About buying an M2 - Sony Xperia M2

Hi, I am an owner of an Xperia L.
I want to buy a Xperia M2 and I want to ask some questions
1) I have read many bad things about the camera. Is it really that worse?
2) How long can the battery last with mobile Data and Wi-Fi activated?
3) Any other pros or contras?
Thank you in advance.
Macmol

1. Front camera is very bad, considering it's a VGA camera. Rear camera's only good after Kitkat update
2. It can last you a full day of work ( at least that's my impression )
3. Pros: Root is possible on both JB and KK; CM11 is coming ( maybe CM12 aka Android L ). Cons: low resolution screen ( isn't even HD, but that helps the battery life of 2300mAh ); the back of the phone needs protection from fingerprints; low internal storage ( 4GBs usable ); RAM problem ( only 1GB )
If I miss something please correct me

Today I'm gonna take a Xperia M2, so, I reserved this topic (which I'll edit later to make my opinion with the phone in my hands).
But, I have a topic created by me which has a discussion about Xperia M2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-m2/general/device-moto-g-lte-xperia-m2-t2885938
There is it.
Regards!
Edit: Now I have the Xperia M2 (D2306 Model), and, everything went too fine. Processor, apps, Data Transmission, but, the only thing that makes me get depressed was the camera (Rear and Front). I tried to update to 4.4.2 KitKat but my phone says that the updates are up to date. So, there isn't any update KitKat for my smartphone. Any ideas to get updated? Thanks btw.

According to me:
1. Front camera is bad (of course) but I never use it. Rear camera is solid after the KitKat upgrade, no more black grains in the photos when zoomed. It is now completely satisfactory.
2. It lasts me full two days of work, using all the regular phone and social apps and a bit of (simple) gaming too. I have to say that I have all push notifications turned off, and I am using Greenify with Xposed framework in Boost mode. The battery is the best of any smartphone I have handled in the last 3 years.
3. Rooting is very easy on KitKat, and CM11 should not be far down the road. The phone works very well and is very responsive with the stock firmware too. CWM is available since a few days ago.
4. The screen is not HD, but is perfectly OK for the web, reading, playing games etc. This is a big plus for the battery life.
5. The front screen tends to have fingerprints. It is wise to protect the back with some type of a casing, as it can be scratched easily.
Everything in hand, price/performance, the M2 is a very good choice for a regular user.

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iOcean G7 review

*Moved from different thread - this suits better*
Hello everyone,
just made this review about the iOcean G7 a while ago. I cannot post any links or videos yet so I made a small site, for the single purpose it looks a bit better and I can post the photo's and video I made. chinahardware.info/?page_id=9
I left out all the Antutu benchmark stuff, there is already plenty of that to be found. I hope someone finds it informative
Contents
Intro & Specifications.
Screen/Display.
Camera.
Sound.
Overall use & Connectivity.
Conclusion.
Intro & Specifications
Welcome to this iOcean G7 review
The G7 is not the first phone of the Chinese iOcean company but definitely one with a new design. If you are not familiar with the iOcean company you can look up their website iocean.cc or go to their Facebook page. The phone that had put iOcean in the spotlights was the X7 Youth. It has (still) good specifications with a surprisingly low price, making it a very tempting choice. After the X7 Youth there were more ‘adult’ versions as the Turbo, Plus and Elite, all with different sets of specifications and prices. One thing remained: the design. All the X7 models are the same except for their internal hardware components. With the G7 the designers at iOcean made daring step. They slightly changed the design but more obvious: they changed the size of the phone. Where all X7 versions were enjoying a neat 5 inch FULL-HD display, the G7 has a gigantic screen size of 6.44 inch, technically making it a phablet (phone/tablet).
This devices comes with the latest of the MediaTek processors: the MT6592, an octacore processor with the Mali 450 GPU to support it with graphical applications.
My personal questions were if I would be enjoying carrying this colossal phone around and if the GPS-problems with the MediaTek MT6592 would finally come to an end.
Specifications:
General
OS Android 4.2.2
Chipset Octacore Mediatek
CPU 1.7Ghz MT6592
GPU Mali-450 700Mhz
RAM 2GB
Battery 3500mAh
Two Camera’s:
Rear camera 13 mega-pixel
Features F2.0 aperture
LED flash Yes
Video [email protected]
Front camera 5-mega-pixel
Memory
Internal 16GB
SD card Yes: support up to 32GB
Network support
Dual-sim Yes
WCDMA 2100MHz/900MHz
GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
Body
Dimensions (mm) 175 x 90.5 x 8.9mm
Weight (g) 205 grams
Colors Black and White (and perhaps a red one?)
Screen/Display
Let’s start with what is most obvious about the device when you see it: the enormous display. With a 6.44 inch display the G7 is one of the biggest devices I ever worked with. It is quite a bit bigger than the Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
For the technicians amongst you: the devices comes with a Retina LTPS display and is an OGS, which stands for One Glass Solution. So the screen will be thin with good viewing angles. Since a large amount of the surface of the phone is consisting out of glass, I am glad they processed the screen with laminated glass, meaning it consists of two or more layers of glass and bonding interlayers before fused together though autoclave or chemically.
The above shows us that the display is big, thin, highly scratch-resistant and with the Retina LTPS it also means the display is bright and vivid. When the screen is on full brightness it is very useable in light areas and outside. I used it for a couple of days now and even on these sunny days I could easily read the screen.
