So I am new to htc and new to what to do, been on Samsung for years and htc is way different.
First, once I update firmware will it be safe to flash the roms in the android development section even if they are from July or August ?
Do the Roms include kernels or do I need to find one and flash it after I flash the rom along with gapps ? If so what kernels do you recommend and /or do you have a list of some of them ?
What is fastboot and how do I use it? I am updating the firmware through sd card method but also want to update the twrp and I heard that is done through fast boot. Does that require a computer or?
Thank you for taking the time to read my questions
thrgk said:
So I am new to htc and new to what to do, been on Samsung for years and htc is way different.
First, once I update firmware will it be safe to flash the roms in the android development section even if they are from July or August ?
Do the Roms include kernels or do I need to find one and flash it after I flash the rom along with gapps ? If so what kernels do you recommend and /or do you have a list of some of them ?
What is fastboot and how do I use it? I am updating the firmware through sd card method but also want to update the twrp and I heard that is done through fast boot. Does that require a computer or?
Thank you for taking the time to read my questions
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First off I assume you are s-off and unlocked via firewater or sunshine.
1) this is only anectodal but I ran ViperROM 1.8 (4.4.2 based) with the 4.4.3 firmware for a few weeks without issue.
2) all Roms come with a kernel. Some are stock, some are custom but they all come with one. ASSUMING you are s-off then the packaged kernel will be flashed along with the rom. If you're looking for a custom kernel make sure you find a Sense/GPE/AOSP kernel which matches your rom type (SENSE/GPE/AOSP) and flash it AFTER flashing the rom. Flashing a rom will overwrite whatever kernel you previosly had installed with the new rom's kernel. I am currently runing ViperROM 2.5 which is a Sense ROM with the EliteLunar kernel (sense version) with no issues.
3) fastboot is an interface between a computer and your phone. I always find it alarming when people ask this question. Learn and become familiar with fastboot BEFORE YOU FLASH ANY ROMs OR ZIP FILES IN RECOVERY. I'm not being rude, I assure you this is sound advice. Many fastboot tasks can be performed with apps like flashify or by a flashable zip file which many devs are kind enough to create. However, having fastboot set up and functional (that includes knowledge of how to use it) is irreplaceable if/when things go downhill.
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First off I assume you are s-off and unlocked via firewater or sunshine.
1) this is only anectodal but I ran ViperROM 1.8 (4.4.2 based) with the 4.4.3 firmware for a few weeks without issue.
2) all Roms come with a kernel. Some are stock, some are custom but they all come with one. ASSUMING you are s-off then the packaged kernel will be flashed along with the rom. If you're looking for a custom kernel make sure you find a Sense/GPE/AOSP kernel which matches your rom type (SENSE/GPE/AOSP) and flash it AFTER flashing the rom. Flashing a rom will overwrite whatever kernel you previosly had installed with the new rom's kernel. I am currently runing ViperROM 2.5 which is a Sense ROM with the EliteLunar kernel (sense version) with no issues.
3) fastboot is an interface between a computer and your phone. I always find it alarming when people ask this question. Learn and become familiar with fastboot BEFORE YOU FLASH ANY ROMs OR ZIP FILES IN RECOVERY. I'm not being rude, I assure you this is sound advice. Many fastboot tasks can be performed with apps like flashify or by a flashable zip file which many devs are kind enough to create. However, having fastboot set up and functional (that includes knowledge of how to use it) is irreplaceable if/when things go downhill.
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Thanks for all the info. So if I am on 4.4.3 and want to flash a 4.4.2 rom just flash the 4.4.2 firmware just to be safe before flashing the 4.4.2 rom?
Also where are the kernels located ? Are they carrier dependent as I didn't see any yet browsing but didn't look hard either.
So I can do flash boot through flashify and be ok? Now all roms and kernels are flashed through twrp tho right ?
EDIT: actually fastboot can flash rom and kernels so no real need for custom recovery other then for convenience?
