voice settings, and according to Sprint, no $0.20 charge had been made to my bill. Looks like this is awesome! Thanks so much!
No problem. I'm working on a more substantial writeup right now, so that hopefully people won't run into these confusions again.
Quick question, what is the best way to set GV up so that I don't need to have Mobile Network (EvDO) constantly on? I only really ever have EvDO enabled when I need to use it so I can save battery life.
Well, I don't ever turn mine off, but I'd guess you'd just need internet connectivity to check and download your GV messages. If you don't mind not being updated the moment you get a new message, then there's nothing you'd have to do. (I mean you'll know when you get a missed call, if your phone is on, obviously) But if you REALLY need to know right away when you get a new message, you can turn on SMS notifications in GV settings.
Your phone still has internet connectivity in 1x only mode, it's just not as fast.
ldleblanc said:
Your phone still has internet connectivity in 1x only mode, it's just not as fast.
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Well, he said he was turning off 'mobile network'. When I turn off 'mobile network' in my settings, I don't get ANY internet connectivity. I'm pretty sure it disables it entirely, regardless of connection type
Btw, I've got my tutorial writeup over in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633196

AT&T Messages - visual voicemail plus garbage

Since I haven't been able to get my Google Voice set up with this device for some reason, I decided to set up visual voicemail through AT&T's "Messages" app. I had called 611 to figure out why GV wasn't working and the rep pointed me to this app. So far, it seems to work fine EXCEPT it also grabs my text messages and missed calls.
I'd rather not have two notification for every missed call (yes, it pops something in the notification bar for missed calls, as does the standard phone app). At this point, I don't even care which one is going to track them, I just want to turn one of their notifications off! Has anyone figured out a way to do that? Or, alternately, is there another way to access my AT&T visual voicemail without their messages app?
belyle said:
Since I haven't been able to get my Google Voice set up with this device for some reason, I decided to set up visual voicemail through AT&T's "Messages" app. I had called 611 to figure out why GV wasn't working and the rep pointed me to this app. So far, it seems to work fine EXCEPT it also grabs my text messages and missed calls.
I'd rather not have two notification for every missed call (yes, it pops something in the notification bar for missed calls, as does the standard phone app). At this point, I don't even care which one is going to track them, I just want to turn one of their notifications off! Has anyone figured out a way to do that? Or, alternately, is there another way to access my AT&T visual voicemail without their messages app?
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You can set-up google voice here is how to do it.
Go on to google.com/voice and go into settings.
Click activate your phone, and follow the instructions (it will tell you to type in a code on the Dialer).
Then, install the google voice app, and run through the set-up, you will fail on the configuring voicemail steps but thats okay.
Call 611 (ATT Technical support) and have them manually change your voice-mail number to your google voice number.
Done. Enjoy google voice as voicemail. The app will work as intended.
warri said:
You can set-up google voice here is how to do it.
Go on to google.com/voice and go into settings.
Click activate your phone, and follow the instructions (it will tell you to type in a code on the Dialer).
Then, install the google voice app, and run through the set-up, you will fail on the configuring voicemail steps but thats okay.
Call 611 (ATT Technical support) and have them manually change your voice-mail number to your google voice number.
Done. Enjoy google voice as voicemail. The app will work as intended.
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I have Google voice only to be voicemail; I don't currently use it for any calls. It looks like my Voice call-in number is a generic voicemail call-in number (although tbh I haven't tried calling that number to see what happens). Is that the number that I'd give AT&T?
Yes you give them your Google Voice number (you had to set one up when you got google voice)
If you go to https://www.google.com/voice#phones
You should see listed your google voice number, and your phone that you need to activate.
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Yes you give them your Google Voice number (you had to set one up when you got google voice)
If you go to https://www.google.com/voice#phones
You should see listed your google voice number, and your phone that you need to activate.
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I tried this, and now cannot receive any calls. I think that the number that's shown there is a generic voicemail only mail. Going to try setting up a google voice number and do it again.