This is supported with a stunning 1920×1080 resolution, granting the screen 342 pixels-per-inch. I used the iOcean X7 with 440 pixels-per-inch and I could see some difference but you would have to look closely and search for it. 342 PPI is still very impressive for a screen size this big and reading text is a real charm on this device. Giving the device a higher resolution screen would not benefit the price and the performance of the G7 and I personally think this was the right decision.
In the box I also found a screen protector which I applied directly but since the layered protection of the screen itself I think this is a personal choice.
Another bonus is the fact that you can operate the device wearing gloves or with wet hands. I found out these few days that the display is highly sensitive and I do no longer need my touch screen gloves in the winter which is a real big plus.
Camera
The camera of the G7 is even being used by iOcean to take photos of the new X8 model, which is coming up halfway in April, for their Facebook page. If the company itself is confident enough about the quality is has to say something, right? The G7 enjoys a 13 mega-pixel rear camera which out-of-the-box shoots at 9.5 mega-pixel. This is probably done to save memory and to quicken up the burst-shoot function. At 9.5 MP all photos will be more than sufficient for most uses: Facebook, Twitter, emailing them to friends/family, etc. Switching to 13 MP decreases the field of view as well a bit of speed in burst-mode but it is still very fast and it is barely noticeable. The front camera is 5 mega-pixel and can be used for conference and video calling or to make the much loved selfie. A trend is to not only increase the mega-pixels of the phone but also the aperture of the lens, meaning more light can travel inside which tends to produce better pictures.
I shot some pictures with the G7 myself and I can tell you they are of very good quality. I used different kind of settings; all photos taken inside were under medium-light conditions and outside it is clearly a sunny day. (They are shown on the website.)
One of the things I like to do with my phone is to watch videos on YouTube, mostly with other people. The low quality of the sound and especially the low maximum volume most of the other Chinese phone suffer from sometimes takes the fun away in doing that but with the G7 that will not be the case. The sound can be set to a very loud level while maintaining good quality with no distortion.
Now, something pleasant happened when I laid the phone on its back while playing music: sound actually got better! Thanks to a very smart design feature the G7 device does not fully touch the surface and thereby covering up the speaker grill. A small tab, looking a bit like a stub of the speaker grill, is attached so room is left between the surface and the device hence the sound waves can move freely. It gives a powerful and full sound which I have not heard with many devices. One small point could be that it makes the phone wiggle a bit when lain down but I highly doubt that would bother anyone.
Overall use & Connectivity
The biggest question for me was whether the G7 would fit in my pocket but even with the flip case it fits. Though it is completely understandable when someone would go for the somewhat smaller X7 or better the X8 in April. This is definitely not a one-handed device and both hands are needed to type. It is very useable for watch movies, series, YouTube and the like as reading and typing text. I am a forced user of the public transport every day and I use that time to read rapports for work, etc. Still not as comfortable as a good physical keyboard, on the 6.44 inch screen it is now also workable to edit and type text.
The overall build quality is very good with no plastic-squeaks, a strongly fit back cover and pretty narrow bezels. The only real point of criticism is that the three android control buttons on the chin of the phone do not lit up so in the dark. This may provide an issue when not completely familiar with the device.
The device supports all normal connectivity frequencies used in the West: for Wi-Fi: 802.11 a/b/g/n for both 2.4G and 5G. For mobile internet: HSPA+ 900Mhz/2100Mhz WCDMA.
GPS
The GPS has been a problem with MediaTek devices since a long time and let me happily start by saying that the iOcean G7 gave me a GPS fix in 3 minutes. This was indoors without any connectivity and updated satellite positions. Outside the same set-up gave me a fix in about 40 seconds. Compared to more expensive and well-known mobile phones MediaTek will always lose the battle but for the average Chinese branded mobile phone user this will be a pretty welcome result.
Conclusion
The iOcean G7 is one of the biggest Chinese phones I have ever handled but also one of the better built and designed. The overall quality of the phone is very good, the camera shoots very worthy photos, the sound capabilities are amazing, playing most games is absolutely fun (no stuttering), display quality is very good at least to say, making the G7 a very enjoyable device for everyday use. Considering all this, the price is very reasonable. If you are looking for an affordable mobile phone with a big display, this is probably the one.
A good functioning GPS and a size that still fits my pocket: my questions are answered, how about yours? Please feel free to post comments or send me a message if you have any more questions.
You can also send me an e-mail: [email protected]
Or look up more information on the official iOcean Facebookpage! Please give them some support and click the ‘like’ button.
chinahardware.info/?page_id=9 for the photo's
I am enjoying the use of the iocean G7. It maybe gigantic but it is not heavy.
Battery life is really good. For light use, you can get up to 4 days. For heavy use, you can get at least 2 days.
Does iocean use a "skinned" version of Android like sense or miui?
sent from Carina Nebula with my Nexus 5 inter dimensional cruiser...
Ltdrev said:
Does iocean use a "skinned" version of Android like sense or miui?
sent from Carina Nebula with my Nexus 5 inter dimensional cruiser...
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Its Android 4.2.2, I have not played with HTC or Miui but it feel like the standard Android. It came with Google Play Store and all the other apps. Don't think I see any Chinese apps.
It actually came rooted as well.
Ysabelkid said:
I am enjoying the use of the iocean G7. It maybe gigantic but it is not heavy.