Btw do you have a kernel recommendation for aosp, sense, ? I already saw your recommendation for sense above.
Thanks !!
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I have a feeling that it's simply not necessary to downgrade your firmware in order to run a 4.4.2 rom but you should find a more reputable source than myself. I'm just trying to answer these easy questions to save time for the guys who really know what they're doing. Once you do start flashing things, always make sure 1) they are for your device (and carrier, unless unified for all carriers) and 2) the md5 of the downloaded file matches that provided by the hosting website or the OP.
I'm not a fan of flashing utilities simply because I've heard of instances where they don't work correctly. For example, I keep hearing how the TWRP manager app flashes TWRP to the system partition on Verizon devices and sends the phone into a sort of recovery loop. I would suggest gaining knowledge about the fastboot flash command "fastboot flash <partition name> <filename.extension>" and how to enter and flash within RUU mode.
My experience is that ROMS and kernels are easiest flashed through a custom recovery especially when the developer packages it with an Aroma installer script.
A few Sense/GPE custom kernels exist for verizon. There's MassStashed and Checkm8 (no longer maintained?) for 4.4.2 roms. Also, for 4.4.3 roms I only know of the EliteLunar kernel which isn't on XDA although you can find a few links to it in the forums if you search. Last I knew, there weren't any AOSP kernels which work with verizon but that might not be true anymore. The general HTC One m8 forum may have some kernels which aren't represented in the verizon-specific forum. Just make sure and find out if they're compatible with verizon devices. I'm pretty happy with sense so I haven't wondered off to AOSP like I usually do.
so do you recommend to use flashify or no?
thrgk said:
so do you recommend to use flashify or no?
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Its the easiest way
thrgk said:
so do you recommend to use flashify or no?
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I'm not saying you shouldn't use flashify, it's awfully convenient. Just make sure you're using it for the convenience and not because you don't know how to accomplish the same tasks in recovery/fastboot.
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A few questions as this is all new to me.
Do all ROMS require you to flash a new kernal?
Do you flash a kernal the same way as you flash a radio? (PD98IMG File and Hboot?)
I appreciate the input...
ROMS should and typically will come with the recommended kernel, however, some kernels do work that aren't the packaged one. Always be careful when flashing a new one (backup, backup, backup!) because sometime they don't always get along with the ROM you have running.
Also, most of them should be flashable .zips that can be ran through CWM.
At least in my experience with various kernels
Hope this helped!
Kernels are included with every rom I have ever tried, and if you want to use a different kernel than the one in the rom, you have to make sure that is compatible. A good rule of thumb is if it a sense based rom (custom user interface that comes stock on the inspire) you have to use a sense based kernel. If it is a ASOP rom (Android Open Source Project, like Cyanogenmod 7, or MUIU) you must use a ASOP kernel. They will specify in the OP. And I have never heard of flashing them through HBOOT, or FASTBOOT. In my experience it is always through CWM recovery, and you flash them just as you would a rom, theme, or anything else. Move the .zip file to the root of your SD, choose install zip from sd card, scroll down to choose zip from sdcard, then choose the file. When it is done hit back and then reboot. Easy Peezy.
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A few questions as this is all new to me.
Do all ROMS require you to flash a new kernal?
Do you flash a kernal the same way as you flash a radio? (PD98IMG File and Hboot?)
I appreciate the input...
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kernal == kernel
Most users will flash kernels through clockwork like a rom. I flash them through fastboot, you can fastboot flash zimage(or boot), or fastboot boot zimage , which lets you boot the kernel before actually writing it, fastboot flashing requires eng s-off, which you probably don't have or need
So, I am going to do a lot more research prior to rooting, but I had a couple of general questions that I was wondering about, before I begin the steps leading up to rooting.
1) I presume the easiest way for me to root my Thunderbolt is the Revolutionary Root? This will take be through rooting and installing the CW recovery that I need, correct?