Edit to add: OK, I set myself up with a brand spanking new google voice number, had to monkey around on my phone a bit in "call" settings in the settings menu to fix my call forwarding. I repeated the steps, but didn't have to call AT&T again and everything is working goodly now.
I had sprint before I got my One X. Google Voice was set up just fine on that phone, but I want to have it on my One X now.
When I go to www.google.com/voice#phones I see my phone number but the carrier is listed as Sprint. Should I just change it to AT&T? Then run through the app setup? Not sure what to do here...
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I'd rather not have two notification for every missed call (yes, it pops something in the notification bar for missed calls, as does the standard phone app). At this point, I don't even care which one is going to track them, I just want to turn one of their notifications off! Has anyone figured out a way to do that? Or, alternately, is there another way to access my AT&T visual voicemail without their messages app?
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Has anybody found an answer for this?
Did you guys see this topic?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1452330
It's the Visual Voicemail app that other android LTE phones use (Vivid, Skyrocket).
Caveat: Since you added att messages, you will need to uninstall it first, and then call AT&T and ask them to revert you to basic voicemail. When you call your voicemail, you notice the voice prompts have changed from before, yes? That switched you to a different VM system incompatible with the old VVM app.
When I called, they switched me to LTE without VVM - i was able to just change from my online account back to regular LTE (with vvm) and install the app and voicemail was all setup and I was ready to go. I'm not sure if asking them to switch you to "old" vvm would work, their system might only show that you have VVM already.
This aforementioned app does voicemails only.

Hangouts Google Voice Integration! Nexus 5 WiFi calls [INFO]]

Hello Everyone,
Since everyone is so hyped about the new Voice integration with hangouts and more specifically, we finally have the ability to make outgoing call without using 3rd party programs, still no MMS with the google voice number but the outgoing calling alone is awesome.
Anyway, since this is XDA and the new functionality gives XDA's plenty of money saving ideas I'm certain of that, here goes.
HANGOUTS & GOOGLE VOICE = 1.6 MB PER HOUR OF CALLING
DISCLAIMER
That is an amazingly low amount of data! I ran this test making a 3 minutes phone using my nexus 5 on LTE. It's by far not a scientific test but a very good estimate of how much data you can save making calls with GOOGLE VOICE THRU HANGOUTS. I'm sure you 30$ a month 5GB t-mobile people can put this to good use, I know I will! (Goodbye stupid deadzones in Brooklyn College ) Finally us Nexus 5 owners have a more legitimate way of making WiFi calls since T-mobile ditched us on that one. I'm plenty excited about all of this! What do you guys think? How will you be using the new outgoing calls feature?
LASTLY
The updated hangouts apk is below in case you didn't get the update yet like me. enjoy!​
I am so anxious for this integration. I've already got the new apk and dialer installed, now I keep checking Hangouts for the popup to integrate SMS and voicemail from GV into hangouts. Wish there was a way to force it like the search for OK Google Everywhere.
WisdomWolf said:
I am so anxious for this integration. I've already got the new apk and dialer installed, now I keep checking Hangouts for the popup to integrate SMS and voicemail from GV into hangouts. Wish there was a way to force it like the search for OK Google Everywhere.
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Same, although my rom still has CM Voice+ and it's still handling the integration quite well. I currently use Groove Forwarder from the play store to switch my GV forwarding based on location. I'm very curious if it will still be functional once I'm integrated, as currently, I don't see any options in the new Hangouts app to determine what number rings. If it stays this way, I'll end up getting double rings (dialer & Hangouts) when someone calls my GV number.
adrman said:
Same, although my rom still has CM Voice+ and it's still handling the integration quite well. I currently use Groove Forwarder from the play store to switch my GV forwarding based on location. I'm very curious if it will still be functional once I'm integrated, as currently, I don't see any options in the new Hangouts app to determine what number rings. If it stays this way, I'll end up getting double rings (dialer & Hangouts) when someone calls my GV number.