Battery life is really good. For light use, you can get up to 4 days. For heavy use, you can get at least 2 days.
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Hello,
My Iocean G7 battery lasts about 1 day (wifi and bluetooth always on).
I didn't find how to install CWM on it so I could do a wipe batterie's data.
Does someone has a CWM for Iocean G7 ?
Thanks
Yes a bit
Ltdrev said:
Does iocean use a "skinned" version of Android like sense or miui?
sent from Carina Nebula with my Nexus 5 inter dimensional cruiser...
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I had no idea but I did a comparison for you. iOcean did use some sort of theme (not a entire skin) for their Android version but you can switch back to the standard Android look with 2 clicks (icon called Theme) does that.
I am using Themer now but in the video review on my website (chinahardware.info) you can still see the iOcean theme.
Does that answer your question?
Ysabelkid said:
Its Android 4.2.2, I have not played with HTC or Miui but it feel like the standard Android. It came with Google Play Store and all the other apps. Don't think I see any Chinese apps.
It actually came rooted as well.
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Mine came with a small theme (mostly the icons were different) but I could switch back any moment.
Yours came rooted? Where did you buy your iOcean G7?
Danacy said:
Mine came with a small theme (mostly the icons were different) but I could switch back any moment.
Yours came rooted? Where did you buy your iOcean G7?
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In Settings, under Device Administration, I got Superuser which I turn it on.
I bought my G7 from 1949deal - first time buying from them. Order on Thursday and shipped by DHL and arrived on Monday. I bought the brown case which I think is useless. Cannot find the slip-in case on your video.
I don't use Facebook/bluetooth and have turn off the gesture - thats why I think the battery life last so long.
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Ysabelkid said:
In Settings, under Device Administration, I got Superuser which I turn it on.
I bought my G7 from 1949deal - first time buying from them. Order on Thursday and shipped by DHL and arrived on Monday. I bought the brown case which I think is useless. Cannot find the slip-in case on your video.
I don't use Facebook/bluetooth and have turn off the gesture - thats why I think the battery life last so long.
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You mean the orange case? Try Aliexpress.com It's a sideways flip-cover (bad quality btw).
Cannot find the Superuser setting you mentioned but I thought that will only appear when you root te phone, right?
How is the battery life on the phone? Better than other Android phones or just pretty similar?
Danacy said:
You mean the orange case? Try Aliexpress.com It's a sideways flip-cover (bad quality btw).
Cannot find the Superuser setting you mentioned but I thought that will only appear when you root te phone, right?
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I bought the orange case - its rubbish.
This guy has a slip case - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXMGeWo0W8Q which is like one of those for spectacles.
Not sure if it is 1949deal that rooted the phone before sending out. I learnt of it from the guy in the above video which is why I bought from the same seller as he did. He mentioned about it here - http://mtkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=559&p=1929
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nismofan25 said:
How is the battery life on the phone? Better than other Android phones or just pretty similar?
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Battery life depends on how you use it. It has a 3500 mAh battery - huge.
I don't use Facebook or bluetooth or push notification for my GMail. I use Whatsapp, Line, SMS and calls and some surfing.
For light use, I can get more than 3 day. For heavy use, I can get at least 2 days.
I already enjoying the use of the iocean G7. I think its gigantic its not heavy . Battery life is so good. For light use, you can get up to 4 days. For heavy use, you can get at least 2 days. you also use it enjoy it .........................................
Michael Hill said:
I already enjoying the use of the iocean G7. I think its gigantic its not heavy . Battery life is so good. For light use, you can get up to 4 days. For heavy use, you can get at least 2 days. you also use it enjoy it .........................................
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Can you tell me if the led flash is powerful like Samsung ones I had a few chinese phones but the flash led is weak.
Thanks
cyberbit said:
Can you tell me if the led flash is powerful like Samsung ones I had a few chinese phones but the flash led is weak.
Thanks
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The led flash is strong - red light for Whatsapp and green for Line.
Camera is great - people were impress with it when I took photos in a recent vacation.
good day how to root iocean g7 please help.
Bluetooth
The bluetooth is horrible.
There is lag with the headphone bluetooth, sometimes does not pair with bluetooth on the car.
In others features this phone is really good.
I hope that in the next firmware the iocean improve the bluetooth.
G7 flash and recovery
Hey guys,
I am also a proud owner of my G7... I certainly do love it, at the moment I think I have to flash it to a more recent rom since it came with a 4.2.2.
I want to flash to latest but I dont have a custom recovery installed. Will the inbuilt recovery be fine enough?
I am guessing you guys have an idea of what the way to get a recovery and flash it actually... and I use linux with adb and fastboot installed and it can see my device too although I could get a windows computer is necessary.
Thanks
Recovery
xdadeem said:
Hey guys,
I am also a proud owner of my G7... I certainly do love it, at the moment I think I have to flash it to a more recent rom since it came with a 4.2.2.
I want to flash to latest but I dont have a custom recovery installed. Will the inbuilt recovery be fine enough?
I am guessing you guys have an idea of what the way to get a recovery and flash it actually... and I use linux with adb and fastboot installed and it can see my device too although I could get a windows computer is necessary.