2) Right after I root, If I want to install roms/kernels? than I can just get Rom Manager from the android market?
3) Once I install Rom Manager, can I just flash a rom that is compatible with my Thunderbolt? Can I just flash a kernel that is compatible with the Rom?
I suppose where I get a lil lost is the flashing compatibility part. What kernels work with what roms, what roms I can flash... I have read a number of articles, so I suppose what I'm asking is...
Will the process more or less be: Revolutionary Root, Install Rom Manager from market, flash a rom (just the most popular one). Is the Kernel flashing piece important? Do I need to flash a different kernel? Is it easy to tell in Rom Manager which kernel/rom I can use?
Yes use revolutionary to root and install custom recovery (cwr). You can use ROM manager to download custom roms if you want, only roms for your device will show up. Or you can download custom roms from forums, this is the method I prefer.
Just use kernel that comes with the Rom for the time being some developers include a custom kernel and others make modifications to the HTC kernel itself. Kernels are seperated in development section having to do with sense and aosp that is the first way to seperate them. Second would be leak the kernel was based on such as imo test 3.8 was based on newest leak so it works for just about if not all newest sense roms. When in doubt fire up a question in the Rom thread itself and ask what kernels those people are using, find a Rom like BAMF or thunderstick or synergy where the developers or support staff are very active.
Also you will need to flash a new radio right after rooting if you are still using froyo, I am using newest leak but different phone work differently. Once you install the radio VIA Hboot. Reboot phone and remove zip file from root of SD card now place your Rom image on SD card and reboot to recovery and install your new Rom.
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This is good info.. thanks.
Well, I am upgraded to Gingerbread as of VZW's last update and still unrooted and stock.
So, if I were to root (using revolutionary) and install Rom Manager... could I just install something like Cyanogenmod or BAMF right through Rom Manager?
What do you mean by kernel that comes with the Rom? The kernel that is listed to use with the Rom? Or do you mean if I flash BAMF or something popular, just leave whatever kernel I have as is?
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This is good info.. thanks.
Well, I am upgraded to Gingerbread as of VZW's last update and still unrooted and stock.
So, if I were to root (using revolutionary) and install Rom Manager... could I just install something like Cyanogenmod or BAMF right through Rom Manager?
What do you mean by kernel that comes with the Rom? The kernel that is listed to use with the Rom? Or do you mean if I flash BAMF or something popular, just leave whatever kernel I have as is?
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When you flash a rom it flashes the kernel too with whatever one the devs packed with it.
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Okay, clear enough.
So, for someone like myself, just use revolutionary root, install rom manager and play around a lil with flashing roms using rom manager for awhile. I understand that I can install roms from my SD card, but it sounds like at least initially installing roms right from rom manager would be the simplest. I can also not worry about installing a different kernel during this "honeymoon" phase. Just pick the latest version of whatever Rom I want and flash the rom?
After you root you need to install superuser so CWM can function. I have read that some people flash their CWM via hboot after s-off and then go right to recovery to flash the root gaining RUU, then enjoy your root.
Do not flash ROMs right from CWM reboot to recovery clear data/cache and under advanced davlik cache and then install Rom from install from SD and choose zip file and I always store mine in downloads since I download all my roms right to my phone and download md5 checker from market and always check the md5 if it does not match don't think its a mistake redownload and try again.
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Agreed, it is better to install the ROM through recovery instead of installing through ROM manager as sometimes it doesn't work right.
Don't forget to use thank you for all you great answers.
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Hello, recently i've just rooted my htc one s, s4. I stalled for a bit and had the 4.0.4 update already, so currently I have root access with the stock firmware. I'm looking through the rom list and the viper One s room caught my eye. So my question is, are there any prerequisite requirements before i flash this rom. Sorry for such a ridiculous question, but i havn't flashed a rom since the G1 and I remember having to flash certain kernels for certain roms. I still haven't messed with the kernel yet so that's stock too.