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I have the same double ring problem. I'd like to see an option to only accept/make Hangouts calls over wifi because I use Llama to disable the cell radio when on wifi at home (because the cell signal is very poor and it drains my battery very fast and also because I have a Ting "metered" plan and trying to keep usage as low as possible -- basically on cell only when away from home, wifi otherwise). I currently use the older version of GrooveIP, but was hoping to be able to move to Hangouts.
WisdomWolf said:
I am so anxious for this integration. I've already got the new apk and dialer installed, now I keep checking Hangouts for the popup to integrate SMS and voicemail from GV into hangouts. Wish there was a way to force it like the search for OK Google Everywhere.
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Me too, I keep thinking that maybe I did something wrong and I'm being left out, but Google's just rolling the server-side changes out slowly, I've read. Such anxiety
This actually works for every Android device that can use hangouts/google voice too. Right now I have it on my Galaxy Player, and it works great. I'm glad that Google finally integrated google voice, because it makes things a lot easier lol. I'm surprised that this isn't getting a lot of news.
We still need the GV app to send texts, right? Or am I missing something and it's possible to text using your GV number from the Hangouts app?
sirxdroid said:
We still need the GV app to send texts, right? Or am I missing something and it's possible to text using your GV number from the Hangouts app?
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I'm checking on it right now, but it seems that you don't need the GV app anymore. You should be able to text using your GV number in hangouts. I'm setting mine up right now.
Here's the topic that google created to set up GV with Hangouts. I ran into a problem where I had to disconnect hangouts in gmail, and then reconnect it to see the Google Voice option in the settings.
https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/6023920?hl=en&ref_topic=3187124
obscuresword said:
I'm checking on it right now, but it seems that you don't need the GV app anymore. You should be able to text using your GV number in hangouts. I'm setting mine up right now.
Here's the topic that google created to set up GV with Hangouts. I ran into a problem where I had to disconnect hangouts in gmail, and then reconnect it to see the Google Voice option in the settings.
https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/6023920?hl=en&ref_topic=3187124
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Ah, thanks. They don't make it easy to find. Same deal with the Hangouts Dialer, jumping through many hoops to set it all up. I guess they don't want to piss off the carriers just yet.
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I ran into a problem where I had to disconnect hangouts in gmail, and then reconnect it to see the Google Voice option in the settings.
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By disconnect do you mean sign or and then sign back in?
OK, more help needed: how do I switch the number and SMS is sent from when starting a new conversation? I like the "smart reply" option, but sometimes I want to send from the GV number, other times from my cell number (in particular for MMS).
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By disconnect do you mean sign or and then sign back in?
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By disconnect I mean reverting back to the original chat in gmail, then going back to hangouts.
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sirxdroid said:
Ah, thanks. They don't make it easy to find. Same deal with the Hangouts Dialer, jumping through many hoops to set it all up. I guess they don't want to piss off the carriers just yet.
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Nope also to answer your Google voice question further when trying to access or send message you get this screen. However, I had to unchecked merge messages to even get it to send with hangouts lol.
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By disconnect I mean reverting back to the original chat in gmail, then going back to hangouts.
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That did the trick!
hangout issue
Hey has anyone had the issue where hangout calls connects, but you get can't hear anything. Basically only one end of the line gets sound for some reason. each time i had to hang up and try again.
I haven't on the 2 test calls I made. Any suspicions as to why its happening?
Whats your OS or ROM, Phone, Network, what was your coverage like. Wifi or mobile network.
The more info the better
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Not working for me, still using cell minutes when making calls
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Edit: I think I figured it out, if I use the phone dialer it asks if I want to use Google voice, it uses minutes, if I skip it and use the hangouts dialer no minutes. So do I need GV installed at all?