Thanks
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MIUI is always a good choice
http://www.needrom.com/download/miui-by-miuipro-ru-9/
FunTouch OS was also very good
http://www.needrom.com/download/g7-funtouch-os/
To install:
Step 1: From the links above: download the ROM you want and put it on a SD-card. Not in a folder but in the root of the SD-card. Put SD-card in phone
Step 2: Shut down your G7. Not restart but really shut down. Then:
– Power button + volume button up, to enter the recovery mode. (First hold volume up and then press power button and keep volume button pressed until you see the recovery menu)
– Wipe Data / Factory Reset -> delete all user data (use volume buttons to select)
– Wipe Cache Partition -> Wipe cache
Step 3: Return to recovery main interface Install zip from sdcard -> choose zip from sdcard -> Select your ROM
Step 4: Brush complete, restart the phone Patience required – first boot takes a while

[Q] Debating between Z3 and Moto X (2nd ed)

I am REALLY struggling deciding which of these two phones to go for.
I played a bit with a Z3 today and loved it. I have yet to get my hands on a Moto X (2nd ed) as they are no where to be found in the UK (in store).
Both cost more or less the same. The Z3 is a bit more expensive but not by much, maybe £50.
After viewing the phone specs side by side on phonearena they seem very similar. Battery life, camera and additional sd storage were two of the things that stood out.
Thoughts? TIA
texaslittleangel said:
I am REALLY struggling deciding which of these two phones to go for.
I played a bit with a Z3 today and loved it. I have yet to get my hands on a Moto X (2nd ed) as they are no where to be found in the UK (in store).
Both cost more or less the same. The Z3 is a bit more expensive but not by much, maybe £50.
After viewing the phone specs side by side on phonearena they seem very similar. Battery life, camera and additional sd storage were two of the things that stood out.
Thoughts? TIA
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I currently have both and I've been using my Z3 more. The battery life is great and I like the screen as well.
texaslittleangel said:
I am REALLY struggling deciding which of these two phones to go for.
I played a bit with a Z3 today and loved it. I have yet to get my hands on a Moto X (2nd ed) as they are no where to be found in the UK (in store).
Both cost more or less the same. The Z3 is a bit more expensive but not by much, maybe £50.
After viewing the phone specs side by side on phonearena they seem very similar. Battery life, camera and additional sd storage were two of the things that stood out.
Thoughts? TIA
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I was struggling with the same difficulty
Since the screen on my n4 broke, i was looking for an upgrade
The only agvantages of the moto i found out were the amoled screen, close to stock rom and fast updates. Nothing great in hardware section.
The z3 has many advantages over the moto x like the amazing battery life, sd card support till 128gb, better development for now, etc
1) moto doesn't have much development for now while we have a custom kernel for stock Sony rom with OC'ing, UV'ing and an unofficial cm11 build. Most of the development of z2 and z1 can be ported
2)white balance on my z3 is amazingly accurate! My whites are whiter than almost any phone ive conpared to
3) low light imaging on z3 is amazing and noisy on moto x
4) at the end of the day when i am left with 30% charge i feel great (cell recieption is horrible in goa). I've seen the battery thread in moto x section and they have 2-3h SoT with one day of usage (6h i get on my z3)
5) camera on z3 is nothing special unless it's on manual mode
Now I'd suggest you to ask the same question in moto x thread and then decide carefully!
hey TIA,
I was under the same dilemma until a couple of days ago. My post might seem to look like a cliche or would have the same content which you must have read elsewhere, but bear with me on this.
I wanted to get the Nexus 6, couldn't as Google's being a **** by delaying its release. Then I shifted my attention towards Moto X which was almost identical to Nexus 6 (except for screen and camera). There was a flash sale on 29th / 30th October on Motorola UK site. I didn't buy any (still couldn't decide). However, after the sale, the price boosted back up and it was a bit too steep for me. For the same price range I could get a LG G3 or Sony Xperia Z3. I spent countless hours (2 days) to outweigh the features and decide.
The LG G3 has amazing 5.5" large IPS screen with a resolution of 2560 x 1440 (which is 2K; also called as QHD), a 13MP back camera with 3 axis image stabilization and an Infra-red Laser rangefinder (which would make LG's camera a beast in terms of focusing, perceiving depth and smooth motion recording) and a 2.1MP front camera capable of recoding and shooting 4K pictures. It comes with 2 GB RAM and a Quadcore 2.5GHz Krait CPU all powered by a 3000 mAh battery. Apart from that the G3 has regular flagship standard features like 16 GB ROM, 128 GB microSD card support, FM, LTE+, NFC, IR, WiFi, BT, GPS & GLONASS.
The Sony Xperia Z3, comes with a comparably smaller 5.2" screen with a resolution of 1080 x 1920 (which is 1080p HD), and a whopping 20.7MP camera which is being considered as one of the best for now. The camera is capable of recording 4K images and videos. On the flip side, it has a 2.2MP camera. It also comes with 3GB RAM and a Quadcore 2.5GHz Krait CPU same as LG G3. However, its being powered by a 3100 mAh battery. The Z3 also has standard flagship features like 16 GB ROM, 128 GB microSD card support, LTE, FM, NFC, WiFi, BT, GPS, Beido. It also supports Quick Charge 2.0 for faster charging.
Finally, the Moto X has a similarly sized screen to that of Xperia Z3, a 5.2" screen from Samsung's AMOLED line with a resolution of 1080 x 1920 (which is 1080p HD) . It sports a 13 MP back camera which takes pictures at 4128 x 3096 ( a bit higher than 4K) and 2MP front camera. The Moto X does not have a microSD card slot nor a FM. It runs on 2GB RAM and same CPU as mentioned above.