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My One S is s4 t-mobile, TWRP recovery, obtained root access with the All in One Toolkit v3.0 by hasoon2000. firmware is stock update 4.0.4 and everything else is just stock. so all i did was root
Just follow the instructions in the Viper Thread.
Since you have it rooted (and I assume a working recovery) you should already have all tools needed (fastboot etc).
On the Working Recovery, I would recommend installing TWRP. Best recovery atm for rom flashing. Get it thru the Goo Manager App on PlayStore. Just open Goo Manager then open Menu and tap on Install OpenScript Recovery.
Read OP pages carefully and scan the threads of the rom you want to flash. Depending on your hboot version, you may have to fastboot boot.img right after flashing rom. If at or above .13. Or, get Flash Image GUI from PlayStore and it will do it for you.
On CM roms there are some other quirks with radio etc, so some pre-study would be advised as well as nandroiding and backing up sdcard first. Put both backups on PC for extra safety.
Good Luck--
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On the Working Recovery, I would recommend installing TWRP. Best recovery atm for rom flashing. Get it thru the Goo Manager App on PlayStore. Just open Goo Manager then open Menu and tap on Install OpenScript Recovery.
Read OP pages carefully and scan the threads of the rom you want to flash. Depending on your hboot version, you may have to fastboot boot.img right after flashing rom. If at or above .13. Or, get Flash Image GUI from PlayStore and it will do it for you.
On CM roms there are some other quirks with radio etc, so some pre-study would be advised as well as nandroiding and backing up sdcard first. Put both backups on PC for extra safety.
Good Luck--
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Thanks! i went ahead and flashed viper rom and after reading a bit i noticed that i had hboot .14 so it broke my wifi . I'm still currently searching info and came across that i need linux to downgrade, which i don't have . do you know any other method? or roms beside trickdroid 7 that support the hboot version and allow wifi?
On .14 the items I mentioned will apply on all roms
Not sure on wifi, i use mostly cm roms atm
Im on Hboot .14, and wifi works fine for me on viperS
there is a wifi partition zip floating around for wifi issues. didn't pay much attn to it as i have no issues--maybe a search, or someone will post it
I've searched up and down for this and have yet to find a solid answer, so here I am. I have an AT&T One X (Evita), unlocked, rooted and flashed. Currently running TWRP & GooManager for recovery and ROMs and I'm on Viper 3.2.6.
Initially, my choice was to flash CM10, this failed and went into boot loop. So I recovered and tried Viper. No problems....everything installed just fine. However, I'd like a more lightweight OS - Viper is a little too heavy for my tastes. I saw in GooManager yesterday a new ROM, Liquidsmooth (4.2.2) - decided to flash it and the same thing happened as with CM10 - everything went fine through install and then black.....second install attempt resulted in another bootloop.
I recovered back to Viper without issue, but I can't help but wonder why both CM10 and Liquidsmooth fail to install, but suspect I'm missing a certain boot img? Am I correct here?
(I'd post this to the specific ROM forum but don't have enough posts to submit to developer forums - apologies)
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I've searched up and down for this and have yet to find a solid answer, so here I am. I have an AT&T One X (Evita), unlocked, rooted and flashed. Currently running TWRP & GooManager for recovery and ROMs and I'm on Viper 3.2.6.
Initially, my choice was to flash CM10, this failed and went into boot loop. So I recovered and tried Viper. No problems....everything installed just fine. However, I'd like a more lightweight OS - Viper is a little too heavy for my tastes. I saw in GooManager yesterday a new ROM, Liquidsmooth (4.2.2) - decided to flash it and the same thing happened as with CM10 - everything went fine through install and then black.....second install attempt resulted in another bootloop.
I recovered back to Viper without issue, but I can't help but wonder why both CM10 and Liquidsmooth fail to install, but suspect I'm missing a certain boot img? Am I correct here?