Don't need Voicemail on GV, I can use T-Mobile Visual Voicemail.
in order to receive wifi calls there is box to check in settings plus
in google voice settings [web page] I had to stop google from forwarding my google # to my phone [uncheck nexus 5]
this keeps google from forwarding the call twice and keeps the native dialer blocking the hangouts dialer
I'm on wifi 95% of the time so this should lower my $12 Ting bill to $9 on a normal month.
norwoodesteel said:
in order to receive wifi calls there is box to check in settings plus
in google voice settings [web page] I had to stop google from forwarding my google # to my phone [uncheck nexus 5]
this keeps google from forwarding the call twice and keeps the native dialer blocking the hangouts dialer
I'm on wifi 95% of the time so this should lower my $12 Ting bill to $9 on a normal month.
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How is Ting. My friend recommended me to get it, but I don't know it I want that or Republic Wireless lo. Also did you figure out how to send SMS with Hangouts via Google Voice?
Theres actually a setting telling you to activate the sms thru hangouts.
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Google Voice shows random number instead of dialed number in call log

Is anybody here using Google Voice on their Flex 2? I have this issue where outgoing calls made through Google Voice are recorded in the stock phone app's call log as some random number, not the number I just dialed. I did a little a little research, and Google Voice apparently routes all outgoing voice calls through a "gateway" or "access" number. That must be the random number that's showing in my call log. But this was never a problem on all the Android phones I've owned (and I've had many) and all the different ROMs I've flashed over the years. For example, Google Voice shows the actual numbers I dialed on my previous LG G2, Samsung Galaxy S4, LG G Pro, Nexus 4, etc.
If anyone can confirm this is also happening on their LG Flex 2, then I'll know it's not just me.
Mine showed the corrected # on both side. I'm on H950 5.1.1. Maybe you can update your google voice app.
That's the way it works on iPhones. I've never seen the Google Voice "hidden routing" number show up in the native call log on any android phone I've used. (That hidden routing number in Google Voice parlance is sometimes referenced as the "grandcentral" number which was the company that Google Voice bought when it started). If you notice, your "grandcentral" number actually shows up in the background (you can of see it in small numbers in your Google Voice app for a half second) when dialing a call from your Google Voice App.
Is it happening for calls you're making from even your Contacts, or just unknown numbers that you dial manually? (Not that I'd have anything to add or offer, but I"m just curious). Are you running stock, or are you modded in any way? (Again, I'm just curious).
I actually prefer the way Apple does it so you can see the number in your call log. It's handy to have. It's a static number that doesn't change for your Google contact. You can save it and dial it directly from any phone -- even without data or making a landline call -- and the call shows up on the other end that you're calling from your Google Voice number.
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Mine showed the corrected # on both side. I'm on H950 5.1.1. Maybe you can update your google voice app.
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I'm already on the newest version of the Google Voice app. I'm on a LS996 running 5.1.1, but I'm firmware version ZV6. I believe the newest 5.1.1 stock firmware is ZV9. I wonder if upgrading to ZV9 will fix the problem What 5.1.1 firmware version are you on?
I'm on 11x.
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That's the way it works on iPhones. I've never seen the Google Voice "hidden routing" number show up in the native call log on any android phone I've used. (That hidden routing number in Google Voice parlance is sometimes referenced as the "grandcentral" number which was the company that Google Voice bought when it started). If you notice, your "grandcentral" number actually shows up in the background (you can of see it in small numbers in your Google Voice app for a half second) when dialing a call from your Google Voice App.
Is it happening for calls you're making from even your Contacts, or just unknown numbers that you dial manually? (Not that I'd have anything to add or offer, but I"m just curious). Are you running stock, or are you modded in any way? (Again, I'm just curious).
I actually prefer the way Apple does it so you can see the number in your call log. It's handy to have. It's a static number that doesn't change for your Google contact. You can save it and dial it directly from any phone -- even without data or making a landline call -- and the call shows up on the other end that you're calling from your Google Voice number.