These features were too tempting, but spending £450 on a phone which I may replace in a year or so wasnt' ideal for me. so, after working out the pricing, I decided to go for a contract with 3. 3 offers 24 month contract with 600 minutes, unltd texts an 1GB internet (which is enough for me) for £28 a month. so £28 * 24 = £672 and I get a free phone!; If I decided to get a phone on its own and use one off contract, then it would cost me £15 a month * 24 months = £360 + £450 (phone) = £810.
So I went with Xperia Z3 just because of its camera picture quality, 3GB RAM, and Playstation Integration and I went with 3 just because it saves me ~£100 which I can use it for something else.
If you want "Google"-ness on your phone, then go with Moto X, If you want a phone with huge RAM and awesome camera, go with Xperia Z3, if you want a phone to take great 4K videos then go with G3.
There is, how ever a 4th alternative, OnePlus's One. You can get it for ~£200 +/- £50 off Amazon. which is a blend of all three phones (without 4K display) I've heard its a good phone. If you are on a tight budget I would suggest you to get this NOT FROM AMAZON, but from official site.
Use the questions and answer sections for questions that you want answer
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hey TIA,
These features were too tempting, but spending £450 on a phone which I may replace in a year or so wasnt' ideal for me. so, after working out the pricing, I decided to go for a contract with 3. 3 offers 24 month contract with 600 minutes, unltd texts an 1GB internet (which is enough for me) for £28 a month. so £28 * 24 = £672 and I get a free phone!; If I decided to get a phone on its own and use one off contract, then it would cost me £15 a month * 24 months = £360 + £450 (phone) = £810.
So I went with Xperia Z3 just because of its camera picture quality, 3GB RAM, and Playstation Integration and I went with 3 just because it saves me ~£100 which I can use it for something else.
If you want "Google"-ness on your phone, then go with Moto X, If you want a phone with huge RAM and awesome camera, go with Xperia Z3, if you want a phone to take great 4K videos then go with G3.
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Hi emclondon,
I was gutted when the rumors of the Nexus 6 being 6" were true. That is a phablet and too big for comfort (and my small girly hands). I was so looking forward to it.
I went on the Nexus 6 forum to ask for alternatives. I was given a few but the top three where:
1) Moto X - Online purchase only. Seems like an amazing phone but it cannot be found anywhere to play with it.
2) Dorid - Not out in the UK yet
3) Z3 - Hands on advantage (Westfield Shepherds Bush has a stand)
Although pure android is important, the camera of the Z3 is hard to beat. I travel quite a bit and I was impressed with the camera features.
I was actually offered a great deal from Carphone Warehouse. 1000 minutes, unlimited txt and 2gb with EE for £30 on a 24 mo contract with no money to pay upfront. I pretty much did the same calculations you so kindly noted.
There are not a whole lot of draw backs on the phone aside from the glass screen WHICH I have on my Nexus 4. Despite the amount of times I have dropped it, thanks to the awesome screen and back protector (and the bumper), it is in great condition. I'll be getting the same brand for my new phone.
OK so, I think I have made my decision. THANK YOU guys for taking the time to contribute and helping me out decide what new toy to get!
:victory: happy dance :victory:
Both are great, but in my opinion Z3 is better because:
1. Much greater battery life
2. LCDs don't burn in like AMOLED, AMOLED also uses more power in web pages (white background)
3. Better speakers
4. Better camera especially if you use manual mode.
np TIA, let me know what you went for
I went with the z3 personally
but not for the camera... (i think the camera is overrated if you ask me!! - originally i had a g3 and i gotta tell you .. having a quick camera with instant focus real makes for a great real world camera... although g3 pictures not as good as z3 in terms of overall quality)
the kicker for me on the z3 is the battery life..
Not just the standard battery life which is about 2 days but also the excellent stamina mode. (which when the battery is low can give you an extra 5 or so hours depending)
I do prefer stock android though so i've tried to make the z3 as stock as possible with the L theme , nova installed, custom keyboard.
Tiger33 said:
I went with the z3 personally
but not for the camera... (i think the camera is overrated if you ask me!! - originally i had a g3 and i gotta tell you .. having a quick camera with instant focus real makes for a great real world camera... although g3 pictures not as good as z3 in terms of overall quality)
the kicker for me on the z3 is the battery life..
Not just the standard battery life which is about 2 days but also the excellent stamina mode. (which when the battery is low can give you an extra 5 or so hours depending)
I do prefer stock android though so i've tried to make the z3 as stock as possible with the L theme , nova installed, custom keyboard.
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Sounds like what I would have to say too. Getting the Z3 to look stock as possible. Z3 is not a good point-and-shoot phone. My Nexus 5 did a whole lot better.
Yeah people really to seem to forget about the speed of the camera and real world usage. (they get blinded by the megapixel count! )
Well, I picked up the Z3 yesterday. I highly dislike all of the Sony crap in there and having to figure out what I ca dissable and or uninstall has not been fun (still at it).
I haven't had time to play with the camera as I've spent most of the time transferring files over and trying to figure out why the msgstore.db.crpt7 file from whatsapp doesn't want to move to the new phone grrrrr.