(I'd post this to the specific ROM forum but don't have enough posts to submit to developer forums - apologies)
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Yes there is a sense kernel and one for non-sense roms (aosp)
Usually the dev will have a kernel link posted on their page
If you are hboot 1.14 or higher, and S-on, to be perfectly safe you should extract the boot.img for the ROM zip you are trying to flash, and flash it manually.
Also, be careful installing ROMs with GooManager (or similar apps, like ROM Manager). Not sure if it properly differentiates between the dual and quad core versions of the One X/XL.
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If you are hboot 1.14 or higher, and S-on, to be perfectly safe you should extract the boot.img for the ROM zip you are trying to flash, and flash it manually.
Also, be careful installing ROMs with GooManager (or similar apps, like ROM Manager). Not sure if it properly differentiates between the dual and quad core versions of the One X/XL.
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Is it better to just boot into recovery (TWRP) and go that route, instead of having Goo flash it?
I checked the page where the ROM exists but I'm not seeing a link to any specific kernel. However, I downloaded to ROM again to my desktop just now, unarchived it and now see a 'boot.img" file. So this file.....this gets placed on my sd card, I boot into TWRP and flash it?
If you can point me to a how-to on this, I'd appreciate it - I hate filling boards with asinine questions.
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I've searched up and down for this and have yet to find a solid answer, so here I am. I have an AT&T One X (Evita), unlocked, rooted and flashed. Currently running TWRP & GooManager for recovery and ROMs and I'm on Viper 3.2.6.
Initially, my choice was to flash CM10, this failed and went into boot loop. So I recovered and tried Viper. No problems....everything installed just fine. However, I'd like a more lightweight OS - Viper is a little too heavy for my tastes. I saw in GooManager yesterday a new ROM, Liquidsmooth (4.2.2) - decided to flash it and the same thing happened as with CM10 - everything went fine through install and then black.....second install attempt resulted in another bootloop.
I recovered back to Viper without issue, but I can't help but wonder why both CM10 and Liquidsmooth fail to install, but suspect I'm missing a certain boot img? Am I correct here?
(I'd post this to the specific ROM forum but don't have enough posts to submit to developer forums - apologies)
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viper doesn't require you to flash the boot image, it does it for your.
For cm10 or liquidsmooth you need to, an easy way is using Flash GUI. its available on the market and xda. you don't need to hook up to a computer to flash boot image, makes things much easier and faster.
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Is it better to just boot into recovery (TWRP) and go that route, instead of having Goo flash it?
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For flashing the actual ROM, I don't think it matters. I think Goo Manager is still using TWRP, just automating the process.
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I checked the page where the ROM exists but I'm not seeing a link to any specific kernel. However, I downloaded to ROM again to my desktop just now, unarchived it and now see a 'boot.img" file.
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The boot.img has the kernel in it. They are usually not posted separately in ROM threads. ROMs always contain a kernel, which normally just flashes with the rest of the ROM zip. But hboot 1.14 and above (if you are S-on) prevents the kernel from being flashed in recovery (TWRP). So you need to extract it from the ROM zip manually.
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So this file.....this gets placed on my sd card, I boot into TWRP and flash it?
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Again, you can't flash boot.img from TWRP, which is the whole point. Couple methods:
1) Leave the boot.img on your PC, and flash using fastboot. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952076
2) Alternately, you can use the app "Flash Image GUI" on the Play Market. With this app, you place boot.img in the top directory of your SD card, then use the app to flash it.
Or you can S-off, and not have to mess with flashing boot.img seperately every time you flash a ROM.
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For flashing the actual ROM, I don't think it matters. I think Goo Manager is still using TWRP, just automating the process.
The boot.img has the kernel in it. They are usually not posted separately in ROM threads. ROMs always contain a kernel, which normally just flashes with the rest of the ROM zip. But hboot 1.14 and above (if you are S-on) prevents the kernel from being flashed in recovery (TWRP). So you need to extract it from the ROM zip manually.