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I see the Google routing phone number in my call log for all the outgoing calls I make. It doesn't matter if I dial someone from my Contacts or I manually dial the number. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "dialing a call from your Google Voice App". I'm dialing by tapping on names in my Contacts app, or by tapping out numbers in the stock Phone app. I only open the Google Voice app to look at text messages or listen to recorded voicemail messages.
I'm using a Sprint LS996 and running the stock 5.1.1 firmware version ZV6. No mods. If Google Voice is working on your Flex 2 and showing the real outgoing numbers in your call log, may I ask if you're running a Sprint LS996 or an AT&T H950? Maybe it's just an issue in the stock LS996 ROM. Like I said, I never had this issue in any of the other Android phones I've owned.
I'm not sure why you say it's preferable that Apple shows the Google routing number instead of the actual number dialed. Why would you want to see phone numbers you don't recognize in your call history log? Why would you want or need to save that routing number and dial it directly? If you already have that person's real phone number, what is the advantage of having another strange number for that same person?
Oh yeah, I messed up on the part of "dialing from my GV App." Sorry about that. I was confused about where I see that grandcentral number when I make a phone call. I thought I only saw it if I initiated a call from the GV app, and even when I do that it just goes to the native dialer and I see it every time.
This is what I meant: On my phone, when I make a call, whether from contacts are just using the regular dialer, the top line shows my contact and/or the number I'm calling; the second line reads "call forwarding is enabled" the third line in blue reads "CALLING VIA GOOGLE VOICE" (that line is capped on my phone) and then the grandcentral number.
I'm using the AT&T H950. Did you by chance disable call forwarding? I remember when I had sprint it didn't play nice with Google Voice. Integrating voice mail (I can't remember exactly what the problem) but it was something like call forwarding didn't work very well with Sprint (and its MVNO's) and Google Voice.
As to your last question why I prefer seeing the grandcentral number in the call log is for personal and nostalgic reasons, and I probably shouldn't have even mentioned it because the whole thing is pretty much moot and pointless now, but I might as well briefly explain. In the early days of Google Voice, which wasn't that long ago, smartphones and cheap data weren't ubiquitous and a lot of us were using dumb phones. It wasn't easy using dumb phones with Google Voice, especially texting, because that unknown number or the grandcentral number was confusing as heck to both you and the person you were texting. If you could find out what number Google Voice was routing to your contact (without using the GV app like on a dumb phone) then it made texting easier.
Now someone is probably going to jump in, or they are thinking, it was easy to text with Google Voice on a dumb phone, because there were easy workarounds like just starting the text from your computer. True, but if you wanted to initiate the text, and you didn't have access to a computer or data, it was convenient to have that grandcentral number saved in your contacts. It was always kind of hard finding that grandcentral number. Even on Android phones you have to take a screenshot, so I kind of liked having that number in the call log and being able to see it. In a way, that's really the number your calling anyway, at least that's the way I look at it.
Anyway, it doesn't really matter now since we use smartphones and have near universal cell and cheap data plans.
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wtang said:
It doesn't matter if I dial someone from my Contacts or I manually dial the number.
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I should just explain why I asked that question too. I was just curious to know if there was any differentiation between unknown manually dialed numbers and saved contact numbers. I wouldn't have been able to offer any insight if in fact there was a difference between the two. I was simply curious. In my experience the Google Voice App, and routing calls through Google Voice on a mobile device, always works better for numbers you've called before with that device. I think the info gets cached in the phone's Google Voice app once used.
if your going to use google voice you should use hangouts it's a much better experience You can make and receive calls, send and receive text messages,MMS and listen to your voicemails even if you don't have a active phone service all just using WIFI download the hangout dialer from the playstore If you want to use the stock dialer app on your device but have your Google Voice number appear on caller ID, keep the original Google Voice app and select the use Google Voice to make all calls in the settings Additionally, you set the Hangouts Dialer app as your default dialer, which will display your Google Voice number on Caller ID.