I am staring to miss the purity of the nexus' sigh!
congrats!
Yeah I agree that some of the bloatware is annoying. I just left it as I'm waiting for stable ASOP or Sony branded lollipop release now.
Why can't you copy the crypt* files? did you try copying the whole whatsapp folder? also you could use smsbackuprestore to transfer all your texts across the phone. Very handy tool.
emclondon said:
Why can't you copy the crypt* files? did you try copying the whole whatsapp folder? also you could use smsbackuprestore to transfer all your texts across the phone. Very handy tool.
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I used smsbackuprestore, I love that app. So easy to use! In regards to WA, It copies all the files except for of the 9 inside of the database folder, one of these being the msgstore.db.crypt7 file. I get an error as posted on the attached pic.
I should be getting the case and screen protector tomorrow. It is fun learning to use the new phone but a bit overwhelming as I want to take full advantage of its features.
texaslittleangel said:
I used smsbackuprestore, I love that app. So easy to use! In regards to WA, It copies all the files except for of the 9 inside of the database folder, one of these being the msgstore.db.crypt7 file. I get an error as posted on the attached pic.
I should be getting the case and screen protector tomorrow. It is fun learning to use the new phone but a bit overwhelming as I want to take full advantage of its features.
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Have you tried force stopping whatsapp before you do the copy?
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Have you tried force stopping whatsapp before you do the copy?
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Just triend it, didn't work
Everything else copied smoothly
alright, lets do this.
You don't need all the files from that folder. so, go ahead and delete the files from msgstore-2014-10-31.* till msgstore-2014-11-05.* but leave the msgstore.db and msgstore-2014-11-06.* and msgstore-2014-11-07.*
fire up your whatsapp app, go to settings > chat and click 'Backup Conversations'. This will create a new msgstore file with current date in its file name. (lets say if you've clicked it now, you'll find a file named msgstore-2014-11-9.* and will replace msgstore.db's contents (it updated it).
go back to the folder and start deleting all files except msgstore.db and the file you've created just now (msgstore-2014-11-9.*) and try copying them , chances are that they should be copied without any problems.
if it still doesn't work, one another way I can think of is to copy the file onto a SD card; or move it to your google drive/docs. and redownload them on your phone.
hth
I am going for option two, much easier at this time at night lol. If this one fails, then I'll go with your first option. This would involve having to go through the whatsapp verification on my nexus as I have activated my account on the Z3.
So far, uploading the files to the google drive went well. I am now downloading them one by one on to the phone and hopefully it will let me transfer them into the databases folder on whatsapp crossing fingers
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if it still doesn't work, one another way I can think of is to copy the file onto a SD card; or move it to your google drive/docs. and redownload them on your phone.
hth
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Well, copying the to google drive added [1] to each file and mid way through downloading to device it stopped. So I tried the same but with Box and it worked flawlessly.
Brillian emclondon!! THANK YOU!!! :victory: :good:
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Some questions about Xperia Z5!

Okay so now, because my old Xperia Z got screwed, I want to buy a new phone in around next month. I have some questions about it before buying, some experienced users please try to answer...
1) I think the camera is best for smartphone when you have little sense of capturing photos. Though I saw some posts that claimed that little noise and all, but I want to ask what are your experiences?
2) The major problems with Xperia devices was heating problems. I read some reviews that told me that Sony improved a lot with Snapdragon 810 to run cooler for Xperia Z5 than its predecessors, is that true?
3) I am like hell a lot apps installer. I had almost 130 installed apps on my old Xperia Z. Will Xperia Z5 perform best without laggy in such no of apps?
4) Is CPU of Xperia Z5 really sucks than iPhone 6s or Samsung Galaxy S6?
5) I love the sexy design of Xperia Devices all the time, I am a big fan of it. Means is it good for rough and tough use? It should not like got hit and damaged something by just dropping it to floor! What are your experiences!
After all, what do you think of this phone comparable to Galaxy S6 and iPhone 6?
Hello,
1- I think the experience with the camera is quite good for my needs (random photos). And I believe that all problems will be fixed sometime by Sony.
2- I have a Z5 Rev 4 and had not noticed any overheating issues. Of course it heats, but nothing out of the normal.
3- It should perform better, since it has more firepower.
4- What do you mean by "sucks"? It has a latest Snapdragon Processor 810. It is one of the most performing mobile processors out there.
5- Don't know about dropping, I have put a case (TPU by Nillkin) from the very first day. The bright side of this case is that it is REALLY thin (0.6mm only), and preserves the phone's original sexy design =P
S6 & Z5 are the best phones out there in my opinion.
What made me choose the Z5 over the S6 was the design (Yeah, the Z5 is supah dupah sexy as you said haha). The Clean UI was a very important point also. And of course, the water proof and dust free body.
Edit: Forgot to mention the battery life, which in my usage, the Z5 drastically outperforms the S6
The s6 has terrible battery life I had one for 1and a half jaar and I am glad I sold it en got my self a z5
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another issue to consider is the random cracking of the back glass.
the phone does get hot when you use heavy tasked apps. this could be a problem long term as internal components prematurely fail. but many flagships these days burn up anyway. not a big deal if you change your phones often.

Is this phone any good?

Does this phone have louder speakers, a better camera, better battery life and a brighter and better screen than the xperia Z2? If not which device is better than the Z2 in all those areas?