Again, you can't flash boot.img from TWRP, which is the whole point. Couple methods:
1) Leave the boot.img on your PC, and flash using fastboot. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952076
2) Alternately, you can use the app "Flash Image GUI" on the Play Market. With this app, you place boot.img in the top directory of your SD card, then use the app to flash it.
Or you can S-off, and not have to mess with flashing boot.img seperately every time you flash a ROM.
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Awesome - thank you so much. Cleared that up completely.
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For flashing the actual ROM, I don't think it matters. I think Goo Manager is still using TWRP, just automating the process.
The boot.img has the kernel in it. They are usually not posted separately in ROM threads. ROMs always contain a kernel, which normally just flashes with the rest of the ROM zip. But hboot 1.14 and above (if you are S-on) prevents the kernel from being flashed in recovery (TWRP). So you need to extract it from the ROM zip manually.
Again, you can't flash boot.img from TWRP, which is the whole point. Couple methods:
1) Leave the boot.img on your PC, and flash using fastboot. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952076
2) Alternately, you can use the app "Flash Image GUI" on the Play Market. With this app, you place boot.img in the top directory of your SD card, then use the app to flash it.
Or you can S-off, and not have to mess with flashing boot.img seperately every time you flash a ROM.
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Ok, so I looked at this Flash Image GUI on G-Play and the OneX isn't listed as a supported device - is it simply not listed, but is actually supported? For instance, I see this in the reviews...
"I own the AT&T model of the HTC One X (the Evita with a Snapdragon 4 processor) and unfortunately I got it on the 2.20 version. This means that I need to run the "fastboot flash boot boot.img" from my computer if I want to flash a Rom or kernel. It was a pain, I just wanted to be able to download a new Rom whenever and where ever I wanted (I have a very large data cap) and flash it on the go. I can actually do that now it's worked with both AOSP and Sense based Roms, so I'm happy. Great job to the dev "
Failing that, I'll run it from terminal (im on a mac) and assume those same commands apply (but with -mac after bootloader).
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Ok, so I looked at this Flash Image GUI on G-Play and the OneX isn't listed as a supported device - is it simply not listed, but is actually supported? For instance, I see this in the reviews...
"I own the AT&T model of the HTC One X (the Evita with a Snapdragon 4 processor) and unfortunately I got it on the 2.20 version. This means that I need to run the "fastboot flash boot boot.img" from my computer if I want to flash a Rom or kernel. It was a pain, I just wanted to be able to download a new Rom whenever and where ever I wanted (I have a very large data cap) and flash it on the go. I can actually do that now it's worked with both AOSP and Sense based Roms, so I'm happy. Great job to the dev "
Failing that, I'll run it from terminal (im on a mac) and assume those same commands apply (but with -mac after bootloader).
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flashimagegui is perfectly supported. got support awhile back. [APP] Flash Image GUI - Flash Kernels and Recoveries from normal Android mode!
I was running CM 12.1 on my N5 and wanted to give stock 6.0 a try so I flashed the factory image using the meathod in this article.
'androiding.how/marshmallow-rom-nexus-5-recovery-flashable/'
Have no problems and everything seems to be normal. However, I did want root access so I was going to follow the method described in that article which mentioned using fastboot to load a new boot.img. All I had to do was boot into TWRP flash the hellscore Kernel, then flash Superuser SU2.46.
However all the threads on this forum suggest that rooting marshmallow should not be this easy and requires a new boot.img ect......Am I missing something?
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I was running CM 12.1 on my N5 and wanted to give stock 6.0 a try so I flashed the factory image using the meathod in this article.
'androiding.how/marshmallow-rom-nexus-5-recovery-flashable/'
Have no problems and everything seems to be normal. However, I did want root access so I was going to follow the method described in that article which mentioned using fastboot to load a new boot.img. All I had to do was boot into TWRP flash the hellscore Kernel, then flash Superuser SU2.46.