Google is removing texts feature from Hangouts soon
I've been using hangouts since being integrated with Google Voice that's just a rumor going around since november that they would drop SMS features but I doubt it I'm in the latest version 7.0 i still send and receive text messages just fine
Just an update for everyone. I flashed back to unrooted stock ZV6, then I applied the ZV7, ZV8, and ZV9 OTA updates. Now that I'm on ZV9, which is the latest stock Sprint ROM, I decided to test Google Voice again. Well, the call history log in the stock phone dialer still shows the Google Voice routing number, not the actual number I dialed. I guess something is different (better) in the AT&T firmware that fixes this Google Voice issue because folks here using the AT&T H950 don't have the issue.

Question Inferior phone and voicemail apps (Google Fi)

My question is how can I get a feature-rich phone/voicemail app for my new Samsung? My new flip was bought through Google Fi and the phone dialer and voicemail apps are vastly inferior to the app on my previous two phones also from Fi where these functions were integrated into one app. The old app or one very similar is in the play store as "Phone by Google" but when installed on the Flip the voicemail features are disabled and the option to turn them on in settings is greyed out. I interpret this to mean that Samsung has placed some kind of lock on this feature. Right now I can get transcription but it requires an awkward workaround that sends the voicemail to the text messaging app.
I would be happy if I could either get the Google app to work or another app with similar capabilities. When I speak of capabilities I would include transcription of voicemails and the ability to take actions on a phone number from the voicemail without having to memorize the number, navigate to the separate phone app, manually find the number, and finally take whatever actions such as blocking the number. As it stands I can't get the Google app to work and I do not see any viable alternatives in the play store and even if there were alternatives I would probably have the same problem with the voicemail blocked.
Cubeology said:
My question is how can I get a feature-rich phone/voicemail app for my new Samsung? My new flip was bought through Google Fi and the phone dialer and voicemail apps are vastly inferior to the app on my previous two phones also from Fi where these functions were integrated into one app. The old app or one very similar is in the play store as "Phone by Google" but when installed on the Flip the voicemail features are disabled and the option to turn them on in settings is greyed out. I interpret this to mean that Samsung has placed some kind of lock on this feature. Right now I can get transcription but it requires an awkward workaround that sends the voicemail to the text messaging app.
I would be happy if I could either get the Google app to work or another app with similar capabilities. When I speak of capabilities I would include transcription of voicemails and the ability to take actions on a phone number from the voicemail without having to memorize the number, navigate to the separate phone app, manually find the number, and finally take whatever actions such as blocking the number. As it stands I can't get the Google app to work and I do not see any viable alternatives in the play store and even if there were alternatives I would probably have the same problem with the voicemail blocked.
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I agree that the Samsung dialer is inferior to the google dialer. I switched to the google dialer but the back screen doesn't work properly with calls. I switched back to the Samsung dialer which seems 10 years old.
I use Google phone dialer, haven't noticed any issues. When I was with Verizon, messages showed up fine as VM, but no transcription as wasn't supported on the plan I had. Switched to Tmobile, VM stopped working, they made me download their VM app, so I'm guessing service you are on dictates which app and how VM works. Because of this I've gone back to forwarding all VM to Google Voice and now get my transcripts and ability to archive VM, as well as forward and many other svs. Only negative I've had is if I call back the caller from GV, it uses their number, not the carrier number. Most of the time the caller leaves a different number to call back anyway, so I have to copy past from the transcription. So, if I can one click to call back, I just go back to the dialer, look for missed call, and call them back from there if the call back number js the same. I keep GV set on do not disturb so I'm never bothered with calls to that number, and still use GV to make all calls to people I don't want to have my cell, and when they call me it goes to VM automatically. Google Phone Dialer has also done an excellent job keeping spam from reaching me, I can't use the Google call intercept to verify caller, Pixel feature only, but the spam blocker seems to still work great.

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