Hi,Theandroidfan, if we are talking about the camera and the screen, of course that Z5 is better than Z2, but when we are talking about battery life, it's not good as the Z2 cause the snapdragon 810. The brighter of the screen is bad, it's lower than the S6 and Moto X Play. Speakers, I don't know how loud is the Z2, but it's also lower than the S6 of my father,
Regarding
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Hi,Theandroidfan, if we are talking about the camera and the screen, of course that Z5 is better than Z2, but when we are talking about battery life, it's not good as the Z2 cause the snapdragon 810. The brighter of the screen is bad, it's lower than the S6 and Moto X Play. Speakers, I don't know how loud is the Z2, but it's also lower than the S6 of my father,
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i actually came from a Z2
Things better
- Performance (no lag at all)
- bugs (there are not as many)
- Camera is outstanding (front camera is actually quite good for an xperia)
- Louder and better speaker
- no weird audio crackling or terrible quality
- finger print sensor
- Z5 has more support time (e.g z2 wont recieve updates soon)
Better Z2 things
- battery life (by default the z2s stock battery is better)
- battery size
- front glass feels smoother
Also came from Z2. In general Z5 is noticeably faster and camera is better however there are several problems you may have when you buy Z5. I had the replace it 4 times (yes you read it right, FOUR TIMES) to finally get the unit without problems. First two had left hand side photo blur (as well as other three but I just realised all Z5's suffer from this problem so I gave up), third one was randomly resetting, fourth had build quality issues (rattling vibrations and gaps between the screen and sides). Luckily fifth unit seems OK now so I can finally enjoy it
In terms of differences between Z2 and Z5 I'd say that:
Better:
1. Brighter screen
2. Much faster
3. Camera is better with faster focus and wider field of view (if you can live with left hand side photo blur)
4. No USB port flaps
5. Better design (in my opinion)
6. Fast charging
7. Finger print sensor
8. Less visible touch grid lines on the screen
Worse:
1. Battery life is shorter by around 20%
2. Tiny notification light in comparison to Z2
3. Left hand side photo blur problem
4. Risk of getting faulty unit
5. Volume button placed in very inconvenient place
All in all it's a great phone and I love my Z5 but you have to be aware of possible issues if you're not lucky with the unit. If you can, order it from the retailer who has great return/replacement policy so you can replace it easily if you get faulty phone. I read quite a few horror stories where people are stuck with faulty phones and Sony refuses to fix it.
When you get your phone watch out for the problems below and if you experience any, ask for replacement:
1. Random resets - first try to fix the software using PC and if it's not fixed replace it
2. Any build quality issues, don't hesitate and replace it. It's an expensive flagship phone and you deserve to get high quality product
3. Read this and Sony's forum to check if you have any other issues and if you do and it cannot be fixed don't go to Sony, just replace it with the retailer. Sony will most likely ignore it and it will take ages to get your phone back.
I hope that helps but if you have any other questions or need help, the community here is great and you know where to find us.
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I had a z2 too. Battery and camera on z2 much better than z5. My z5 is history already.
Stay with z2, keep your money and try to find a real upgrade.
Definitely.

Help deciding on what to upgrade (from z5)

Hi there.
Currently owning the z5. I intend to upgrade to a sd820, I know, minor upgrade but I am tired with this phone getting hot. (it gets hot whenever updating apps from play store, syncing my photos to the cloud and even chrome browsing, I won't even mention any camera related activity).
So I am choosing between Sony..again, the xperia x performance and the one plus 3.
I care most about battery performance and as I said the device not getting too hot (which, in turn can negatively affect the previous battery life). Then I'd like to have a useable camera (photos mostly). By the way, z5's photo capabilities are good enough for me, however I hated how the camera overheats and stops sometimes. Finally, audio performance is also important.
From what I can gather, oneplus 3 battery life is only marginally better. I also heard that xperia xp occasionally gets hot? Camera performance seems to not be a deciding factor, however I was only looking at some picture samples I found, I rather prefer the Sony's but it might be just me being used to z5's color/saturation?
Could anyone that had exposure to both these devices help me with deciding between the 2 on these aspects:
Battery life
Photo quality
Audio
Overall performance (as in everyday use)
Thanks
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Hi there.
Currently owning the z5. I intend to upgrade to a sd820, I know, minor upgrade but I am tired with this phone getting hot. (it gets hot whenever updating apps from play store, syncing my photos to the cloud and even chrome browsing, I won't even mention any camera related activity).
So I am choosing between Sony..again, the xperia x performance and the one plus 3.
I care most about battery performance and as I said the device not getting too hot (which, in turn can negatively affect the previous battery life). Then I'd like to have a useable camera (photos mostly). By the way, z5's photo capabilities are good enough for me, however I hated how the camera overheats and stops sometimes. Finally, audio performance is also important.
From what I can gather, oneplus 3 battery life is only marginally better. I also heard that xperia xp occasionally gets hot? Camera performance seems to not be a deciding factor, however I was only looking at some picture samples I found, I rather prefer the Sony's but it might be just me being used to z5's color/saturation?
Could anyone that had exposure to both these devices help me with deciding between the 2 on these aspects:
Battery life
Photo quality
Audio
Overall performance (as in everyday use)
Thanks
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Sorry I can't be of use when choosing between the two phones but I would just wait until Sony bring out their next generation of handsets and you can decide if it's good enough or not.