However all the threads on this forum suggest that rooting marshmallow should not be this easy and requires a new boot.img ect......Am I missing something?
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The thing is, u need a kernel built for M that allows root access, something like HellsGod, the kernel that is packaged with XtraSmooth. I'm on the Nexus 6 running M and this is what did to achieve root access, I flashed XtraSmooth ROM thru twrp, downloaded 6.0, extracted the system, bootloader, and radio from the factory image and flashed them using fastboot, then I booted back into twrp and flashed SuperSU v2.50, u don't wanna use 2.46, it will bootloop, now I'm on M, rooted and loving it
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And it's always been that easy to root Nexus devices, that's what they're for, is primarily a developers phone, so they make it easy cut devs
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Thanks for the input, however I am still unsure why you need to use fastboot to load the bootloader and radio? I downloaded the zip files and used TWRP and it worked with no issues? and I did not get stuck in a boot loop using SU2.46?
I guess I am wondering if the update I flashed from the posted article was infact a full version of Marshmallow or just the preview since I did not need to use fastboot, and SU2.46 worked fine? at this point I am under the assumtion I did not go back to full stock 6.0 when I flashed the update.
The kernel you flashed (also known as a boot.img) was modified to allow root. It is no more complicated than that. If you didn't have a nice twrp zip file to flash (hell's kernel) you could have used fastboot to flash the kernel(boot.img) instead. Also, because you used a rom that was packaged as nice twrp flashable zip file you didn't have to use fastboot to flash the bootloader and radio, etc...it was in that rom zip file. You can use 7-zip or winrar to browse it and you can see all the files that zip flashed for you if you want.
This is why a lot of times after a new version of android drops the Q&A gets loaded with people asking for a stock flashable zip of the roms. It's just an easy way to upgrade without having to use fastboot which seems to be difficult for a lot of people to grasp.
Marshmallow cannot be rooted without a modified kernel right now so maybe that's what people mean by it"s "hard" to root marshmallow? Who knows. I thought it was easy peasy lemon squeezy.
Awesome. That is kinda what I thought but I just wasn't sure. it seemed too easy. I know enough to follow steps with out bricking my phone, and how to get out of a bootloop, but some of the finer details are still greek to me. I appretiate your input.:good:
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The kernel you flashed (also known as a boot.img) was modified to allow root. It is no more complicated than that. If you didn't have a nice twrp zip file to flash (hell's kernel) you could have used fastboot to flash the kernel(boot.img) instead. Also, because you used a rom that was packaged as nice twrp flashable zip file you didn't have to use fastboot to flash the bootloader and radio, etc...it was in that rom zip file. You can use 7-zip or winrar to browse it and you can see all the files that zip flashed for you if you want.
This is why a lot of times after a new version of android drops the Q&A gets loaded with people asking for a stock flashable zip of the roms. It's just an easy way to upgrade without having to use fastboot which seems to be difficult for a lot of people to grasp.
Marshmallow cannot be rooted without a modified kernel right now so maybe that's what people mean by it"s "hard" to root marshmallow? Who knows. I thought it was easy peasy lemon squeezy.
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I looked at that site you linked and it is possible you are still using the old radio and bootloader. It seems they had separate zip files for those things. The old ones might work with marshmallow though, I am not sure. You can go into your settings and look to see if the radio you have is up to date. Did you flash both of those zips or just the rom? The current one is baseband version M8974A-2.0.50.2.27. If yours is older you could flash that bootloader/radio zip file they have on that site. However, if your phone is working properly and you get good signal and everything there is not really any need. (I honestly can't remember if the bootloader and radio files can be included in flashable rom zips since I always update that stuff using fastboot, lol. Now that I think of it I don't think radios are typically included when people develop roms. I am trying to think back to when I flashed cyanogenmod like over a year ago... Either way it seems you get the idea of what to do.)