I'm not impressed with Z5's to be honest (I have a Z5 Compact) but loved the design. It's a bit thick (hard to hold) and a bit heavy though.
I wouldn't buy Sony again after my Z5 experience. They've fixed most things now, but given the price I would expect a lot more. One+ looks great
I would suggest you a HTC 10. Bought one for my Mother a few weeks ago. Its really great!
im with EDGN htc 10 upto 50% faster from Z5 and better sound
dont know about picture and battery
and im also not gonna buy SONY anymore... sony X is about same as Z5+-,,, and Sony XP maybe faster but same audio, same lens.. (without the 4K filming, only if rooting)
also lots of bugs not the same service and quality
To be honest, I paid $800CAD for my Z5 when it came out last year and it's finally a phone I can enjoy (took Sony almost 12 months to come up with a decent firmware though, and everything before .224 has been nothing but trouble for me: poor battery life, bluetooth disconnecting, phone freezing, laggy/choppy UI)... the Z5 now has a pretty good stock firmware and is a reliable device, but at this point, I don't feel it was worth all that money. The OnePlus 2 I almost purchased last year instead of the Z5 finally wasn't an inferior phone by any means, but it was a lot cheaper.
The only phone I would maybe be be willing to pay $800+ for at the moment is the Note 7 (because well, like Samsung or hate it, the Note 7 is the ULTIMATE Android phone), but realistically my next phone will most likely be a ~400-500$ phone I'll get next year (OnePlus 4? I liked my OnePlus One a lot, so there's a chance). Flagship specs for the asking price of a mid-range phone is appealing.
Considering flagship Sony phones are well built but are also very expensive (some may say overpriced), my next phone won't be a Xperia. I'm not impressed at all by the new Xperia X series (same old hardware, build quality isn't worthy of Sony and the Z series, same old camera sensor/optics, etc.). From now on, a phone will have to be VERY special to justify a $800+ price tag as far as I'm concerned.
If I were you:
#1: Keep your Z5, it's still a good phone, wait for the OnePlus 4 or next year flagships, at least they will be a worthy upgrade (the 820 isn't THAT faster than the 810. I doubt you can even notice the difference in day to day usage)
or
#2: If you can deal with the Samsung firmware (it's not that bad anymore), absolutely want a new phone and have some cash to spend: Sell your Z5 while it's still worth something, and go get a Note 7 (now that's a significative upgrade from the Z5. The SoC isn't that faster, but more memory, better/bigger display, better battery life, better camera, USB-C + wireless charging, etc.)
I don't see the point of replacing the Z5 for anything else beside the Note 7 at the moment. The current flagship phones (Galaxy S7, HTC10, G5, name them all) aren't enough of an upgrade imo versus the Z5 you're using at the moment
My 2 cents, and sorry for my less than pefect English (Not my primary, and not even my secondary language )
What about one plus 3? I believe it's worth the upgrade since you won't spent much after selling your z5. Full Manual camera settings, 4gb ram, crazy fast charging and the flawless oxygen os.
I'm actually thinking about it but since our z5 is the last z and my emerald green is a jewel I'm having drawbacks. Battery life is the problem on my z5 I never get more than 4 hours SOT.
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Just a follow-up on this..
So I gave up the z5 and bought the note 7 that I am using for 1 week.
In case anyone wanna know about the transition to samsung (my last samsung was the s2 awhile ago).
The reason I gave up the z5 was, I have mentioned before, the overheating issue, especially while operating the camera but there were some other instances.
In spite of this I kinda liked the z5 camera. Also, the battery life, when not overheating, I would get up to 6 hours sot in a full day. I also liked -- still do - some other
features of the z5, such as many elements of its hardware/software design, so normally I would've prefferred to move to a newer xperia iteration.
Anyways, I am on this samsung note 7. The device has been praised quite a bit so although initially I wouldn't consider it (reasons: samsung, touchwiz, edge screen) in the end I pre-ordered it.
So, how this note7 experience compares to z5:
battery: pretty much same battery experience, after having disabled some bloat (but only really a few so far, I think there's still room for improving further); I was hoping for more then 6 hours sot in a day considering the battery size but also, just like in the case of z5, I am using pretty much all the features, bt low power constantly on for my fitness/notification tracker, lte/wifi depending on location, all location scanning on, brightness half-way etc. I think the z5 standby time was better though.
overheating: no overheating so far, it's still warm outside (sometimes up to 30 deg Celsius). Yay!
performance: pretty much on par with z5, can't say the note is much faster as it should be perhaps.
screen: I am using the basic mode, brightness even at halfway is much more brighter than z5. Overall, the screen is fine and it's nice to see the actual deep blacks on it.
camera: I was afraid of this aspect. I am actually impressed by the camera performance, to resume, it seems to be just another generation really. The most impressive thing is how fast is it, even in low-light conditions. The only negative or positive if you will, the lens is less wide.
sound: another important factor, for me at least. Fortunately, samsung delivers here too. The wired or even bt sound compares well to the z5, to my non-audophile ears it sounds
much much better than sony's. The system equalizer actually works and makes a world of difference.
Other things note 7 I like: always on display, blue light filter, fingerprint works now all the time, the led cover view
What I miss from z5: xperia keyboard, fm player, double tap to wake, glove mode
Oh, and I received right away the August 1st security update (when I started it on August 22). Hopefully they keep up the momentum on this apsect.
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